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robj250
05-12-06, 10:05 AM
I presently have a VIIB, good compliment of varied staff qualifications and have done 31 patrols out of St. Nazaire. If I were to transfer, where would I go to next and what would my patrol areas be like. I have had a lot of fun working out of St. Nazaire and patrolling the North Atlantic.
Would I retain the VIIB or would the transfer upgrade my sub?

Heibges
05-12-06, 10:09 AM
I believe you have the choice where you want to transfer?

What year of the war you are in, will tell you where is a fun place to patrol I think?

You could transfer to Bergen and fight convoys bound for Russia.

JScones
05-12-06, 10:13 AM
I find Bergen quite boring - I started a career there (Jan 1943) and didn't see a thing for three patrols...until a blasted task force saw me and put an end to my career. Fortuitous in a way as I started a new career back in 7th Flotilla. Ships galore!

Threadfin
05-12-06, 10:22 AM
You'll keep your boat, though a different Flotilla might have different types to choose from, but you'd have to upgrade, it won't happen automatically. Where your patrols would be would depend on which Flotilla you choose and what boat type you're commanding.

St Nazaire is nice because it's the easiest in and out of.

robj250
05-12-06, 12:02 PM
You'll keep your boat, though a different Flotilla might have different types to choose from, but you'd have to upgrade, it won't happen automatically. Where your patrols would be would depend on which Flotilla you choose and what boat type you're commanding.

St Nazaire is nice because it's the easiest in and out of.

I am still in June, 1941 (using the basic SH3 with 35 mods and an upgraded VIIB as much as I could) U-51 has served me well, although I wish I could get a good bow shot someday. In what year can I upgrade to a different sub?

its a viic
05-12-06, 12:09 PM
all that info is in the sh3 community wiki.

Good hunting!

Fab
05-12-06, 12:18 PM
It's June '41 and you've made 31 patrols in a VIIB? Assuming you began on Sept. 1 ,'39 your average patrol and refit was only 21 days?

Each patrol in a VII (in my experience) is several weeks. I think 8 weeks is an average patrol for a VII, isn't it? And assuming a few weeks down after you get back, by June '41 you should only have at most 8 or 9 patrols.

What are you doing to get 31 patrols in less than two years? Heck, you'd be lucky to get that many patrols in a type II during that amount of time (typical patrol is 2 weeks at sea).

robj250
05-12-06, 01:38 PM
It's June '41 and you've made 31 patrols in a VIIB? Assuming you began on Sept. 1 ,'39 your average patrol and refit was only 21 days?

Each patrol in a VII (in my experience) is several weeks. I think 8 weeks is an average patrol for a VII, isn't it? And assuming a few weeks down after you get back, by June '41 you should only have at most 8 or 9 patrols.

What are you doing to get 31 patrols in less than two years? Heck, you'd be lucky to get that many patrols in a type II during that amount of time (typical patrol is 2 weeks at sea).

Sorry, I have no idea what you mean. I started out where everyone starts, from Wilsenhaven (spelling) with a IIA and then transfer to St. Nazaire after my sixth patrol and got a VIIB which I upgraded a bit at the end of each patrol. I just play'em as they come and I play every day because my incurable diseases keep me at home.

Fab
05-12-06, 01:53 PM
I just meant that you said you had done 31 patrols by June 1941. It just seemed like an awful lot of patrols since patrols take probably 6 weeks (2 at sea, 4 on shore) in a type II and probably 12 weeks in a type VII (8 at sea, 4 on shore). That works out to a lot less than 31 patrols in that time frame. I was just wondering what you were doing to get that many patrols in that short of a time period.

It doesn't have anything to do with your topic, I was just curious.

robj250
05-12-06, 02:00 PM
I just meant that you said you had done 31 patrols by June 1941. It just seemed like an awful lot of patrols since patrols take probably 6 weeks (2 at sea, 4 on shore) in a type II and probably 12 weeks in a type VII (8 at sea, 4 on shore). That works out to a lot less than 31 patrols in that time frame. I was just wondering what you were doing to get that many patrols in that short of a time period.

It doesn't have anything to do with your topic, I was just curious.

No problem. Sorry, I meant 31 patrols up to and including June, 1941. I expect my next patrol will be July, 1941.

robj250
05-12-06, 02:14 PM
I only wondered when I can get a sub that has more then 1 stern tube

Threadfin
05-12-06, 02:25 PM
2nd Flotilla, Lorient.

Ducimus
05-12-06, 02:34 PM
What flotilla you go to mainly depends on what type of uboat you want to operate.

If you want to stay in type VII uboats, then your choices are:

- 1st flotilla - they operate, um.. all over the atlantic i think. I remember doing patrols out of there near the atlantic side gibralter .

- 7th flotilla - not sure whey they typically send you.

- 11th flotilla - I think they operate primarly in the north atlantic.

