WaW II campaign to launch next week!

[CCIP]

Just thought I'd give those who still haven't tried it and might be interested a heads-up.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5695/waw1zd.jpg (http://wolvesatwar.org/)
http://wolvesatwar.com/

The popular WaW campaign, which is about to successfully complete a first full run through the war in over a year of gameplay, is to start again in an improved version.

WaW uses SHIII's campaign structure to create a 'meta campaign' so that you don't feel like you're alone with nothing to do in the SHIII world - since in WaW, you have dozens of other Kaleuns doing their missions, and a flottilla commander on your back watching your progress, giving you orders, and reviewing your patrol reports. A lot of great stories and patrol logs have come out of WaW as well.

In the course of the first WaW, we sunk a total of over 16,000,000t, and lost over 70 U-boats.

WaW patrols are played at high realism settings, with NYGM Tonnage War being the standard mod. It's mandatorily "Dead is Dead" and we rely on an honor system in hopes that players will always try to act realistically - after all, it's not about tonnage! You can have multiple careers, too, if you're really "hardcore" about it.

WaW 2 will have a lot of new features, including an improved patrol log database, a 'virtual office', better career management and limited career length, resupply and adjusted patrol length.

Recruitment will start next week!

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For those completing/having completed your WaW campaign - look forward to seeing you re-enlisted and back at sea :)

-Jochen Mohr/Wolfgang Lüth

[HunterICX]

Nice, I think its worth a look on their page, maybe I'll sign up, hate beeing alone in my ship I want to meet some other U boats on the patrol :yep: :up:

[GreyOctober]

Thats the thing for me!! :up: Been sniffing around the page latelly and im sure as hell gonna sign up! Thanks for the headsup CCIP!

[squigian]

I might sign up after my exams are finished. Can't deal with revision and KTB logs at the same time! :D

[CybrSlydr]

What about Time Compression? What kind of time comittment are we talking about?

[iblitz]

What about Time Compression? What kind of time comittment are we talking about?

You will have 2 weeks to complete 1 patrol... you can use time compression. Everything is off-line etc..... just stop by the website (I'm redoing at the moment) or drop me a pm. Hope to see you there :up:

Good Hunting

BdU
WaW

[CybrSlydr]

Ok - with this talk of seeing "other Uboats on patrol", I thought this might be an online war much like IL2's VEF.

I just might do this. Lot less of a time comittment than I was expecting.

I've done 3 and 4 patrols in one session of SH3 before.

[CCIP]

I think the point of WaW is not to take the patrols too quickly. In fact I usually tended to have only one career active at the same time so that I could take full enjoyment of my patrols (in the case of Mohr, keeping a day-by-day log - and that's on a Type IX).

WaW is offline, but honestly - it just adds that extra immersion which SHIII originally lacked. I can't go back to just playing around offline on my own, now that I'm spoiled by this.

And yea, no multiplayer. There are other groups that do it; but we just haven't found a way to implement it into WaW without messing up the campaign structure.

[Firebird]

I might be interested to sign up as well, after my exams :roll:. What I don't find on the site (yet) is the allowed mods - is NYGM the only one allowed or is, say, NYGM + GW ok as well? :)

Greets,
Birdy.

[CCIP]

I think that's being discussed; I'd say as it has the key features of NYGM (such as the damage model, AA gun model, and a campaign with realistic traffic rates), then it's good enough. The goal is to have a level playing field for everyone, so to say.

[CybrSlydr]

This is, personally, kinda important to me...

Will enemy aircraft be the flying tanks of GW 1.1?

[squigian]

What kind of special patrols might one be assigned?

Rescues, resupplies, port raids? How will that work?

[iblitz]

What kind of special patrols might one be assigned?

Rescues, resupplies, port raids? How will that work?

There are several special missions.... far east drop-off, minelaying, etc... this are done by either fullfilling your orders or done by the mission editor and assigned to you. .....many more types of missions, I don't want to give them all away, but the members like them.

I'm working on a special map for them in the Campaign Office.

BdU
WaW

[iblitz]

Just a heads up.... this is a TENATIVE DATE, I may not have everything in place to start. I will announce it on the board when the date is set and we are ready to go... still have some things to iron out ;)
Thanks,


BdU
WaW

[Dowly]

See you at Kiel gentlemen.

WAWI P13-P22

Adolf Bummer II

[CybrSlydr]

So... flying tanks?

[CCIP]

This is, personally, kinda important to me...

Will enemy aircraft be the flying tanks of GW 1.1?

I'm not sure what GW 1.1 uses, but... since WaW sticks to realistic values as far as possible, I should hope that planes are indeed made hard to shoot down - as they were. Remember that there is no U-boat that ever shot down more than 4 planes, and even with NYGM I managed 7 in one of my careers. :hmm:

One point to make, though, is that for the most part WaW instructions make a point NOT to engage aircraft and warships unless as last resort for self-defense.

[CybrSlydr]

Well, while using GW 1.1 and doing the Flak Academy Mission, I used all of my 20mm ammo and never shot down a single plane, let alone smoke one.

