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Kapitan
05-17-06, 04:42 PM
Does anyone want to openly admit they carry a weapon?

I have done so in the past both 3 inch and 6 inch knives and also a CO2 pistol fully loaded 16 round repeater .177

I some times do carry a weapon my 6 inch knife being the one i choose the most to carry only for defence i dont carry the weapon often it depends on where i am going and what time im out till.

Normaly im unarmed, and wear steel toe boots which if i kick you hard enough can fracture your skull or break ribs.

I dont go out looking for a fight, if a fights going to happen it will come to me and then il defend myself.
I dont condone the use or carrying of a weapon however i live near a very rough estate and also have experance as i used to live on one of these gang land estates, and i do have a few problems behind me.

Weapons are good for defence but i dont support anyone carrying them because they want to attack.

What about you guys?

TLAM Strike
05-17-06, 04:51 PM
I once modified my watch like that assassin’s in ‘From Russia with Love’ (the watch with the thin wire to choke people with). Came in useful once in school when someone was beating on a friend of mine. :cool:

http://209.85.12.231/2120/97/emo/james_bond_007.gif
The name is Strike... TLAM Strike... :|\

Konovalov
05-17-06, 04:58 PM
I don't carry any weapons in public nor do I own any.

Ducimus
05-17-06, 05:15 PM
I used to in high school, primarly for self defense. We had alot of gangs, a few drive by's shootings, i had someone sort of "mug" me once and held a knife to my throat. So i took to caring a 6 inch folding buck knife. It was nice and flat, and carried it inside my jean jacket i used to wear at the time. I really felt i had no other choice.

In the service i used to carry a survival knife on my LC gear, and also kept a gerber made knife that much resembled a british fairbane dagger on my person. It was about 8 inchs long, double bladed, solid metal from tip to pumbel, galvanized black. Was a good solid pig sticker. I wore that inverted on my BDU pants belt, underneath my BDU "blouse". The top of the case would be just below my armpit. The tip of the handle would be concealed by my shirt. I could produce this knife with one swift downward motion. I kept that with me when i went to some not so kind places we werent welcome. Again, self defense, although i took a little ribbing from my brothers. Anyone who strapped a knife immediatly got the "rambo" comments. Other then that my primary duty weapon was an M16a2.

As a civlilian, the only gun i own is a shotgun for bird hunting. I dont carry anything on me anymore. Unless you want to count "the car club". Ive always figured i'd use that for a noggen bopper if need be. The knives i kept with me in the srvice, are now in the bottom of a box, shoved way in the back of a closet. I don't care to see them anymore, and don't like being reminded of why i felt the need to have them.

GreyOctober
05-17-06, 05:50 PM
Bout the same story. I used to carry a 2 and half inch folding knife back in high school because of street gangs. Now i have a baseball bat in my car (to tenderize any abnoxious bastard who thinks he can "road rage" at me :|\ ) and a tear-gas spray, which btw i think its been long expired :) Ive never gotten into a fight though i punched a dude back in school. Ive been threatned with a knive once though but managed to escape.

scandium
05-17-06, 05:52 PM
Why would I carry a weapon? Up until a few years the police in the city I live in (population 180,000) didn't even carry sidearms. Why would I?

Polak
05-17-06, 06:00 PM
Ay, I carry tear-gas spray and sometimes a knife, have to watch out for all the young arab-gangs here in Sweden, they are always armed.




Now i have a baseball bat in my car (to tenderize any abnoxious bastard who thinks he can "road rage" at me

That's the beauty of Eastern Europe :yep:, most of my mates back in Poland have baseball bats, golfclubs or metal-pipes in their cars.
I've got a nice metal-pipe back in Poland too. :D

jumpy
05-17-06, 06:02 PM
I have carried a swiss army knife everywhere in my trouser pocket since I was about 10 years old.
It's not a weapon, it's a tool; and a very useful one at that.
Besides, discretion is the better part of valour.