-29 flotilla, In the mediterianian. Say goodbye to the atlantic. Your in your own world in this body of water :lol:

of those flotillas its good bet that whereever they send you, it will be within range of a type 7 boat.


If you want to move to type IV uboats, then:

- 2nd flotilla, early war operates primarly on the mid atlantic or north africa, later you'll be on the US eastern seaboard, caribean, and south africa near freetown.

- 10th flotilla, pretty much same as the 2nd.

- 12 flotilla, This is a unique flotilla as theres long range uboats, and then theres REALLY long range uboats. the 12th operates primarly in the south atlanic , like say, near cape town, or argentina.


For the above 3 flotillas, if you dont like long range patrols that are well outside of a type 7's range, and uboats that are less manuverable and slower diving then a type 7, stay away from them. :D

Keelbuster
05-12-06, 02:37 PM
I think 8 weeks is an average patrol for a VII, isn't it?

I have VIIB, am in July 1941, and started at the beginning of the war. I am on Patrol 13. I have no idea how Robj got to patrol 31 by this time, even if he was just firing all his torps off in port and docking again. However - 8 weeks is a very long patrol (in my opinion) in a VIIB. Last patrol I ran till I was almost out of fuel, and the patrol was ~4 weeks. That's with a few flank overhauling maneuvers, but otherwise sparing fuel as a rule. Remember - with 14 torps, you can only launch about three assault runs on a convoy. That can all happen in 24 hrs.

Nothing on this post seems to add up right.

Robj - if yer tired of the VIIB, then get an IXC (should be available at Lorient) by now. She's got two rear tubes. But know this - if you switch out of your VIIB (which right now pulls 21kts at flank), you will NEVER get back such a fast boat. The VIIB with the MAN engine upgrade (added by the player in ~'40) is the only boat in the game that can go that fast, and when you switch back, even with the MAN, for some reason the VIIB only pulls the maximum that the VIIC pulls (~17 or 18 kts).

I'll never let go of my speedy little VIIB.

Keelbuster
05-12-06, 02:41 PM
Btw - i can't wait until incurable diseases keep me at home so that I can play SH3 all day. Gotta find some way to kill the next 40 years....

:P

Kb

Threadfin
05-12-06, 02:47 PM
I think 8 weeks is an average patrol for a VII, isn't it?

However - 8 weeks is a very long patrol (in my opinion) in a VIIB. Last patrol I ran till I was almost out of fuel, and the patrol was ~4 weeks.

I find my average in a VII is about 35 days, depending on port, grid, weather and frequency of contacts. My record for a type VII is 108 days, has anyone done a longer type VII patrol without milkcow?

Khayman
05-12-06, 02:51 PM
But know this - if you switch out of your VIIB (which right now pulls 21kts at flank), you will NEVER get back such a fast boat. The VIIB with the MAN engine upgrade (added by the player in ~'40) is the only boat in the game that can go that fast, and when you switch back, even with the MAN, for some reason the VIIB only pulls the maximum that the VIIC pulls (~17 or 18 kts).

I'll never let go of my speedy little VIIB.

My type IXC goes at 21kts flank speed, with the MAN upgrade. So did my older IXB.

Keelbuster
05-12-06, 02:51 PM
Never gone that long - also - there's a big difference between VIIB and VIIC. Can't remember exactly, but I think a VIIB is like 4/5 VIIC in terms of fuel. I try to keep my patrols short - less risk. Time spent roaming around at sea risking air attack. Especially when you have to spend the days under (>42), I'd rather get out there, find a convoy, rip the sh&T out of it with my whole payload, and get back asap. I'm always eager to get back to port and check for new technology.

Kb

Keelbuster
05-12-06, 02:54 PM
But know this - if you switch out of your VIIB (which right now pulls 21kts at flank), you will NEVER get back such a fast boat. The VIIB with the MAN engine upgrade (added by the player in ~'40) is the only boat in the game that can go that fast, and when you switch back, even with the MAN, for some reason the VIIB only pulls the maximum that the VIIC pulls (~17 or 18 kts).

I'll never let go of my speedy little VIIB.

My type IXC goes at 21kts flank speed, with the MAN upgrade. So did my older IXB.

That's never happened for me (NYGM TW, RuB 1.45 prior). My IX class boats always top out around 18 or 19max. I remember being so disappointed with them. I think there's a difference as to whether you start with the boat, and upgrade it yourself, or whether you buy it upgraded (i.e. late war).

Have to try them again though because that would make them more appealing.

The VIIB, fully upgraded (by player) has an underwater speed, light sea, of 5kts at 1/3rd. That's practically silent, and FAST. She's so nimble.

Kb

Ducimus
05-12-06, 03:41 PM
also - there's a big difference between VIIB and VIIC. Can't remember exactly, but I think a VIIB is like 4/5 VIIC in terms of fuel.

