SH3 ending?

[Yahoshua]

Hey ya'll.

I was in port when the war ended but....no cinematic or anything?

After all those hours I spent in front of my comp dodging DC, shoting down aircraft, and gleefully smiling at my first kill with a torpedo are rewrded with.....NOTHING????

Did the devs. really screw this one up or something? Cuz there has to be SOMETHING at the end.

[Dowly]

Germany lost the war, you lost. Losers dont get anything. Live with that. :)

The only point in SHIII for me is the Wolves at War virtual campaing.

www.wolvesatwar.com :up:

[STEED]

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9450/clipimage0026wi.jpg

[Yahoshua]

Ya know Dowly, ya don't have to be a complete (expletive) and rub it in like that.

Of course Germany lost the war. I wanted to know if there was a grand ending cinematic like the sub being scuttled or something. All I needed was a simple answer.

Thx for that post Steed. I was in port when the war ended so...I didn't get to see that.

[Enigma]

When I get that radio message, im giving the crew an option. Get off now, or come with your skipper. Where im taking this boat, I cant tell you. But they will never find us there. :know:

[zombiewolf]

Yeah where is the Were-wolves mod.
Those fanatics that refused to surrender

[tbarak]

Hey Yahoshua you should chill dude and maybe loose the hyper sensitivity. Dowly was stating the obvious and maybe you took it wrong, so no need to insult people.

[Dowly]

Ya know Dowly, ya don't have to be a complete (expletive) and rub it in like that.

Of course Germany lost the war. I wanted to know if there was a grand ending cinematic like the sub being scuttled or something. All I needed was a simple answer.

Thx for that post Steed. I was in port when the war ended so...I didn't get to see that.

Sorry, didnt meant it like that. I just dont think that games like this need a ending movie.

And it got my eye when you said "Did the devs. really screw this one up or something? Cuz there has to be SOMETHING at the end.". As I´m pretty pissed with the dev team to release 3/5 of the game they intended to. Deadlines suck.

Anyways, no hard feelings? Here, let me buy you a beer -> :()1:

[Threadfin]

I'm currently on my 18th career. Only one time have I survived until the end, and that was my 10th career. Here's a post I made on another forum after surviving the war last June. For the hell of it I loaded all slots with GNAT and Falke.

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We recieved no radio message at sea indicating an end to hostilities, so we continued to patrol until about the 28th of May. We were hanging north of Scapa near the battleship location from the previous patrol. Sunk a couple of destroyers and destroyer escorts with the acoustics. Also sunk a Norwegian fishing trawler as we were leaving Flensburg. Wanted to test the twin M42 and he was the unfortunate target. What a great gun. I opened fire from 3500 meters, and 50 seconds later he was sinking. Just little bursts as the pitching brought the crosshairs up and down. I couldn't even really tell if I was hitting him. Highly recommend this gun for AA defense and other general purpose duties

Finally, on the last day of the patrol we found another King George task force. Got into a great position and fired a 4-shot spread of GNAT and Falke. Unfotunately the one GNAT went after a DD, and as the depth was set to 9.5 meters that eel was lost. The 3 Falke locked onto the King George but their turn toward the engines made them miss altogether, and as they were going 20kts, and the task force 21 kts, they were never going to catch up. The irony is they would have all run under the BB if they weren't acoustics. In desperation I came back up to PD and raised the snorkel. Surely the TF would start to zig and the eels would hit. But no reaction. Dammit! Surface. That'll get their atention. We pop up expecting a barage and nothing! Guess they know the war is over. We sail alongside the task force until they pull ahead, a final salute and the war is over.

The only thing I noticed that could have been a sign the war was over aside from the Tommies not shooting at me, was the German ports turned green on the map, but I didn't notice the date. And soon after I was no longer being hounded by A/C.

Career 10 was an exciting one, here's the final tally. 151k warship tonnage

Patrols=20
TonnageSunk=894397.000000
MerchantTotalTonnage=742974.000000 (7900 tons per, fat SoBs)
WarshipsTotalTonnage=151423.000000 (9400 per, mmmm BB)
ShipsSunkNb=110
MerchantTotalShipsSunk=94
WarshipsTotalShipsSunk=16
PatrolCraftSunk=0
CorvetteSunk=0
FrigateSunk=0
DestroyerEscortSunk=3
DestroyerSunk=6
MineSweeperSunk=0
LightCruiserSunk=1
HeavyCruiserSunk=0
EscortCarrierSunk=4
AircraftCarrierSunk=0
BattleCruiserSunk=0
BattleShipSunk=2
MineLayingShipSunk=0
AuxiliaryCruiserSunk=0
PlanesDownNb=1

Including 4 liners which aren't listed as a type.

Our boat suffered no casualties during the course of the war. We had two patrols cut short by damage which forced a return to base, one of those patrols was a blank as we were hit soon after leaving port, the other after only one sinking. Both of those patrols were in the XXI. The battery/recharge thing needs fixing, as it virtually eliminates the XXI's submerged endurance and range advantages. The sonar and snorkel-top radar need fixing too.

The VIIC/42 is also a disapointment. I see no difference between it and a vanilla VIIC, aside from the two additional external torpedo slots. The range is the same as a VIIC, when it should be much higher, and the crush depth, which should be the real advantage to this boat, by at least 100 meters, is also the same as the VIIC.

[Salvadoreno]

I think the ending totally suites how the uboat kapitans felt. "is this it? All my years of toil, fear, bloodshed ends like this?" Ive never completed a full career, but i wanna survive from 1943-1945 and i bet that when that message comes in, ill feel a sense of relief, dissapointment, etc etc... No more depth charges, no more screaming aircraft, bla bla. Even though they could have made it totally great by giving you a choice to scuttle your boat, sail with a black flag, or run home. But my imagination lets me run wild

[deadactionman]

Just a thought here guys...

What could possibly make up for the hours and hours spent sitting at a computer pretending to be a sub captain? I love the game and thoroughly enjoy searching the seas for ships to sink, but to me, it's more like a simulator... and simulators don't have, or need an end sequence.

I guess everyone plays the game differently.

[Yahoshua]

Sry I blew up Dowly....I had just finished giving a tongue lashing to some kid on another forum and was still fuming from it, and I was wrong to take it out on you.

I'll take the beer (St. Pauli Girl?). :up:

I was just thinking that there could've been a short ending sequence of the U-boat getting the message that the war had ended and the captain informing the crew of the news but leaving their last decision up to the players' imagination or something. I didn't expect that nothing would happen.

I may be used to seeing an ending sequence for a game but at least it would give a little more closure for the ending.

[andy_311]

Come 9/05/45 a message will pop up the war has ended no build up,no nothing by right you should surface and surrender and return to base,
Did that last time never again 3 C class dds opened up on me,so I took them out and the entire convoy they where escorting surfaced to be attacked by 6 sunderland they destroyed both ny deisel engines.
Take heed the war ends on the 9th May 1945 all ships are still your enemy till 10/05/45 you can even surface and sail dead centre of a TF and they won't open fire at you. got some pics on my other pc to prove it when I find them will post them.

[slow_n_ez]

Well , I am dry docked I guess.... I just tried to leave Bergen on May 20th, 1945 after getting my boat ready and they told me the war had ended :( ..... That was my 3rd carrerr so I kinda knew what to expect.... first time I got the message during in game with the bit STEED posted ..... ... oh well .... Trroughtout all my journeys into places most folks don't get to go I found some killer fishing spots I am going to go check out :lol:

[The_Blockade_Runner]

After the war you could always do what these U Boats did :hmm: :hmm:



http://www.janetmcnaughton.ca/submarines.html

[Khayman]

After the war you could always do what these U Boats did :hmm: :hmm:



http://www.janetmcnaughton.ca/submarines.html

The BBC link on that page is pretty good. I like the animations showing exactly what escorts did during a Raspberry, Pineapple etc. Not sure about the game. It doesn't feel right destroying U-Boats, after all one of them might be me. :D

[Scorpius]

What could you do when the war ended?

On another idea, would you face charges if you fired and sunk any ships shortly after the war - if you didnt yet know the war had ended?

[Khayman]

A week after the capitulation order from Donitz, a message was transmitted over all U-Boat frequencies;

"Whoever does not capitulate now will be treated as a pirate and put on trial"

So I think you would face charges, and serious ones at that. I imagine ignorance would be no excuse.

[GreyOctober]

A week after the capitulation order from Donitz, a message was transmitted over all U-Boat frequencies;

"Whoever does not capitulate now will be treated as a pirate and put on trial"

So I think you would face charges, and serious ones at that. I imagine ignorance would be no excuse.

Sir, could you please point me to a resource from where you got this information?

Thank you.

[deadactionman]

Being a pirate could be fun... although it would present a problem when you tried to dock.

[Khayman]

Sir, could you please point me to a resource from where you got this information?

Thank you.

Sure thing :D

It's in the book "Hirschfeld: The Secret Diary of a U-Boat". He was on U-234 which was heading for Japan with a varied cargo of goodies for the Japanese when the capitulation order was received. However that same evening FdU North, Bergen, Captain Rosing sent a message "in the Japan Cipher" saying:

"U-234. Continue your voyage or return to Bergen. FdU"

The Commander, Johann Heinrich Fehler chose to continue the voyage. Two things later changed his mind. One was a Reuters report that said Japan had severed relations with Germany and German citizens in Japan were being arrested. The other was that message I quoted about piracy.

It's a good book, I'd highly recommend it.

[TheSamuraiJedi]

Wouldnt it be possible for someone to create movies based on how well you did?

Like 0-15,000 tons of patrol tonnage (total)-
Scuttled in the Atlantic, picked up by British DD

15,000-35,000 tons-

Surrendered to the Canadians-put in POW camp

35,000-45,000

etc etc

And then script it as an ending movie?

[glimmerman]

My war ended on april 9th. what gives?
I thought it was supposed to end in May.

[CptGrayWolf]

A week after the capitulation order from Donitz, a message was transmitted over all U-Boat frequencies;

"Whoever does not capitulate now will be treated as a pirate and put on trial"

Niiice...this was sent by the allies I assume?

[Enigma]

U-858 had sunk 16 allied ships during its 30 months at sea during the war. Then she surrendered to the allies 1 hour from my home...She was the first enemy sub to surrender unconditionally to the U.S. Navy after the end of hostilities between Allied Nations and Germany during World War II.

http://www2.newszap.com/lookingback/ww2/capturedsub.html

[Khayman]

Niiice...this was sent by the allies I assume?

The books says "There was no signature, but the manner of keying indicated a British operator".

The Commander incidentally was closer to Canada but chose to surrender to the US, believing they would be treated better there. He bitterly regretted it for the rest of his life due to the ill-treatment they received in US hands (not I hasten to add by anyone in the US Navy, but by the Army and people ashore).

It doesn't come as much of a surprise, ill treatment and the piracy order. After years of demonising the U-Boat force it would be hard to be objective.

[CptGrayWolf]

Niiice...this was sent by the allies I assume?

The books says "There was no signature, but the manner of keying indicated a British operator".

The Commander incidentally was closer to Canada but chose to surrender to the US, believing they would be treated better there. He bitterly regretted it for the rest of his life due to the ill-treatment they received in US hands (not I hasten to add by anyone in the US Navy, but by the Army and people ashore).

It doesn't come as much of a surprise, ill treatment and the piracy order. After years of demonising the U-Boat force it would be hard to be objective.

Interesting!

[Niemöller]

I was on the way from Bergen to my patrol area when I got the sad news from Uncle Karl that the war had ended (around May 9, 1945). I decided to continue sailing to see what the game would let me get away with. I wanted to see whether I would be "gently persuaded" by allied ships or even by BdU vessels to sail to a base nearby and surrender. I thought there might be even be some closing summary or animated sequence in store.
It turned out to be a SHOOTING GALLERY and I had the popgun.
I found out quickly that I could surface without fear of being attacked by anyone. I still was able to launch torps and use the deck gun. I toured Scapa Flow surfaced in beautiful weather and got to see the shore installations and the port. I smelled the salt air while sailing around Loch Ewe at night and saw a docked tanker, torpedo boats, and DDs. Various classes of destroyers and trawlers would sail right up to me with their tails wagging and I could aim at and blast them at will. I found out how many shots from a deck gun it would take to sink a J-Class Destroyer (too many). I ran out of ammunition and tried to sail to Bergen, but it was no longer there so I exited the game.
Warships refused to fire back, call in air support, or conduct any kind of ASW. They did, however, try sailing away after being attacked; but that was it. Merchants acted the exact same way: no deck guns firing at me but some evasive maneuvering. I guess the Allies were excited about their V-E day. After I sent a post-war status report to BdU telling them where I was and what I had sunk, I got back, "Keep up the Good Work!"
Just expanding on Andy 311's experience.
I'm a newb running plain vanilla stock SHIII. My realism level is low. But the "arcade" style of play was a nice change from the paranoid maneuvering of the war's final months.

[Khayman]

After I sent a post-war status report to BdU telling them where I was and what I had sunk, I got back, "Keep up the Good Work!"


So that's why Donitz got 10 years at Nuremberg. He was secretly encouraging his U-Boats to keep sinking allied shipping even after he "officially" ordered them to surrender:p

[Sailor Steve]

My war ended on april 9th. what gives?
I thought it was supposed to end in May.
Did you finish a patrol on April 9? Maybe you were still in port replenishing when the war ended.

[andy_311]

Being a pirate could be fun... although it would present a problem when you tried to dock.

It actually does'nt may 9th you get a message "war is over and return to base surrender or whatever you surface your boat and see what happens you will still be blasted to kingdom come. As for the u-boat (you) war ends on May 10th Germany Becomes "Neutral" take a look on the map and yeah you can go blasting away with all the fish you got and deck gun shells you have it does not matter when you dock that's it you just get your career log and that's it no promotions no renown no nothing. I know I have been there 5 times.