Mood Makers - your daily pacific submarine war photo [Archive]

Drebbel

05-13-06, 12:36 AM

Japanese Naval Rcc / ASW Patrol Plane

http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/farmer/120/tokai.jpg

http://wmilitary.neurok.ru/wwii/q1w-d.gif

Kyushu Q1W Tokai (Eastern Sea)

Year : Nov-1944
Engine : 2 x Hitachi GK2 Amakaze , 610 hrs.pwr.
Wingspan : 16.00 m
Length : 12.08 m
Weight : 5318 kg
Max. speed : 320 km/h
Ceiling : 4490 m
Range : 1460 km
Crew : 3
Payload : 500kg bombs
Armament : 1x7.69mm guns

STEED

05-13-06, 07:33 AM

Nice pics everyone. :up:

Abraham

05-14-06, 01:29 AM

What a weird ASW/recce plane.

Drebbel

05-14-06, 01:38 AM

http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/WW2Pics6/17-0634b.jpg

Drebbel

05-15-06, 02:04 AM

http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/usnavy/billbradfield06a.jpg
Photo:- William E. Bradfield, 1944

Left to Right:- Votrobek (USS Blenny), Peniston (USS Bluegill), Bibb (USS Perch), Crump (Ship's Co.)

Sailor Steve

05-15-06, 08:31 PM

Photo:- William E. Bradfield, 1944
Hmm...wonder if he's a relative? Several of my six uncles were in the war, but none of them was named William (I think). I'll have a look in the family album-maybe a cousin-once-removed?

Drebbel

05-16-06, 01:02 AM

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1775/dfhjgjjd4pm.jpg

General view of the TDC, theTorpedo Data Computer.

GreyOctober

05-16-06, 04:26 AM

Hmmm, not very different from the german one. Guess all the captured Uboats payed off :stare:

don1reed

05-16-06, 06:14 AM

Grey October: Don't be so hasty, my friend. Before you look down your nose...do a Google search for TDC or Torpedo Data Computer...

educate yourself before making any condemnation or accussatory remarks. :up:

All the best,

don1reed

05-16-06, 07:48 AM

http://www.maritime.org/drydock99.htm

cheers,

DeepSix

05-16-06, 09:05 AM

U.S. boats were TDC-equipped (Torpedo Data Computer Mark 1) starting about 1935. The first boats to get it were the 'P'-class (Perch, etc.) and the Salmon class, after it was successfully tried out on Cachalot.

Perhaps the Germans are the ones who profited from espionage! :P

Abraham

05-23-06, 07:49 AM

Nobody else with Pacific sub pictures?
(Drebbel is on assignment and asked me to keep this thread kind of alive.)
:D

GreyOctober

05-23-06, 08:21 AM

don1reed

05-23-06, 08:26 AM

no blood, no foul.

btw: Tell us more about Enigma!!!! :yep:

GreyOctober

05-23-06, 08:42 AM

btw: Tell us more about Enigma!!!! :yep:

an enigma should stay that way. ;)

DeepSix

05-23-06, 09:18 AM

Nobody else with Pacific sub pictures?
(Drebbel is on assignment and asked me to keep this thread kind of alive.)
:D

Keep bumping it; I'm still trying to find one of my books with lots of photos in it. :D

DeepSix

05-24-06, 02:43 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Nerka.jpg

Redfish pretending to be the "Nerka" in Run Silent, Run Deep.

Abraham

05-25-06, 09:40 PM

That's a beauty...
Just the picture that makes Drebbel happy!
:D

DeepSix

05-25-06, 11:15 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Plunger.jpg
Some of the crew of the Plunger show off her battle flag.

Sailor Steve

05-26-06, 11:10 AM

Redfish pretending to be the "Nerka" in Run Silent, Run Deep.
You mean Nerka's not real? :cry:

DeepSix

05-29-06, 01:23 AM

;) For all of those subsimmers who insist on substantial improvements to the "facial hair model" for SHIV:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Beards.jpg

Some of the Sailfish crew after the boat's 10th patrol. Kneeling, L to R - Clemon E. Newkirk, Albert A. Kasuga, Robert Bradley, Lester Warburton, and John M. Good. Standing, L to R - Lt. Joseph Sahaj, Thomas L. Ulhman, Henry K. Robertson, and Maurice D. Barnes.

Rose

05-29-06, 12:00 PM

Is that a black guy smoking a pipe in the lower right corner of the Plunger photo? Was the Navy integrated earlier than the rest of the US military?

DeepSix

05-29-06, 04:09 PM

Is that a black guy smoking a pipe in the lower right corner of the Plunger photo? Was the Navy integrated earlier than the rest of the US military?

Not sure if that man is black or not; I wondered that myself. Looks like he probably is. Although somebody who was actually in the Navy could probably give you a more accurate answer about the integration of the Navy, I do know that subs often had Black or Filipino stewards. I think all ships did. It was a form of segregation (much like the way Pullman porters were black), but on a sub it probably would have been much less evident. The U.S. military was officially integrated by Truman in 1948 (I think it was '48).

Sailor Steve

05-30-06, 12:43 PM

DeepSix has it right: the U.S. Navy had black sailors, but they served on board as cooks or stewards. Ashore they were usually ammunition handlers.

Rose

05-30-06, 03:52 PM

Gotcha

DeepSix

05-30-06, 04:58 PM

That reminds me... Dorie (Doris) Miller, a ship's cook, received the Navy Cross for manning a Browning .50 cal mg at Pearl Harbor after the crew was killed or wounded. I can't remember which ship he was on; think it was West Virginia. If you've seen Tora! Tora! Tora! there's a short scene during the battle that incorporates his role.

And to tie this back in to subs: Miller eventually was assigned to the Liscome Bay, a "jeep carrier" (CVE) and was lost when that ship was torpedoed and sunk by I-175. This was one of only 2 or 3 ships sunk by Japanese subs in 1943.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/DMiller.jpg

Rose

05-30-06, 06:35 PM

That's a damn shame. Ol' Dorie looks like an ass-kicker :). Only 2 or 3 I-boats sank ships in '43 ?! That ain't too hot for the Japenese. What was their total tonnage/ship sunk count by the end of the war? I know they adhered to a strict code of targeting capitol ships only (much like the US sub force pre-1943), so I don't expect they got much done in the way of hampering the US war effort...

DeepSix

05-30-06, 07:18 PM

Miller was indeed a big guy.

Japanese subs didn't accomplish much except get sunk (that's not a slight to their fans, it's just what I consider to be the truth). Blair talks about them a little bit. They might have done a little more if we hadn't had Ultra (radio intelligence from breaking the Japanese naval codes), but I don't think it would have been much more.

I don't know total tonnages for them, but about the best they did was in 1942. They sank the already-damaged Yorktown, the Wasp, and the Juneau (on which the famous five Sullivan brothers perished). They damaged Saratoga, North Carolina, and Chester. Their losses were disproportionately heavy, though - they lost about two dozen in 1942 (6 to U.S. subs), and it just got worse from there.

