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Keelbuster
04-29-06, 06:14 PM
Patrol 6: Dec 1940 - Grid AL29

1550: Follow up on a radio report of a convoy headed East a 8kts. U-45 (VIIB) is right in her path. Sun is setting - orange, behind the convoy. We drift into her at 3kts, PD. I pop up the periscope to scan for targets and spot NELSON, right in the center of the convoy. She's surrounded by Large Cargos and Tankers, but they don't mean much with Nelson around. I set a perfect approach, and am not detected. I fire four torpedoes at the giant, 90 degrees to her portside. I lead with two T2s, set to her keel depth - one midway along the bow and one under her center tower. I follow up with two medium speed T1s, 6m depth, one aimed at the bow and one between the two T2s. They ALL HIT. The T2s make perfect keel shots, inflicting wicked damage. The T1s follow up and help to flood the bow area. I turn to fire the aft tube, but decide not to - she's probably dead meat as it is. I pass under the middle convoy lane and away out of the convoy. NOT DETECTED. I trail behind and watch Nelson take on plenty of water, stop and drop out of the convoy. She's not dead though. I come up to her at PD and give her the final Aft to just under her main tower and she blows. Boiler bursts. Nelson sinks.

Later that night i make a second attack and I hit 2 small tankers and one medium tanker. They are all good hits, but none sink. A small and the medium drop out of the convoy, and I escape undetected. Later yet, I charge the small tanker and engage with the deck gun. I have my way with her and she takes on a wicked list. Returning escorts don't find me, but force me to leave the area.

The medium has somehow regained speed and has rejoined the convoy. I surface and race past the escorts that are still circling the small tanker (about 6km back from the convoy). I come into the convoy through the back and attack the medium tanker with the deck gun (while the cats are out). It's mysteriously quiet - no escorts have closed on me and i have time to get off ~20 shots. Then all of the sudden a shell lands in the water right in front of the deck gun (that i'm manning). I flip and jump back to the bridge. There's a black swan frigate bearing down on us through the convoy, firing it's main guns. We swing the boat around and head back away from the convoy at flank. Two shells practically shave the hair off my watch officer and land inches from our bow; water spashes up onto the deck and conning tower. The Swan is gaining on us and we dive - as the decks run awash I see a flower corvette returning from the small tanker at flank. Sandwiched.

As soon as I'm below the surface I break right and go standard for thirty seconds. This fails to get me outside of the Swan's asdic window. She finds me and charges me. I order 25m, and flank, but she's lining up more or less on my course, set to run right over me. She crosses us on a 10 degree angle and scrapes her bottom on the stern. As she passes, she drops plenty of depth charges and launches several from the sides. It is a shower of DC. Miraculously though, they all miss. As the boat is tossed around here and there with every successive blast, I'm waiting for glass breaking and lights-out. But no damage - they were set DEEPER. PD saved us!

That was the closest call of the encounter. They made a few DC runs on us but nothing close and we managed to flank out of their radius. I return to the small tanker who is still burning, and doesn't seem to want to sink any further. I empty out the remaining deck guns into her, after which she's totally aflame. But she still won't sink. Evade upon escort's return, then line up for the final torp (two lefT). I fire at her engine room, but the first fish turns out to be a dud. I fire the second and it hits home, blows the bejesus out of the cow. All torps and DG shells spent - returning home. Nelson moans on the bottom...but that's what she gets for running at 8kts.

Kb

bill clarke
04-29-06, 07:37 PM
That's one sweet patrol buddy. :rock:

I torpedoed a large tanker and she kept on sailing, even though she was practically burning from stem to stern, this part of the damage model really needs working on.

andy_311
04-29-06, 07:44 PM
Cool what year and where I just encountered a TF 3 Nelsons .3 Cruisers and a **** load of DD's about 400 milwa NW of LE came within fireing range but the weather pissing it down and heavy fog fired a salvo blind and hit squat only know what was is in the TF because I got the external view enabled

clive bradbury
04-30-06, 07:25 AM
Cool what year and where I just encountered a TF 3 Nelsons .3 Cruisers and a poo poo load of DD's about 400 milwa NW of LE came within fireing range but the weather pissing it down and heavy fog fired a salvo blind and hit squat only know what was is in the TF because I got the external view enabled

shame they only built two...

Tonnage_Ace
04-30-06, 07:44 AM
Cool what year and where I just encountered a TF 3 Nelsons .3 Cruisers and a poo poo load of DD's about 400 milwa NW of LE came within fireing range but the weather pissing it down and heavy fog fired a salvo blind and hit squat only know what was is in the TF because I got the external view enabled

shame they only built two...
The British only built two Nelson Battleships? How many of each kind of BB were built?

Keelbuster
04-30-06, 11:33 AM
Cool what year and where I just encountered a TF 3 Nelsons .3 Cruisers and a poo poo load of DD's about 400 milwa NW of LE came within fireing range but the weather pissing it down and heavy fog fired a salvo blind and hit squat only know what was is in the TF because I got the external view enabled

Probably a dumb question - what's LE?

The British only built two Nelson Battleships? How many of each kind of BB were built?

Um - i dunno. But you can check it all out on Uboat.net. They have little segments on the ships of each class - you can see how many, and what happened to them. Awesome resource. You can lose a day or two there.