GreyOctober
05-17-06, 06:12 PM
Oh darn..i forgot to mention that i used to collect pocket knives when i was a kid. :roll:

AThat's the beauty of Eastern Europe :yep:, most of my mates back in Poland have baseball bats, golfclubs or metal-pipes in their cars.
I've got a nice metal-pipe back in Poland too. :D

Yep, same here mate. Cars made for eastern europe should have those things included ..or even better a monkey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAJF0xU2hkc) :rotfl: :rotfl:

Polak
05-17-06, 06:24 PM
Oh darn..i forgot to mention that i used to collect pocket knives when i was a kid. :roll:

AThat's the beauty of Eastern Europe :yep:, most of my mates back in Poland have baseball bats, golfclubs or metal-pipes in their cars.
I've got a nice metal-pipe back in Poland too. :D

Yep, same here mate. Cars made for eastern europe should have those things included ..or even better a monkey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAJF0xU2hkc) :rotfl: :rotfl:

Oooo, I want one of those, would save me a lot of problems. :D

DeepSix
05-17-06, 06:30 PM
Concealed Carry Permit. Mainly for use in the car.

Onkel Neal
05-17-06, 06:48 PM
Not me, I'm a lover, not a fighter. Plus I can run like the wind :sunny:

Bill Nichols
05-17-06, 06:59 PM
I carry my wit about me 24-7. :yep:

Happy Times
05-17-06, 07:08 PM
I often carry a Leathrman tool.I have allways a piece of electric cable under my car seat, and a baseball bat on the back. Its just a habbit i learned from my grandfather. :lol: Both can be explained if asked by the police. ;) Sometimes i have forgotten my shotgun on the back also, just have to be carefull were i leave my car when i forgot it there... ;) Thats also legal. At one time when i got threated by these criminals that i beat up, (they said they would kill me and burn my house) i had 9mm Glock also under my seat.

GreyOctober
05-17-06, 07:20 PM
Didnt i read somewhere that Finland has the lowest criminalitty rate in the world? :o You dont fit in the statistics HT :-?

Happy Times
05-17-06, 07:47 PM
Didnt i read somewhere that Finland has the lowest criminalitty rate in the world? :o You dont fit in the statistics HT :-? Crime is pretty slow but Finland still has very heavy rate of violent crime compared to its size. The resession in the mid ninetys caused a lot of substance abuse and mental problems that effect still these figures. Pretty brutal things happen, just little time ago in the next town,two narcomans attacked the first person that came along. They forced him in to a car and took him on the woods were they beat him with iron pipes. He has severe head trauma and is still in hospital unconcious. The fackers couldnt give any reason for their act, both were on a suspended sentence for prior violent, drug and robbery crimes. The number of law enforcement in Finland is one of the lowest in the world. Many crimes remain unsolved because of this lack of resources. I live in an area, that could have a worst case response time of 30-45min, by the police. I just am not going to become a victim to any lowlife roaming for new pray.

The Noob
05-17-06, 07:51 PM
I don't carry any weapons in public nor do I own any.

Same over here! :up:

I'm living in germany, pretty much safe there.

Not me, I'm a lover, not a fighter. Plus I can run like the wind :sunny:

I run faster! Running away was always my strong point years back in da Shool. :gulp:

TLAM Strike
05-17-06, 08:02 PM
Not me, I'm a lover, not a fighter. Plus I can run like the wind :sunny: Oh so Texans prefer to run than fight. This information will be useful! Bawhahahahahaha! :D

I'm living in germany, pretty much safe there. Yea there never any violence in Germany... unless they start it... :P

Happy Times
05-17-06, 08:10 PM
Not me, I'm a lover, not a fighter. Plus I can run like the wind :sunny: Oh so Texans prefer to run than fight. This information will be useful! Bawhahahahahaha! :D

That had to be ment as a joke by Neal, atleast i took it as one. :roll: http://www.click2houston.com/news/8693429/detail.html

bradclark1
05-17-06, 08:22 PM
I carry a 2 1/2" lockblade in my pocket. Can't imagine not having a pocket knife, they are so useful.
I have a 6" lockblade in our minivan.