In 1943 they sank Liscome Bay, the submarine Corvina, and the Henley (DD). Again, they lost about two dozen subs for the year (2 to U.S. subs). They lost about 40-50 in the first six or seven months of 1944 alone (the exact numbers and dates are in Blair). Thanks mainly to Ultra, a single destroyer, the England, sank 9 out of 12 in one ASW mission.

One of the biggest problems facing Japanese subs was that, as the war progressed and things got worse for Japan, they were pulled off offensive patrols and diverted to futile resupply and evacuation missions that really didn't do much and which led directly to the loss of dozens of their boats.

My opinion is that although the Japanese designed and built some technologically remarkable boats, they never figured out how to use a submarine to the greatest advantage (ironic, because they had a submarine torpedo (the Type 95) that was far superior to the Mark XIV). Yeah, it's pretty neat that some of their boats could tote around patrol planes, but it was a feat they couldn't get anything out of. The midgets and the "kaiten" suicide torpedoes were not particularly successful, either....

So anyway the short answer is "no, they didn't hamper the U.S. war effort very much." :D

Drebbel

05-31-06, 04:45 AM

Rescuing Flight Crews:

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7082/dhdhhggh2xv.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6462/hhfffgh0gm.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8951/cdggffg8dk.jpg

Rose

05-31-06, 06:11 AM

A must have in SH4!

DeepSix

05-31-06, 09:46 AM

:yep: lifeguarding missions. And OS2 Kingfishers.:yep:

Sailor Steve

05-31-06, 12:05 PM

Miller was indeed a big guy.
And he was fleet boxing champion; one of the few things the awful Pearl Harbor got right. He was a real hero. Unfortunately all that got him was a chance to remain a ship's cook.

Rescuing flight crews: I too would like to see that done in SHIV, since with that engine I'm sure they could make it look really good. Also, I'd like to witness (a la SHI) the bombing attack that precedes the rescue operation.

Donner

05-31-06, 04:35 PM

Staying with the lifeguarding theme....

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i262/Kaleun/Finback2Sep1944.gif

2 Sep 1944, 1156 hours, USS Finback rescues Lt. (jg.) George H. W. Bush.

Rose

05-31-06, 07:27 PM

Hah! Nice. Bush's side of the story is portrayed quite nicely in James Bradley's "Flyboys."

Ducimus

05-31-06, 07:37 PM

Looks like Bush Sr has more to show for his military service then pay stubs lol.

to go back on topic:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g30000/g37033.jpg

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g30000/g35725.jpg

http://www.warfish.com/whp2a.jpg

Ducimus

05-31-06, 07:46 PM

http://www.warfish.com/open_boat.jpg

http://www.warfish.com/dick_scope.jpg

http://www.warfish.com/control.jpg

CCIP

05-31-06, 08:22 PM

Mmm, those fleet boats sure look deliciously big :up:

Ducimus

05-31-06, 09:25 PM

IXD2 is a good boat to practice in. It's almost the same size.. its acutaly a touch smaller. Hmmmm..:hmm: i know damn well once i have my mitts on Sh4 ill drop SH3 like a brick. Im wondering if i should change up boats and use the IXD2 exclusevly. The dive time on those buggers SUCKS. But then, so do Gato's if i remember correctly. You could edit it and make it dive faster i suppose, but you'd be lying to yourself.

CCIP

05-31-06, 09:50 PM

Who said I want to make them dive faster? :p

I'm fine with them; I love the atlantic convoy battles, but the big boat appeal is always there. I can forgive them for being slow :yep:

Rose

05-31-06, 10:02 PM

Those fleet boats were pretty good-sized ships. Nothing compared to the old Argonaut though. Built in the '20s, she was sunk in '43; depth charged off New Britain. An old US V-class giant of a ship, she was the biggest and heaviest sub built at the time.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/JMR2012/v4c.jpg

I hope this is modeled in SHIV!

DeepSix

05-31-06, 10:57 PM

Me too!:up:

Ducimus

05-31-06, 11:11 PM

http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/197-5-a.jpg

http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/197-1-a.jpg

http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/197-3-a.jpg

Ducimus

05-31-06, 11:14 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/USS_Harder%3B0825713.jpg

http://www.homeofheros.com/photos/6_ww2/dealey_crew.jpg

Abraham

06-01-06, 03:44 AM

Rescuing Flight Crews:

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7082/dhdhhggh2xv.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6462/hhfffgh0gm.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8951/cdggffg8dk.jpg
I think this is the famous scene on April 30th 1944 described in the book "The Big E" when planes from the Enterprise raided Truk. At 10:00 an Avenger of Torpedo Ten sighted aa aviator in a yellow dinghy. Two OS2U Kingfishers of the USS North Carolina arrived after 45 minutes. During the rescue operation one of the planes capsized in the choppy sea. The other plane, flown by Lt. (j.g.) John Burns landed, took the three men onboard, balanced one on each wing and one near the fuselage and taxied towards the USS Tang, which whad rescueservice and was directed to the scene. After putting the three aviators on board the OS2U took off again and quickly spotted an Hellcat circling another pilot in the water. Due to the choppy sea Burns could not take off with the extra weight. He warned another plane which relayed the message to the Tang which announced to be on the scene in three hours. At 13:00 Burns picked up two more Enterprise Avenger crews. With seven aviator draped over the wings the overloaded plane slowly taxied towards the Tang. At 17:00 all aviators of the Enterprise were on board, including Burns and his rear-seatman and the Kingfisher was machine gunned and sunk by the Tang. Tang saved 22 airmen that day...

Drebbel

06-01-06, 05:19 AM

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/286/submarinejeep8ig.jpg

DeepSix

06-01-06, 09:30 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Argonaut_NYC_sm.jpg

Argonaut on the Hudson River, about 1929.

Drebbel

06-01-06, 09:33 AM

Ah, must have been during WW1 1/2

:rotfl:

DeepSix

06-01-06, 09:35 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Seawolf2_sm.jpg

Seawolf at Mare Island - really good shot of the mine guard.

Drebbel

06-01-06, 09:36 AM

What exactly does a mine guard do ?

DeepSix

06-01-06, 09:41 AM

The guard pushes the mine's anchoring cable out away from dive planes and propellers, so it does not get fouled in them and pull the mine down to the sub....

Drebbel

06-01-06, 09:44 AM

The guard pushes the mine's anchoring cable out away from dive planes and propellers, so it does not get fouled in them and pull the mine down to the sub....

Ah I see, makes sense. But why no guards on fw planes ?

I also wonder why the sb and port guard are no the same. Not that it matters much, seems they could bothe do the same job.

DeepSix

06-01-06, 09:46 AM

I don't know... been wondering where that is myself.

