What are you reading right now?

[Jimbuna]

Granted, the second volume is usually more expensive but I believe it is still worth the additional cost.

[Sailor Steve]

I'm opening my self to criticism on this but the Hornblower series are good reads but I'm spoiled after reading Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin series. I found that I became more involved in the lives of Lucky Jack and his temperamental Doctor friend they became realer and I found myself caring more about the world they lived in. Hornblower is more reserved and not so open. Still they are good sea stories and I recommend them to my land locked friends.
I think most people agree that O'Brian was much the better storyteller. That said, I never liked his books much because I felt they were long on adventure, which is good for most people, but short on history. Forrester's books felt to me like they were detailing an actual career of the time. C. Norcote Parkinson was so affected that he wrote a 'biography' of Hornblower, complete with 'official' portraits of Hornblower and his wife.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Life-Times-Horatio-Hornblower/dp/0750921099

Since I much prefer history to adventure stories (funny, since I love Edgar Rice Burroughs) I prefer Hornblower. For a different opinion ask Onkel Neal. :sunny:

[Sepp von Ch.]

Now G.T.M. Kelshall´s "The U-Boat War in the Caribbean". Love this book!:sunny:

[Sailor Steve]

My copy of British Battleships: Warrior (1860) to Vanguard (1950), by Oscar Parkes arrived yesterday. Seven hundred pages, huge amounts of detail with a wealth of photos and drawings. It's an old battered copy and set me back $120, but it was worth it. A 'like new' copy costs over a thousand. It's mostly for reference, but I keep pulling it back out and looking through it just for fun. :D

[Jimbuna]

My copy of British Battleships: Warrior (1860) to Vanguard (1950), by Oscar Parkes arrived yesterday. Seven hundred pages, huge amounts of detail with a wealth of photos and drawings. It's an old battered copy and set me back $120, but it was worth it. A 'like new' copy costs over a thousand. It's mostly for reference, but I keep pulling it back out and looking through it just for fun. :D

That sounds like one hell of a read Steve and I must admit I am tempted:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/British-Battleships-Vanguard-Construction-Armament/dp/1557500754

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/title/british-battleships/author/oscar-parkes/sortby/3/

£135 here:

http://www.puddletownbookshop.co.uk/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=18176

[STEED]

stalingrad By Antony Beevor.

Third the way in now and so far a good read.

[Herr-Berbunch]

The pair of Clay Blair's books on Ebay, going for just £6.50, one hour left. If anyone is interested.

[Jimbuna]

The pair of Clay Blair's books on Ebay, going for just £6.50, one hour left. If anyone is interested.

Might have been about six years ago :)

[Herr-Berbunch]

Might have been about six years ago :)

It was due to finish at 9:21 pm. In the end they went for £17.17 inc P&P.

[Randomizer]

Finished The Starvation Blockades: Naval Blockades of World War 1 by Nigel Hawkins.

This well written book covers the surface blockades by the RN, the Otranto Barrage and the attempts at enacting an undersea blockade of the Entente powers by Germany's U-Boat force. Hawkins demonstrates how successive (mostly British) violations of international law regarding blockades and contraband helped escalate the naval war to the German declaration of unrestricted submarine warfare, first in 1915 and again in 1917.

Excellent and enlightening work for anybody interested in the Great War at sea.

[Jimbuna]

It was due to finish at 9:21 pm. In the end they went for £17.17 inc P&P.

A lot cheaper than I paid about six years ago...volume two is usually the dearest.

[kranz]

102 Minutes by J.Dwyer and K.Flynn about 9/11 and WTC towers.
The Glass Room by S.Mawer. A great story which I started reading last year as it was a part of the Booker Prize Winners course.

[Sepp von Ch.]

U-88 Das Kriegstagebuch. Very interesting book.

[Jimbuna]

Die Deutsche Kriegsmarine Vol 2, Light Warships by Ulrich Elfrath

[sharkbit]

Mock me if you will, but I just finished the Harry Potter series a couple of weeks ago. :O:

Finished "Taught to Kill: An American Boy's War from the Ardennes to Berlin" by John Babcock.

Started "Panzer Grenadier Aces: German Mechanized Infantrymen in WWII" by Franz Kurowski.

:)

[Jimbuna]

The latter is a particular good read :cool:

[Randomizer]

Finished Lusitania: An Epic Tragedy by Diana Preston.

If you only intend to read one book about the sinking of RMS Lusitania, avoid this one like the plague.

[Red October1984]

I just started Red Storm Rising about a week ago. :D

But.....Its my last Clancy until the new one comes out. Ive read all the other ones. :shifty:

[sharkbit]

The latter is a particular good read :cool:

Ive also read his "Panzer Aces II" and "Infantry Aces". Both are good reads although a little uneven at times.

I still have "Panzer Aces" to read as well.

:)

[Sepp von Ch.]

U-Boat attack logs, really wonderful book.

[Jimbuna]

Die Deutsche Kriegsmarine Vol 3, U-boats by Ulrich Elfrath

[Kaye T. Bai]

Just finished John Birmingham's "Angels of Vengeance", the final book in his "Without Warning" trilogy, which asks the question of what would've happened if everybody in the United States, Canada, Mexico, and Cuba disappeared without a trace on March 14th, 2003.

It was a fitting end to a great series, although it left the reader hanging.

[Sailor Steve]

Early Medieval Europe: 300-1000, by Roger Collins (St. Martin's Press, 1991)

Pretty much what it sounds like - a fair overview of the period; who did what and when, and who they did it to. Not a huge amount of detail, but you can't expect that in a single volume covering seven hundred years of history.

[STEED]

I got all four volumes of Christer Berstrom's series of the air war in Russia, just finished his first one now on his second one.

All four titles are...

Barbarossa: The Air Battle July-December 1941
Stalingrad - The Air Battle: 1942 through January 1943
Kursk: The Air Battle July 1943
Bagration to Berlin: The Final Air Battles in the East 1944-1945

[Jimbuna]

Just arrived so next on the list...Secrets Of The Conqueror by Stuart Prebble.

[Sepp von Ch.]

"Die U-Boot Gruppe Eisbär. Einsatz vor Kapstadt." Old but very interesting book about the U-Boat attack (IXC, IXD and XIV Boats) in front of Cape Town.

And ordered the book Die Afrika Flotille. Looking forward to the famous book about S-Boot 3. flotilla deployment in shore (not only) Africa. Can´t wait!

[Sepp von Ch.]

Die Afrika Flotille. Einsatz der 3. Schnellbootflotille im zweiten Weltkrieg is here! Everything other went sideways. I have now on my table this book and 1/35 Schnelloboot Italeri kit, in my PC /as second installation/ famous S-Boot mod for SHIII. Vorwärts Kameraden!:salute: See here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1956479&postcount=10773

[Red October1984]

In the middle of Red Storm Rising. I love this book. Very good Sub/ASW warfare description. :rock: :rock:

[Schöneboom]

"A Submariners' War: The Indian Ocean 1939-45" by Michael Wilson. Tempus Publishing, Ltd. Lots of pictures & info, with chapters by nationality: Italian, French, Dutch, Japanese, British, American, and German. A birthday gift from my girlfriend (she's a keeper).

[Sepp von Ch.]

German E-boats, G. Williamson, Osprey. Gift from my sister.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Flying into the Flames of Hell: Flying with Bomber Command in WWII

I'm on the lookout for a good book about the RAF Pathfinders next. :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Flying into the Flames of Hell: Flying with Bomber Command in WWII

I'm on the lookout for a good book about the RAF Pathfinders next. :salute:

http://www.countrysidebooks.co.uk/book-catalogue-book-details.php?book=1907

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pathfinder-Force-History-Group-RAF/dp/0354010174

http://www.rafmuseumshop.com/node/5520

[Sailor Steve]

WOOHOO!

My copy of Burt's British Battleships: 1889-1904 came just a few minutes ago! Mainly for reference, but also very readable, if you consider highly technical descriptions of arms, armor, turning radius, dates of new equipment and individual histories to be fun. I certainly do, so this is a book I've wanted for a long time. $125 for a used copy, but it's in excellent shape so I'm not complaining.

I'm happy for a few weeks now. :D

[Randomizer]

WOOHOO!

My copy of Burt's British Battleships: 1889-1904 came just a few minutes ago! Mainly for reference, but also very readable, if you consider highly technical descriptions of arms, armor, turning radius, dates of new equipment and individual histories to be fun. I certainly do, so this is a book I've wanted for a long time. $125 for a used copy, but it's in excellent shape so I'm not complaining.

I'm happy for a few weeks now. :D
Glad your copy arrived in good shape. Prof Parkes even manages to include some dry British wit in spots, rare in such a technical work.

Currently finishing The Fall of Berlin 1945 by Antony Beevor. Pretty good so far, Beevor is generally pretty readable and in content the book seems much more comprehensive than Toland's The Last 100-Days.

