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VonHelsching
05-18-06, 05:36 PM
Something for the shipbuilders to drool on. A piece of history for both WWI and WWII.

On Saturday I went with my son and a friend to the Greek Naval Museum to see the HMS Averof (or Averoff) and I took some pics. Just wanted to share them with fellow Kaleuns.

Cover of the museum leaflet

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Technical Specs

Shipyard: Fratelli Orlando 8c c, Livorno 1911
Length:140 m.
Width (max): 21m.
10.200 tn.

Speed: 23 kn.
Radius: 2480 nm

Engines:
Two twon four stroke 19.000 HP
Two propellas
22 [not sure about translation here] hydraulic boilers, Beauville type

Guns
2 twin towers Armstrong 234 mm
4 twin towers Armstrong 190 mm

The following have been removed
8 76 mm guns
4 AA 76 mm
6 AA 37 mm
3 torpedo tubes

Crew
During peace: 670
During war: 1200


The model of the Averof, inside the ship

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2891/averofmodel2kh.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=averofmodel2kh.jpg)


Best view from the pier

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/770/hsmaverof4dq.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hsmaverof4dq.jpg)

Bow section, looking the captain's bridge

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7118/averofbow9qb.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=averofbow9qb.jpg)


Aft Section

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9058/averofaftsection4cg.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=averofaftsection4cg.jpg)

Port Gun and Ship chapel

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1279/sidegunandshipchapel7xm.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidegunandshipchapel7xm.jpg)


Officers dining room

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Some history from the Wikipedia:

At the beginning of the 20th century, Greece decided to reinforce its fleet, whose ships were fast becoming obsolete due to the fast-moving naval arms race of the era. The authorities procured four destroyers (then a relatively new type of ship), but the most important addition was Averof. The vessel was being built at Orlando Shipyards, at Livorno in Italy when the Italian government cancelled the project due to budgetary concerns. The Greek government immediately stepped in and acquired the ship with a 1/3 down payment, paid with the help of a wealthy Greek benefactor, George Averoff, whose name it received.

The ship was launched on March 12, 1910 and sailed in Faliron, near Athens, on September 1, 1911. Averof was at the time the most modern and powerful ship in the navies of either the Balkan League or the Ottoman Empire. As such, with the outbreak of the First Balkan War she took part, as the flagship of the Hellenic Royal Navy under the command of Rear Admiral Pavlos Kountouriotis, in the liberation of the islands of the northern and eastern Aegean. During the naval battles at Elli (December 3, 1912) and Lemnos (January 5, 1913) against the Ottoman Navy, she almost single-handedly secured victory and the undisputed control of the Aegean Sea for Greece. In both battles, due to her superior speed and armour, she left the battle line and pursued alone the Turkish Fleet. During the Battle of Elli, Kountouriotis, frustrated by the slow speed of the three older Greek battleships, hoisted the Flag Signal for the letter Z which stood for "Independent Action", and sailed forward alone, with a speed of 20 knots against the Turkish fleet. Averof succeeded in crossing the Turkish fleet's "T" and concentrated her fire against the Ottoman flagship, thus forcing the Ottoman fleet to retreat in disorder. Likewise, during the Battle of Lemnos, when the older battleships failed to follow up with Averof, Kountouriotis did not hesitate to pursue independent action. During both battles, the ship suffered only slight damage, while inflicting severe damage to several Turkish ships. These exploits propelled the ship and her Admiral to legendary status in Greece. After Lemnos, the crew of the Averof affectionately nicknamed her "Lucky Uncle George", while the Turks nicknamed her the "devil ship".

After World War I, Averof sailed with other Allied ships to Constantinople, receiving an ecstatic welcome from the city's Greeks. She continued as the flagship of the RHN, participating in landings in Eastern Thrace and bombardments of the Turkish Black Sea shore during the Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922) and helped in the evacuation of the refugees after the Greek Army's catastrophic defeat. In the 1920s she underwent a major reconstruction, in which received modern anti-aircraft armament, a new foremast, improved fire control equipment, while the obsolete torpedo tubes were removed.

After Germany's attack against Greece in 1941 and the collapse of the front, the ship's crew disobeyed the orders to scuttle the ship to avoid capture by the Germans, and sailed to Alexandria, under the constant threat of German air strikes (which had sunk HMS Kelly, the ship commanded by Lord Louis Mountbatten, and many other Greek and British warships during the evacuation of Greece). The Commanding Officer embarked from a rope ladder when the ship was already underway. During the next few years it was assigned to convoy escort and patrol duties in the Indian Ocean, based at Bombay and Port Said. On October 17, 1944, once again as the flagship of the exiled Hellenic Navy, she carried the Greek government-in-exile back to liberated Athens. The ship was decommissioned in 1952 and anchored at Poros from 1956 to 1983.

In 1984, the Navy decided to restore her as a museum, and in the same year the ship was towed to Faliron, where it is anchored up to this day as a museum, promoting the historical consolidation and upkeeping of the Greek Navy's heritage. The ship is regarded as in active service, carrying the Rear Admiral's Rank Flag a square blue flag with white cross, like the Greek jack, with two white stars in each of the two squares on the flagstaff side (see [1] and [2]) on the top of the mainmast with the Masthead Pennant (a long triangular blue flag with a white orthogonal Greek cross) displaced downward. Every Hellenic Navy ship entering or sailing in Faliron Bay honours the Averof while passing. The crew are ordered to attention (with the "Still to" order) and from the relevant Boatswain's pipe (or bugle call) every man on decks stands to attention, officers saluting, looking to the side where the Averof is in sight until "Continue" is ordered.

