The forum new look? (2006 LEGACY THREAD)

[STEED]

I do like the new look. :up:

[STEED]

Just to add I like the new way to do polls as well, what a nice clean crisp and wonderful look Subsims has got now. :D :D

:rock: :up: :rock: :up:

[CCIP]

I want to like it, but...

I'm such a phpBB junkie :damn:




Ask me again in about 3 months :88)

[STEED]

I want to like it, but...

I'm such a phpBB junkie :damn:




Ask me again in about 3 months :88)

Yes I know it's a bit of a shock but give it time. :sunny:

[Gizzmoe]

There are three different looks. SmartDark, haylazblue and Admin Blue.

[STEED]

Which look? There are three different. SmartDark, haylazblue and Admin Blue.

Well that's the background you choose, I am sticking with smartblack on that issue. I am talking about the whole thing in general.


THE COOL NEW THINGS WE CAN DO

[blue3golf]

I like the new look, keeps things fresh and still has a familiarity to it.

[Torplexed]

Seen this place go through many incarantiions through the years. Eventually, with use and time they all grow on you. Beats the old EZ Board on it's best day. :ping:

[Takeda Shingen]

Seen this place go through many incarantiions through the years. Eventually, with use and time they all grow on you. Beats the old EZ Board on it's best day. :ping:

EZ Board **Shudders**

[Iku-turso]

Looks nice,keep up the good work:up:

[Sailor Steve]

It's a little annoying learning how to navigate again, but on the whole I think it's fine. Looks very much like the old one, which helps.:up:

[Syxx_Killer]

Seen this place go through many incarantiions through the years. Eventually, with use and time they all grow on you. Beats the old EZ Board on it's best day. :ping:

Convulses uncontrollably.

I can't stand EZ Board...:damn::damn::damn:

[VON_CAPO]

It is annoying. :nope::nope::nope:

Plus, now there is a limit for images, included the smilies. Probably Subsim is running into economical troubles. :hmm:

Plus, no search into the threads. ---> I was looking for VON_CAPO = "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms." :down::down: (only 2 downs because is only permited till 6) :-(((

[Oberon]

It is annoying. :nope::nope::nope:

Plus, now there is a limit for images, included the smilies. Probably Subsim is running into economical troubles. :hmm:

Plus, no search into the threads. ---> I was looking for VON_CAPO = "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms." :down::down: (only 2 downs because is only permited till 6) :-(((

Try clicking on your name in the 'Captains online' bit, that'll give you an option to find all posts by VON CAPO, then you'll be alright.

[Onkel Neal]

Plus, no search into the threads. ---> I was looking for VON_CAPO = "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms." :down::down: (only 2 downs because is only permited till 6) :-(((


Read the announcement

[Ducimus]

When it comes to change, i drag my feet, as its something im resistant to.

I am however getting used to the new forums. :p

[VON_CAPO]

Read the announcement
Switched to vBulletin 3.5 Admin blue, now is much better. ;)

I will be patient about the search feature. :yep:

Thank you Neal Stevens. :up:

When it comes to change, i drag my feet, as its something im resistant to.

I am however getting used to the new forums. :p
Of course.:damn::damn:

[Onkel Neal]

Thank you, sir. :)

[Skybird]

Looks nice but I am having problems with text formatting and typing quotation marks, and other signs. Separating pargraphs, inserting empty lines and pressing the enter-button often is not recognized. Am I alone with that?

[scandium]

Prefer the old forum, though this isn't too bad.

[tycho102]

Once I figure out the icons, I think it'll be nice.

Only thing I have to mention is the post-window. I'd prefer a darker shade of grey, or black. The "smilies" box has it's title in light green, which is darn near unreadable against the off-white background.

Threads are sharp and very readable.

[edit: Looking at the "admin blue" skin, I like the boxes around full posts.]

[kiwi_2005]

:rock:I like this look way better, and everything is more larger easy on the eyes.