[Sailor Steve]

Prof Parkes even manages to include some dry British wit in spots, rare in such a technical work.
I got a copy of Parkes just last month, also more than $120. Parkes covers more ground, but if I had to choose between them now, I'd take R.A. Burt's work any day of the week.

[Sepp von Ch.]

Today delivered J. J. Baart´s book "Schnellboote". Really good and comprehensive story of the Schnellbootwaffe with the base in Germany, France and Holland.

[Sepp von Ch.]

Gentlemen, is this book Under the Jolly Roger. British Submariners at War 1939-1945 good? This book contains photos, color profiles or only text?

http://www.amazon.com/Under-Roger-British-Submariners-1939-1945/dp/B004ALE66E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1352893817&sr=8-2&keywords=Under+the+jolly+roger+submariners

[Jimbuna]

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/Under-Jolly-Roger-British-Submariners-1939-1945/848475400/bd

[Sepp von Ch.]

Thanks jimbuna!:up:

[Jimbuna]

Your welcome http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Sepp von Ch.]

Harald F o c k´s Die deutschen Schnellboote 1914-1945 (technically oriented book) and thereto Korvettenkapitän Werner Töniges (history of the E-Boats deployment and curriculum vitae of this german ace). Really super books.

[Red Brow]

I wish more Japanese WWII ship captains would have written books about their war exploits, but I was gratified to read the war account of Capt. Tameichi Hara who was a well celebrated Japanese destroyer captain through most of the war. He was the designer of Japan's revised doctrine for torpedo aiming calculations which made Japan's ship fired torpedoes much more accurate. This was very important since Japan's new torpedoes could do a range of 40,000 meters at 36 knots! At the time the US fish could only do 8,000 meters at 32 knots, and the British could do 10,000 meters at 30 knots.
Not only did the Japanese torpedoes have great range; their oxygen-fueled torpedoes did not leave bubble trails.

The Japanese kept their torpedo stats totally secret during the war and as a result sometimes the Allies would blame Japanese subs for torpedoes that were actually coming from Japanese destroyers that seemed too far off to be a torpedo danger.

This captain was in a line of ships where the lead one hit and ran over PT-109 commanded by JFK.

This Captain also mentions an American routine with bombs in one Pacific battle area where allied bombers would skip bombs into the sides of Japanese ships just like the 617 Squadron, RAF, "The Dambusters" did to German defended dams. Apparently when this US tactic was used Japanese ship captains had no choice but to kiss their ars good bye. But Tameichi Hara, who was known as a problem solver, was asked to set his mind to figure out how to survive such an attack. Turns out he never did UNTIL his own ship was so attacked and in the few moments of on coming terror he solved the mystery and his ship survived. Necessity is the mother of invention!

His last sea mission was on the light cruiser Yahagi that went out with the Yamato on the suicide mission "Operation Ten-Go".

One funny trick he played - earlier in the war - was when his destroyer was set upon by a large force of American planes. Few Japanese destroyers at that time could survive such attacks. It was very cloudy so he tried a last second trick - he yelled for his engine room to ignore standard safety procedure and to pour on the fuel above what was considered safe. He produced a huge backfire that sent a huge fireball up through the stack. The ship shuddered and slowed to a stop. To the circling American planes it appeared like they had scored a death hit on the ship and so they flew off. The cloud cover obscured the fact that the ship didn't sink.

This captain was very inventive compared to your average ship captain. I felt like he was the equivalent in inventive tricks as for example Colonel Robert Scott, who with one P-40 convinced the Japanese in his Asian zone that they were up against many planes since he had his plane repainted over and over again for multiple missions. Or the equal to Panzer (Kurt) Meyer a Waffen SS officer who never failed to come up with wild on-the- spot ideas to defeat his enemies.

Believe me, you want to read this book.

[Sailor Steve]

I still have the copy I bought when it was released in 1961. :sunny:

[nikimcbee]

I need to finish reading this. It's a pretty interesting book.

[Jimbuna]

Japanese Destroyer Captain

I'll put that on my Christmas list.

[tmccarthy]

I'm also reading Japanese Destroyer Captain by Capt. Tameichi Hara

Very interesting first hand account.

[Randomizer]

Just finished. Red Mutiny: Eleven Fateful Days on the Battleship Potemkin by Neal Bascomb.

Not a bad retelling of the famous mutiny and 1905 revolution. Quite readable, well sourced and footnoted.

Up next. R.J. Overy's The Road to War about the start of WW2 in Europe.

[Gerald]

Japanese Destroyer Captain

I'll put that on my Christmas list. Should be good,:up:

[Sailor Steve]

Still reading the Medieval book, and very slowly due to time spent working on games, but my latest reference arrived just a few minutes ago: Norman Friedman's British Cruisers of the Victorian Era, and it's a good one! Lots of text, lots of pictures, lots of details. :D

[Herr-Berbunch]

The Middle East: Abraham to Arafat (although it does predate Abraham), but I'm expecting a library book to be ready soon and I'll put out down for that.

[Randomizer]

The Middle East: Abraham to Arafat (although it does predate Abraham), but I'm expecting a library book to be ready soon and I'll put out down for that.
A couple of interesting balanced history reads that help put the modern Middle East into prospective. Both should be available through better libraries.

A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East by David Fromkin.

http://www.amazon.com/Peace-End-All-Ottoman-Creation/dp/B0006SHMRK/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1354044778&sr=1-2&keywords=a+peace+to+end+all+peace+by+david+fromkin

and

One Palestine, Complete: Jews and Arabs under the British Mandate by Tom Segev.

http://www.amazon.com/One-Palestine-Complete-British-Mandate/dp/0805065873/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1354044564&sr=1-1&keywords=One+Palestine%2C+Complete

[Herr-Berbunch]

Glad you mentioned balanced. Thanks for the recommendations.

[Fitz62STG]

I'm currently reading Red Star Over the Pacific by Toshi Yoshihara and Jame R. Holmes. I'm about a third of the way through it and it's a decent book. It deals with the strategic perspective that the Chinese have followed to build their navy. It also delves into what their force may be tactically and strategically in the coming years.

[Gerald]

^Seems like a bargain ... read about it in Global Security,:up:

[Jimbuna]

Should be good,:up:

Aye

[Red October1984]

I finished Red Storm Rising last night.

I have no idea what to do with myself. I don't have any more Clancy to read. I've read them all.

A moment of silence. :wah:

[Red October1984]

I started Stephen King's The Shining.

[MarkCt]

I just finished Silent Running by James Calvert. Also read The Bravest Man, the true story of Richard O'Kane. Both were great.

[sharkbit]

Also read The Bravest Man, the true story of Richard O'Kane.

You should read about O'Kane's experiences straight from the horse's mouth.
Read his "Wahoo" and "Clear the Bridge"

:)

[Sepp von Ch.]

U-2540. Book about the XXI type. New release. Excellent reading matter.

[Jimbuna]

Allied Coastal Forces vol1 Fairmile Designs and US Submarine Chasers by John Lambert and Al Ross (E book version).

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9196/96858925.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/96858925.jpg/)

[Sepp von Ch.]

:up: Very good choice jimbuna. Very informative reading matter.

Looking forward now to this book:

ALLIED SUBMARINE OPERATIONS IN GREECE DURING WORLD WAR II (1941-1944)

http://s9.postimage.org/vm5lmgezf/386559101512590663534461260934892n1299974fjpg.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/vm5lmgezf/)


The researcher and friend Byron Tesapsides published his last book, titled „Allied Submarine Operations in Greece during World War II“, which reports, based on the allie
s war diaries, regarding the operations of the following allied submarines in the Greek waters during 1941-1944:

Parthian, Osiris, Perseus, Porpoise, Proteus, Rorqual, Sea Rover, Seraph, Shakespeare, Sibyl, Sickle, Simoom, Sokol, Sportsman, Surf, Tactician, Taku, Talisman, Taurus, Tetrarch, Thorn, Thraser, Thunderbolt, Torbay, Traveller, Trespasser, Trident, Triumph, Trooper, Truant, Turbulent, Ultimatum, Ultor, Unrivalled, Unruly, Unsparing, Unserving, Untiring, Upstart, Vigorous, Virtue, Visigoth, Vivid, Voracious, Vox, Vampire, Dolffjin, Dzik, Curie, Glavkos, Katsonis, Matrozos, Nereus, Pipinos, Papanikolis and Triton.

All those mentioned allied submarines -included British, Greek, Polish, French and Dutch subs- observed enemy movements, laid mines, landed supplies and men for clandestine purposes and harassed and disrupted the traffic between the major ports and the outlying garrisons of the occupied Greek islands and the mainland. All those operations, against the Axis forces, were not only conducted against unarmed caiques but also against heavily armed war ships.

