XFX 7800 GS AGP Nvidia board

[SUBMAN1]

I hate Zipzoomfly as a company, but this is cheap! $259 for an XFX 7800 GS AGP.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=321048&prodlist=pricegrabber

Zipzoomfly is fast in getting you your product, but you better pray that it is OK when you get it! They have crappy customer service after the sale - that is if you can get a hold of someone!

-S

[micky1up]

i have this gpu its fab im upgrading now to an fx-60 with raptor drive andg7950 1mb graphics card plus 4gb of memory this card is for sale if anyone wants it its the top agp card

[caspofungin]

so is it worth spending the dough? i mean, how much longer is this card and agp as a whole going to be viable in light of all the new products/games in the pipeline, each one more gpu intensive than the last?

[SUBMAN1]

i have this gpu its fab im upgrading now to an fx-60 with raptor drive andg7950 1mb graphics card plus 4gb of memory this card is for sale if anyone wants it its the top agp card

Stay away from the 7950 - its loud and there is nothing you can do about it.

-S

[micky1up]

im getting a custom built pc base unit with all componets selected to be the quiet paying nearly 2 grand for the unit ive seen reviews that say the 7950 is excellent

[SUBMAN1]

im getting a custom built pc base unit with all componets selected to be the quiet paying nearly 2 grand for the unit ive seen reviews that say the 7950 is excellent

I'm talking from a noise standpoint. You'd be way better off buying 2x 7900's and running them in SLI - not only will it be faster, but you can put custom cooling solutions on it. A 7950 will have at least 2 fans on it operating at 50 db constant each (ouch!) and there is nothing you can do about it!

-S

[micky1up]

the card im getting is the 7950 gx2 check it out for reviews its totally spanks every card on the market

check these conclussions and read the rest of the review

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/index.x?pg=9

place that with a wavemaster case and cpu water cooling and you see where im coming from

BASE_PRICE: [+449]
CAS: CoolerMaster TAC-T01 Wave Master Aluminum 420W Case [+44] (BLACK COLOR)
CASUPGRADE: NONE
CPU: (939-pin) AMD AthlonT64 FX 60 Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+456]
CD: SONY DWQ-30A DUAL FORMAT 16X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: NONE
CABLE: None
FLOPPY: NONE
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BEIGE COLOR)
FAN: CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling Fan System Kit + 2 EXTRA CASE FANS [+34]
HDD: Gaming Hard Drive (10,000RPM SATA150) [+23] (SATA150 - Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000RPM 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD [+120])
HDD2: NONE
IEEE_CARD: NONE
KEYBOARD: NONE [-5]
MOUSE: NONE [-4]
MODEM: NONE
MONITOR: NONE
MOTHERBOARD: (Sckt939)ASUS A8N-SLI SE nForce4 SLI Chipset SATA RAID Dual PCIE MB w/Gb-LAN,USB2.0,&5.1Audio
MEMORY: 2048 MB (1GBx2) PC3200 400MHz Dual Channel DDR MEMORY [+113] (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
OS: Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional w/ Service Pack 2 [+27]
POWERSUPPLY: Enermax EG565AX-VE 535 Watt Power Supply (SLI-Ready) [+61]
PPU: NONE
PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU [+11]
RAID: NONE
SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE [+19]
SPEAKERS: NONE
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
TV_TUNER: NONE
TEMP: NONE (AS SHOWN)
USB: Build-in USB 2.0 Ports
USBHD: NONE
VCAM: NONE
VIDEO: NEW!!! NVIDIA Geforce 7950 GX2 1GB 16X PCI Express Video Card [+317]
VIDEO2: NONE
WNC: NONE
WAP: NONE
plus ive 2 gig of ram loafing to add into the unit

[SUBMAN1]

the card im getting is the 7950 gx2 check it out for reviews its totally spanks every card on the market

check these conclussions and read the rest of the review

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/index.x?pg=9

place that with a wavemaster case and cpu water cooling and you see where im coming from