So, once again, Flak guns will be rendered worthless. :nope: :(

With as frequent aircraft attacks become later in the war...

[CCIP]

That has to do with accuracy less than the plane strength, I believe - and the planes in academy mission are quite weak - that's to mention nothing of the fact you play it with a single 20mm peashooter. U-boats are very poor as flak platforms, since they're relatively unsteady.

I assure you that your Turm III tower and a lot of nerves will let you bring down any plane in 1943 - noone's going to let you out with just a single 20mm gun :P

As I said, I brought down 7 in my WaW IXD2 career as Luth, and that's more than any real commander did.

[Myxale]

WAW II will be the event of the summer! :up:

[Sailor Steve]

IBLITZ!!! Good to see you here. I remember the Iblitz campaigns, and I wasn't sure if you were involved with WaW or not. I might just join up; but if I do I'll have to kick myself for not getting in on the first one. :damn:

Anyway, I'll check it out.

[iblitz]

IBLITZ!!! Good to see you here. I remember the Iblitz campaigns, and I wasn't sure if you were involved with WaW or not. I might just join up; but if I do I'll have to kick myself for not getting in on the first one. :damn:

Anyway, I'll check it out.

Many thanks :up: WaW is a reincarnation of iBlitz (or should I say better :) )... Von and I have been working on it a while and I have finally fine tuned it with this last campaign with help from other members. I still have some work to do before we start so you should have time.... stop by and check out the Campaign Office ---> http://wolvesatwar.org/vo/index.htm any time.. should be a blast


BdU
WaW

[kiwi_2005]

I read post 1 and thinking now should i go back. Its very tempting, i was Hans Rahmlow, U422 1st flottila, lost at see June/July 1943. 2weeks may seem long but cause i have alot of other things going on i found at times two wks i was stretching it.

WAW is the best way to play single player campaign, when you leave port all other Uboats are doing the same, it gives that comrademanship you dont see in the alone campaign. And not to mention BDU/FDU actually correspond with you, its no "Keep up the good work" rubbish. Highly recommended!

:up:

[iblitz]

Thanks, we have a good group. Von and Heinz help with BdU operations and they are excellent.... all the Flottille Kommandants are top notch and keep WaW moving and the backbone WaW Front Uboot Kaleun are the heart of the whole thing..... hope they still like me when I put them back in a Type II :D

BdU
WaW

[Rose]

I enlisted just a few days ago in time for the last patrol which I have to complete next week during exam time :(. Also, I'm gonna miss the first couple months of WaW II cos of summer vacation... I wonder if im allowed to miss the patrols during June/July/August...

[GreyOctober]

I enlisted just a few days ago in time for the last patrol which I have to complete next week during exam time :(. Also, I'm gonna miss the first couple months of WaW II cos of summer vacation... I wonder if im allowed to miss the patrols during June/July/August...

6 ) If a Captain finds that they are not able to participate for a extended period of time, they are permitted to go on a inactive status at any time and are encouraged to contact either their Flotilla Commander or BdU so that the Uboat
can be assigned to Dry Dock.

2.7 ) When a Captain in a inactive status returns to go back on active status, they are encouraged to inform their Flotilla Commander and BdU of same. That Uboat will then been taken out of Dry Dock status and returned to active status.

I guess youre alright...

[Miss Behavin]

Everything Iblitz has been saying here is true. WaW is Wunderbar!

The Marlena Hessler story was derived from my KTB logs of actual happenings during play with WaW as well as the other boats involved.

Also, don't forget to visit the Flotilla pubs. We get some pretty good roleplaying going on in those too.

Had it not been for WaW, my SH3 would have been collecting dust months ago and I'd been back to my 1st Person Shooters. Now just about ALL I play is SH3, no time for anything else.

Couldn't imagine life without WaW and the friends I've made there.

Join Up Now!

Cheers!

[JohnnyBlaze]

Might be interested of joining in. Tho I havent played with 100% realism yet, but I think I might be ready to step up my game.

as I'm typing this I realize this is my first post on this board.
Of course I've been observing here for a while now, but after I saw this topic I had to break my radio silence.

aww how rude of me not to introduce myself :oops:

the name is Johnny and Johnny is from Finland, the land of monsters :hulk:

so hello to everyone. Cant wait to get to know y'all.

now got to get back to work before I get detected by the bossman

[Der Teddy Bar]

WaW is the reason I continue to mod... These guys are worth all the pain sweat and tears :up:

[Heibges]

Thanks, we have a good group. Von and Heinz help with BdU operations and they are excellent.... all the Flottille Kommandants are top notch and keep WaW moving and the backbone WaW Front Uboot Kaleun are the heart of the whole thing..... hope they still like me when I put them back in a Type II :D

BdU
WaW

The Type II seperates the Rockstars from the Groupies!!! :-j

[Seminole]

This sounds most interesting. I will think it over.

Does anyone know off hand if one can have two SHIII installations on the same HD....you know...what with Starforce....or using SHIIICommander and all that?

I never had to think about it before but I'm wondering and thinking that just installing to a differently named pathway won't cut it with SHIII.

Maybe something in the FAQ section I'll look there.

[raymond6751]

I joined late and made one patrol in WaW, but found it vastly better than playing alone.

Having deadlines made it so real. No longer freely roaming around and firing any number of torpedoes at any target.

I was given a cross-Atlantic patrol and had to conserve fuel in order to get home. You can't just go 512x because you need to mix diesel and battery or emigrate to America permanently.

Sharing the experiences with others made it feel real.

They have done a great job of integrating historical facts into the campaign too. For instance, your upgrades might be on a train that gets bombed en route. So you don't get any!

There is also no pressure to complete a given number of patrols. The two week timeframe simply advances the war date. Of course, finishing a patrol on time gets your tonnage recorded.

I highly recommend Wolves at War!

[Heibges]

The best and most important part of Wolves at War is the great roleplaying that goes on. You really should have a fairly high committment to taking on the person of a German WWII uboat captain.

[Myxale]

The best and most important part of Wolves at War is the great roleplaying that goes on. You really should have a fairly high committment to taking on the person of a German WWII uboat captain.
Bloody right! :hmm:

[CCIP]

The registration is on, those interested should jump aboard starting now!

By the way, something from the WaW forum... so far for the next campaign, of the top 34 ace names, only 9 have been reserved. There's your chance :up:

[Ducimus]

Ok, serious question time:


1.) Can i pick my own boat number and type even if the captains name you adopt never sailed it? (In my mind i already have a captain id like to use because i like the imagery) or is a boat assigned to you?

2.) Uboat type's, what is the rule for availabilty? when that boat was first commissioned, or when it sailed on its first war patrol? Can you commission a new uboat as the war progresses?

3.) Can you join at any time, or does it have to be NOW?


4.) Is the following Mod collection allowed?

- Improved airpower that came with HT1.47
- NYGM's damage mod
- Unified campagin vanilla with the changes to the RND/SCR/LND layers outlined in this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=93647


5.) Are they're any additional mod requirements?
(i want to make sure im not reading outdated material on the WaW's website. To be honest though, im not much intrested in further modding my game, as i have it how i like it - which is why i do most of my own modding :rotfl: .)

[Umfuld]

I'm kinda sorta interested in this. I thought it was on-line as well. See, I'm retired with no family. So, yeah, I'm interested. Looking at the site and it's pretty confusing, but I'll figure it out I guess.
Gosh, being tested to see if you're good enough. That's cool.

Can you use WO assistance? I can go 100% realism with everything else, but I need that.

[FUBAR295]

Can you use WO assistance? I can go 100% realism with everything else, but I need that.

You can use either manual TDC or use the WO. Your choice.

Good Hunting,
FUBAR
aka Von

[Umfuld]

Can I get a link to the forum that's mentioned?

[FUBAR295]

Can I get a link to the forum that's mentioned?

Unfortunately, it is a closed forum availabel to members only, though you can preview selected forums that BdU has made available.

Good Hunting,
FUBAR
aka Von

[Ducimus]

I only wish there was more specific, up to date info posted on the website so i woudlnt have to ask dumb questions like the idiot that i am :88)

[Umfuld]

I feel like Snoopy. "No Dogs Allowed" :p

[Cpt.Thorne]

The mods that make the Vanilla game more "realistic" are allowed I for one use only NYGM products and can say that 2.0 has proven to be exellent choise for this. I suggest anyone interested go ahead and brovse around the 2.Flottile forum. http://radioroom.wolvesatwar.org/viewforum.php?f=5 There you can get the feel of WaW flottilles in action and how flottilles are run if you look at the operational orders etc.

The first war patrol has not even started yet but lots of activity going on. Joined WaWI in Dec1941 Ended up "working" multiple jobs and survived the war with my other Kaleun. Highly recommend WaW, if you are to stay and fight the War:
Prost!

[Cpt.Thorne]

Just announced at WaWII nightclub by BdU. NYGM TW 2.0 is mandatory

[Seminole]

I only wish there was more specific, up to date info posted on the website so i woudlnt have to ask dumb questions like the idiot that i am :88)


I was going to join in ....sounds great...then I ran into what you just mentioned. :hmm:


Maybe next go-round.

[Rose]

Next go-around will be in a year. Join up now! You can join any time during the actual campaign.

[Ducimus]

Just announced at WaWII nightclub by BdU. NYGM TW 2.0 is mandatory


I simply can't throw away a years worth (if not more) of modding. It would turn all the time ive spent tweaking and tuning SH3 to be a waste. Can't do it, won't do it. Oh well, i don't like early war anyway.

[iblitz]

You should use a dual install of SH3.... one for WaW and one for yourself......

[Rose]

Whoa sounds cool, how do you do that?

[iblitz]

Whoa sounds cool, how do you do that?

Just do a clean install... update and do a right click copy on your SH3 folder and paste.... now you can have 2 versions of the game.......