The reader will find in Byron’s book detailed reports of all the major and minor operations based on the war diaries of the allied submarines.
It is a great book which is going to help every researcher and history enthusiast who is interested in the marine operations in the Greek waters during WWII.

[MarkCt]

You should read about O'Kane's experiences straight from the horse's mouth.
Read his "Wahoo" and "Clear the Bridge"

:)

Sharkbit, I did read Wahoo but not Clear the Bridge. I'll check that one out as im now looking for a new book. I also read War in the Boats, Crash Dive and Luck of the Draw.

[Jimbuna]

:up: Very good choice jimbuna. Very informative reading matter.



Rgr that, I also have the second volume in E book format.

[Sailor Steve]

My newest reference arrived today: U.S. Cruisers: An Illustrated Design History, by Norman Friedman. This should be the last of the triple-digit-priced books for awhile.

[Sepp von Ch.]

Schaeffer´s U-977 Geheimfahrt nach Südamerika.

[Gerald]

Interesting.

[Jimbuna]

The second volume to #1061

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2397/97794212.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/97794212.jpg/)

[soopaman2]

I went to the doctors office and he had a copy of WW2 magazine, It had a great article called Torpedo Junction about Japanese subs having a "happy time" of their own on American ships in the Pacific.

There was also an amusing yet informative article about the ceremony held when a ship crosses the equator. Those shellbacks are mean, and I surely hope you guys still don't give the goofy haircuts, some of those pics were great!

He referred to his ship as "a life support system for rivets" , and I started laughing...

Here I am in a doctors office, with ancient people, laughing at a WW2 magazine.:oops:

So I kinda went home and subscribed. It is really cool if you are into WW2.

[Dammit_Carl!]

Soldiers of the Sun by Meirion and Susie Harries.

And I've got a paperback of WW1 Aces floating about somewhere.

[Jimbuna]

American Coastal Defences 1885 - 1950 by T McGovern and T Smith

[Sepp von Ch.]

One of my Christmas gifts - Schicksaalswaffe U-Boot (F. Merten).

[Sepp von Ch.]

Today SMS - S-Boote. Thin but interesting booklet.

Happy new year and many good books in 2013!

[Jimbuna]

American Raiders (The race to capture the Luftwaffe's secrets) by Wolfgang W.E. Samuel

[Randomizer]

Just finished: The Russian Origins of the First World War by Sean McMeekin.

Like a number of recent works on WW1, this questions the veracity of the Anglo-centric conventional accounts aiming this time at responsibility for the start of the Great War. Uses Russian, German and Turkish primary sources previously ignored in most English language histories of the July Crisis.

Author is an British history professor teaching in Turkey and fluent in both Russian and Turkish.

Up next: Team of Rivals; The Political genius of Abraham Lincoln by Doris Kearns Goodwin.

[Dammit_Carl!]

Wrapped up Flying Aces of World War 1 by Gene Gurney in a few hours (hey, got it for $1 and it was an easy read) while making lunch and supper on Monday.

Now on Blossoms in the Wind: The Human Legacy of the Kamikaze by M. G. Sheftall. Interesting read so far; the Japanese "angle / POV," per early 20th Century / WW2 is always interesting to me for some reason.

Next up: The U-Boat War in the Caribbean by Gaylord T. M. Kelshall (it runs a bit on the "dry," side for me and I've tried at it once before) or a re-read of Hitler's Battleships by Edwyn A. Gray.

[sharkbit]

"Infantry Attacks" Erwin Rommel

:)

[STEED]

Reading the latest one from Osprey Essential Histories No.75, The Soviet–Afghan War 1979–89.

[Jimbuna]

Anatomy of the Battleship Bismarck.

[Sepp von Ch.]

US Patrol Torpedo Boats, World War II - Osprey.

[Red October1984]

http://img2.imagesbn.com/p/9781574887341_p0_v1_s260x420.jpg

I love this book. I'm just over halfway through. :D

[Dammit_Carl!]

Now on: The U-Boat War in the Caribbean by Gaylord T. M. Kelshall

Next up: ? Perhaps that book about WW1 surface ships I came across - did see a 2 volume set about WW2 U boats that cataloged them all (?) like a ship roster & brief history of sorts; i.e. U-xxx = keel laid at Kiel, First patrol etc., etc. Lost on patrol and so on that seemed pretty freakin' nifty. Think I'll have a difficult time with the Mrs. and the price of the books, though.

[Cybermat47]

I'm reading Halo: The Fall of Reach, a prequel novel to the game Halo: Combat Evolved, which I just finished

[Jimbuna]

Anatomy of the Battleship Scharnhorst.

[messageboy101]

Im now readig ken foller the fall of gaints Great book when you love 1100 pages

[Arnold]

I'm reading "Neutral Shores", by Mark McShane. From the back cover: "The Battle for the Atlantic affected coastal communities right across Ireland and, from September 1939 to the last days of the war in 1945, Ireland was host to a constant flow of casualties from the longest campaign of the Second World War. In "Neutral Shores", Mark McShane tells the stories of merchant navy ships and convoys attacked by the deadly German U-boats and anti-shipping bombers off the Irish coast, and of the harrowing fight for survival of crews left adift in fragile lifeboats, whose only hope of rescue lay in reaching Ireland's shores. "
One story that I found amazing was one of an officer on a merchant ship, who, when a torpedo struck his ship, was knocked into an open hold and swam out the side of his ship from the hole made by the eel!
A good read!

[Cybermat47]

Anatomy of the Battleship Scharnhorst.

That sounds awesome!

[Sailor Steve]

That sounds awesome!
Most of Conway's Anatomy series are. Possibly the best of all is Dreadnought, mainly because John Roberts put in enough detailed drawings that you could use it to rebuild the ship if you wanted. He even includes detailed drawings of all the different types of rivets they used.

This is not to put down the others. They vary in detail but even the "worst" ones rate seven out of ten stars, and most are eights or nines.

[Jimbuna]

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4736/10073872.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/10073872.jpg/)

[Herr-Berbunch]

I'm on the penultimate page of my book about the Middle East, previously mentioned, and then I'm due to start -
The Lightning Boys: True Tales from Pilots of the English Electric Lightning (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lightning-Boys-Pilots-English-Electric/dp/190811715X)

[STEED]

Just started reading this one...

THE ARAB-ISRAELI WARS
War and Peace in the Middle East
By Chaim Herzog

Got a good write up at the time, wanted to get a book on this subject for some time.

[Sailor Steve]

Was looking through some boxes and came across two books I bought many years ago, but hardly ever touched.

One is Republic Of Letters: The Correspondence between Thomas Jefferson and James Madison 1776-1826, compiled by James Morton Smith. It is just what it says - the complete letters they wrote to each other from the Declaration of Independence to Jefferson's death 50 years later, along with an introduction to each period by the editor explaining what was going on at the time. Hardcover, 2075 pages.

The second is James Madison and the American Nation, 1751-1836, edited by Robert A. Rutland. This is an encyclopedia of the period contained within Madison's lifetime, and is a very handy reference to the people and events of the era. I just now used it to refresh my memory on the reasons why Madison originally opposed adding a Bill of Rights to the U.S. Constitution, then later reversed himself and not only agreed to putting one in, but wrote most of it himself. Hardcover, 505 pages.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

http://img2.imagesbn.com/p/9781574887341_p0_v1_s260x420.jpg

I love this book. I'm just over halfway through. :D
Thats one of my fave books. Atm I'm reading
http://imageshack.us/a/img571/3003/ahighercallbookjacket.jpg
and I just finished "Sharpe's Rifles" and "Sharpe's Havoc" by Bernard Cornwell. I would recommend all three!

[Dammit_Carl!]

Had a nice, dull weekend at drill (the joys of being in the system but not "in," enough to access computers = desk dwell time). So....

Operation Drumbeat by Mr. Gannon. This book got me really hooked on sub stories - must have read it 2-3 times already.

Touched with Fire: The Land War in the Pacific by Bergerud.

Got too many books going at this point, I think.

[Sepp von Ch.]

Frank D. Johnosn´s United States PT-Boats of World War II in action. Really great book.

[Jimbuna]

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2287/80034932.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/80034932.jpg/)

[Liam C]

A book called "Doolittle Raid:1942" which has all kinds of sources including diaries from some of the raiders.

[uss_sea_tiger]

Just found Pigboat 39 on Kindle & think I may have found a piece of heaven.

[Red October1984]

Just cracked into Threat Vector by Tom Clancy....

I predict another good read ahead of me.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Just cracked into Threat Vector by Mark Greaney....

I predict another good read ahead of me.

Fixed that for you. I'm not saying he's not a good writer, I'm just saying it like it is. :O:

[Jimbuna]

Australian and New Zealand Warships 1914-1945 Ross Gillett

[Red October1984]

Fixed that for you. I'm not saying he's not a good writer, I'm just saying it like it is. :O:

No. No. No. NO. NO! NO! NO! :/\\!!