:up:

[Iceman]

I thought I had gone to the wrong forum or something at first lol...change is good. My text font seems a little big but I'll check it out...looks like it is setup for one of my senior citizen customers lmao.:rock: Still prefer the smart dark.

[Onkel Neal]

Once I figure out the icons, I think it'll be nice.



[edit: Looking at the "admin blue" skin, I like the boxes around full posts.]

Yeah, too many icons for my taste, would like to trim them down to essential but that would probably break something. :shifty:

[VON_CAPO]

Try clicking on your name in the 'Captains online' bit, that'll give you an option to find all posts by VON CAPO, then you'll be alright.
Thank you Oberon. :up:

[VipertheSniper]

Looks nice but I am having problems with text formatting and typing quotation marks, and other signs. Separating pargraphs, inserting empty lines and pressing the enter-button often is not recognized. Am I alone with that?

Got the same here, I think it's a browser specific problem tho, as I've written several posts today with IE, that didn't get any formatting, and one today with Opera, that did work like it should, right away.

I was also not able to save any edits in IE. (to get the text formatted properly)

[SUBMAN1]

It's a little annoying learning how to navigate again, but on the whole I think it's fine. Looks very much like the old one, which helps.:up:

I agree - annoying on the navigation part.

Also, very hard on the eyes in others, particularily things in quotes. The two colors don't have enough contrast.

-S

[Gizzmoe]

I agree - annoying on the navigation part.

What exactly don´t you like about it?

[SUBMAN1]

What exactly don´t you like about it?

I'm getting used ot it now, but examples are quote buttons at the bottom of the page vs the top, etc.

I have a new complaint now - you have a 7500 character post limit now. This means you can't quote Skybird and have any room left to type! :D

-S

[Skybird]

Just understood that I need to lower securoity level of Explorer from High to Medium in order to be able to use text formatting function to any good. And immediately I successfully scanned with a-suqared and adaware and spybot and had seven hits - more than I have in a quarter of a year, usually. Like the new look, but from a security perspective I prefer the old forum. Participating in this new forum compormises my outer defense lines, which had proven to be successful and strong over the last years.

[Skybird]

I'm getting used ot it now, but examples are quote buttons at the bottom of the page vs the top, etc.

you have a 7500 character post limit now.

Autsch, that seriously hurts!!!

[SUBMAN1]

Autsch, that seriously hurts!!!

Hahaha! Sorry! But it is a serious limitation for any detailed discussion around here. The old board never had such a limitation.

-S

[Bort]

I dunno, I like the old one more, this one just seems more...busy. More cluttered, I don't mind this layout, but I liked the old one more.:yep:

[Gizzmoe]

I successfully scanned with a-suqared and adaware and spybot and had seven hits

What did they report? Tracking cookies?

[XabbaRus]

It looks a bit cluttered when you come to the main page. Too many columns.

I preffered the Post Status Animation/Post Name/Post Starter/Last reply format.

I feel like I get info overload looking at it.

[Linton]

Why does Subcommand become a sub thread of Dangerous waters?Why not call that section something else or move SC down into the area for other games?Also why does a symbol of a page appear above everybodys postings that says default when you put the mouse arrow over it?

[Skybird]

What did they report? Tracking cookies?

Don't ask me afterwards. Think I had cookies, but also some other stuff after cklicking on some links within texts (maybe from those attached websites).

I definetly do not like to run IE in medium mode, whereas maximum settings so far always has saved me from any annoyances.

At least I can passively scan the forum with max setting. Need to make it a rule to switch to medium only when writing a post, and not longer.

Before I switched to medium only once or twice a month :-?

[Konovalov]

It looks a bit cluttered when you come to the main page. Too many columns.

I preffered the Post Status Animation/Post Name/Post Starter/Last reply format.

I feel like I get info overload looking at it.