Ishmael
05-17-06, 09:38 PM
I keep my AK-47 in the truck if I'm going to a site where I've seen bear sign. Especially now that they're coming out of hibernation and a bit peckish. The 2 main sites I have it for are San Antonio Mtn. west of Taos, where I have big dents on the roofline of the shelter from Griz, and Boy Scout, near Capitan, where I have to hike in about 2 miles & up about 1500 feet from 7k to 8500 ft. Such is the life of a modern-day mountain man.

tycho102
05-17-06, 09:42 PM
Does anyone want to openly admit they carry a weapon?


My state issues permits, and yes, I have one. I certainly don't broadcast the fact when I'm carrying said weapon.

If I wasn't "law abiding", then I wouldn't have the permit. So by this Orwellian logic, I am the least likely of your problems -- I wouldn't have the permit if I wasn't law abiding and looking to stuff you in the hurt locker. In reality, I wish 99% of the population was required to exercise a permit. It would be rough the first year or two, but after that, things would quiet down and the violent crime rate would all but disappear (meaning the nut-jobs would all be dead at that point).

Onkel Neal
05-18-06, 12:44 AM
Not me, I'm a lover, not a fighter. Plus I can run like the wind :sunny: Oh so Texans prefer to run than fight. This information will be useful! Bawhahahahahaha! :D

That had to be ment as a joke by Neal, atleast i took it as one. :roll: http://www.click2houston.com/news/8693429/detail.html

Hey! Thats me :yep: I would have gotten the second guy but he was really running fast

STEED
05-18-06, 05:29 AM
MY penknife from time to time.

Oberon
05-18-06, 06:12 AM
Very rarely, because any weapon you carry can be taken off you and turned against you. Though I have been known to carry a blunt bit of wood with some nails in....real sophisticated I know ;)

Skybird
05-18-06, 06:13 AM
Weapons. Would I carry them? Are you kidding - a sword roughly 1 m in length? :lol:

Imagine this. I visit friends, they open the door and the lady of the house tells me: "Hi, nice to see you, come in and hang your coat behind the door, and the hat over there and - and the... thing, well, put it in the kitchen." :lol:

Or the master of the house grabbing the wrong grip when leaving , and later returning and asking his wife: "What kind of hightech umbrella have you bought? I tried to open it, but I miserably failed! And there I stood at the bus stop with my folded umbrella holding upwards and me getting wet. Really pointless, somehow. I looked like the damn statue of liberty."

Scenes that remind me of Monthy Python, almost.
:lol:

Oberon
05-18-06, 06:18 AM
Weapons. Would I carry them? Are you kidding - a sword roughly 1 m in length? :lol:

Imagine this. I visit friends, they open the door and the lady of the house tells me: "Hi, nice to see you, come in and hang your coat behind the door, and the hat over there and - and the... thing, well, put it in the kitchen." :lol:

Or the master of the house grabbing the wrong grip when leaving , and later returning and asking his wife: "What kind of hightech umbrella have you bought? I tried to open it, but I miserably failed! And there I stood at the bus stop with my folded umbrella holding upwards and me getting wet. Really pointless, somehow. I looked like the damn statue of liberty."

Scenes that remind me of Monthy Python, almost.
:lol:

Really, that second example reminded me of something else...

http://www.joodiff.com/images/stphilia/jsteed.jpg

Spoon 11th
05-18-06, 06:48 AM
Didnt i read somewhere that Finland has the lowest criminalitty rate in the world? :o You dont fit in the statistics HT :-?
Finland has the highest homicide rate in western Europe. According to NationMaster.com Finland is third in the world in total crime per capita, with 101.526 per 1,000 people.


source: wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_rate)

Kapitan
05-18-06, 07:01 AM
Isnt it Dubai that has the lowest crime rate ?