However true that may or may not be, I still enjoy the books. Don't change my perception on literature! I enjoy it the way it is! :har:

[sharkbit]

Just got these a couple of weeks ago, by Eric Hammel, more for the photographs than anything else:

http://www.amazon.com/Iwo-Jima-Portrait-Marines-Pacific/dp/B005ZO6CTY/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359142436&sr=1-4&keywords=iwo+jima

http://www.amazon.com/Islands-Hell-Marines-Western-1944-1945/dp/0760337799/ref=pd_sim_b_5

http://www.amazon.com/Tarawa-Marshalls-Pictorial-Tribute-Marines/dp/0760333297/ref=pd_sim_b_2

The photos are all excellent and are Official US Marine photos. The vast majority are photos you don't normally see published and can be somewhat graphic, showing both Japanese and Marine dead as well as some excellent combat photos.
Hightly recommended. :up:

I was so impressed by these three books I want to get two others by him on the Guadalcanal and New Georgia campaigns.

:)

[Cybermat47]

I'm reading All Quiet on the Western Front. Many here suggested that I watch the movie, but my Mum wants me to read the book first.

Also, I happened across something in the house. It was Das Boot, the novel. So now I'm going to read two war epics centered around Germans! :D

[Sailor Steve]

Excellent! You could certainly do worse. :sunny:

[Herr-Berbunch]

I've got All Quiet lined up, but need to finish As Used On Nelson Mandela by Mark Thomas.

One guy I was glad not to have met whilst serving.

[Jimbuna]

Ebook version

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8536/52327722.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/52327722.jpg/)

[sharkbit]

@ jimbuna:

IIRC, a revised edition came out after Ballard discovered the wreck with some revised thoughts from the author on Ballard's findings.

Just curious-is your e-book a revised edition or the original? :06:

I bought this book when it came out. Good book by the senior ranking survivor. :up:

:)

[Jimbuna]

Can't say right now because it's stored on one of my home systems and I'm currently at work.

[kranz]

Ebook version

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8536/52327722.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/52327722.jpg/)
she sinks at the end.


Just curious-is your e-book a revised edition or the original? :06:

I bought this book when it came out. Good book by the senior ranking survivor. :up:

:)

I have a 2000 edition (in Polish). From what I remember Ballard's point was that she was sunk by the crew rather than as a result of the damages.
However, the author doesn't give any clear answer to this, as he was in the rear of the ship.

[Jimbuna]

I guess the true facts will never be known but the actual outcome will always be recognised as to what Churchill ordered....'she had to be sunk/destroyed'.

[HunterICX]

During my visit in Holland I managed to raid the local bookstore there.

purchased 2 books

Anthony Everitt's ''The Rise of Rome: The Making of the World's Greatest Empire''

and a abridged version of Edward Gibbon's ''The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'' which retains the full scope of the original, but in a compass equivalent to a long novel.

HunterICX

[Sailor Steve]

she sinks at the end.
Stop giving away spoilers! :D



I have a 2000 edition (in Polish). From what I remember Ballard's point was that she was sunk by the crew rather than as a result of the damages.
However, the author doesn't give any clear answer to this, as he was in the rear of the ship.
I've been fascinated by that, since Ballard's pictures show Bismarck buried up to the waterline, making it impossible to see any underwater damage. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me that the controversy is no closer to being solved than it ever was.

This documentary is the best I've seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BNGZSK3Oco

It includes interviews with Ted Briggs and Baron von Mullenheim-Rechberg. The Baron mentions the controversy and ends saying "You can say to both sides, 'You sank the Bismarck'".

[Madox58]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Wyandot_History.jpg

Printed in 1884 there's not a spec of Political Correctness in it!
:haha:

[Red October1984]

I'm about to start Sniper One by Sgt. Dan Mills

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NvhnTb-4j3k/SfOCzPbDU6I/AAAAAAAACZY/KQmOFSp-NmQ/s400/sniper+one.jpg

I bought it a few years ago and just never touched it. :D It looks good.

[Jimbuna]

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1405/70216045.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/70216045.jpg/)

[Randomizer]

Currently on a Great War reading binge while preparing a lecture series on period navies and navalism. One of the works consulted is Wilson's War: How Woodrow Wilson's Great Blunder led to Hitler, Lenin, Stalin & World War II by Jim Powell.

America's involvement in WW1 is frequently fertile ground for controversy but given the provocative sub-title it was likely to be written as a anti-Wilson polemic and the book is certainly that.

What it is not is an objective or sound work of history.

Powell, a Fellow with the CATO Institute attaches virtually all of the ills of the 20th Century on the decision of President Wilson to bring the United States into Europe's Great War in April 1917. Unfortunately he does a remarkably poor job at connecting the dots since he consistently cherry-picks only the slimmest evidence connecting his central thesis and infers cause and effect that he does not bother to substantiate.

In a nut shell, Wilson's decision to declare war on Germany led to Versailles Diktat which led to the inevitable rise of Hitler and WW2. Big stretch this when he invokes Hitler experts like Alan Bullock who's Hitler: A Study in Tyranny is considered by many to be seminal on the subject. Yet Prof Bullock never considers the rise of Hitler to have been in any sense inevitable. So dumping all the blame on Wilson is disingenuous and intellectually dishonest.

Likewise he extensively quotes from Orlando Figes' A People's Tragedy: The Russian Revolution 1891-1924 and yet this work makes it very clear that the success of the Bolshevik's was never ordained and could have been derailed at any number of points.

In other words, a vast number of non-Wilsonian ducks had to line up before the events Powell lays solely on the shoulders of Woodrow Wilson could have occurred. That the author is intrinsically aware of this is shown by the fact that much of the book covers the periods after Wilson's final stoke and subsequent death in countries totally outside of the US' sphere. Admittedly, Powell does not link the German 1933 Enabling Act directly to Wilson but virtually every event before that is laid almost exclusively on the 28th President. Likewise he spends much space linking Lenin's propensity to the use of terror directly to the Wilson-enabled Bolshevik seizure of power despite Lenin's own pronouncements on the inherently violent Dictatorship of the Proletarian pre-date the War itself.

Wilson's War is sloppily written and a terrible work of history so anybody with any interest in America and the Great War might wish to look elsewhere. As an attempt at linking cause and effect the book deserves an 'epic fail' rating. It constitutes nothing less than an anti-Wilson tirade whose central argument is contradicted in many of the author's own source material.

However, if you link from here and buy it on Amazon, SubSim gets a little piece of the action. Probably the most positive comment I could make about it.

[mako88sb]

Stop giving away spoilers! :D




I've been fascinated by that, since Ballard's pictures show Bismarck buried up to the waterline, making it impossible to see any underwater damage. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me that the controversy is no closer to being solved than it ever was.

This documentary is the best I've seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BNGZSK3Oco

It includes interviews with Ted Briggs and Baron von Mullenheim-Rechberg. The Baron mentions the controversy and ends saying "You can say to both sides, 'You sank the Bismarck'".


I could never understand why it was considered a controversy seeing as there was no way the Bismarck would of ever been a threat again. If the Germans didn't scuttle her, she would of eventually sunk anyway or at most required a few more torpedo's to finish her off. Scuttling just hastened the inevitable.

[Sailor Steve]

I have the 1980 version, so of course I'm no help there at all.

From what I remember Ballard's point was that she was sunk by the crew rather than as a result of the damages.
I've read several commentaries on the available information, and I'm still at a loss to understand on what he bases that claim. He says there is no evidence of underwater shell hits or torpedo penetrations, yet every photograph and illustration shows the hull sitting in mud up to the waterline. There is no way to see if there is underwater damage or not. I fail to see how Dr. Ballard or anyone else can draw any conclusion more absolute than "unknown".

[Jimbuna]

The Bismarck was hit by double figure torpedo hits.....draw your own conclusion :hmm2:

[Cybermat47]

The Bismarck was hit by double figure torpedo hits.....draw your own conclusion :hmm2:

It was Obama!

[mako88sb]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Tz-0A2iOL.jpg

I read on "The Caine Mutiny" IMDB forum about how an officer aboard the USS Vance displayed some similar traits as Lt. Cmdr. Queeg so I finally managed to track down a copy of Neil Sheehan's book. Some pretty incredible instances of strange behavior to say the least. I started with the prologue and I after 45mins I started to think I missed chapter one somehow. Nope, after checking out the contents page, I realized the prologue is 38 of 257 pages! Kind of odd but I guess the author used it for a bit of venting about Arnheiter's behavior that turned him from a proponent of the ex-captain to one who could easily see why the crew took the actions they did.

Just curious how many in the USA navy besides Marcus Arnheiter managed to obtain the command of a ship after being passed over for promotion while an ensign? According to the book, only 5% of ensigns are passed over.

[Red October1984]

It was Obama!

http://worldofhagen.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/shocked_face.jpeg

NO! It can't be!


