Type IXC is a pig!!

[waste gate]

Well, I transfered to 10th Flotilla @ Lorient and picked up a type IXC.

Now I know why they called them 'pig boats'. After spending three game years in type VIIB/C boats with their agility and speed in the dive, I'll be transfering back to the type VII as soon as I return to Lorient.

Has anyone else had this experience or am I just spoiled?

[Ducimus]

Hey, dont talk that way about my baby!

You're just spoiled ;)

edit:

On a more serious note, you just have to approach IX boats with a different mindset. I prefer the faster diving, quicker turning VII's myself, but i always find myself back into an ix boat no matter how hard i try not to. Takes a certain kind of skipper maybe.

[Rosencrantz]

Well, I think VII has spoiled you. :) ´
But, just think how lucky you are... IN RL, skippers just couldn't change the boat if they thought one they have is a little bit slow in dive... :lol:

-RC-

[Ducimus]

As pigs go, the IXD2 REALLY takes the cake. if he thinks the IXC is bad, he should try an IXD2.. eeessshhh..

[Rosencrantz]

Hello Ducimus.

Same here. IX rules. Maybe it's just the size what matters... :lol: :-j

-RC-

[Sailor Steve]

Wait until SHIV. If it's as real as SHIII you're really going to hate the U.S Fleet boats. especially the Narwhal class. Makes a type IX feel like a sports car.

[Ducimus]

I think it has more to do with being that lone hunter in enemy home waters, far far far from home port or Europe for that matter.

You won't see too many VII boats in the caribean sinking tankers, or taking a trip to new york harbor, or south africa, or the indian ocean, or south america, etc etc. IX boats have the reach, and the punch, VII boat's don't.

If you love the idea of going to far off exotic places, and long epic voyages, IX boats all the way. If you dont want to be at sea for very long, and only shoot a couple of fish, then theres the VII boats.

It's kinda like that old joke about the old bull and the young pull sitting on a hill looking at a field of cows. To put it in a SH3 perspective, a VII skipper says, "lets run over there and sink a couple of those merchants!" The IX skipper says, "no, lets cruise over to where they're coming from and sink them all"

[Ducimus]

Wait until SHIV. If it's as real as SHIII you're really going to hate the U.S Fleet boats. especially the Narwhal class. Makes a type IX feel like a sports car.

I think thats one reason (of many) why i always end up in an IX boat. It's alot closer to being an a Gato Fleet boat then an VII. Although the gato is larger i think. The IXD2 is probably the closest semblance to a gato, although i dont have the specs infront of me, so i could be mistaken.

[waste gate]

OK, so I'm spoiled. But its no wonder that U-505 was captured so easily. Once on or near the surface your goose is cooked.

I thought the greater torpedo load would give me mor tonnage and the greater range would get me close to the U.S. coast, but since I'll be at the bottom long before I get a chance at either I'll be returning to Lorient B4 I get out of the Bisay Bay.


I'll make up agood excuse fo BdU

[Oleif]

I have the same sentiment about the IX. I got one for the first time a few patrols ago and over the entire patrol I felt completely vulnerable... needless to say i switch back to my trusted VII after that.

[Ducimus]

OK, so I'm spoiled. But its no wonder that U-505 was captured so easily. Once on or near the surface your goose is cooked.

Yeah, planes are dicey in an IX boat. If the plane is detected close i wont dive in time. So ill man the flak guns, go to flank speed, pull hard rudder. Once he make his first pass, i crash dive THEN sincet will be a little while before me makes a second run. If hes detected at any other range, ill crash drive and usually get under in time.


I thought the greater torpedo load would give me mor tonnage and the greater range would get me close to the U.S. coast,

It will, i am .. MR drumbeat. I know those waters REALLY well. :smug:

but since I'll be at the bottom long before I get a chance

You wont, if you captain your boat correctly. If you treat an IX boat like a VII boat you'll get sunk yes. When leaving "death valley" and also in your operating area, you should be submerged by day and half of the night. I run my bats down to 40% and CO2 to 50% before i surface. I usually surface at 0 hour and dive at 0500. That time period is long enogh to recharge my bats and then some.

IX boats are about long trips. Once you clear biscay bay, at 8 kt's it takes bout 20 to 25 days to cross the atlantic on the surface. Mid atlantic you ahve nothing to worry about. Once you get near the US east coast you should be submerged most of the time. Same for returning, once you get near biscay bay, you should be submerged most of the time. ANd for christ's sakes, LEAVE THAT DAMN RADAR OFF once you get to 1943 anywhere near or around biscay. I have twice been nailed by an HK group that homed on me like a bee to honey.. left my damn radar on :roll:

[Rosencrantz]

Well, Gato is about 2500 tons in submerged I think while IXD2 is about 1200. Could chek that but too lazy...

But what Ducimus wrote is the point for me too. You really don't expect the wolfpacks if with IX and somehow I feel there is something common between the larger US boats and IX... Don't know what's it really...

-RC-

[Ducimus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gato_class_submarine

http://uboat.net/types/ixd.htm


Id venture to guess that some people wont make the transition from SH3 to SH4 very well :P

[Rosencrantz]

Oh, it's 1800 - 2000 tons (IXD2).

Well, seven and half to VII and twenty five to gato... That's nice.
Well, anyway, after 5 - 7 years after playing SH it's good to meet the Gato ago... Allmost can't wait. :up:

[Ducimus]

yeah if you look closely the IXD2 is only *slighly* smaller then a gato.