BASE_PRICE: [+449]
CAS: CoolerMaster TAC-T01 Wave Master Aluminum 420W Case [+44] (BLACK COLOR)
CASUPGRADE: NONE
CPU: (939-pin) AMD AthlonT64 FX 60 Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+456]
CD: SONY DWQ-30A DUAL FORMAT 16X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: NONE
CABLE: None
FLOPPY: NONE
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BEIGE COLOR)
FAN: CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling Fan System Kit + 2 EXTRA CASE FANS [+34]
HDD: Gaming Hard Drive (10,000RPM SATA150) [+23] (SATA150 - Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000RPM 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD [+120])
HDD2: NONE
IEEE_CARD: NONE
KEYBOARD: NONE [-5]
MOUSE: NONE [-4]
MODEM: NONE
MONITOR: NONE
MOTHERBOARD: (Sckt939)ASUS A8N-SLI SE nForce4 SLI Chipset SATA RAID Dual PCIE MB w/Gb-LAN,USB2.0,&5.1Audio
MEMORY: 2048 MB (1GBx2) PC3200 400MHz Dual Channel DDR MEMORY [+113] (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
OS: Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional w/ Service Pack 2 [+27]
POWERSUPPLY: Enermax EG565AX-VE 535 Watt Power Supply (SLI-Ready) [+61]
PPU: NONE
PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU [+11]
RAID: NONE
SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE [+19]
SPEAKERS: NONE
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
TV_TUNER: NONE
TEMP: NONE (AS SHOWN)
USB: Build-in USB 2.0 Ports
USBHD: NONE
VCAM: NONE
VIDEO: NEW!!! NVIDIA Geforce 7950 GX2 1GB 16X PCI Express Video Card [+317]
VIDEO2: NONE
WNC: NONE
WAP: NONE
plus ive 2 gig of ram loafing to add into the unit

No it doesn't. It is a crippled 7900 run in SLI sandwiched together, and part of the reason it is crippled probably has a lot to do with heat generated by 2x 7900 sandwiched together. Basically when you are buying a 7950, you are buying 2 boards.

2x 7900 GTX is a better and smarter buy, and faster than the 7950.

Your system specs look rather impressive but it looks like a Gateway build or something similar. You should try and build it yourself if you want to do it right. I already have a lot of what you spec out (inlcuding a Coolermaster Wavemaster case) and to keep it quiet requires a personal touch. One thing though - I don't particulary care for the FX60 CPU - a single FX57 is faster. Read up on it on Tom's. AMD screwed up when they made the FX60 CPU. The WD Raptors are also rather noisey, so I opted for 2x Seagates running in RAID 0. If that board has ULI RAID (It probably does), then you should be able to sustain 1.5x the speed of a single raptor in RAID 0 at about the same cost, but way more usable space. If it has SIL RAID, then it is not much better than a single drive since it will start the trasfer fast, but end slow or at about the same speed as a single drive.

Just my 2 cents.

-S

PS. One more thing - 420 Watts is rather small. Look for something bigger. I currently run a 600 WATT Silverstone ST60F. This should allow you to add a thing or two to the system in the future. My current system was incapable of running off my $110 Seasonic 400 WATT if that tells you anything. Look for something SLI certified by NVidia at the very least. When I plugged in my 400 Watt and flipped the switch - a whole lot of nothing happened! Unplugged the x1900 XTX though and everything came up. The 600 WATT however doesn't have this problem.

[SUBMAN1]

I just did a benchmark of my drives running on RAID 0 - notice, the fastest single drive you can get - a 15K RPM, SCSI320 - drive does not even compare to the dual Seagates running on RAID 0. It beats me seek wise by 1 ms, but transfer is not even close. I also added drives similar to mine running on RAID 0 and I am still a tad faster with myself at 90 MB/sec than the Maxtors at 84 MB/sec. 84 MB/sec is still decent though.

-S

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/5952/hdtest1vh.jpg

[micky1up]

diid you even look at the reviews site i posted it say's the same as evry review site that it spanks every card out there


http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/socket-am2/3dm06-shot.jpg


http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/3dm-overall.gif


http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/3dm-gt1.gif


http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/3dm-gt2.gif


http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/3dm-hdr1.gif


http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/3dm-hdr2.gif

[micky1up]

also


http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q4/geforce-6800gs/lostcoast.jpg


http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/hl2.gif


Battlefield 2
We test BF2 using FRAPS and manual gameplay, much like we did with Oblivion.
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q3/ati-crossfire/bf2-shot.jpg


http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/bf2.gif

Pretty impressive. In Battlefield 2, the GX2 actually achieves twice the average frame rate of the GeForce 7900 GT—and more than twice its median low frame rate.