Well...time to add another problem to the list of things he's done...

[sharkbit]

The Bismarck was hit by double figure torpedo hits.....draw your own conclusion :hmm2:

How many penetrated the armor belt, that is the million dollar(or pound?) question? :hmmm:

We'll probably never know.

:)

[Subnuts]

Just finished reading The Evolution of the Wooden Ship. Not really what the title suggests (only the first quarter of the book is actually about the evolution of wooden ships) but a really nice book anyway. Most of the book describes the construction of a two-masted schooner at a small English shipyard in the late 1800s. Lots of wonderfully detailed drawings, showing every step of the building process, from creating the wooden half-model to stepping the masts. Fascinating to think that 7 or 8 skilled craftsmen could build a 120-ton ship in under a year, using only simple hand tools and without drawing a single blueprint.

[Dammit_Carl!]

Inside the VC and NVA by Michael Lee Lanning and Dan Cragg

And I just found the Air University Press Book Store, so got some additional things to ingest that'll hopefully look good in the ol' AF Personnel Folder (maybe).

[Cybermat47]

This one is always a good read:
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/8095/photofeb26074812.jpg

It pretty much covers everything remotely military of the third Reich!

http://imageshack.us/a/img526/1461/photofeb26074833.jpg


I highly recommend it to everyone! Each chapter is written by an expert in that field, so there's top-grade information all the way!

[Red October1984]

That's nice Cybermat but I got a bunch of books on my list to read.... :salute:

[iambecomelife]

The Bismarck was hit by double figure torpedo hits.....draw your own conclusion :hmm2:

I thought it was no more than six?

Two from aircraft, one from HMS "Rodney", and three from "Dorsetshire"?:hmmm:

[Gendall]

Red Rabbit volume 1 by Tom Clancy.

I've always wanted to read a book from him and so I finaly jumped into it.

P.S: it's in french.

Previous book readed :
The Godfather by Mario Puzo, in english.

[Red October1984]

Red Rabbit volume 1 by Tom Clancy.

I've always wanted to read a book from him and so I finaly jumped into it.

Oooooohhhhh! A FELLOW CLANCY READER! I'm an American High School student and I can proudly say that I read every one of his main Ryanverse series...plus some of the little series' books.

To be honest, Red Rabbit...while very good...was not the best. The best is still a tie between Without Remorse, The Hunt For Red October, Rainbow Six, The Bear and The Dragon, and Debt of Honor/Executive Orders (They pretty much go together)


I highly recommend Without Remorse to start out with. Then move into Red Rabbit and then The Hunt for Red October.

[Jimbuna]

I thought it was no more than six?

Two from aircraft, one from HMS "Rodney", and three from "Dorsetshire"?:hmmm:

Good point and I was just discussing this with Steve on Skype yesterday:

Dorsetshire actually fired three torpedoes. Here is a list of all known/possible torpedo hits (not counting claims by Vian's destroyers):

http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2722

[Cybermat47]

Many here will be familiar with this one:

http://imageshack.us/a/img132/2237/photomar11185747.jpg

[Red October1984]

I'm about to start Tom Clancy's SSN just to see how bad it is.


@ Cybermat47 WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THING IN YOUR SIG?

[Herr-Berbunch]

Forgotten Voices of the Secret War (http://www.forgottenvoices.co.uk/secret_war.html), it's the first book in the Forgotten Voices series that I have read and I am enjoying it so far.

Anyone not familiar with this series it is a transcription of archived voice interviews from survivors of conflict in the 20th century, owned by the Imperial War Museum.

http://www.iwmshop.org.uk/images/prod_19904.jpg

[Sepp von Ch.]

Die Versorger der Grauen Wölfe. Einsatz und Schicksal der deutschen U-Tanker 1941-44
Splendid book.

[Jimbuna]

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4137/98248855.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/98248855.jpg/)

[Cybermat47]

I'm about to start Tom Clancy's SSN just to see how bad it is.

My Dad's got that. I haven't read it yet. Perhaps I shouldn't...

@ Cybermat47 WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THING IN YOUR SIG?

I honestly don't have any idea. I got it from here: http://unhalo.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

That is one strange site.

[Jimbuna]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/c_jane24/Smileys/smilies%202/hsbunchieteef.gif http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5760/bananariderhz31.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541/bananariderhz31.gif/)

[Red October1984]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/c_jane24/Smileys/smilies%202/hsbunchieteef.gif http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5760/bananariderhz31.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541/bananariderhz31.gif/)

HAHA! Made my afternoon right there. :har: There's two of those things. I can't look at them with a straight face.

My Dad's got that. I haven't read it yet. Perhaps I shouldn't...

I've heard some negative things about it. I'm going to go ahead and read it because I can.

[Raptor1]

Was SSN actually written by Tom Clancy? I've not read it, so I can't say, but given how much it apparently sucks I've been under the impression that it was one of those collaborations where Martin Greenberg did much of the actual writing while Tom Clancy was mostly involved by having his name put on it.

While I'm here, I suppose I might as well list what I am reading right now:

Non-fiction:

Frederick the Great: A Military Life by Christopher Duffy

Fiction:

World of Ptavvs by Larry Niven
Post Captain by Patrick O'Brian
Flight of the Falcon by Victor Milán

Comic books:

Kingdom Come by Mark Waid and Alex Ross
52 by a whole bunch of people

Usually I only read one or two books at a time, but somehow I've managed to accumulate this many. I have even more books I'm part way through, but these are the only ones I am actively reading. Also, I should really find something actually submarine-related to read at some point...

[Herr-Berbunch]

Was SSN actually written by Tom Clancy? I've not read it, so I can't say, but given how much it apparently sucks I've been under the impression that it was one of those collaborations where Martin Greenberg did much of the actual writing while Tom Clancy was mostly involved by having his name put on it.

I've tried telling him before, but he just put on his Tom Clancy headphones, surrounded himself with a wall made from Tom Clancy (et al :03: ) novels, and played Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. until I ran out of breath.

Wow - six things on the go Raptor1! I'm lucky if I can manage more than one.

[Red October1984]

Was SSN actually written by Tom Clancy? I've not read it, so I can't say, but given how much it apparently sucks I've been under the impression that it was one of those collaborations where Martin Greenberg did much of the actual writing while Tom Clancy was mostly involved by having his name put on it.

I'm told that you can't even tell that Clancy wrote it. It's probably just the "Let's put his name on it so it will sell" type of things.

[Red October1984]

I've tried telling him before, but he just put on his Tom Clancy headphones, surrounded himself with a wall made from Tom Clancy (et al :03: ) novels, and played Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. until I ran out of breath.

I actually just finished the HAWX Novel...it was a pretty sad excuse for a novel. I love Clancy's stuff...so you can't change my mind on it. I liked Threat Vector...and Dead or Alive...and Locked On....and Against All Enemies....and The Teeth of the Tiger....

Which all happened to be a bit farfetched I do think. The Campus thing couldn't possibly exist...

[Jimbuna]

Hope to start reading this in the next day or so.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/171/91913753.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/91913753.jpg/)

[Dammit_Carl!]

Taking another run at The Sword and the Shield; The Mitrokhin Archive and the History of the KGB.

I love spy stuff, but dang is this one a slog.

[sharkbit]

"War Beneath the Seas: Submarine Conflict During World War II" by Peter Padfield.

Third time I've read it. Good overview of the submarine war. I have always liked his coverage of the British boats in the Med. Before I read this book, I knew very little of their operations. It is amazing what they did sailing out of Malta.

:)

[Jimbuna]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6707/40736455.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/40736455.jpg/)

[Subnuts]

I just recently finished reading A Higher Call by Adam Makos. Mostly bought it because there was an article about it on CNN last week. It was good, but not as good as the hundreds of five-star reviews on Amazon would have had me believe. I swear people go hog-wild for World War II human interest stories because they're too afraid of offending veterans by saying that the book was "just ok."

[Sepp von Ch.]

With my beautiful newborn I have now much less time to read about subs, but I just recently finished U-Boat 977: The U-Boat that Escaped to Argentina by Heinz Schäffer (I can not still believe that the submarine had enough fuel for the way from Germany to Argentina (and this U-Boat returned back again from english coast to Norwegian banks and then went back without refueling in the way).

[sharkbit]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6707/40736455.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/40736455.jpg/)

Oh my....the book looked interesting so I looked on Amazon: $220 for a new copy, $70 for a used copy. :o

:)

[Sailor Steve]

Oh my....the book looked interesting so I looked on Amazon: $220 for a new copy, $70 for a used copy. :o

:)
It's a reference, and well worth the money. You don't want to know what I just spent for Conway's Warship volumes XI and XII. :dead:

[Red October1984]

I'm still reading SSN. I'm over halfway through it.

Aside from the fact that the characters are flatter than paper, unoriginal story, and that it isn't as detailed as some other books, I like it. It's like reading a dumbed down version of Dangerous Waters.

How many times will China try to take the South China Sea in fiction? :timeout:

[Raptor1]

I'm still reading SSN. I'm over halfway through it.

Aside from the fact that the characters are flatter than paper, unoriginal story, and that it isn't as detailed as some other books, I like it. It's like reading a dumbed down version of Dangerous Waters.

How many times will China try to take the South China Sea in fiction? :timeout:

Aren't you just better off playing Dangerous Waters rather than reading a dumbed down version of it that has no literary merit whatsoever? :hmmm:

[Red October1984]

Aren't you just better off playing Dangerous Waters rather than reading a dumbed down version of it that has no literary merit whatsoever? :hmmm:

I guess. I like the book well enough. I don't have many Modern Submarine fiction books to read. I chose this one cause it's a Clancy one that I haven't read yet. After this, I'll have read all the main books that he wrote and "Co-wrote"

[Jimbuna]

Oh my....the book looked interesting so I looked on Amazon: $220 for a new copy, $70 for a used copy. :o

:)

My copy is an ebook in pdf.

[Crécy]

Finally started reading the ol' classic, Run Silent, Run Deep by Edward L. Beach and it is compelling! Have almost finished it after two days of reading.

[sharkbit]

Finally started reading the ol' classic, Run Silent, Run Deep by Edward L. Beach and it is compelling! Have almost finished it after two days of reading.

Make sure you get the other two from the "trilogy"- "Dust on the Sea" which takes place right where RSRD leaves off and "Cold is the Sea" which takes place during the Cold War with the same characters.

:)

[Red October1984]

Finally started reading the ol' classic, Run Silent, Run Deep by Edward L. Beach and it is compelling! Have almost finished it after two days of reading.

I still have to get that book. The movie is in my top 3 sub movies of all time. The other two are Das Boot and The Enemy Below....but now, Destination Tokyo was also pretty damn good.

I want to read the books so bad though. :yep:

[thesilentsub]

Metro 2033
http://img1.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n57/n286908.jpg]
A lot better than the game in my opinion but not exactly an easy read.

[Red October1984]

Metro 2033! That's another one that is going on my Books-to-Buy list! :woot:

[Crécy]

Make sure you get the other two from the "trilogy"- "Dust on the Sea" which takes place right where RSRD leaves off and "Cold is the Sea" which takes place during the Cold War with the same characters.

:)

Thanks, didn't know it was a part of a 'trilogy'. Definitely have to read those as well.

[Dammit_Carl!]

Still banging my head against the previously mentioned tome (book is hella thick) so I buckled down and promptly started on two other books.

Nothing to Envy:Ordinary Lives in North Korea by Barbara Demick. Very interesting - it is basically interviews with NK defectors about their lives back in NK, what pushed them to make a run for it, and how they've adapted to South Korean culture.

Kill Anything that Moves - The Real American War in Vietnam by Nick Turse. I have to tell you, I had no idea on the tactics/policies that were used on the population of South Vietnam during the war; all the things I have read up to this point was the usual stuff from the military point of view/reporting style. If this book is even somewhat correct, then...I don't even know what to say. I honestly have to put this one down every few pages and just process what I've read.

[RustySubmarine]

Just started reading Nightmare At Scapa Flow - The Truth About The Sinking Of The 'Royal Oak' by H.J. Weaver. Apparently, There were a few myths about what actually happened when U47 sneaked into the anchorage. This book looks at different accounts on what actually happened by surviving crew members and other witness accounts that came to light after the war.

Another interesting read is 'U boat Bases & Bunkers 1940 -1945' by Williamson Gordon. This book gives an account of the massive structures built in France, Germany & Norway, to house the U boats. There is also references to other German U boat bases in Greece, Croatia (as it is now) and other bases in the Far East. Not just a reference book, but gives an account of what life was like for those who worked in them and lived around them.

[Red October1984]

I finished SSN a few days ago... It was okay I guess.

I'm reading Team Yankee by Harold Coyle right now. I like it so far. :cool:

[Jimbuna]

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6489/21881793.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/714/21881793.jpg/)

[Sepp von Ch.]

New addition to my library - Die Unterseeboote der Kaiserlichen Marine

http://www.amazon.de/Unterseeboote-Kaiserlichen-Marine-Eberhard-R%C3%B6ssler/dp/3763759638/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365238856&sr=8-1&keywords=Unterseeboote+der+kaiserlichen+Marine

Splendid book!

[Lionclaw]

About half way through "Lords of the Bow" by Conn Iggulden. Nice read so far. :)

[ninja turtle]

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6489/21881793.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/714/21881793.jpg/)

I finished that book the other week. Most interesting read :up:

It also mentions U534 which is on display in Birkenhead, England which was also recommended to view by RustySubmarine and U505 which is open to the public in Chicago. Bit far for me to go and visit but Birkenhead is more do-able :yep:

[ninja turtle]

I'm currently reading "Nightmare at Scapa Flow: The Truth" :06:

Well written but only half-way through so far.

Just started reading Nightmare At Scapa Flow - The Truth About The Sinking Of The 'Royal Oak' by H.J. Weaver. Apparently, There were a few myths about what actually happened when U47 sneaked into the anchorage. This book looks at different accounts on what actually happened by surviving crew members and other witness accounts that came to light after the war.

Is this by my recommendation, by any chance my sea-faring friend? :03:

[RustySubmarine]

Just finished reading Das Boot. Seen the film hundreds of times, but never actually read the book. The film is pretty much the same as the book, but the book I found spends more time describing what boredom is like in the two chapters, Friggin Around 1 & Friggin Around 2. One thing which made me laugh was the U boat Fly. It had obviously flew into the boat when in dock and decided to make itself at home. It remains on board during all the action and is even still present during the Gibralta incident. The author mentions this fly on quite a few instances and I just thought it quite funny, as though it was part of the crew.

I have now started reading Steel Boat Iron Hearts by Hans Goebler, about his experiences aboard U505. Very good up to press and different, that it is written by an ordinary crew member, instead of a U boat captain as is usually the case for most books about U boat patrols.

Next book I shall read is Thetis Down by Tony Booth. This is the story of what happened to the British T Class submarine, which sank in Liverpool Bay on 1st June 1939, whilst on sea trials, with all hands except, four who managed to escape.

[RustySubmarine]

I'm currently reading "Nightmare at Scapa Flow: The Truth" :06:

Well written but only half-way through so far.



Is this by my recommendation, by any chance my sea-faring friend? :03:

Yes it was Glenn and a very good read too. I've got another book called The Sinking Of The Royal Oak by Dilik Sarkar. This very thin book 152 pages, is taken from Surviving Crew Members. Not read this yet though.

[ninja turtle]

Just finished reading Das Boot

My next book to read and the fly is an interesting writing feature I guess. A bit like the old proverbial fly on the wall? :haha:

[Jimbuna]

My next book to read and the fly is an interesting writing feature I guess. A bit like the old proverbial fly on the wall? :haha:

Enjoy :sunny:

[Red October1984]

I left early from school to go play baseball today and left my backpack at school. I didn't get back to get it. So now, I have to go tonight without reading Team Yankee. I really like the book. It's good...but I can't read anything tonight... :/\\!!

[RustySubmarine]

Just found another brilliant book, written by one of the ordinary crew members aboard HMS Safari, a British S Class Sub based at Malta during 1942 - 1943. Crash Dive: In Action with HMS Safari 1942 - 1943 by Arthur P Dickson.

Below is the book description, taken from Amazon UK


HMS "Safari" was one of the most successful British submarines of World War II. Between March 1942 and September 1943, she sailed some 31,312 nautical miles and spent 139 days submerged. During this time, she fought 59 actions against Axis shipping and sank 34 ships, totalling 85,000 tonnes. As the sub's Leading Telegraphist, Arthur Dickison had a privileged position in the crew. With access to all signals traffic and the navigation officer as his "boss", Arthur was afforded a unique insight into daily operations. Throughout 18 months of war patrols he kept a personal diary (strictly against the rules) of life aboard "Safari", recording daily events that ranged from the tedium of long sea passages to stalking enemy convoys; from crash dives to fighting it out with enemy shipping on the surface; from making submerged attacks with torpedoes to "sitting it out" on the sea bottom while depth charges rained down all around. Pervading all his diary entries is the underlying fear that both he and "Safari" might never see England again. The full range of the submariner's experience - and of human emotion - is here in this eyewitness account (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crash-Dive-Action-Safari-1942-43/dp/0750920890/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_img_1_NVFD#). Unusual in that it was written by a rating and not an officer, it also differs from other accounts due to Dickison writing down his thoughts at the time of the events he describes.




Below is one of many reader reviews taken from Amazon UK

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Crash Dive: In Action with HMS Safari 1942 - 1942 by Arthur P Dickson

This review is from: Crash Dive: In Action with HMS "Safari", 1942-43: In Action with HMS "Safari", 1942-43 (Paperback) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crash-Dive-Action-22Safari-22-1942-43/dp/0750931744/ref=cm_cr_pr_orig_subj)
This book is one of the few I've read which was written by a member of the "lower deck". In no way does this detract from it's value as a historical document. It is as good an account as any I've previously read and covers the author's patrols in HMS Safari during World War 2. There is a very real sense of "being there" as the author takes us through eighteen months of submarine warfare in the Mediterranean (http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/0750920890/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1#), in a conversational style which makes it a very easy read indeed. Perhaps the biggest difference from the previous book on HMS Safari, by her first captain Commander Ben Bryant with his "we're all in this together" attitude, is the real animosity - bordering on betrayal - which the crew felt when Bryant left Safari after her 14th patrol and returned to England to great personal acclaim. The crew, rightly in my opinion, felt that they had also contributed to the success of Safari & deserved to share in the praise given solely to her ex captain, whilst they continued to patrol & sink shipping in the Med. A real contribution to World War 2 submarine history & one of the best.
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[Jimbuna]

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[u crank]

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Good stuff and very enlightening.:up:

[Sailor Steve]

Looks like my kind of book. :sunny:

Last year I read Peter Padfield's Tide of Empires series, which starts with Da Gama's trade war in the Middle East. I had always heard of him as explorer, but never as conquerer merchant. I'm sure a book solely devoted to the man will give a lot better detail. Let us know how it is.

[Red October1984]

Anybody have any good book recommendations for me? I have some in my shelf but I'm looking for something different.

Raptor1 gave me a few recommendation on BattleTech books. I'll get those eventually...but I'd like something else.

Anything in either of these categories would be good.

Submarine Warfare-Preferably American submarines
World War 2
World War 3
Post Apocalyptic
War Memoirs
Modern/Near Future Warfare

I have Das Boot, Run Silent Run Deep, Silent Victory ( :dead: That's gonna be a long read ), Sword Point, We Were Soldiers...Once and Young, and Faith of My Fathers on my list to read this summer. I need to track down a copy of Das Boot and RSRD sometime.

[Cybermat47]

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What type of boat is that on the front?

[Jimbuna]

What type of boat is that on the front?

Type XXIII U-2336

[u crank]

Looks like my kind of book. :sunny:

Last year I read Peter Padfield's Tide of Empires series, which starts with Da Gama's trade war in the Middle East. I had always heard of him as explorer, but never as conquerer merchant. I'm sure a book solely devoted to the man will give a lot better detail. Let us know how it is.

Actually I just finished it Steve. I would recommend it. First he gives an over view of the long conflict between Islam and Christianity which has a direct bearing on the voyages of Da Gama. I always thought that the crusades were a Medieval thing, but apparently not. Columbus' and Da Gama's voyages changed the world in a profound way. Before reading this one I read this.

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Five hundred years ago the world was changed in significant ways by trade. Plants, animals and humans, mostly slaves got moved around and had unusual results, it's fascinating. Good read as well.

[Sepp von Ch.]

Luc Brauer´s newest books:

U-Boote
Peter Cremer
commandaqnt du U-333: le survivant

and

U-Boote! Lorient Aout 1942 - Aout 1943


Excellent photographic study materials!

[Subnuts]

Stunning book. Some of the best underwater photography I've ever seen.
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[Dowly]

Finally ordered me a book about ancient Rome, so starting on
'In the Name of Rome: The Men Who Won the Roman Empire' by Adrian Goldsworthy :up:

[Red October1984]

Started Sword Point by Harold Coyle a few days ago...

I like it... Harold Coyle is a pretty good writer. I wish Team Yankee had a better ending though. :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

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[Sailor Steve]

The Copernican Revolution: Planetary Astronomy in the Development of Western Thought, by Thomas S. Kukn, Harvard University Press, 1957.

[Jimbuna]

Show off :O:

[Sailor Steve]

Show off :O:
No, I was looking over all the stuff I just have sitting on the shelf that I've never read, and I was thinking about a biography of Raleigh and looking for Morison's biography of Columbus. I couldn't find Columbus, and I cursed Sir Walter Raleigh (he was such a stupid git), and then I spotted that one. I thumbed through it and it looked like an easy read written for the layman, and I thought "Why not?"

So there it is. :sunny:

[markdenny]

Just finished TORPEDO JUNCTION by Homer Hickman jnr really good read highly recommended and on a slightly different note SMILE the story of Brian WILSONS lost masterpiece. :D

[Hottentot]

Mikhail Heller's "Cogs in the Soviet Wheel: the Formation of Soviet Man" from 1988. It's for the thesis so I'm supposed to be motivated, but man, this book is still giving me headache. I was referred to this book by another one from 2009. The author of the latter book said that Heller's book is still one of the few comprehensive studies of the Soviet man and praised it highly. So off I went to library to get it and started reading.

The introduction didn't have anything to do with what the book is supposed to be about: it was Heller's rant about Gorbachev. The book itself has very little to do with the concept of the Soviet man. Heller mostly goes pages and pages about how evil the Soviet system is. He refers to George Orwell's 1984 more than to any, I don't freaking know, proper research or source. There are few good points and very valid observations in there, but they have to be picked up from the text mass that seemingly doesn't relate to anything.

Funnily enough I also had a book "Soviet Man" by Georgi Smirnov on my shelf a while ago and found it equally chore to read, but only for a different reason: Smirnov wrote like a devoted Soviet supporter and went on for pages and pages about the imperialist propaganda and how the capitalist countries are envious of the communist glory. It was just as useless, only from an opposite point of view.

Not that I wouldn't know how to approach a book -any book-, especially on a controversial subject such as the USSR, but sometimes I have to wonder why didn't I pick an easier subject. :-?

[Sepp von Ch.]

Now S. Harper´s Kampf um Enigma. Die Jagd auf U-559,

[STEED]

Just finshed the first of four books by Jonathan Trigg..

Hitler's Gauls
The History of the 33rd Waffen SS Divison Charlemagne

Now reading his second one..

Hitler's Flemish Lions
The History of the 27th SS-Freiwilligen Grenadier Divison Langmarck (Flamische NR.1)

[Red October1984]

Apparently, I have two large stacks of military books on their way to me from my friend.

I'll post the titles later but apparently there are some good naval books he threw in there for me.

[Red October1984]

Here's my take from my friend's 3 large crates of books

Ghost Recon Choke Point-Peter Telep

The Hunters-WEB Griffin

Red Sand-R. Karl Largent

Act of Valor-Dick Couch and George Galdorisi

HMS Ulysses-Alistair Maclean

Blind Man's Bluff: The Untold Story of American Submarine Espionage-Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew

Operation Napoleon-Arnaldur Indridason

Close Combat- WEB Griffin

The Honor Of Spies-WEB Griffin

Victory and Honor-WEB Griffin

Marshalling the Faithful: The Marines' First Year in Vietnam-Charles W. Henderson

Give Us This Day-Sidney Stewart

Secret Honor-WEB Griffin

Rites of War- C. A. Mobley

Kill Alex Cross-James Patterson

A Code For Tomorrow-John J. Gobbell

The Intruders-Stephen Coonts

Kilo Class-Patrick Robinson

Black Wind-Clive Cussler

Firing Point-George Wallace and Don Keith


That's a pretty good haul I think. Never read any of these but I've heard of many of the authors.

[Jimbuna]

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[Sailor Steve]

Looks good! I have an older book on German coastal flotillas which looks to be similar.

[Jimbuna]

When I first looked at it I was immediately impressed with the amount of comprehensive attention to detail regarding weapons, equipment, flotillas, areas of operations etc. not to mention the abundance of photographs.

[Cybermat47]

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Looks great! Did E-boats actually see much action?

[Jimbuna]

Looks great! Did E-boats actually see much action?

That is one of the main things that struck me...they were very active in the Med and fought in the English Channel and North Sea right up to the wars end.

I'll see if I can scan a few of the pictures.

[Sailor Steve]

Somewhere in my stuff I have an old paperback about the Channel war from the British MTB sailor's side. There was a lot of action. :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Off to pick a mate up from the Tyne Ferry then I'll do a bit copying and pasting.

[Jimbuna]

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[Red October1984]

I just started The Red Circle by Brandon Webb.

He's a former Navy Seal Sniper who trained Chris Kyle and other famous snipers. This book is awesome so far! And it was a complete bargain at 5$ on the discount shelf.

This is why I've been up til 0200 every night... :oops:

[Subnuts]

Started reading the Haynes "workshop manual" for the Eurofighter Typhoon. I'm completely addicted to this series, and own 25 of them, but this one is a big disappointment so far. No real technical insights, no detailed schematics, just lots of pretty pictures and endless gushing that sounds like it comes from an RAF press release. I'm only a third of the way in, and I keep waiting for the author to say the plane cures cancer.