Similar feeling here but I guess given some time I'll adjust to it. A change is as good as a holiday.
:sunny:

[scandium]

I'm starting to come around a bit on this new look as I use the forum a bit more. It still has a certain weirdness to it (the 7,500 character limit, my nested quotes I post not displaying, etc) but I'm noticing some small details about it now that I do like and which weren't present in the old forum software... plus there is the new chess forum bonus :up:

[Gizzmoe]

It still has a certain weirdness to it (the 7,500 character limit, my nested quotes I post not displaying, etc)

vBulletin doesn´t support nested quotes by default, one actually has to remove parts of the php code to make it work... :roll:

[Subsim Monitor]

I'm starting to come around a bit on this new look as I use the forum a bit more. It still has a certain weirdness to it (the 7,500 character limit, my nested quotes I post not displaying, etc) but I'm noticing some small details about it now that I do like and which weren't present in the old forum software... plus there is the new chess forum bonus :up:

Character limit doubled to 15,000

[Subsim Monitor]

It looks a bit cluttered when you come to the main page. Too many columns.

I preffered the Post Status Animation/Post Name/Post Starter/Last reply format.

I feel like I get info overload looking at it.

Think of it as going from an S-boat to a Virginia class. You'll have to requal. :ping:

[Skybird]

Came around the forum for longer now, and feel that my final opinion has formed up.

Don't like the length-limit of postings.

Don't like needing to soften up IE settings to be able to format text.

I find the visual layout, especially what has been called "information overload" by someone, not fully convincing. Too much little gimmicks to fiddle around with. I prefer a limited number of big knobs to slam my fist on. Mayn details that are visible know - I do not find myself in need for. Gives it all a "nervous", "fragile" look.

I found the possebility to paste-and-copy text from other websites someohow limited. sometimes the "extract"-function was not available. Formatting of such text (a table I wanted to copy in the chess-thread) was difficult, I needed several attempts to make that table NOT appear in one flowing textline.

But I like the sub-forum-feature.

The old forum had a quality that I would describe as "compactness of ergonomy".

My vote is somewhere between "I don't know" and "No", which translates into "not really convinced of the need to change it". Sorry.

[Subsim Monitor]

Don't like the length-limit of postings. Of course, for security there has to be some limit, or we could get spammed to the point of overloading the server. I've doubled the limit, now 15,000 characters, if anyone routinely finds the new limit to be a problem, let me know. Not many people can compose SIX pages of text for discussion. If one is wanting to copy a lengthy text from the web, just add part and include a link to it.


Don't like needing to soften up IE settings to be able to format text. Nothing I can do about that, just go with no formatting. The old forum had limited formatting functions, stick with that.


I find the visual layout, especially what has been called "information overload" by someone, not fully convincing. Too much little gimmicks to fiddle around with. I prefer a limited number of big knobs to slam my fist on. Many details that are visible know - I do not find myself in need for. Gives it all a "nervous", "fragile" look. Yeah, I always had the same impression of vB and invision forums, packed with more extras than I wanted or needed. Some people here told me they liked the extra stuff, some don't.


The old forum had a quality that I would describe as "compactness of ergonomy". Aye, and that would be my preference. I still miss the clean and simple look of the old Subsim forums. http://www.subsim.com/phpBB_2002/index.php (http://www.subsim.com/phpBB_2002/index.php) Now that I think of it, some people felt the new phpBB forums were too fancy :D


My vote is somewhere between "I don't know" and "No", which translates into "not really convinced of the need to change it". Sorry.