Ducimus

06-01-06, 11:42 AM

I just learned something new today. Ive always wondered what that rear assembely is for. It never bothered me enough to research it i guess :88)

DeepSix

06-01-06, 12:13 PM

Been thinking about the lack of a forward guard, and the most reasonable guess I can come up with is that since the bow planes and their arms were swept back somewhat, perhaps that acted as a guard. But that's just a guess. I think the main concern was keeping stuff clear of the screws.

Donner

06-01-06, 12:46 PM

DeepSix

06-01-06, 02:40 PM

Well that's a thought.:hmm: I always heard they were mine guards, but a "fender" makes sense, too. Maybe I heard wrong.

Subnuts

06-01-06, 03:36 PM

This is the first time I've ever heard of them referred to anything besides propeller guards.

Not that I've ever actually known what that term means.

CCIP

06-01-06, 04:06 PM

The resemblance between the Argonaut and an oversized Type IX U-boat is uncanny!

I want it too :up:

Bort

06-02-06, 03:48 AM

Even bigger than Argonaut were the boats of the Narwahl class. Those monsters weighed 2,730 tons surfaced and featured twin 6 inch deck guns, just perfect for a surface gunner like me!:arrgh!:
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/n20000/n29179.jpg

DeepSix

06-02-06, 08:01 AM

You mean Nerka's not real? :cry:

I just learned something interesting - there was a Nerka planned (SS-380) but she was cancelled before being laid down. http://www.navsource.org/

DeepSix

06-03-06, 12:47 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Skipjack3.gif

U.S.S. Skipjack

Drebbel

06-03-06, 07:10 AM

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2706/bbbbbbbbbbbbbb1dy.jpg

Bonefish (SS-223), returning to the submarine base in Fremantle, Austraila, circa 1943 - 45.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3011/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa5he.jpg

Busy pier scene at Fremantle Austraila, circa late 1944 and before June 1945. From left to right, stern view to the camera are the Bonefish (SS-223), Rasher (SS-269), Bowfin (SS-287), Bluefish (SS-222), Narwhal (SS-167) and the sub tender Pelias (AS-14). Second row, bow view are the Cod (SS-224), Tinosa (SS-283) and Crevalle (SS-291).

I placed these pictures because Fremantle is a pretty unknown WWII submarine base to a lot of people. I sure hope it will be in SHIV. Is was the main base for patrolling the Dutch East Indies. There where also many English and Dutch submarines stationed at this base. Most of them under US operational control.

Rose

06-03-06, 08:57 AM

Yeah, it must be in SHIV; it was the main sub-base for Asiatic Fleet after they moved from Cavite and Suryabaya.

Abraham

06-03-06, 10:40 AM

Never heard of them as 'mine guards'...:hmm:

My father who was in the Navy during the "Big Show" told me that the objects in question were to keep small craft and whatnot away from the screws. Much suction is created when the screws start turning and can suck down a small boat with no problem.
The fenders were called 'propellor guards' and fitted standard to the Gato/Balao class. They were strongly built to protect the screws (and axes!) from damage in harbours. Mines were not seen as a real danger to the fleet submarines, giving their area of operations (until perhaps late in the war when the silent service penetrated the Japanese Inland Sea). Because of their limited use the propellor guards of many boats were removed in 1944 and 1945 (see Drebbels posting of this morning). Sometimes boats used detachable propellor guards: SS 257 USS Runner being an example.
(source: The Floating Drydock: Plan Book)
:know:

DeepSix

06-03-06, 11:00 AM

The fenders were called 'propellor guards' and fitted standard to the Gato/Balao class. They were strongly built to protect the screws (and axes!) from damage in harbours. Mines were not seen as a real danger to the fleet submarines, giving their area of operations (until perhaps late in the war when the silent service penetrated the Japanese Inland Sea). Because of their limited use the propellor guards of many boats were removed in 1944 and 1945 (see Drebbels posting of this morning). Sometimes boats used detachable propellor guards: SS 257 USS Runner being an example.
(source: The Floating Drydock: Plan Book)
:know:

I stand corrected. Thanks, Abraham. Now, I know I have read somewhere (either in Blair or in Calvert but I can't remember which and haven't found the passage yet) that at least some boats were fitted with "mine guards." Anybody know what that looked like?

Drebbel

06-04-06, 03:09 AM

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6375/00006qe.jpg

Drebbel

06-04-06, 03:12 AM

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/915/11113xu.jpg

Drebbel

06-04-06, 03:13 AM

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2092/22228rj.jpg

Drebbel

06-04-06, 03:14 AM

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/706/33330ew.jpg

DeepSix

06-04-06, 09:06 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Shark.jpg

Shark surfacing

BTW, cool pics, Drebbel.:up:

RickC Sniper

06-04-06, 10:59 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/convoy1943.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/ship3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/ship2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/ship1.jpg

Drebbel

06-05-06, 06:36 AM

Nice pics rick, any info on that convoy ? Looks so "Atlantic war like"

RickC Sniper

06-05-06, 02:34 PM

Nope, no info. I just like the pictue. The periscope is German, I think

Drebbel

06-05-06, 02:40 PM

Nope, no info. I just like the pictue. The periscope is German, I think

Nice pics, but please remember this is the SHIV forum and the thread is named

" Mood Makers - your daily pacific submarine war photo (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=261998#post261998) "

:D

Ducimus

06-05-06, 06:00 PM

Nice pics rick, any info on that convoy ? Looks so "Atlantic war like"

because it is :D The periscope picture is a classic german one. I think it was a postage stamp or something at some point.

---------------

Note the broom :D

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1193/wahoosweep2hp.jpg

Rose

06-05-06, 08:35 PM

"Mush" Morton, lower left, aft of the bridge :arrgh!:. (Or is that Kane?)

Notice the statement fluttering off the Observation 'scope, "SINK THE SUN ZA-BITCHES."

What an ass-kicker Morton was... Terrible loss... You know, the Pearl Harbor Admiral's wife actually requested that the statement be taken down from the 'scope :lol:.

Ducimus

06-05-06, 08:42 PM

Looking at this picture
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g30000/g35725.jpg

Im guessing its O'kane by the hat tilt.

DeepSix

06-05-06, 08:47 PM

Pretty sure it's Dick O'Kane.

Torplexed

06-05-06, 11:26 PM

Another Argonaut one. Members of her crew gathered about one of her deck guns reading mail. I always liked this pic because it certainly shows the scale of the massive 6"/53 gun. Kinda depressing to think most of these men were still serving aboard her when she met her cruel end.

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Argonaut_Deck_Gun.jpg

Drebbel

06-06-06, 05:47 AM

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9928/photo2814rz.jpg

Drebbel

06-06-06, 06:01 AM

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9924/qqqqqddhhh1ki.jpg

Royal Netherlands Navy submarine at Fremantle

Drebbel

06-06-06, 06:03 AM

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8378/rrrrrrdddsdghh9qk.jpg

Britisch submarines in Fremantle

cmdrk

06-06-06, 08:43 AM

"Mush" Morton, lower left, aft of the bridge :arrgh!:. (Or is that Kane?)

It looks like Morton is on the bridge.

