Just dont make things to last...

[CWorth]

As the title says..they just don't make things to last anymore.

Just a few days ago my GeForce 6600GT decided to give up the ghost..after only 5-6 months of use.Now I am stuck with a 5900XT until NewEgg sends me the replacement card.Now all the problems like the white smoke and other glitches are showing that I never saw with my 6600GT..GRRRRR!!!!!

Also one thing I am seeing that I never saw before is when I was in the open ocean and at periscope depth setting up an attack on a Large Merchant my framerate counter was showing 98FPS but I was stuttering something fierce.Not sure what was causing that...anyone have any ideas on what the cause may be?

[Von Taticus]

SH3 is quite demanding on Graphics cards.

perhapes it was running to hot. :oops:

[HunterICX]

:shifty: Graphic cards.....Expensive piece of Junks that dont last long...

in 6 months I had 3 NEW cards!

Geforce FX5500 256 mb - Burned out
Geforce FX5700LE 256 mb - Burned out
Geforce FX5700LE 256 TD ram - still working

it was guaranty work so...but still....these new cards are good, but their lifeline is very short. they can work today...but what about tomorow?:hmm:

but also do not turn ur PC on 24/7 a week, turn it off when ur done...
and yes SH3 is quit an System Eater, the important things of games of today is RAM and Graphic Cards

and your stuttering graphics might be your current Graphic card

When the shop made an mistake and putted in an Second FX5500(main Stream card) wich i didnt agree with (I orderd an Performance Card) because i started to play SH3 and i had the same stuttering as you describe.

[CptGrayWolf]

The heat sink fell off my 6600GT :o ,card was cooked in 3 minutes :damn:
Waited 1 month for a replacement :shifty: , the replacement card was faulty :damn:
Finaly the nice folks where I bought the card just gave me a brand new one.
Who's to blame!? MSI? NVIDIA? I'd like to know so I can avoid them in the future.

[CWorth]

but also do not turn ur PC on 24/7 a week, turn it off when ur done...


Funny thing is I know 4 computer techs who do this for a living that will say different.

They tell me do not turn the system off and on...just keep it on with a screensaver as the constant heating and cooling of the parts will cause more damage/wear to the parts and cause more problems than just keeping it on.

As for who to blame..you really have to blame the manufacturer.Most build there own cards and just use the Nvidia GPU's.I had 3 BFG cards in a 2 month period of time all blow out with a faulty capacitor.So needless to say I do not buy from BFG any longer.

It is getting pretty bad with the new cards and there shoddy craftsmanship and short life anymore..I remember buying my first GeForce card after 3DFX went out of buisness..that lasted me for nearly 1-1 1/2 years and was still good when I upgraded.Now like was said your lucky if they last for 4-5 months before they burn out on you.

[HunterICX]

Well...I just turn my Computer off when I,m done....

Coz my second card the FX5700LE 256 ram , burned out after 4 days continues beeing on and I started to play SH3 and I used TC 1024X and after 5 minutes BLAM! screen turned black....Holy smokes....after that my screen turned black after 25 minutes playing an game or watching an DVD on it....:damn:

But...you know...I call the comps of today a lot more vulnerable then the old Pentium II- III my 330Mhz survived without any kind of problems over 7 years. after I did a test if an old 1996 Pentium 2 330mhz - 64 Ram and 8 Vga card ...could run XP Pro....Well It didnt my Motherboard just died after the login screen

[SmokinTep]

My Radeon 9800 Pro lasted me about 2 1/2 years before it died.

[Dowly]

Everything said here leads to a conclusion that Nvidia cards suck. :) (expect my old GeForce 2, which lasted for 4 years.:rock:)

[CWorth]

Everything said here leads to a conclusion that Nvidia cards suck. :) (expect my old GeForce 2, which lasted for 4 years.:rock:)

LOL:rotfl:

I look at it this way..you cannot judge as a whole..you have to judge manufacturer by manufacturer.Nvidia/ATI only makes the GPU's that these companies use.Most build there own cards using Nvidias chips.Its not the chip that is the problem but the shoddy heatsinks,parts and simpe manufacturing that is the problem.

So far these are on my do not buy from again list after problems with their cards failing..BFG,Leadtek,Rosewill,Elsa.

And these I have had no problems with and their cards have lasted...PNY,ASUS,XFX,Chaintech,Jaton

On my card that just failed I looked to find if I could see any burn marks or anything to say what happened..I found that the heatsink was not even flush against the GPU..it was sitting above the GPU and not touching it due to the way they attached the heatsink to the card...only a 1/4x1/4 inch area of glue was connecting the sink to the GPU...no wonder it died.The thing burned itself up.This was a Rosewill 6600GT card.

[Von Taticus]

I've always had ATI Graphics cards , mostly made by Sapphire
An never had a problem with any of them. (the old drivers wern't much cop though)

The later CPUs are running faster with faster FSBs and running more sophisticated programs demanding faster graphics. This pushes the laws of physics & electronics closer and closer to the limit. The closer to the limit the hotter we all get. Keep you stuff cool and it'll run for ever.

Personally I use liquid cooling, CPU, NORTHBRIDGE and GPU. all running at 30 degress
whilst overclocking a 2.5 Mhz to 3.2 GMhz and the FSB 400Mhz, ATI 9800 pro

Oh...

I turn my system off when I'm not using it. (trying to save the planet and all ;) )

Steve (a techy...)

[Keelbuster]

I've always had ATI Graphics cards , mostly made by Sapphire
An never had a problem with any of them. (the old drivers wern't much cop though)

The later CPUs are running faster with faster FSBs and running more sophisticated programs demanding faster graphics. This pushes the laws of physics & electronics closer and closer to the limit. The closer to the limit the hotter we all get. Keep you stuff cool and it'll run for ever.

Personally I use liquid cooling, CPU, NORTHBRIDGE and GPU. all running at 30 degress
whilst overclocking a 2.5 Mhz to 3.2 GMhz and the FSB 400Mhz, ATI 9800 pro

Oh...

I turn my system off when I'm not using it. (trying to save the planet and all ;) )

Steve (a techy...)
Sounds like a sick system. I'm openly jealous. I run a pentium 4 2.4Ghz (upgraded heat sink/fan), a Radeon 9700 (stock), with 512 of 333 ram, and an Abit IT7 motherboard. About 2 years into her life, the motherboard had a critical failure related to the onboard network card - everytime i would boot into windows it would hard freeze the system - that's if I have a network cable plugged into the onboard slot. Thought I might have to get a new mobo. Instead I have a cheap network card installed, which works fine, so long as I don't mess with the onboard networking unit. I get the occasional blue screen of death, RAM related I think. When I bought the system I used to overclock it a lot (hence the abit board) but now it's not stable at anything above the factory settings. in fact, when it boots it declares the ram is 266 which freaks me out a bit. She's a bit dodgy, but she runs, for the most part. The ol' 9700 is still running. The occasional ghosting/bad pixels, but she's basically alive.

Kb

[TreverSlyFox]

Hmmmmm, bought this Dell Dimension 8200 in December 02 with the nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 64MB in it. Still going strong and plays SHIII fairly well, stutters a bit at 1024 TC. Probably be better with 128MB on board the card but then again my rig only has 512MB memory and I'm sure 1 gig would help too. Not bad for a 4 year old system, but I should upgrade it a bit at least memory wise. Wouldn't mind putting in a better Video card and a 2nd Hard Drive in while I'm at it. :up:

[Hartmann]

I have a 6600 gt and it´s working well after one year of use.
But i have the box modded . I drill a 8cm hole in the box with a cutting machine and install a two more fans of 8 cm , a blower extracting and the power supply is sucking hot air from inside of the box.
Despite this if in summer i see that the temperature is a bit high, i open the side of the box, the bad point is the noise,i can´t running silent :shifty: :roll:

[HunterICX]

I got the same Problem Hartman ;) but I live in Andalucia..its really hot in high summer....and like yours my pc makes an hell of an noise when the fans need to overwork to cool my system...you almost can hear the bloody System throught the whole house lol

[Eichenlaub]

It's not just graphics cards that aren't build to last: the way the pc industry has been developing these past years has reduced the longevity of many parts. It depends on the company, but I feel that more and more manufacturers produce their goods with the idea that people upgrade their systems every 2-3 years. Ergo, their products do not have to last for ages on end. The real quality manufacturers (I'm thinking Logitech for instance) do produce good longlasting stuff but you pay through the nose for them.

Maybe I'm just spoiled, but I remember the Commodore era. My Amiga 500 took 14 years before developing what seems to be critical faults; my Amiga 1200 hasn't developed any error at all after almost 13 years and my Commodore 64 is still functional after 18 years. That stuff was built to last...and they could run a mean game of Silent Service II as well!:rock:

Kind regards,

Eichenlaub

[HunterICX]

I,m very happy with my motherboard thought..
ASUS is an great brand. my Newer P4 is running good with it so. going for 2gig soon (2x 1024 pc3200 ram)

But I got an Old Pentium 4 (currently in use by my Bro&Sis)
1,7 ghz
128 RDR ram
64mb Geforce2 MX440

and all the stuf are from siemens...its an really strong machine. but I am not able to run SH3 on it :cry:

[kptn_kaiserhof]

sorry to tell you this cptgreywolf but geforce cards are known to be faulty or have bugs in them.
when i had my celeron i use to like geforce until it gave me the s**t's when i played the first tomb raider game since then i switch to ati radeon cards
plus geforce needs patches i have read bad reviews on geforce cards compare to radeon

i personly have a 256mb ati radeon 9800xt with overdrive :rock:

[scandium]

I had an AOpen Geforce 2 MX400 die on me way back. No problems with the ATI cards that I've owned since (a 9600 XT and a Sapphire X700 Pro).