I think i might abandon my current career and restart with an IXD2. I havent used one in awhile. I just need to find the numbers used on the "NASA fix", so i can get its range correct.

edit: found undewater range fix numbers (40 @ 4kt) ...sweet. Now if i can just stop playing oblivion, i might get this pig underway :P

[CCIP]

Yep, you're spoiled :yep:

I'm a IX skipper at heart, and I wouldn't trade these boats for anything. :up:

Sure they're a little sluggish underwater. But that makes them more of a challenge. And their torpedo stores, surface performance and range more than make up for whatever deficiencies they have.

[Ducimus]

CCIP! YOU!!

Im going to beat your patrol!

From your patrol log at wolves at war:
346 days at sea, 15 ships for 74,891gr.t. sunk, 7 aircraft shot down

If that was on ONE patrol I AM GOING TO BEAT THAT! Time wise anyway, i can't garuntee ill beat the tonnage. But i am going to try and set a record for the longest patrol :D Did you use a milk cow or not?


EDIT: oh bah, you stopped in penang. I thought 346 days in one go was a bit exteme. Still, im going to try and set the record for the longest single patrol. :D

[waste gate]

Different mind set. Stealth? I don't know, usually I tally 50k+ in the tonnage in my type VIIs.. I enjoy the hit'em and leaving guessing.

When in high scool I ran the 40 yard dash in 4.5 seconds and I drive a turbo charged automobile today(I like speed). If patients is a virtue, and seersucker is a fabric, then I guess I don't have what it takes to be a type IX skipper.

Thank you all for your replies and
'sink them all'

waste gate

[CCIP]

CCIP! YOU!!

Im going to beat your patrol!

From your patrol log at wolves at war:
346 days at sea, 15 ships for 74,891gr.t. sunk, 7 aircraft shot down

If that was on ONE patrol I AM GOING TO BEAT THAT! Time wise anyway, i can't garuntee ill beat the tonnage. But i am going to try and set a record for the longest patrol :D Did you use a milk cow or not?


EDIT: oh bah, you stopped in penang. I thought 346 days in one go was a bit exteme. Still, im going to try and set the record for the longest single patrol. :D

No, that was actually from a couple of patrols - I only sank about 40,000 on that patrol, and spent 271 days at sea (with 3 stops in between).

The longest single stretch of that cruise was over 100 days.

It's still the longest successful WaW patrol though :|\

[Ducimus]

100 days?
i can beat that easily :D Hell, ive racked up quite a few 80-88 day patrol in an IXC (although i was sucking fumes when i pulled into lorient). So im pretty sure i can do well over 100 days in an IXD2. Ive got me a new challenge in this game. :D



waste gate,

Yeah i suppose you need a fair ammount of patience for an IX boat. Long transits, and constant submerge/surface routines can be tedious.

[Heibges]

I went on a 135 day patrol to Capetown and back without stopping and refueling.

[Ducimus]

I went on a 135 day patrol to Capetown and back without stopping and refueling.

Longest patrol ever was made by Eitel-Friedrich Kentrat in U-196. On his first patrol in that boat, he was at sea for 225 days. His second patrol in that boat was also longer then 5 months.

Now, he had to have used a milk cow. I find it hard to believe he didn't. Even if they ate canned food, theres no way provisions on board would have lasted that long.

Now the question is, for my intents and purposes, do we allow the use of a milk cow or not? I'm thinking no milk cows :D

[kiwi_2005]

Men that are not afraid to die command a IX boat :P

The IXD2 are my favourite yes very slow in dive time, this is why i usually stay on the surface when a aircraft is spotted its flank speed and zigzag, and flak gunners going like crazy to shoot her down.

[kiwi_2005]

Longest patrol ever was made by Eitel-Friedrich Kentrat in U-196. On his first patrol in that boat, he was at sea for 225 days. His second patrol in that boat was also longer then 5 months.

Another long patrol (Left Kiel in May 1944) in a IX U boat was U 862 Commander Heinrich Timm. (over the course of two operation patrols and twelve months) U862 travel further from home than any other German U-boat of the Second World War. She sailed to Australian & later New Zealand waters . Along the way she sunk 7 merchant ships, shot down 2 aircaft and was indirectly responsible for the loss of two others when elsewhere the average exchange rate was two U-boats lost for each Aliied ship sunk.

[Hartmann]

I think that IX boats need different tactics and strategies than other smaller boats.

The danger from aircrafts could be solved with submerged at day or using the snorchel at night


I´m very happy with the IX boats because i played a lot with SH1 in the pacific scenario with american subs like gato and balao.and i think that are similar in speed, size,and torpedo load. :up:

[mike_espo]

Love the IX boats :up: :yep:

Being a Chicago boy, I have the opportunity to visit U-505 a number of times. Definately, my favorite boat. Trully a war machine. I also visited the USS Pampanito, a Gato, much larger that the U-505, felt like being in a jumbo jet.... I Much like the U-505 better!

The type IX is faster on the surface than the type VII. I also like the larger crew, more fun to manage.

[Steve Gad]

Well, I transfered to 10th Flotilla @ Lorient and picked up a type IXC.

Now I know why they called them 'pig boats'. After spending three game years in type VIIB/C boats with their agility and speed in the dive, I'll be transfering back to the type VII as soon as I return to Lorient.

Has anyone else had this experience or am I just spoiled?

I used to feel that way but I wouldn't trade my 9c - with the cool paint job - for any other boat.
Matter of taste I guess. :salute:

[bstanko6]

I love the type 9. I've been to the US coast many times. You are right. She is slow, I put the pig emblem on the conning tower just for that reason. But understand, she had a different mission. She was not meant to be a convoy killer, so she is not fast and manueverable.

I toast my fellow type 9 skippers!

[BigWalleye]

Wow! Necro on an 11-year-old thread. Is this a record?

[Kendras]

Wow! Necro on an 11-year-old thread. Is this a record?

:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[Gargamel]

-1.25 points for this. (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=193765)

1 point to Big Walley