DeepSix

06-06-06, 09:41 AM

Another Argonaut one. Members of her crew gathered about one of her deck guns reading mail. I always liked this pic because it certainly shows the scale of the massive 6"/53 gun. ...

Yeah, that is huge. Wonder what their rate of fire was with a cruiser-sized gun? Or with both going at once?

The pic looks kind of "posed" - an admonition to keep sending our boys mail, etc. Great shot.

don1reed

06-06-06, 10:54 AM

Drebbel's offering of the two British subs @ Fremantle...

The inboard boat with it's caps open, somehow resembles Nemo's Nautilus, doesn't it? It has a 'wild eyes' look:up:
A pair of 'raptors' from prehistoric times.

Rose

06-06-06, 11:33 AM

Ya, I just saw that its O'Kane aft of the bridge on the deck, with Morton ON the bridge.

Drebbel

06-07-06, 02:43 PM

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1886/qrwteere9sz.jpg

USS Wahoo in action

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5797/gjkg7rj.jpg

USS Guardfish in action

CaptainNemo

06-08-06, 02:33 PM

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/Bilder/storm.jpg

Drebbel

06-09-06, 01:54 PM

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5042/wggefgggg8eb.jpg
HMS Storm approaching Trincomalee (Sri Lanka)

DeepSix

06-09-06, 01:59 PM

Even flying her naval jack, too.:up:

Drebbel

06-12-06, 12:46 AM

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/9614/82004bg3ff.jpg

Onkel Neal

06-13-06, 09:44 PM

USS Cavalla on patrol
http://www.cavalla.org/cavhbe12.jpg

Onkel Neal

06-13-06, 09:46 PM

Don Hasely greets the boarding party.
Cavalla skipper Herm Kossler can be seen with the jacket in the middle back.

http://www.cavalla.org/kingbay2.gif

Drebbel

06-14-06, 07:05 AM

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1333/689ygjttyehe0xz.jpg

Electric Boat Co., Groton. August 1943

Drebbel

06-14-06, 07:14 AM

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4696/678yjhtrthtrh9uv.jpg

USS Capelin, Aug 1943

Drebbel

06-14-06, 07:15 AM

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7509/111cbdhedh4yi.jpg

ca. May 1945

Drebbel

06-15-06, 07:11 AM

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4965/tjkffffgdgdgg1jd.jpg
Hakuryu Maru, 1943

Drebbel

06-15-06, 07:17 AM

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3213/qqfgjfhhdh6xk.jpg
Tomokawa Maru, 1944

I-25

06-15-06, 01:49 PM

my i be the first to add jap subs (well fleet ones anyways..)
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_39-50_t88_submarine_pic.jpg
cleaning the 100mm

http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/106425.jpg
I-400
http://www.artfiberglass.com/ship/images/JAPSUB.jpg
I-53, I-36

JSF

06-17-06, 07:24 AM

Kurushio

06-19-06, 05:54 AM

How about this for a nice, juicy target?

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2220/h446173kp.jpg

By the way. Can anyone tell me if the Japanese "rising sun" flag is taboo in the US just as the Swastika is over here in Europe?

Kurushio

06-19-06, 06:14 AM

Kongo The battleship Kongo at anchor, probably in 1931, with awnings spread to give the crew some shade. The natural wood colour of the teak deck can here clearly be seen and the crew are dressed in their summer "whites". She has just been rebuilt at Yokosuka and although initially completed as a battlecruiser she is now officially reclassified a battleship. No catapult is yet fitted and the aircraft, one of three Type 14 reconnaissance seaplanes, is placed on the aircraft arrangement area between turrets 3 and 4. Note that the name of the Kongo is written in katakana on the aircraft's wing surface. On the left (to starboard) is the aircraft handling derrick post.
From the magazine "REKISHI SASHIN" (History in Photos), November 1932.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8956/na11kj.jpg

CCIP

06-19-06, 10:26 AM

DeepSix

06-19-06, 12:06 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Silversides.jpg

Silversides under construction; Mare Island, 2 January 1941.

Kurushio

06-19-06, 12:40 PM

By the way. Can anyone tell me if the Japanese "rising sun" flag is taboo in the US just as the Swastika is over here in Europe?
As if!

Nope. It's still the official flag of the JSDF (Japan Self-Defense Force), and I don't think the Japanese would take kindly any suggestions to change it. Unlike with Germany, Japanese nationalism was carefully sidestepped after World War II. The allies traded the prohibition of militarism in Japan for the right to (more or less) maintain nationalism.

Ok, thanks for that. Though in a way I'm glad, because I wont buy a game which substitutes historical accuracy for misplaced political correctness. That's why I bought the US version of SH3 seeing the European version replaced the Swastika with a silly, made up German naval flag.

Drebbel

06-19-06, 01:38 PM

joea

06-19-06, 01:39 PM

By the way. Can anyone tell me if the Japanese "rising sun" flag is taboo in the US just as the Swastika is over here in Europe?
As if!

Nope. It's still the official flag of the JSDF (Japan Self-Defense Force), and I don't think the Japanese would take kindly any suggestions to change it. Unlike with Germany, Japanese nationalism was carefully sidestepped after World War II. The allies traded the prohibition of militarism in Japan for the right to (more or less) maintain nationalism.
Ok, thanks for that. Though in a way I'm glad, because I wont buy a game which substitutes historical accuracy for misplaced political correctness. That's why I bought the US version of SH3 seeing the European version replaced the Swastika with a silly, made up German naval flag.
Yup, I am all for historical correctness (and NOT PC) in games and modelling though I doubt you could fly the actual flag in Seoul or Shanghai. Or wear the t-shirts I've seen around.

Kurushio

06-19-06, 05:15 PM

Drebbel

06-19-06, 05:26 PM

...give some examples

Nope, this is the SHIV forum, not the SHIII forum :D

Kurushio

06-19-06, 05:26 PM

Ok, thanks for that. Though in a way I'm glad, because I wont buy a game which substitutes historical accuracy for misplaced political correctness. That's why I bought the US version of SH3 seeing the European version replaced the Swastika with a silly, made up German naval flag.
Does that mean you did not notice all the other political correctness in the sim ? ;)
...give some examples

edit: (sorry, have to stop hijacking threads...bad habit of mine) :oops:

Here's a pic of the Big Papi to make up for it...

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7980/11110vn.jpg

Imagine the explosion this baby will make!

Drebbel

06-19-06, 05:29 PM

No need to make up for it, afterall I put out the bait myself.

Nice image btw !

Kurushio

06-19-06, 05:34 PM

No need to make up for it, afterall I put out the bait myself.

Nice image btw !

Thanks...

Ok, found the image of the Yamato exploding...knew it was somewhere on the net. Here it is...