[micky1up]

if you look at the spec of my system again u will notice the psu is a 535 sli psu

[SUBMAN1]

diid you even look at the reviews site i posted it say's the same as evry review site that it spanks every card out there



You're not hearing me. You are not comparing apples to apples. It is 'TWO' boards sandwiched together. Any 7900 GTX SLI rig or any x1800 or x1900 Crossfire rig will spank this board. Period.

Notice how the 7900 GTX is 'way' beyond the 7950 while running in SLI. Do yourself a favor and get yourself dual 7900 GTX's - you aren't spending much more to do this over the single 7950.

If you want to go even faster, get yourself dual x1900 XTX's in Crossfire mode.

-S

http://www.nvnews.net/previews/geforce_7950_gx2/images/3dmark05_benchmarks.png

http://www.nvnews.net/previews/geforce_7950_gx2/images/far_cry_benchmarks.png

http://www.nvnews.net/previews/geforce_7950_gx2/images/fear_benchmarks.png

http://www.nvnews.net/previews/geforce_7950_gx2/images/oblivion_benchmarks.png

[SUBMAN1]

if you look at the spec of my system again u will notice the psu is a 535 sli psu

CAS: CoolerMaster TAC-T01 Wave Master Aluminum 420W Case [+44]

That is where I got that from. Didn't see the replacement further down.

-S

[micky1up]

i see you mean 7900 in sli i only ment it spanked card singluar not in sli which it :D duz

[SUBMAN1]

i see you mean 7900 in sli i only ment it spanked card singluar not in sli which it :D duz
But that is what a 7950 is! It is 2x 7900 that are 'declocked' running in SLI mode! What do you think it is?

If you are going to compare an SLI board, then compare it to other SLI boards!

-S

[micky1up]

no its not classed as a sli board its just a single card with 2 proccesors on it i could buy another and run that in sli that would be 2gig of gpu

[SUBMAN1]

no its not classed as a sli board its just a single card with 2 proccesors on it i could buy another and run that in sli that would be 2gig of gpu

RRRRRRR! Wrong Answer! Better go read up on your board - it is physically 2 boards crammed together. And yes, it is using SLI to do its dirty work through a built in bridge! Here is a pic if you don't think its two boards:

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/7950-back.jpg

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/7950-coolers-angle.jpg

[SUBMAN1]

By the way, don't get me wrong - It is a nice idea if you only have 1 PCI-E 16x slot. However, if you have 2x PCI-E 16x slots, seperate boards is a better way to go.

-S

[micky1up]

oh right ok never mind its still a good card that for the price thx dude

[SUBMAN1]

oh right ok never mind its still a good card that for the price thx dude

Yep - THat is true - it is good performance for $.

-S

[Kurushio]

LOL...that's the ugliest graphics card (or should I say sandwich card?) I've ever seen. It reminds me of the razor blade philosophy...4 blades is better then one. Errr...no it isn't...it just makes it more likely to cut skin. :rotfl:

[Wim Libaers]

Looks like one of those fans might have a bit of trouble getting air...

[SUBMAN1]

LOL...that's the ugliest graphics card (or should I say sandwich card?) I've ever seen. It reminds me of the razor blade philosophy...4 blades is better then one. Errr...no it isn't...it just makes it more likely to cut skin. :rotfl:
It works though. But like the razor blade - 4 blades doesn't neccesarily cut 4x faster. You gain only about 1/3 more on average it would seem. Where it starts to shine is like 1920x res and beyond - beyond the capabilty of most monitors. Drop it down to 1600x or 1280x, it is not much faster than a single chip solution (and sometimes slower)

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Looks like one of those fans might have a bit of trouble getting air...

My thoughts exactly. How can you even begin to put a custom fan mod on that board?

Anyway, it is fast though, but it rightfully should be because it is 2 vid cards.