Portugal vs Netherlands

[Sulikate]

Wow! Though game! 1x0, Portugal won but there were four red cards, a lot of fouls...

:o

[Skybird]

Please someone shoot the referee, not the piano-man. Nothing against tough referees, but this one showed a very inconsistent performance.

[STEED]

What a dirty game that was.:nope:

[Sulikate]

What a dirty game that was.:nope:
Agreed.

[Kurushio]

The ref lost control because basically he is absolutely useless. He gave away two yellows inside of 5 minutes for some harmless challenges.

He's a disgrace and yet again FIFA are showing how corrupt and bent they are. They have hidden agendas, just like it was confirmed in the last World Cup. That's why I don't take the World Cup seriously...idiots the people who pay tons of money and paint themselves like clowns to watch a match live.

Idiots...:yep:

FOOTBALL IS A BUSINESS...A CORRUPT ONE.

[STEED]

Harsh words there Kurushio.

[Sulikate]

Yeah, but in the first 10 minutes of the game, the referee gave a yellow card to a guy that almost killed (just kidding) Cristiano Ronaldo, from the Portugal team. It was more than fare (I'd rather give him a red card for that).

[sergbuto]

Please someone shoot the referee, not the piano-man. Nothing against tough referees, but this one showed a very inconsistent performance.

Disagree. Most of the fouls were accounted for, even those he did not see (thanks to online refs).

[sergbuto]

He gave away two yellows inside of 5 minutes for some harmless challenges.

It was a hunt on the best Portuguse player Ronaldo. Both fouls were against him. He could not recover from those and was forced to quit the game after half an hour. I agree with Sulikate, in fact the ref should have done even better job to protect the best players.

[Skybird]

He oversaw a required red card in the first half, he did not give two yellows for fouls of the same level of fouls that received the yellow before, and tried to give the impression of being in sovereign control by shedding cards like a gardner waters his flowers, most get wet, some remain dry. Again, nothing agaist consequent referees. But his performance level was not a straight line, but a constant zigzagging. German commentators took notice of that, too. I doubt that Mr. Ivanov will be invited for events again as long as the DFB has a word in it - and that word is not just a small one.

[Kurushio]

Most of those fouls were harmless...most refs would've just given the freekick. That's why he lost control of the game. Then again, I think it was FIFA's agenda to get as many as those players carded. He broke the record with 4 reds and 15 yellows. :lol:

Yes, my words are harsh, but true. It's all a business and some teams are favoured over others. And if you believe football is completely fair, then you live in cuckoo land. Proof of corruption has been determined before and there's a lot which hasn't come out yet.

I love footy...but not when it's being manipulated by fat cat businessmen.

[Kurushio]

He oversaw a required red card in the first half, he did not give two yellows for fouls of the same level of fouls that received the yellow before, and tried to give the impression of being in sovereign control by shedding cards like a gardner waters his flowers, most get wet, some remain dry. Again, nothing agaist consequent referees. But his performance level was not a straight line, but a constant zigzagging. German commentators took notice of that, too. I doubt that Mr. Ivanov will be invited for events again as long as the DFB has a word in it - and that word is not just a small one.

The first match Mr. Ivanov referee'd he gave a yellow card to a player who was 5 yards away from the other player he supposedly fouled. Yet he still got to ref a quarter-final match. That's why it is blatantly obvious there is a hidden agenda. We saw the same thing in the last World Cup with the refs helping Korea.

Final France '98...Ronaldo fiasco...Ronaldo playing, not playing? Had a very upset face...what did Blatter tell the Brazilian players? Oh...I know. "let France win...you are in France". :roll:

[sergbuto]

Since 1974 I was a deep sympathizer for the Dutch national soccer/football team, I could even call myself their fan, considering Dutch innovations in soccer and great players they had over the years.

But today the Dutch team have lost my respect entirely: an intentional injury of the key Portuguze player Ronaldo at the start of the game, dirty playing throughout the game, an intentional hit of the Portuguze goalkeeper with streight leg in the end of the match, etc. And at the top of disgrace, when they did not return the ball after the game stop upon the injury of some player from Portugal.

And I do not have an excuse for the Portugal team either.

[goldorak]

Harsh words there Kurushio.
But its the sad truth.
FIFA is incompetent as far as referees goes. ( and the situation has worsened since Blatter is at the head of FIFA).
Only the best referees should go to the world cup (most of them are europeans by the way) and instead we have for political reasons (Blatter neads support of third world countries etc...) referees that are total nincompoops.
They mark inexistant offsides, don't validate valid goals (france ? anyone) and are absolutely incapable of keeping control of a match .
12 yellow cards and 4 red cards WTF is that in a single match? :roll:

[STEED]

Harsh words there Kurushio.

I forgot to add, true.

[Frenssen]

In fact I think Ivanov did a decent job. It`s not his fault that the players behave like idiots. He did one big mistake and that was not giving an early red card for the the disgusting attempts to injure C. Ronaldo. When a player nicknamed "the cannibal" runs his studs into an opponents thigh in 120 km/h early in the game I see a pattern.
At the same time I think the players are under great pressure and do anything to win.

[sergbuto]

I guess it would be a good idea to start pressing criminal charges for things similar to what was done to Ronaldo, like they do in Italy for using the doping.

[CB..]

theer seems to be a kind of rule of thumb with referering matches---the more Free kicks you give the more you HAVE to give--the fewer free kicks you give the fewer you HAVE to give---
as soon as the players realise your up for doling out free kicks every thirty seconds they immediately start diving around the floor like stranded dolphins--and of it goes untill some one looses their temper--

[retired1212]

The players were trying to play American football but the yellow guy had some other temper problems.
Sadly, there was nobody who could show first YELLOW and then RED card to the referee.

[Skybird]

In 1970 there was a call by FIFA that referees should allow physical tough play and should not interrupt, to brake the Brazilian technical superiority and help other teams to stop them before they could score another trophy win. However, this year there is also a well-known agenda, and no official denies it: that refrees should be more strict in protecting the attcking player from being stopped by physical means (fouls). I admit I suppoort that move, it should help that wqe see more technical performcnes, and more goals. What I hold Ivanov guilty of is not that he pratcices accoridng to this FIFA rule, but that he did not perform on the same level. He failed to show cards were, by his own example should have done so, and soem cards were simply too penibel and helped to destroy the match. He was not consequent. Else I would be very much in favour of moderatinga match that strictly. Footbal can be a technically very exciting sports, and I hate that a technical superior player is so easily betrayed of his reward by physical rudeness. I wish they would be a bit more like the kind of referee-ing in basketball (which in theory should be a sports without body-contact).