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2442/yamatobattleshipexplosion1le.jpg

Wow! Like a mini nuke...imagine that happening in SH4 *rubs hands* :rock:

joea

06-19-06, 07:03 PM

How many torps would you need though?? :p

Sailor Steve

06-20-06, 12:19 PM

I don't have the data at hand, but I think Yamato took something like 19 torps and an equal number of bombs. Musashi took (if I'm remembering correctly) 22 torpedoes and 17 bombs.

Kurushio

06-20-06, 12:21 PM

I don't have the data at hand, but I think Yamato took something like 19 torps and an equal number of bombs. Musashi took (if I'm remembering correctly) 22 torpedoes and 17 bombs.

Bah...bad aim...I could've done it with a 1 or 2. :smug: :yep: :p

Kurushio

06-21-06, 04:28 PM

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/7328/h730918dq.jpg

DeepSix

06-24-06, 09:44 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Narwhal_Dec7.jpg
Narwhal tied up at the Pearl Harbor sub base during the attack.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/S39_jungle.jpg
The crew of S-39 sneaks onto the Japanese-held island of Chebia to look for stranded British and Australians who escaped from Singapore.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/S44_v_Kako.jpg
S-44 vs. Kako.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Harder_Woleai.jpg
Harder moves in to the beach at Woleai to pick up a downed aviator.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Harder_DDKiller.jpg
The Destroyer Killer strikes again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Gunners.jpg
Gunners in action; not sure which boat or what date.

Safe-Keeper

06-24-06, 12:54 PM

DeepSix

06-24-06, 01:07 PM

Been a while since that pic' was posted but what the Heck was the broom for? Did it have a symbolic purpose or was it used to clean the undersides of other ships?....

A broom secured to the shears indicates a "clean sweep" for the patrol - if I'm not mistaken, it symbolizes a victory in each engagement (i.e., "We swept the enemy from the seas"). A navy version of the victory roll.:)

Safe-Keeper

06-24-06, 01:38 PM

Thanks. One of those little things that should be implemented into Silent Hunter IV, by the way. Returning to port with your crew on the deck and suddenly noticing this broom atop your periscope (in addition to eventual flags and banners):cool:. Easter eggs "FTW".

DeepSix

06-24-06, 01:45 PM

...Returning to port with your crew on the deck and suddenly noticing this broom atop your periscope (in addition to eventual flags and banners):cool:. Easter eggs "FTW".

Saaaaay... Not a bad idea, there!:hmm:

Tigrone

06-24-06, 04:27 PM

After the Battle of Dungeness in December 1652 there is a legend:

"Maarten Tromp was an Admiral brave & bold; The Dutchmans' pride was he.
And, I've a broom at the mast said he, for the broom is a sign for me,
that wherever I go, the world may know, I sweep the 7-seas."

Been a while since that pic' was posted but what the Heck was the broom for? Did it have a symbolic purpose or was it used to clean the undersides of other ships?....

A broom secured to the shears indicates a "clean sweep" for the patrol - if I'm not mistaken, it symbolizes a victory in each engagement (i.e., "We swept the enemy from the seas"). A navy version of the victory roll.:)

Kurushio

06-24-06, 05:06 PM

Been a while since that pic' was posted but what the Heck was the broom for? Did it have a symbolic purpose or was it used to clean the undersides of other ships?
Wow! Like a mini nuke...imagine that happening in SH4 *rubs hands* :rock:I hate to be a killjoy, but could we tune down the enthusiasm a little bit. It is a picture of a couple of thousand young sailors getting killed, after all. Not saying you don't take this seriously, your comment just sounded a bit... Morbid.

I agree, though, it would be nice if explosions that size was in without lagging the game to H**l.
Errr...no. You have no power over me so telling me what to do wont work. :up: And anyway, I was rubbing my hands at the prospect of the explosion happening in SH4, not because of the sailors dying. Read the post properly next time. :roll:

p.s. ...how about you contribute to the thread? :stare:

p.p.s. It's "tone" down the enthusiasm...not "tune" down. Tune is what you do to a car. :lol:

Safe-Keeper

06-24-06, 06:45 PM

p.s. ...how about you contribute to the thread? :stare:Er...no. You have no power over me so telling me what to do wont work:arrgh!:.

The rest I'm not responding to as it's off-topic and won't exactly contribute to the discussion here:-?.

Miniatures and 3D models (but because I want to, not because Kuroshio told me to:p):
http://www.peter-hundert-web.de/Bilder/gato-stand.jpg
http://www.mobhome.de/vehicles/pics/gato.jpg
http://smmlonline.com/members/mainbrace/rusty_white/gato_6.jpg

And last, but not least:
Milk Cow. (http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/cow/MilkCow-anim038.jpg)
Eel. (http://www.mbayaq.org/efc/living_species/organism_images/lsl_reef_m032.jpg)

DeepSix

06-25-06, 12:53 AM

Safe-Keeper

06-25-06, 08:41 PM

http://dd710.proflyersinc.com/nor25a.jpg

New schematics:
http://www.emackinnon.com/gato-diagram-info.jpg
Did they call the compartments "rooms", or is that a mistake from the "schematicsist"'s side?

INTERIORS!

http://www.ussthesullivans.net/crk2.jpg
http://www.ussthesullivans.net/crkr-1.jpg
http://www.ussthesullivans.net/sub-3.jpg
http://www.ussthesullivans.net/sub-4.jpg
http://www.ussthesullivans.net/sub-6.jpg
http://www.ussthesullivans.net/sub-5.jpg
http://www.ussthesullivans.net/sub-8.jpg

Boat? That's a freaking luxury yacht:sunny:!

don1reed

06-26-06, 07:32 AM

Excellent pics!

Rooms, Compartments, Space, Lockers, Voids, Cofferdam.

In nautical lingo, all are generally interchangable descriptive words--except where "ROOM" is part of a true proper name for a particular space or compartment, i.e., ENGINE ROOM, FWD TORPEDO ROOM, RADIO ROOM...etc. One would never lay aft to the aft torpedo compartment; although, technically correct, it's not it's proper name.

Officer's Quarters is AKA Officer Country...this add-on lets FNG's know you don't wander in without permission, nor present yourself without military bearing. As always, exception is when a enlisted sailor is wearing an "ON-DUTY" device, such as, webbed belt(commo runner) or watch-stander...drills and GQ.

cheers,

Safe-Keeper

06-26-06, 10:50 AM

Excellent pics!Thanks! I googled "Gato-class" or something and came across an interior shot. The caption labelled it as the interior of "USS Croaker", an "open boat". So I googled "USS Croaker" and:ping:...

Oh, and I appreciate your run-down on the naval jargon for "compartments".
http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-Forward-Torpedo-Room.JPG

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-ForwardEnginRoom-Gary.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-Toliet.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-AfterTorpedoRoom.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-CrewMess.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-Galley.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-CoffeePot-ForwardGalleyHatch.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-ViewUpToPeriscope.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-ControlRoomChristmasTree.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-ControlRoomWet.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-ControlRoomDry.jpg

Safe-Keeper

06-26-06, 11:11 AM

The USS Bowfin:
Far better interior shots.
http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-SonarGary.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-OfficersBunk.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-OfficersStateRoom.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-OfficersHallway.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/PearlHarbor-Bowfin-YeomanRoom.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-Forward-Torpedo-Room.JPG

We're in clovers here!