Skybird
05-18-06, 07:13 AM
Really, that second example reminded me of something else...

http://www.joodiff.com/images/stphilia/jsteed.jpg

I loved that series! (together with CI5 The Professionals)

The Hollywood remakes of both, from the last couple of years, had been a cheek (impudence?)

rogerbo
05-18-06, 07:54 AM
Some Years ago when i was working around the world i had a leathemann or one of the Big Swiss Army knifes http://www.victorinox-shop.de/product_info.php/language/en/info/p237_TravelerSet-Plus.html

And when the swiss Men are active in the Army (which is from the Age of 20 - 32 ) they have this one at home http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmgewehr_90

I too had this one

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmgewehr_57

and every Year we have the world bigest Shooting Event
Das Eidg Feldschiessen ist das grösste Schützenfest der Welt
link only in DE
http://www.fst-ssv.ch/Desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-24/

Bertgang
05-18-06, 11:10 AM
Like Jumpy, I am a fan of the swiss knife as tool; as weapon it's really poor, but usually it's countless times more useful.

I am authorized to carry weapons but, until now, I never saw a good reason to use this permision.

STEED
05-18-06, 12:16 PM
http://www.joodiff.com/images/stphilia/jsteed.jpg

Hey, hey it's me what a handsome chap I am. :D

Fish
05-18-06, 12:30 PM
Ay, I carry tear-gas spray and sometimes a knife, have to watch out for all the young arab-gangs here in Sweden, they are always armed.




Now i have a baseball bat in my car (to tenderize any abnoxious bastard who thinks he can "road rage" at me

That's the beauty of Eastern Europe :yep:, most of my mates back in Poland have baseball bats, golfclubs or metal-pipes in their cars.
I've got a nice metal-pipe back in Poland too. :D

I thought you Polaks used empty liquor botles? :stare:

Kapitan
05-18-06, 12:32 PM
Well you wouldnt want to waste good vodka!

Polak
05-18-06, 01:37 PM
Ay, I carry tear-gas spray and sometimes a knife, have to watch out for all the young arab-gangs here in Sweden, they are always armed.




Now i have a baseball bat in my car (to tenderize any abnoxious bastard who thinks he can "road rage" at me

That's the beauty of Eastern Europe :yep:, most of my mates back in Poland have baseball bats, golfclubs or metal-pipes in their cars.
I've got a nice metal-pipe back in Poland too. :D

I thought you Polaks used empty liquor botles? :stare:

Ahh no, empty liquor botles we use for fights on the local morning bus. :-j

Oberon
05-18-06, 02:10 PM
Ay, I carry tear-gas spray and sometimes a knife, have to watch out for all the young arab-gangs here in Sweden, they are always armed.




Now i have a baseball bat in my car (to tenderize any abnoxious bastard who thinks he can "road rage" at me

That's the beauty of Eastern Europe :yep:, most of my mates back in Poland have baseball bats, golfclubs or metal-pipes in their cars.
I've got a nice metal-pipe back in Poland too. :D

I thought you Polaks used empty liquor botles? :stare:

Ahh no, empty liquor botles we use for fights on the local morning bus. :D


Well....that's one way of solving overcrowding on public transport. :doh:

kiwi_2005
05-18-06, 02:55 PM
:rotfl:

OMG some of yous carry weapons!

Before i moved to live with human beings i lived for 11 yrs in the rugged bush, nearest neighbour was miles away, for income i use to trap posseums for there fur and sell them $12 a fur could sometimes rake up a kill of 50+ per day on a good day, average was about 30 per day, own a vicous american pit bull that was my weapon if anyone turned up and passed through the gate without letting me or Satan (dogs name) know, that person usually left the area with his groin badly mauled :lol: Never owned a gun, just my dog and a huge hunting knife plus the missus at the time could handle herself as well. :). Cooking was done on the coal range, had power yet the only modern thing we owned was a PC I was playing AOTD back then . Best yrs of my life, then i come back to civilization live in a town, and hate it. Im actually been thinking of move back to the bush and live like we all suppose to not as friggin townies. I can't handle this livestyle... to many ppl. Plus waking up to the sound of traffic drives me nuts. In the bush we use to wake up to the sound of the tui's singing. And for miles around all the eye could see was bush. Now its friggin houses. :nope:

I long for those caveman days :(

TteFAboB
05-18-06, 03:22 PM
You forgot to tell us how you repelled the Mauri raids, certainly you are ommiting some sort of secret weapon? One dog versus an entire tribe?

Tell us the truth, your little "hut" in the bush is a WW2-era Bunker created to stop a Japanese invasion, probably filled with Machine Guns, sandbags, barbed wire around the perimeter, and a persicope to direct mortar fire, which is usually carried out by your wife.

The true kiwi -> http://www.sportsonlyauction.com/Machine%20Gun%20Smiley.gif

kiwi_2005
05-18-06, 03:38 PM
Mauri? Or do you mean Maori? Mauri are islanders :)


The seaman and bushman are simular. The seaman feels at home when hes out at sea away from civilzation the bushman is at home when hes lost in the bush :smug:

Ducimus
05-18-06, 03:41 PM
The true kiwi -> http://www.sportsonlyauction.com/Machine%20Gun%20Smiley.gif

LOL

GreyOctober
05-18-06, 04:50 PM
OLOLOLOLOL!!! :rotfl:

turnerg
05-19-06, 05:40 AM
I cary many wonderful things on my bat-belt at work Beretta M9, 18% OC spray, extendable baton. all for guarding my post/protecting the marines in our barracks, and the neighbors that live aound us.

on a personal note, i dont usually cary a knife or anything as im not really skilled with one. however, when im done here, i'll be old enough to get a concealed firearm permit and will be getting an H&K USP .45. in Dallas, i never thought id need to carry one, but after living here in Washingtin DC, i feel seriously vulnerable when i dont have a pistol at least.

Iceman
05-20-06, 12:28 AM
This is the wild west..I carried a gun when I was single...now that I'm married with children I have no weapons in my home...but it is not the person here who's strapped that you can see his weapon, it is the one who has it hid to be concerned about. It is no big deal here in AZ. The crimes are by criminals lol.

Happy Times
05-20-06, 12:40 AM
Didnt i read somewhere that Finland has the lowest criminalitty rate in the world? :o You dont fit in the statistics HT :-? Crime is pretty slow but Finland still has very heavy rate of violent crime compared to its size. The resession in the mid ninetys caused a lot of substance abuse and mental problems that effect still these figures. Pretty brutal things happen, just little time ago in the next town,two narcomans attacked the first person that came along. They forced him in to a car and took him on the woods were they beat him with iron pipes. He has severe head trauma and is still in hospital unconcious. The fackers couldnt give any reason for their act, both were on a suspended sentence for prior violent, drug and robbery crimes. The number of law enforcement in Finland is one of the lowest in the world. Many crimes remain unsolved because of this lack of resources. I live in an area, that could have a worst case response time of 30-45min, by the police. I just am not going to become a victim to any lowlife roaming for new pray. The victim died. He was a 24 years old student walking home from a club, he was on the phone with his girlfrend when he was forced in a car with a shotgun. After they had left him beaten in the woods they tried to shoot some woman with the shotgun but missed :doh:

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense
05-20-06, 07:02 AM
i'm gonna 'run' with Neal and Bill on this one... never carried a weapon once i left the service (my job required i carry a concealed firearm), and don't plan to...

i've found, that in most cases, people who carry weapons are not really trained in their use, and if a trained person can get within arms reach of an armed person, he can easily disarm them before they can take their next breath, and the weapon that they though was gonna save em could suddenly become the instrument of their demise...

--Mike

Skybird
05-20-06, 08:10 AM
So true!

Type941
05-20-06, 08:21 AM
I only have a butchers knife about 10in long, which I carry with me everywhere I go. I like to keep it behind my back and it takes a long time to take out, plus I must be careful not to cut my clothes. But once it's out, it freaks the bejesus out of people. Yes, I'm kidding.

Takeda Shingen
05-20-06, 08:51 AM
I am a pacifist and an anti-materialist, and therefore do not carry a weapon. However, I am also a black belt of the second degree in Aikido, and do not require one.