No need to be sorry, but the change was strictly for performance reasons. I would not have spent the $$ and the time just for the thrill of changing. :) I spent several weeks checking and comparing forum software for something that had a working search, something that was secure (which phpBB is definitely not), something that had decent support (phpBB even worse in this department), and something that could would not draw huge demands on the server. This website has been funded mainly through Horsa, Hitman, Seeadler, Floater, McBeck and the Pacific Aces mod team, a little through ads and donations. The PA mod downloads have been declining for a year and the surplus from the first few months is gone. Therefore, it's not feasible to add a new server to handle the forums, apart from downloads server, and domains server. With the recent server issues I felt the next best option was to go with a commercial forum package. I'm not complaining about people having reservations with the vB software, some of the points you've made I agree with. A lot of this will be getting used to the new look and functions. But I think it had to be done. vBulletin is considered the industry leader in forum software, the best, and despite my normal inclination to be lazy and wish the server issue would go away, I decided to roll up my sleeves and do the work, pay for the best software, and try to get it as close in look and feel as the phpBB. I am open to more comments, suggestions, and complaints, because after all, this forum exists for you guys. Thanks for your patience and support.

Neal
your faithful web servant :ping:

[Abraham]

Yeah, too many icons for my taste, would like to trim them down to essential but that would probably break something. :shifty:

About SUBSIM.COM - We began as a bunch of kids, sleeping in an old abandoned beach house, eating sard

I was just wondering what Neal & John were eating in that deserted beach house...
:D

[Skybird]

Nichts für ungut, Neal, I already assumed the change was for technical and server issues (having experienced the many downtimes myself). We appreciate your effort, time and money, really!

[Subsim Monitor]

I was just wondering what Neal & John were eating in that deserted beach house...
:D

Whatever Bill left us to eat!

[Onkel Neal]

Nichts für ungut, Neal, I already assumed the change was for technical and server issues (having experienced the many downtimes myself). We appreciate your effort, time and money, really!

Thanks,
I know it is appreciated. I'm not suggesting feedback must be all positive, some negative feedback can help improve the forum.
cheers
Neal
(Let's see if my sig works now, hungry for some sard)

[Uber Gruber]

I hate it, seriously, its like it has a load of good bits and pieces but when you put them all together you end up with a complete mess aesthetically. I like WaW forums best, can we revert back to the old style ?

[Onkel Neal]

I hate it, seriously, its like it has a load of good bits and pieces but when you put them all together you end up with a complete mess aesthetically. I like WaW forums best, can we revert back to the old style ?

What is Waw?

Women for Afghan Women (http://www.womenforafghanwomen.org/)
Women for Afghan Women (WAW) is a women's collective of Afghan and non-Afghan women from the New York area who are committed to the human rights of Afghan ...
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[Oberon]

What is Waw?

Women for Afghan Women (http://www.womenforafghanwomen.org/)
Women for Afghan Women (WAW) is a women's collective of Afghan and non-Afghan women from the New York area who are committed to the human rights of Afghan ...
www.womenforafghanwomen.org/ - 3k - May 28, 2006 - Cached (http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:g18HRPB7Q5cJ:www.womenforafghanwome n.org/+waw&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4) - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=related:www.womenforafghanwomen.org/)
If I had to guess I'd say 'Wolves at War', the group for SHIII.


EDIT:

Right....that's a reason for me to switch from blue to Smartdark :P Didn't see the bits in white!!

[Onkel Neal]

What is a "bit"?

[Linton]

I have just discovered that if you click the small picture next to the users listing at the top of the page you get a listing showing who is looking at which thread.If you all discovered this days ago i will get my coat!

[Oberon]

What is a "bit"?

"A bit refers to a digit in the binary numeral system (base 2). For example, the number 1001011 is 7 bits long. Binary digits are almost always used as the basic unit of information storage and communication in digital computing and digital information theory. Information theory also often uses the natural digit, called either a nit or a nat. Quantum computing also uses qubits, a single piece of information with a probability of being true. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit)"

[DeepSix]

...I've doubled the limit, now 15,000 characters, if anyone routinely finds the new limit to be a problem, let me know. Not many people can compose SIX pages of text for discussion. If one is wanting to copy a lengthy text from the web, just add part and include a link to it. ...