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-BowViewFromBridge.jpg

http://www.emackinnon.com/Bowfin-BryanOnBow.jpg

Safe-Keeper

06-26-06, 11:54 AM

http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss175_tarpon_insig.jpg http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss201_triton_insig.jpg

http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss224_cod_insig.jpg http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ssk242_bluegill_insig.jpg

http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss243_bream_insig.jpg http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss249_flasher_insig.jpg

http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss269_rasher-a_insig.jpg http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss269-ssr_rasher_insig.jpg

http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss269-agss_rasher-b_insig.jpg http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss269-agss_rasher-a_ins.jpg

http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss270-agss_raton_insig.jpg http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/insignia/sp/ss/ss274-agss_rock_insig.JPG

Kurushio

06-26-06, 12:28 PM

Wow, very nice pics Safe-Keeper...where did you get them?

Here's one I found for you:

Here's a Japanese mine ship exploding:

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/9471/shipexpl0od.jpg

wooopeee dooooo! look at that baby go.....:rock:Yeah baby! Blow baby BLOWWWW for me! KABOOOOM!!! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

p.s. It was a mine ship...they are scum...they chuck out mines left,right and centre often killing innocent people in fishing boats etc...mind if I celebrate the cessation of scum on this planet?

Safe-Keeper

06-26-06, 01:36 PM

Wooopeee dooooo! look at that baby go.....:rock:Yeah baby! Blow baby BLOWWWW for me! KABOOOOM!!! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:I somehow get the feeling you're egging me on:rotfl:.

Wow, very nice pics Safe-Keeper...where did you get them?http://www.bluejacket.com/. Check out the Naval Life Do-it-Yourself-Kit in the Humor section.

DIRTY DEALER

06-26-06, 10:38 PM

http://www.usscod.org/

This submarine is in my town.....

I'll try to get there soon and take soon photos for you all.....

DeepSix

06-27-06, 05:26 AM

Bullhead (SS-332)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/Bullhead3.gif

Safe-Keeper

06-27-06, 09:41 AM

Torpedoes out the nose, that's so neat:lol:.

http://www.virtualwall.org/units/cva34-3.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6093/36zx.png

I've been on the aircraft carrier that's a "museum ship" moored permanently to the dock at Corpus Cristi. You could go practically everywhere on her, even on the bridge and captain's cabin:cool:. It had some real fighters on deck too.

__________________________________________________ _________
Thanks to Erixxn (www.battlefield.no) for the cute crying smiley!

Drebbel

06-30-06, 03:00 PM

http://tinyurl.com/k8pg4 (http://tinyurl.com/k8pg4)

Drebbel

07-01-06, 01:26 AM

USS Snapper sinks Tokai Maru (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=8F4A97DB72159E12&key=69fa43d7642cb021b6ee3ad57c3cb6780b7f37a9)

Drebbel

07-03-06, 01:25 PM

Unique Yamamoto Picture (http://www.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/asx/32_200k.asx)

Drebbel

07-05-06, 12:38 AM

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9231/jykhrhdh5yz.jpg

CA Takao in Singapore, 1945

Drebbel

07-05-06, 06:04 AM

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5650/marucaptx25bm.jpg

Captain Amimoto Tomohiro of the coaster Hokoku Maru climbing aboard the USS Blenny in May 1945.

Kurushio

07-05-06, 07:01 AM

Looks like they are about ready to kick him back into the sea :lol:

Safe-Keeper

07-05-06, 11:12 AM

CA Takao in Singapore, 1945Anchor chains... They have to be in Silent Hunter IV:cool:.

A very good picture (taken by satellite) of Midway Atoll:
http://www.accessnoaa.noaa.gov/images/coralmap1.jpg

Battlefield 1942 got it so wrong that it scares me...

Pearl Harbour:
http://efg.aidemac.net/images/pfcartes/10hawaipearlharbor.jpg

Arrows!
http://efg.aidemac.net/images/pfcartes/mapscomg.jpg

Sources
http://images.google.no/imgres?imgurl=http://www.accessnoaa.noaa.gov/images/coralmap1.jpg
http://efg.aidemac.net/images/pfcartes/10hawaipearlharbor.jpg&imgrefurl=http://efg.aidemac.net/cartes/01pearl.php&h=708&w=994&sz=93&hl=ia&start=43&tbnid=FAeLbhkXorEnzM:&tbnh=106&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3DPearl%2BHarbour%26start%3D36%26ndsp%3 D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dia%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

Ducimus

07-07-06, 02:14 PM

Not a picture, but defnatly a mood maker:

I'M THE GALLOPING GHOST OF THE JAPANESE COAST

By Constantine Guiness, MOMM 1/C, USN

I'm the galloping ghost of the Japanese coast.
You don't hear of me and my crew
But just ask any man off the coast of Japan.
If he knows of the Trigger Maru.

I look sleek and slender alongside my tender.
With others like me at my side,
But we'll tell you a story of battle and glory,
As enemy waters we ride.

I've been stuck on a rock, felt the depth charge's shock,
Been north to a place called Attu,
and I've sunk me two freighters atop the equator
Hot work, but the sea was cold blue.

I've cruised close inshore and carried the war
to the Empire Island Honshu,
While they wire Yokahama I could see Fujiyama,
So I stayed, to admire the view.

When we rigged to run silently, deeply I dived,
And within me the heat was terrific.
My men pouring sweat, silent and yet
Cursed me and the whole damned Pacific.

Then destroyers came sounding and depth charges pounding
My submarine crew took the test.
Far in that far off land there are no friends on hand,
To answer a call of distress.

I was blasted and shaken (some damage I be taken),
my hull bleeds and pipe lines do, too
I've come in from out there for machinery repair,
And a rest for me and my crew.

I got by on cool nerve and in silence I served,
Though I took some hard knocks in return,
One propeller shaft sprung and my battery's done,
But the enemy ships I saw burn.

I'm the galloping ghost of the Japanese coast,
You don't hear of me and my crew.
But just ask any man off the coast of Japan,
If he knows of the Trigger Maru.

stinger503

07-08-06, 12:55 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/58/I-8Brest.jpg/800px-I-8Brest.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/I-8Brest.jpg)
Japanese sub I-8 & crew stopped in Brest, France.

NEON DEON

07-08-06, 01:40 AM

Wow! That was a nice picture Stinger!:up:

Drebbel

07-09-06, 03:10 AM

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6418/578567765jr.jpg

Saukko

07-15-06, 02:56 AM

These pictures should make every wanna-be american submarine captain's mouth water.