[Dowly]

With Metro:Last Light out, I thought I'd better play through Metro 2033 finally.

To go with that, I ordered the first book as well (Metro 2033, d'uh). Only read the
first chapter so far, but really liking the atmosphere it gives the reader. :yep:

[Red October1984]

With Metro:Last Light out, I thought I'd better play through Metro 2033 finally.

To go with that, I ordered the first book as well (Metro 2033, d'uh). Only read the
first chapter so far, but really liking the atmosphere it gives the reader. :yep:

Are the Metro games any good?

I've been eyeballing Metro 2033 for a while now... :hmmm:

[Dowly]

Are the Metro games any good?

I've been eyeballing Metro 2033 for a while now... :hmmm:

Oh, I'm loving Metro 2033! :rock: So much detail put to everything, it's almost a work of art. :yep:

In your case, you might want to get it on Xbox 360 (IIRC, you have one) as the
PC version is notorious for it's high hardware requirements. :hmmm:

[Red October1984]

Oh, I'm loving Metro 2033! :rock: So much detail put to everything, it's almost a work of art. :yep:

In your case, you might want to get it on Xbox 360 (IIRC, you have one) as the
PC version is notorious for it's high hardware requirements. :hmmm:

I've been planning on getting it for 360 anyway.

I love good post apoc stuff. I've been wanting to get STALKER for a while now too. :rock:

[Jimbuna]

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[Rambler]

I've just started Silent Victory, by Clay Blair. I'm through part I (pre-war) and I love it so far. Very nice style for a historical recounting, not at all dull or boring.:up:

[Jimbuna]

It gets better as the war progresses.

[Cybermat47]

Thanks for the E-boat info Jim. :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Thanks for the E-boat info Jim. :salute:

Your welcome http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[STEED]

Moved on to Jonathan Trigg's third book in his series Hitler's Legions.

Now reading..

Hitler's Jihadis
Muslim Volunteers of the Waffen SS

and after that I'm going to re-read the final one again.

Hitler's Vikings
The History of the Scandinavian Waffen SS: The Legions, The SS Wiking and the SS Norland

[Red October1984]

Almost done with The Red Circle.

If I met Brandon Webb, I would shake the guy's hand and (if I was old enough) buy him a drink. The guy is amazing.

If you haven't read the book, pick it up. I found it on the discount rack for $4.98 at Barnes & Noble.

I wonder if there's some way I could send it to him and get him to autograph it for me. :hmm2:

[Jimbuna]

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[Crécy]

Reading another classic: The Golden Horseshoe by Terence Robertson

[Crécy]

Reading another classic: The Golden Horseshoe by Terence Robertson

And it was excellent.

[Father Goose]

STEEL BOAT, IRON HEARTS - A U-boat crewman's life aboard U-505 by Hans Goebeler
Someone in Subsim recommended it so I purchased it. It's a great read. Thanks.

[Spiced_Rum]

As a coffee table book, one which I will read a chapter from every now and then, is currently 'The Milk Cows: The U-Boat Tankers at War' by John. F. White.

For fiction, I have just finished the excellent 'Best Served Cold' by the English author Joe Abercrombie. His books have well written plots, fascinating characters, are visceral and unpredictable, and a real pleasure to read. Recommend starting from the beginning of the First Law series, although each book is stand-alone.

[Heavy Fog]

Churchill's ''The second world war'' in 5 volumes

[Red October1984]

I cracked into American Sniper by Chris Kyle at about 0130 this morning. It was great. He didn't spend as much time talking about his training as Brandon Webb did. :hmmm:

I still like the book either way.

[Jimbuna]

Churchill's ''The second world war'' in 5 volumes

Excellent read :cool:

[Subnuts]

My Haynes manual addiction is slowly fading -thank God, because it's been burning a hole in my wallet! I just finished reading their "Enthusiast's Manual" on the Routemaster bus, because I was interested in those double-decker buses us Americans see in every movie ever filmed in London. Well, I certainly learned more than I ever wanted to know about the RM. The book even describes how the hydraulic accumulators work, the type of aluminum used in the attendant's platform, where to buy spare parts, basic maintenance procedures, how the destination blinds work...seriously, it was almost too much detail, but at least my curiosity is satisfied! :yep:

[rhohltjr]

Just finished "Japanese Destroyer Captain"
Capt. Tameichi Hara.

Glad there were not many like him in Japanese Navy in WW2.

He mentions attacking and sinking several subs in the book,
one because he saw a sub lookout light his cig so he attacked.
He claimed to sink it but I think it survived.

Pretty good read from the others perspective.:up:

[rhohltjr]

Finished "Shattered Sword" a few months ago.

Goes into great detail the damage and sinking of each of the Japanese Carriers at Midway.

Pretty good read with some insight and perspective from the other side..:up:

[fred8615]

Sink The Tirpitz

I had checked this book out of the library a couple of times when I was much younger. I've been watching on eBay, and somebody finally posted a copy I could buy. :yeah:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Almost done with The Red Circle.

If I met Brandon Webb, I would shake the guy's hand and (if I was old enough) buy him a drink. The guy is amazing.

I wonder if there's some way I could send it to him and get him to autograph it for me. :hmm2:

Autographed Copies

Autographed copies are only available through The Red Circle Foundation (http://redcirclefoundation.org) and at exclusive speaking events. -Brandon


Buying him a drink doesn't just have to be alcohol.

I've just finished this -

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A great read about a South African who learned to fly, joined the SAAF, went to Korea, or return he joined the army and went back to Korea as a FAC, came to the UK and joined the RAF - rising through the ranks to AVM via Hunters, Lightnings, Phantoms and many more. Thoroughly recommended. :salute:

Now, on to Operation Drumbeat - I've heard it's supposed to be good. :D

[fred8615]

At Close Quarters: PT Boats in the United States Navy

All about the PT Boat operations in WWII. I just bought it this morning as an Amazon Kindle e-book, my first ever. So now I'm more or less reading two books at once!

Now, on to Operation Drumbeat - I've heard it's supposed to be good.
I've read that. It is.

[Red October1984]

Buying him a drink doesn't just have to be alcohol.

I know that...but it seems to be the most popular choice. :)

And I saw that about the autographed copies. :up:

[STEED]

Just finish re-reading sickening book but well written as a re-fresher to the next book I just started.

Finished..
Masters of Death
The SS Einsatzgruppen and the Invention of the Holocaust
By Richard Rhodes

Now reading..
The Nuremberg SS-Einsatzgruppen Trial, 1945-1958
Atrocity, Law, And History
By Hillary Earl

[Red October1984]

I'm going to start reading "A Soldier's Dream: Captain Travis Patriquin and the Awakening of Iraq" by William Doyle tonight.

Looks alright. Not quite sure what to think about it since it was on the discount rack...then again....The Red Circle was on the discount rack and I loved that book.

[Sepp von Ch.]

John White´s Endgame. The U-Boat inshore campaign. I recommend.

[Jimbuna]

John White´s Endgame. The U-Boat inshore campaign. I recommend.

Good read :yep:

[Jimbuna]

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[Subnuts]

Bought a copy of Surface at the Pole by James Calvert today at Goodwill for $2. Open it up and find out that it's signed. A book by a submarine captain, signed by a submarine captain.

Wonder how much it's worth? :hmmm:

[Sailor Steve]

Wonder how much it's worth? :hmmm:
Priceless. Unless you can get several thousand, better to keep it. :sunny:

[Subnuts]

Before the pics or it didn't happen brigade shows up:
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[Red October1984]

Almost halfway through A Soldier's Dream...

I already know what I'm going to read next....

I found this wonderful-looking book in the back of one of our shelves at home:

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Only one of my most favorite movies ever and now I have the book! :shucks:

@Subnuts That's AWESOME!!!! :rock: :rock: :rock:

[Jimbuna]

Before the pics or it didn't happen brigade shows up:


Nice one :cool:

[sharkbit]

Just finished "Life of Pi". Still trying to wrap my head around that one. :hmmm:

Started "Uncle Tom's Cabin"

:)

[Jimbuna]

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[kranz]

Chris Bishop, German Infantry in WW II

Soon I'll be ordering: The End: Hitler's Germany 1944–45 (I.Kershaw) and sth about Waffen-SS :rock:

[Red October1984]

Reading Winter's Bone.

Great movie.....aaannndd so far an equally great book.

[Subnuts]

Currently reading Kaigun: Strategy, Tactics, and Technology in the Imperial Japanese Navy, 1887-1941. About a third of the way in and really enjoying it so far. Been too long since I've read a naval history so thick it shakes my entire dining room table if I drop it more than six inches. :)

[Sepp von Ch.]

U-Boot im Focus Nr. 9. Love this magazine:up:

[fred8615]

Re-reading Operation Drumbeat. This time the e-book edition.