Amen. Quote only the relevant parts, and snip the rest. Take some time to focus our attention on what it is you felt was worth quoting. - Ex-English teacher's point of view.:D

[Drebbel]

What is Waw?.....

Hee Neal, yellow text on a white back ground is not a good idea. So basically your post is invisible for people using the hazlazblue theme. People who want their posts be readable by all forum visitors better stay awat from text in light colours.

[Terrax]

Looks good, I like it.

[SUBMAN1]

Don't use the back button when you are posting. It erases everything!

-S

[Fish]

Got the same here, I think it's a browser specific problem tho, as I've written several posts today with IE, that didn't get any formatting, and one today with Opera, that did work like it should, right away.

I was also not able to save any edits in IE. (to get the text formatted properly)

I don't think it's the browser (IE 7) , I can edit without problems on other boards.

[Onkel Neal]

Hee Neal, yellow text on a white back ground is not a good idea. So basically your post is invisible for people using the hazlazblue theme. People who want their posts be readable by all forum visitors better stay awat from text in light colours.

How do I fix that?

[andy_311]

I like the new look but something puzzling me what do the smilely's in front of the thread mean?

[Onkel Neal]

That's supposed to be a hint of what kind of topic the thread contains. I personally find it superfluous.

[Abraham]

Hee Neal, yellow text on a white back ground is not a good idea. So basically your post is invisible for people using the hazlazblue theme. People who want their posts be readable by all forum visitors better stay awat from text in light colours.
Amen!

[Abraham]

Amen. Quote only the relevant parts, and snip the rest. Take some time to focus our attention on what it is you felt was worth quoting. - Ex-English teacher's point of view.:D
Congratulations with your millennium posting, Deep Six!:up:

[Onkel Neal]

This is an OLDE thread. I like to dig one up every now and then to see the old faces. Many of which are still going strong (Steed & Oberon, I'm looking at you :shucks:).

Been nearly 10 years since we upgraded forums... hmmmm....:smug:

[Dowly]

Been nearly 10 years since we upgraded forums... hmmmm....:smug:
If it ain't broke... ;)

[STEED]

This is an OLDE thread. I like to dig one up every now and then to see the old faces. Many of which are still going strong (Steed & Oberon, I'm looking at you :shucks:).

Been nearly 10 years since we upgraded forums... hmmmm....:smug:

Me what have I done now? :huh: :shifty: :haha:

Zombie Thread Alert

Where's the dam in flight magazine when you need it, you know read the contents helps to relax you. :03:

[nikimcbee]

This is an OLDE thread. I like to dig one up every now and then to see the old faces. Many of which are still going strong (Steed & Oberon, I'm looking at you :shucks:).

Been nearly 10 years since we upgraded forums... hmmmm....:smug:

Somehow I have failed.:03:

[nikimcbee]

Steed's not getting botox again is he?

[STEED]

Steed's not getting botox again is he?

Too busy sniffing..:shifty:

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..Coffee Beans. :88)

[Sailor Steve]

Me what have I done now? :huh: :shifty: :haha:
You were born. Isn't that enough damage? :O:

[STEED]

You were born. Isn't that enough damage? :O:

Right that dose it your going on my Xmas card list. :stare:

[Sailor Steve]

Right that dose it, your going on my Xmas card list. :stare:
Just be sure to spell the name right. It's Buna with a capital 'B'.

[Oberon]

Good lord, talk about a nostalgia hit...those names. Torplexed, Iceman, Gizzmoe...and of course, Abraham, bless him. :salute: :wah:

[STEED]

Just be sure to spell the name right. It's Buna with a capital 'B'.
:har: :up:

[nikimcbee]

Steed's homemade fruitcake recipe, just like mum used to make.:woot:

[STEED]

Steed's homemade fruitcake recipe, just like mum used to make.:woot:

Hey that was Top Secret like Coca~Cola! :/\\!!