Kongo-class, originally battlecruiser but later re-build as fast battleship:
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6171/kongo01rl5.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kongo01rl5.jpg)

Suzuya, Mogami-class heavy cruiser:
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7923/suzuya01lb4.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suzuya01lb4.jpg)

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4056/suzuya02he2.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suzuya02he2.jpg)

Takao, Takao-class heavy cruiser:
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8996/takao01lt8.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takao01lt8.jpg)

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8640/takao02jy4.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takao02jy4.jpg)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7495/takao03du0.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takao03du0.jpg)

Damn those IJN warships were hot looking, and powerful too.

Wilko

07-15-06, 04:01 AM

hmmm... targets :arrgh!:

Drebbel

07-26-06, 02:38 AM

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6466/albanyia2.jpg

Port of Albany in 1943. A not very well known Australian port that was used for refits and R&R by allied Submarines

Drebbel

07-26-06, 02:52 AM

http://www.arch-hiroshima.net/a-map/hiroshima/kure01.jpg

Naval facilities in Kure, Japan, 1940

Drebbel

07-28-06, 06:28 AM

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/PippinBill/5394L.jpg

http://media.whydevelop.com/j/www.justplanehobbies.com/media/8342.jpg

Nakajima's C6N Saiun was one of the finest Japanese carrier-based recon aircraft during World War II.

Drebbel

07-30-06, 07:57 AM

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3583/457836556rc6.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2696/658946436lh3.jpg

USS Hardhead in 1944. Note the horse shoe and the search light.

Drebbel

07-30-06, 08:09 AM

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/900/777cvmvvbbnua2.gif

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7938/777gjdgdfgggio9.gif

Japanese Type 94 depth charge thrower.

Saukko

07-30-06, 12:58 PM

Greaf bow shot of Akagi, that row boat is good for size comparisons.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2978/akagi01vf7.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=akagi01vf7.jpg)

Grounded Amagi after U.S. air attack.
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6489/amagi01ut7.th.jpg (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amagi01ut7.jpg)

Hiryo.
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/9871/hiryo01sd4.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hiryo01sd4.jpg)

Kaga.
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7616/kaga01du8.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kaga01du8.jpg)

don1reed

07-31-06, 01:06 PM

AFTERMATH:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/donhreed/PH1.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/donhreed/PH5.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/donhreed/PH8.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/donhreed/PH13.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/donhreed/PH14.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/donhreed/PH15.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/donhreed/PH16.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/donhreed/PH17.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/donhreed/PH18.jpg

U.S.losses were:
Casualties
USA: 218 KIA, 364 WIA.
USN: 2,008 KIA, 710 WIA.
USMC: 109 KIA, 69 WIA.
Civilians: 68 KIA, 35 WIA.
TOTAL: 2,403 KIA, 1,178 WIA.
Battleships
USS Arizona (BB-39) - total loss when a bomb hit her magazine.
USS Oklahoma (BB-37) - Total loss when she capsized and sunk in the harbor.
USS California (BB-44) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired.
USS West Virginia (BB-48) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired.
USS Nevada - (BB-36) Beached to prevent sinking. Later repaired.
USS Pennsylvania (BB-38) - Light damage.
USS Maryland (BB-46) - Light damage.
USS Tennessee (BB-43) Light damage.
USS Utah (AG-16) - (former battleship used as a target) - Sunk.
Cruisers
USS New Orleans (CA-32) - Light Damage..
USS San Francisco (CA-38) - Light Damage.
USS Detroit (CL-8) - Light Damage.
USS Raleigh (CL-7) - Heavily damaged but repaired.
USS Helena (CL-50) - Light Damage.
USS Honolulu (CL-48) - Light Damage..
Destroyers
USS Downes (DD-375) - Destroyed. Parts salvaged.
USS Cassin - (DD-372) Destroyed. Parts salvaged.
USS Shaw (DD-373) - Very heavy damage.
USS Helm (DD-388) - Light Damage.
Minelayer
USS Ogala (CM-4) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.
Seaplane Tender
USS Curtiss (AV-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired.
Repair Ship
USS Vestal (AR-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired.
Harbor Tug
USS Sotoyomo (YT-9) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.
Aircraft
188 Aircraft destroyed (92 USN and 92 U.S. Army Air Corps.)

Drebbel

08-12-06, 12:37 PM

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7076/tokyobaybf2.jpg

USS Archerfish

Drebbel

08-12-06, 12:42 PM

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2533/h96816kw8.jpg

Safe-Keeper

08-12-06, 08:57 PM

"It's either be nice to Americans or slaughter Chinese civilians. I know which is more fun. I'll get my killin' hat! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqgo7xWJMY0)":rotfl:

Not to say Pearl Harbour wasn't a serious thing, of course:-?. It's the movie they make fun of.
http://www.submarineart.com/images/diesel/uss_trigger_duo_ss237_ss564.jpg

Drebbel

08-13-06, 09:14 AM

Japanese carrier, probably 1943

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7617/756554543su1.jpg

Now how do I land my damn plane ??????????

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7954/98776898vm6.jpg

Drebbel

09-30-06, 11:06 AM

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5622/notoro02rs71fw9.jpg
Seaplane Tender/Oiler Notoro

Drebbel

09-30-06, 11:09 AM

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/6779/14fshq151dw6.jpg
Japanese Seaplane Base

Oberon

09-30-06, 11:44 AM

http://www.subart.net/final_act.jpg

I-25, designed to attack the Panama Canal, involved in the attack on Pearl, involved in the only continental bombing raid on the US. Destroyed by the USS Patterson off the New Hebrides islands on 3rd September 1943.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/I-25.jpg

Drebbel

10-03-06, 05:09 AM

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4364/6875746777iq4.jpg

USN officer inspecting Jap sub 158

I-25

10-03-06, 02:00 PM

[quote=Oberon]http://www.subart.net/final_act.jpg

I-25, designed to attack the Panama Canal, involved in the attack on Pearl, involved in the only continental bombing raid on the US. Destroyed by the USS Patterson off the New Hebrides islands on 3rd September 1943.[quote]

:hmm: WWhaaa? Thats the I-400!!! no even close to the I-25 and also the I-25 was of the I-15 (B1) class SCOUT subs, Not attack subs and was Never ever planed to attack panama, it was only scouting in the PH attack and was considered an operational loss.

This it the I-401 of the I-400 (StO) class it was desinged to bomb new york! not panama but as the war carried on they decided they where better off bomb panama, and this was also not done in the end they were on their way to bomb ulithi atoll when the war endedhttp://www.hokuriku.ne.jp/montanyu/81aaa/i400.jpg

This is the I-19 of The I-15 (B1) same as I-25 Class
http://www.unitedempireminiatures.com/ProdImages/1-I19cWM.jpg

Oberon

10-03-06, 04:26 PM

Hmmmm

:damn:

AVGWarhawk

10-05-06, 03:12 PM

http://www.hnsa.org/ships/torsk.htm

This submarine is in my home town of Baltimore. For you skinners out there, make this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:up::D

Saukko

10-25-06, 06:02 PM

There is an American movie called The Final Countdown (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/), where USS Nimitz goes back in time to just before Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor. But there is also a Japanese anime-series Zipang where modern Japanese warship goes back in time, just before the Battle of Midway. They decide not to interfere, and after the battle they stop to think about their situation, but they are spotted by American submarine.