Kb

Sailor Steve
04-30-06, 03:21 PM
The British only built two Nelson Battleships? How many of each kind of BB were built?
WWI:
1 Dreadnought
3 Bellerophon
3 St. Vincent
1 Neptune
2 Colossus
4 Orion
4 King George V
4 Iron Duke
5 Queen Elizabeth (still around for WWII)
5 Revenge (still around for WWII-Royal Oak was one of these)

WWII:
2 Nelson
5 King George V
1 Vanguard

That's it.

Keelbuster
04-30-06, 04:10 PM
Probably a dumb question - what's LE?


Aah - Loch Ewe...

Tonnage_Ace
05-01-06, 04:53 AM
The British only built two Nelson Battleships? How many of each kind of BB were built?
WWI:
1 Dreadnought
3 Bellerophon
3 St. Vincent
1 Neptune
2 Colossus
4 Orion
4 King George V
4 Iron Duke
5 Queen Elizabeth (still around for WWII)
5 Revenge (still around for WWII-Royal Oak was one of these)

WWII:
2 Nelson
5 King George V
1 Vanguard

That's it.
Wow, only eight battleships were around in WWII? I suppose the navy brass started to see the battleship's days were numbered and that the aircraft carrier was going to replace them. What kind of ship was the Vanguard? It seems by the numbers of BBs in WWII built, that it may have been the biggest of the eight that were built. Anyone know what the last battleship to be built was? Or how many carriers were built during the war by Britain?

joea
05-01-06, 06:11 AM
No, Sailor Steve wrote the Queen Elisabeth class (modernised) were there for WWII, as the Revenge (non-modernised) too..so about 17 by my count. Sorry to be pendantic, but Nelson and Rodney were actually comissioned in 1927...and Vanguard was finished after the war, the RNs last BB. Gorgeous ship too..she actually used some left over 15" guns.

Karl-Heinz Jaeger
05-02-06, 07:43 AM
how many carriers were built during the war by Britain?

Not sure, but I do know that Britain had around 4 or 5 carriers at the outbreak, only one of which was purpose built. The others were converted from other ships.

:ping:

JSalinger
05-03-06, 01:49 AM
And then U-29 sunk Courageous off of Ireland, and (I think) Ark Royal was bombed to hell off of Malta (didn't make it the next time around, though)...add to that Audacity, the Eagle (sunk by the Germans) and the Hermes (sunk by the Japanese, I think), and Britain didn't fair too well...

joea
05-03-06, 05:35 AM
And then U-29 sunk Courageous off of Ireland, and (I think) Ark Royal was bombed to hell off of Malta (didn't make it the next time around, though)...add to that Audacity, the Eagle (sunk by the Germans) and the Hermes (sunk by the Japanese, I think), and Britain didn't fair too well...

Glorious was sunk by "Salmon and Gluckstein" (Scharnhorst and Gneisnau) and it was Illustrious hit at Malta, but she survived. Ark Royal was torpedoed and sunk by a u-boat (forget which one).

GreyOctober
05-03-06, 05:48 AM
That would be U81 i belive...

JSalinger
05-06-06, 03:20 PM
See, between all of us, we make great summarizers! LOL

bigboywooly
05-06-06, 05:09 PM
at the start of the war Britain had 4 carriers plus one old seaplane carrier from Australia plus 3 converted

they also had 3 built not yet commisioned

they went on to build another 13 before the end of the war

there were also 62 escort carriers most of which were former US carriers although 17 were merchantile conversions

oh and the dutch had 3 merchantile conversions too and the french had one that had been stripped to be a ferry lol was interned at start of war given to Free French and converted back into a carrier in 44 in the US

And all the above doesnt include the 36 US carriers and 121 escort carriers

As you can see the game is lacking somewhat in these juicy targets

bill clarke
05-06-06, 07:18 PM
[quote="bigboywooly"]at the start of the war Britain had 4 carriers plus one old seaplane carrier from Australia plus 3 converted


And that was HMAS Albatross, swapped to pay for HMAS Adelaide:

The RAN's first ship specifically designed to carry aircraft, HMAS Albatross, was built at Cockatoo Island Dockyard and commissioned in January 1929.

Initially there was no catapult, and the launch and recovery of her Seagull III aircraft required the use of the ship's crane.

After work-up, the Albatross joined the Fleet but the economic depression saw her paid off into Reserve in 1933, and used as an operating base for sea planes visiting Sydney Harbour.

After two years in Reserve, work began to bring Albatross back to operational status, including the fitting of a rotating aircraft catapult. Catapult trials in Sydney used new Seagull V seaplanes.

However, negotiations in 1938 led to an agreement to transfer ownership of the Albatross to the Royal Navy, as part payment for a new cruiser.

Albatross left Sydney on 11 July 1933, escorted by a flight of Seagull V amphibians.

The ship served as HMS Albatross until 1938, when she was placed in the RN reserve.

Statistics:
Commissioned: 23 January 1929
Displacement: 6,000 tons, full load
Aircraft: designed for 9 Seagull III amphibians
Crew: 32 officers and 310 ratings, plus 6 RAAF officers and 24 airmen
Engine: Two sets Parsons single reduction geared turbines, two shafts, 109,000 shp (max continuous)
Speed: 21 knots
Range: 12,150 miles at 10 knots
Transferred: to Royal Navy in 1933
Into RN Reserve: 1938

bigboywooly
05-06-06, 08:43 PM
thanx for that although she served as a harbour ship till 44 when pensioned off

very informative