VIIB has a shallower crush depth as compared to a VIIC, but has slighlty more battery and fuel capacity then a VIIC. Also the VIIB has an 8 kt underwater top speed as compared to the VIIC's 7.6 kts.

The VIIC is quicker to dive, has a deeper crush depth, has a tad less fuel and battery capacity then the VIIB, but also has more tower upgrades avialable to it. THe VIIB will never mount any heavy flak, the VIIC will.


Also, im faily sure the IX boats are faster then the VII boats on the surface, on vanilla that may be incorrect. But if your running any mods that adjust the sub's statistcs to their correct value, the IX boats should faster then VII's on the surface.

robj250
05-12-06, 03:53 PM
Btw - i can't wait until incurable diseases keep me at home so that I can play SH3 all day. Gotta find some way to kill the next 40 years....

:P

Kb

Believe me Keelbuster, you don't want what I have. I use a wheelchair and sometimes I need oxygen. I would not wish this on my worst enemy. One good thing is I don't get out to get in contact with people who have the flu or other such things, so that's a + in my book. I'm either playing SH3 stock with about 40 mods installed or resting because my system is too weak to handle the day.

Btw, I need a War Badge and a Front Clasp that I can put beside the medals I've received, anyone have one that they can send me?

Keelbuster
05-12-06, 04:06 PM
Btw - i can't wait until incurable diseases keep me at home so that I can play SH3 all day. Gotta find some way to kill the next 40 years....

:P

Kb

Believe me Keelbuster, you don't want what I have. I use a wheelchair and sometimes I need oxygen. I would not wish this on my worst enemy. One good thing is I don't get out to get in contact with people who have the flu or other such things, so that's a + in my book. I'm either playing SH3 stock with about 40 mods installed or resting because my system is too weak to handle the day.

Btw, I need a War Badge and a Front Clasp that I can put beside the medals I've received, anyone have one that they can send me?

robj - pardon - bad humour here. I'm sorry to hear of your condition. I'm just so badly addicted to SH3 that I need a reason to take a year or so off of work and stay at sea.

Kb

Keelbuster
05-12-06, 04:08 PM
also - there's a big difference between VIIB and VIIC. Can't remember exactly, but I think a VIIB is like 4/5 VIIC in terms of fuel.

VIIB has a shallower crush depth as compared to a VIIC, but has slighlty more battery and fuel capacity then a VIIC. Also the VIIB has an 8 kt underwater top speed as compared to the VIIC's 7.6 kts.

The VIIC is quicker to dive, has a deeper crush depth, has a tad less fuel and battery capacity then the VIIB, but also has more tower upgrades avialable to it. THe VIIB will never mount any heavy flak, the VIIC will.


Also, im faily sure the IX boats are faster then the VII boats on the surface, on vanilla that may be incorrect. But if your running any mods that adjust the sub's statistcs to their correct value, the IX boats should faster then VII's on the surface.

I'll be damned. Do you know how much deeper yer VIIC can go than a VIIB? Yesterday I crush-tested my VIIB and she began to go at around 230, I think.

KB

robj250
05-12-06, 05:43 PM
Btw - i can't wait until incurable diseases keep me at home so that I can play SH3 all day. Gotta find some way to kill the next 40 years....

:P

Kb

Believe me Keelbuster, you don't want what I have. I use a wheelchair and sometimes I need oxygen. I would not wish this on my worst enemy. One good thing is I don't get out to get in contact with people who have the flu or other such things, so that's a + in my book. I'm either playing SH3 stock with about 40 mods installed or resting because my system is too weak to handle the day.

Btw, I need a War Badge and a Front Clasp that I can put beside the medals I've received, anyone have one that they can send me?

robj - pardon - bad humour here. I'm sorry to hear of your condition. I'm just so badly addicted to SH3 that I need a reason to take a year or so off of work and stay at sea.

Kb

No problem, I took no offence to what you said, and I can certainly understand you thinking. I just LOVE playing SH3, even though my thinking is not very fast when I come across a convoy but I manage to get a couple. Wish I was fast enough to do a bow shot though, I think that would be great.

Ducimus
05-12-06, 06:15 PM
I'll be damned. Do you know how much deeper yer VIIC can go than a VIIB? Yesterday I crush-tested my VIIB and she began to go at around 230, I think.

KB

You havent spent much time fiddling with the sub's sim files have ya? ;)

Vanilla/stock/umodded i think the VIIC is only like 10 to 20 meters deeper, tops. Sadly alot of the stock game settings, are in my opinion, way off.

i've revamped/fix the boats on my game, extensively. I suppose one of these days ill acutally release some of the mods ive done. I mod alot, i just dont release anything. I figure many of these tweaks are easily done, or someone else has already zipped up said tweaks and posted them for D/L already.