I carry very little cash, and if a criminal holds me by gunpoint, he may have my wallet. I will simply go home and cancel my cards. If he wants something more, then he will have to face me for it.

Type941
05-20-06, 09:15 AM
I am a pacifist and a black belt in Aikido,

:) respect.

CCIP
05-20-06, 09:22 AM
I've been mugged a couple of times and learned my lesson (well, technically, I've only been mugged in company of careless people - I have too good a 'safety sense' myself, having grown up in rather dangerous neighbourhoods); in fact sometimes I'm glad that I'm never armed, or in certain situations I've been I could have acted more extremely than I should have.

I wish I had a blackbelt too, that'd solve all my problems :lol:

Wildcat
05-20-06, 11:19 AM
I carry two weapons at all times now after a number of violent confrontations at night over the past couple years. One is a japanese tool called a jutte, which is basically like a truncheon. Completely blunt and great for grappling with. Also very heavy. A solid whack would make most people rethink a physical confrontation, and getting their elbow hyperextended ought to take the fight out of em... That's the tool that I intend on using for the average thug that might try to cause me problems again (If I can't handle him barehanded). The other is a very long knife that has only one purpose, stabbing vital points to kill. Hope I'll never have to use that. But there are always people out there with guns or knives so, if it comes to that, well, better them than me as the saying goes.

Someone mentioned that carrying weapons can be dangerous unless trained in their use..I agree wholeheartedly. I would not carry a weapon if I was not trained in some kind of unarmed system as well as weapon retention. That's just asking for trouble. It's also important to be able to use your weapon if you need to, and not delay it for fear of the concequences. Up the ante only if you need to, but if you need to, do it properly, not in some half-assed way.

Sailor Steve
05-20-06, 12:37 PM
Yes.

Nippelspanner
05-20-06, 03:28 PM
wow, im shocked... im living really safe her down in good old germany... not many bad corners here (except schools in berlin :know: ).

but sometimes im asking myself whats wrong with this world? students who need to wear arms of all kinds to feel safe, shoot outs "here and there"...

i dont want to attack someone, but michael moore did a good job with "bowling for columbine"... the things about the US press... that they only show "bad things" happening, so that everyone thinks he lives in a world of **** (copyright@full metall jacket).

if you say "take a look outside,its true, isnt it?" yes it is... even beause of this uhm...(we call this "panikmache") creating panic.

now everyone thinks "uh, the world is bad, i need a gun or better two to protect myself, my family and my neighbors...

wow, very cool thinking but... too bad to shoot the own daughter who comes back deep at night and daddy didnt know she was away from home... intruder? *boom*!

oopsie it was "insertname"...

ok sorry, very sarcastic, but that fits perfect. its a rolling snowball, you know what i mean? nothing will and can be better with guns, guns and more guns... because guns kill people (yeah i know, NRA freaks say the opposite, but...c´mon!). here in germany its pretty difficult to get a gun. just if youre in law enforcement, a hunter, or for sports(isnt so easy like it sounds). but its law to keep the guns and ammunition in different safe´s and keep the key always at your side...

but anyway, even here sometimes a little boy find daddys gun and shoot his 7year old best friend...

WW3, you´re welcome... mh...hey, ya know the "suga girls"?
"push the button..." lalala...*sigh*

SUBMAN1
05-22-06, 02:55 PM
I have my Kimber .45, but don't really need to carry it concealed (which means most of the time, I am unarmed). I do carry it in the car once in a while, espeicially if I'm heading to the mountains and I have open carried it up in the mountains as well (No need for a permit for open carry up there). If I go shooting as well, I keep it open carried there too incase someone tries to do something stupid like steal my guns.

I have a permit, but I mainly wanted the permit to be able to transport it anywhere without restriction. Some of the restrictions imposed by this state (WA) only allow you to transport between, shooting range, work, and home, no in between. The permit allows you to remove that restriction and keep it with you if you wanted to go grab a bite to eat after the range for example without having to go home first.

Anyway, I have the option if I want. I'd only think about it if I were haeding to Seattle or Tacoma or something.

-S