Other naval museum exibits

The "Velos" -Fletcher class- exUSS Charrette (DD-581)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/805/velosfletcherclass1cq.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=velosfletcherclass1cq.jpg)

This ship is the symbol for the democratic tradition of the Greek Navy. It defied the Greek militaly govenment (junta) and left the fleet during a NATO excercise, to ask for refuge in Italy (1973). An uncle of mine was the XO.

Trireme (ramming point)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8958/trireme5wb.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trireme5wb.jpg)

Wulfmann
05-18-06, 06:42 PM
Thanks for sharing. I did not know the times I spent in Greece Averoff had been preserved or would have made a visit.
It is unfortunate that most of the ships of pre WWII era are gone.
The few left besides Lucky George, USS Olympia (Dewey's Flagship at Manila) The dreadnaught battleship USS Texas, the pre-dreadnaught Mikasa in Japan (flagship at Tsushima) and the Russian cruiser Aurora (fired shots to begin Bolshevik revolution) are all that are left from the height of the gunship era.
Sad.
HMS Warspite deserved to be preserved more than any Brit ship.
Thankfully the Greeks saved Averoff and as time marches on that will continue to grow in importance.
Exactly where is the cruiser (originally classed as a second class battleship when built). Is there a tour specifically from Athens for tourist?
My daughter Aurora was just in Greece, her first trip outside the western hemisphere and I never mentioned the cruiser her being a tree hugger and all (although no liberal)
Thanks again for posting the pictures. I am sending some to family tonight

Wulfmann

VonHelsching
05-18-06, 11:23 PM
Exactly where is the cruiser (originally classed as a second class battleship when built). Is there a tour specifically from Athens for tourist?


Uncle George is in Faliron Naval Museum between the area of Palaion Faliron and Faliron Olympic Complex (Tae Kwon Do and Beach Volley stadiums). 5 minutes from a tram (light rail) station.

I don't know about tours. Inside the ship there were seats and a big plasma screen, so I guess when you go there with a group some kind of presentation is organised. I didn't see any guide around though (we went a little bit late 30 minutes before they closed the gates).

If you like exploring you'll have the chance of going even deep down 4 levels to the engines / boilers (we did that). Man if this ship was hit badly, there was no chance whatsoever that the engineers / technicians to get out. Very tight and steep stairs.

If you are interested, I can post the full resolution photos plus some others I havn't posted in rapidshare.

Best,

VonHelsching

Wulfmann
05-19-06, 02:32 PM
I have visited many ships and even the later ones would be a nightmare to evacuate in time of peril.
In 1993 I went on the USS Texas and being a travel writer got them to open many places not viewed in decades. We climbed the latter down to the bottom of the empty 14inch gun magazines, eerie!. I even got to sit in the captain’s chair (Bridge is locked because the only person to die was on the bridge when a 240MM shell hit at Normandy)
My friend was an naval architect and I encouraged him to volunteer and he became their top guide and now many of those areas have been opened to the public for special tours with signed releases (dangerous, a bit)
My Uncle George was the only Greek on the USS Missouri in WWII and he met my aunt Georgia on the tour to show off the surrender plaque when some Greek girls asked if there was a Greek on board. They went for coffee and were married for over 50 years before they passed away.
It is with some irony that the USS Missouri sits in Pearl Harbor close to where my father was on Dec 7 1941. Well, I find it ironic.
I was at a Navy day event in 93 in New York at the USS Intrepid Museum (Big Russian DD was there) When I mentioned my father was at Pearl and my Uncle served on the Mighty Mo nearly every officer stopped talking turned around and wanted to know everything I could remember.
I remember my father yapping when I was a kid and we ignored him. Now I wish he were alive so I could do a every minute he could remember tape recording.
In that it is easy to see how each day going by makes ships like Averoff a bigger treasure.

Wulfmann

GlowwormGuy
07-14-06, 04:54 AM
I've actually sort of got her in my machine, modded from a British County. It's not the best mod but it sort of looks the part. Yes she's a beaut!

Mountbatten

Spaxspore
07-14-06, 09:41 AM
Great Read, Thankx!

Jimbuna
10-16-06, 04:14 AM
Great photos and a really interesting read....thanks for sharing :up:

chrysanthos
05-02-11, 12:02 PM
yeah...we have 1 good ship

Jimbuna
05-02-11, 01:07 PM
She's nearly five years older now :DL

Osmium Steele
05-02-11, 02:26 PM
Reading Wulfmann's story about his father and uncle reminded me of a "moment" with my father.

It is 1990, out of Norfolk, Virginia and we're on a dependent's cruise; friends and family can come aboard, sail with the ship to the dive point, do some angles and dangles and show off a bit, emergency surface, then back to port. My parents are aboard.

On the return trip the no.1 scope (attack scope) was raised for the vistors' use. My father turns to me saying, "Is that a battleship?"

Sure enough, just emerging from the haze, dead ahead, 90 port AOB is the New Jersey. It was an awesome sight. Even the lookouts on the bridge hadn't spotted her yet.

A few minutes later, showing us her stern, she fades back into the haze. Not sure where she went since she wasn't at the pier when we went by.

It could only have been the New Jersey since the Iowa was still in drydock after the magazine explosion.

Unless, of course, she was a ghost...

Jimbuna
05-02-11, 02:40 PM
That must have been some sight and one hell of a great experience.

VONHARRIS
05-06-11, 02:22 PM
A nice post here VonHelsching
I have two corrections though

1. The title HMS Averof is wrong. HMS means a ship of the British Royal Navy.
The correct prefix is RHS Averof (for that time)
RHS : Royal Hellenic Ship (back at 1940)

2. The RHS Averof is an armored cruiser not a heavy cruiser