Das Boot?
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3209/zipangscreenshot01gr4.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot01gr4.jpg)
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5784/zipangscreenshot02hr7.th.jpg (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot02hr7.jpg)

Firing torpedoes.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7577/zipangscreenshot03bq3.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot03bq3.jpg)

Crew was cautch off-guard, and they detect the submarine only after torpedo launch.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6678/zipangscreenshot04or1.th.jpg (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot04or1.jpg)

American submarine, Gato-class?
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4265/zipangscreenshot05ih1.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot05ih1.jpg)

Modern warships are quite fast, so naturally captain of the submarine is surprised, when she evades the torpedoes.
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3473/zipangscreenshot06je5.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot06je5.jpg)http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9653/zipangscreenshot07pa6.th.jpg (http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot07pa6.jpg)

Preparing the rest of the torpedoes, and opening tube doors.
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3719/zipangscreenshot08lr8.th.jpg (http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot08lr8.jpg)http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8101/zipangscreenshot09dh2.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot09dh2.jpg)

Saukko

10-25-06, 06:03 PM

One of the crew members of the Japanese ship panics and launches an ASROC (anti-submarine rocket).
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9761/zipangscreenshot10fc4.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot10fc4.jpg)

Too close for comfort.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5240/zipangscreenshot11is1.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot11is1.jpg)

Parachute of the ASROC torpedo deploys
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3986/zipangscreenshot12yt8.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot12yt8.jpg)

They detect the sonar and try to evade, but then realizing that the sonar is from the torpedo.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3653/zipangscreenshot13xb2.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot13xb2.jpg)http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/701/zipangscreenshot14uf7.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot14uf7.jpg)http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/327/zipangscreenshot15dp6.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot15dp6.jpg)

This is going to hurt.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7672/zipangscreenshot16qg3.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot16qg3.jpg)

Torpedo is self-destructed before it hits but, the sub is damaged and surfaces.
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7540/zipangscreenshot17xr6.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot17xr6.jpg)http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1107/zipangscreenshot18be4.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot18be4.jpg)http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7916/zipangscreenshot19tu1.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zipangscreenshot19tu1.jpg)

This would be quite interesting mod. heh.

btw, I-52 was sunk in June 1944 by an aircraft dropped acoustic homing torpedo, after the aircraft had located the sub, first using radar, and then with sonobuoys. If Japanese side would be playable in SH4 that would make the late war careers very exciting, but short.

Respenus

10-29-06, 04:59 PM

Nice cartoon (if it can be called that)!

Where did you find those images?

Saukko

10-31-06, 12:11 PM

Where did you find those images?
I took some screenshots from my DVD, those are from first disk (first four episodes), the whole series is 26 episodes, or was it 24? I don't remember...

One question I forgot to ask. When that torpedo was chasing the sub, they heard the pings, even without any aid. Modern torpedoes use pings that you can hear?

Respenus

10-31-06, 02:25 PM

One question I forgot to ask. When that torpedo was chasing the sub, they heard the pings, even without any aid. Modern torpedoes use pings that you can hear?

Aren't all ping heard. It is sonar, you find out where the enemy is by the time it takes for the sound to return from when it hits the something. So it's a sound and sound are probably heard. But I'm not an expert!

rodan54

11-25-06, 04:37 AM

USS Pope taking fire from Myoko and Ashigara CA's.
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8349/dd225001ag4.jpg
B-25 bombing run.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/799/escort003zj2.jpg
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7609/cv8001gh7.jpg
Tone CA under air attack.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9794/tone001ah5.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3862/p39001jz6.jpg
Results of a Kamikaze attack.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6765/lst738001eu2.jpg

bill clarke

11-25-06, 08:19 PM

How do i post a picture here ?

Gino

11-25-06, 11:14 PM

Some topics that passed this thread:

First: Maarten Tromp did NOT have a broom on his mast. It was a 'cat with nine tongs' (whip, lash whatever you call it) It was meant to say that he whipped the English from the sea!

After the fourth Dutch-English war the English admiral (so insignificant I forgot his name) tied a broom on his mast to say:'I cleaned the dutch from the sea'

Second: Mine guards? Nope, propellor guards as already stated. Most of the boats during WW2 had them as a 'mount on' for manuevering in harbors. They didn't carry them, no room. But they were only meant to protect the props from damage. In the fifties the boats, that were not decommissioned got them permanently.

Third: for those that bought the Gato model from Revell. Look at the squares on the fairwater (that's where the conning tower is inside). They are NOT WW2, but fifties conversion holes, when 'updates' were built in the structure.

Pictures you say: what about these:

Battle logo USS Cod
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6871/usscodbattlelogogc6.jpg

Gun crew USS Cod
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1470/pdvd050od8.png

Cod Prop guards
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7410/codpropguardnowoo8.jpg

BATTLE SURFACE!!
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5534/pdvd008yy5.png

groetjes,

Frateloder

11-29-06, 12:18 AM

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5299/subkeysmallni1.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4219/subssmallmh1.jpg

Albrecht Von Hesse

11-29-06, 01:10 AM

http://www.hnsa.org/ships/torsk.htm

This submarine is in my home town of Baltimore. For you skinners out there, make this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:up::D

From one Baltimoron to another! ;)

Sailor Steve

11-29-06, 11:26 AM

How do i post a picture here ?
1) Go to a free hosting site. I use www.photobucket.com (http://www.photobucket.com)
2) Set up an account.
3) at the top of your page they have instructions for uploading pictures from your computer, or another site.
4) once the picture is uploaded there will be instructions beneath it for placing a link to the picture, for transferring the picture as a thumbnail and for doing a complete transfer. At photobucket you can just click on the one that says "IMG", then right-click and copy the link.
5) Right-click in the posting field here, and click "Paste"
6) Finish your post and enjoy your picture!:sunny:

rodan54

11-29-06, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
http://www.hnsa.org/ships/torsk.htm

This submarine is in my home town of Baltimore. For you skinners out there, make this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:up::D Heh, I think the devs already got it covered. Take another look at the developer diary. :up:

Frateloder

12-31-06, 07:55 AM

BUMP! ;)

Here's the USS Drum

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0822806.jpg

MadMike

12-31-06, 04:56 PM

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g30000/g33750.jpg

Yours, Mike

edjcox

01-01-07, 12:02 AM

Here you go

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7661/invasion2ga2.th.jpg http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6564/invasion1lf9.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=invasion1lf9.jpg)

and the other side

[img=http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7661/invasion2ga2.th.jpg] (http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=invasion2ga2.jpg) [img=http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6564/invasion1lf9.th.jpg] (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=invasion1lf9.jpg)

:arrgh!: