First U.S. Moon landing real or fake?

[gdogghenrikson]

my friend and I were discussing this one

[TLAM Strike]

All the Apollo flights were observed by thousands of average citizens with normal telescopes in their backyards. The damage (O2 venting) to #13 was even observed. Yes the flights really happened. :yep:

EDIT: Laser reflectors were placed by the crews on the moon that still help mesure its distance today IIRC. Also sismographs placed by prevous missions detected the colision of #13's IVB stage on the moon. :know:

[Abraham]

Must have been real. Back in the '70s I saw the launches on TV!
:D

[Torplexed]

The moon hoax conspiracy kooks never explain what America's Cold War rival the Soviet Union was doing in on the con. They sent several unmanned Luna and Zond probes up in the early 1970s. They brought back moon rocks geologically compatable with the ones the astronaunts returned with. Pictures looked a lot the same too. They also never explain why it was neccessary to include a 'failed' mission like Apollo 13 in the grand hoax.

Picture of Lunokhod 1 rover leaving lander October 1971....

http://pages.preferred.com/%7Etedstryk/lk104.JPG

[Abraham]

I clearly remember a rocket going up and a few days later its nose cone dropping in the ocean.
Who needs more proof...

[Torplexed]

The woo-woo conspiracy types would claim you staged the take-off and splash-down with fake footage filmed on a movie set inbetween. Ever see the 1977 movie Capricorn One where a corrupt NASA adminstration fakes a Mars landing because it was beyond their technical means? ;)

[Abraham]

So you mean they shoot a rocket with some astronauts on board in the general direction of the moon. They circle the moon but don't land. NASA shoots footage of the astronauts in a studio, pretending to be walking on the moon. A few days later the nose cone splashes back into the ocean and there you have your fake moon landing?
So the astronauts did at least circkle the moon, or were they not in the capsule during launch?

And you repeat that over and over again...?

Sounds like a big waist to me.
:D

P.S.
Let me guess; all the (hundreds of) participants were sworn to secrecy, all the footage is destroyed, etc....
Right?

[Torplexed]

You just summed it up in a nutshell Abraham. :cool:

One example: Back in 2001 Fox aired a program called 'Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?'', hosted by X-Files actor Mitch Pileggi. The program was an hour long, and featured interviews with a series of people who believe that NASA faked the Apollo Moon landings in the 1960s and 1970s. The biggest voice in this is Bill Kaysing, who claims to have all sorts of hoax evidence, including pictures taken by the astronauts, engineering details, discussions of physics and even some testimony by astronauts themselves. The program's conclusion was that the whole thing was faked in the Nevada desert (in Area 51, of course!). According to them, NASA did not have the technical capability of going to the Moon, but pressure due to the Cold War with the Soviet Union forced them to fake it.

Remember...these people have books and videos to sell. They'll push any amount of bad science to do it. ;)

[Theta Sigma]

There are certain things, like the moon landing, JFK and most recently, Flight 93, which have aspects that can be attributed to other causes, or explained by other theories.

Of course, that doesn't mean they're true. Life is like that. Just because no one hears a tree fall in the forest doesn't mean it didn't fall.

Unfortunately, the landings are one of those. The "faked" theory has legs because it would have been easier to fake, and would have looked just as beliveable. Combine that with the fact that the Russians were planning to beat us there, and it begins to become quite plausible. However, that same pressure can explain the developments needed to actually get us there too.

The moon landings were a first for mankind, but we had successfully accomplished space travel already. As such, the moon landings were not that unbeliveable.

So, I believe they happened, but I also believe that there could very well have been such a "Capricorn One" type plan waiting in the wings had the technology not been there in time.

I'm glad they pulled it off. I wouldn't want Buzz pulling his punches. :lol:

[micky1up]

i have no doubt that thousands of people watched rockets go up in the air but there far to many anomollies in the pictures taken on the so called landings my fav being 2 landscapes supposedly being from differnt landing areas being exactly the same and the pictue of the astronaught that overlaps the scaling grid that is on the lens of the camera which is an imposibility it was a great bt of propoganda that stopped the russians trying and saved billions on acctually going there

[Skybird]

Just imagine what Philip K. Dick would made of this! :D

[Skybird]

But there is a kind of contradiction here. It is argued that thousands of people having seen this or that cannot be wrong. Now think of UFOs, radar operators in towers, highly skilled personnell, I mean, those famous 5% or less of sightings that so far noone ever has explained as an atmopheric or otherwise natural phenomenon. Sometimes also thousands of people have seen this event, that sighting, or technicians were able to cinfirm that the radar of that time was fully functional when displaying some kind of strange anomnalies or flight maneuvers no man-made craft ever would be able to perform. The radar sightings often get wiped of the tables as "weather ballons". Weather ballons doing 7000 km/h, and abruptly changing colurse by 90, 130, 180 degrees? Or thiousands may have shared sightings of light symptoms in the air, performing in a comparable fashion: usually here is the talk of military missile exercises, or unknown aTMOSPHERIC WEATHER PHENOMENONS; FAR AWAY BLIZZARDS OR gas from swamps going of in fire.

what I mean is, the argument that "thousands have seen this or that" in case of the moon landing is given that the moon flights took place. In case of UFOs it is wiped off the table.

Imagine the moon flights had been a hoax. then Apollo 13 might have been introduced becasue of the increased realism of a scenario where technology fails.(someone asked for this above).

I personally do not believe the moon flights had been a fake. I do think that a very small percentage of UFO sightings is something true, but that it probably is not of that Hollywood-style nature and origin than UFOlogists usually believe. And they believe very hysterically sometimes, don't they.

[Torplexed]

i have no doubt that thousands of people watched rockets go up in the air but there far to many anomollies in the pictures taken on the so called landings my fav being 2 landscapes supposedly being from differnt landing areas being exactly the same and the pictue of the astronaught that overlaps the scaling grid that is on the lens of the camera which is an imposibility it was a great bt of propoganda that stopped the russians trying and saved billions on acctually going there

http://users.erols.com/igoddard/croshair.jpg
Question: why do crosshairs and scaling grids appear behind sunlit white objects on the moon?

http://users.erols.com/igoddard/lensline.jpg
Answer: Strong luminosity can washout thin lines.
Test: Hair across lens is washed out by sunlit white paper.
With no atmosphere on the Moon, sunlight is stronger.

In this test a strand of hair was taped across a camcorder lens, which was then pointed at a sunlit white paper. While the test failed to vanish the hair-line completely, it demonstrates that diffuse solar reflection on a white surface can wash out a thin line. This result is sufficient to render the phenomenon of crosshair vanishing over sunlit white objects not anomalous. Also reflective intensity and thus crosshair-knockout potential would be greater on the Moon with no atmosphere to reduce solar intensity.

[STEED]

Another old chestnut did they land on the moon or not this will go on for years. Sorry to say I am with Homer Simpson on this one “Quick change the channel.� I am not interested one bit. :P

[Type941]

it didn't happen.

What was the question? :88)

[Onkel Neal]

The real conspiracy is... the US never left. We've been terraforming the moon for 26 years. What you see at night is a holograph projected by a satellite. In another 20, all US citizens will be eligible to live there and escape the coming global warming catastrophe. :know:

I got me a nice little spread by the rim of the South Pole-Aitken basin. Y'all come visit, ya hear?

[Torplexed]

The real conspiracy is NASA hids the existence of the Moon Babes so Neal can have them to himself. Houston...we have no problem. ;)

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/MoonWimmen.jpg

[Subnuts]

It's all a fake! And I have the reasons why! :o

-35 years ago, I read in a textbook from 1959 that the Van Halen Belts contained deadly radiation that would kill anything in them.
-I heard on a TV show that rendezvous in orbit is hard. So they couldn't have done it, unless they climbed up to the command module from the rope that was hanging out of it.
-If Apollo 13 really exploded, the astronauts would have died.
-It's 250 degrees on the Moon, so the astronauts would melt. This is also why NASA is covering up liquid water on the Moon, since its wicked witch-like astronauts would obviously melt from the water.
-My Uncle Betty says that his aunt's cousin's wife's roommate’s former acquaintance said that he didn't think we landed on the Moon.
-Neil Armstrong didn't fly all the missions.
-Nixon had Kennedy shot by Castro because he knew that we couldn't land on the Moon. Nixon was elected president the next day.
-On Apollo 10, the booster "POGO"ed. But the pogo stick was invented in 1919, so they should have been able to solve this problem.
-On Apollo 9 the rocket was hit by lightning 8 times. But everyone knows that thunder is faster than lightning, so the astronauts would have heard thunder before the lightning hit.
-On the Moon, there's no air to support combustion. Therefore, the lunar rover couldn't go.
-Once I weighted a feather and dropped it and it dropped just as fast as a hammer, proving that the experiment from Apollo 22 was faked.
-Oxygen turns into a different kind of oxygen when it leaves the Earth's atmosphere, so you couldn't breathe it.
-Russian rockets don't fall over because they're wider at the bottom.
-Someone told me once that the lunar module should have created a crater underneath it. But someone else told me it didn't. So it couldn't have landed.
-The Apollo Conical Space Capsule (tm) couldn't have carried enough fuel to continuously fire the engine for all two weeks of the mission.
-The Apollo Conical Space Capsule (tm) was 13 feet wide. The parachutes were 80 feet wide.
-The rocket couldn't have flown because as everyone knows, tall things tend to tip over, and the moment the tower released it the rocket would have fallen on it's side. That's why the space shuttle is so big and fat - it's more stable.
-The technology was so bad back then they couldn't even figure out how to put microphones in the helmets. That's why they used gold foil to cover the face, as the pictures and movies are of stunt doubles. The real astronauts were off to the side recording
-There is no Sun on the Moon, otherwise the sky wouldn't appear to be black.
-There isn't any gravity on the Moon, so time would stop flowing and create an oxbow lake.
-There's no air in space to hold the dust grains on the lunar surface apart, so it should have compacted into a hard, rough, hard material.
-There's no gas on the Moon, so the astronauts would have had no way to refuel the rover.
-There's nothing for rockets to push against in space. I tried jumping in midair but I couldn't, proving that rockets couldn't move in space.
-Tom Hanks was able to fake it. I couldn't tell the difference.
-We never landed on the moon because Tony's mom said "there's an goddamned man down there at the water cooler who says NASA never landed on the Moon. Everyone was talking about it ... I just didn't know what to say!"

[Onkel Neal]

-Tom Hanks was able to fake it. I couldn't tell the difference.!

Lol, good point, he also faked Normany and had me fooled until the part about "sticky bombs". :-j

[Skybird]

Anyone remembering "Capricorn One"? :)

[Torplexed]

Yep...I mentioned it six posts down. :cool:

A site that has convinced me beyond all shadow of a doubt the Apollo skeptics are right... ;)

http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm

[micky1up]

@torp in your picture i can still see the hair its not completely gone is it and the scaling mark on the lens is much thincker than a strand of hair my friend

[Torplexed]

Hey! I'm on your side now. The moon landings were a complete fraud. No need to convince me further. :cool:

I still believe in Moon Babes tho....

[Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense]

heeeyyy!!! it was on teeeeveeeeeeeee!!!! it had to be real :yep:

--Mike

[Sailor Steve]

An addendum to Torplexed's first post, about the Soviet Union: not only were they sending unmanned vehicles to the moon, but they certainly had the technology to watch ours. If we had faked it, they would have been shouting it to the world in a heartbeat.

[micky1up]

thats not how the cold war worked my friend many things where kept quiet on both side's and many deals done behind closed doors just consider this if it where true then they went to the moon with less computing power than todays calculators have it was truly faked with the best of intentions that was not to waste a god damn fortune acctually doing it

[Skybird]

Yep...I mentioned it six posts down. :cool:

A site that has convinced me beyond all shadow of a doubt the Apollo skeptics are right... ;)

http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm

I better stop that fastreading stuff... Credits to you ;)

[Torplexed]

Yep...I mentioned it six posts down. :cool:

A site that has convinced me beyond all shadow of a doubt the Apollo skeptics are right... ;)

http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm

I better stop that fastreading stuff... Credits to you ;)

Actually the scariest thing about that movie (Capricorn One) was it had OJ Simpson in a starring role. :D

I guess we can wait until Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter departs for the moon in a couple years. That orbiter will have high resolution cameras and it's slated to photograph the landing sites. I don't think it'll be able to resolve footprints except perhaps under certain lighting conditions but it will be able to see many Apollo artifacts such as the descent module.

Of course, the hoaxers will believe its all faked but there is no convincing some people. It reminds me of what happened when the Mars Global Surveyer took high resolution images of the "face" on Mars, proving it was just an eroded mountain. The true believers couldn't accept that and kept dragging out the same over-processed low resolution images with their precious "face." Then there was another claim NASA had nuked it from orbit to prevent us from knowing alien civilizations are real.

Aliens are real. I've seen the Moon Babes!

[DeepSix]

...
Aliens are real. I've seen the Moon Babes!

I hope they conquer us soon. :yep:

:D

[Torplexed]

I hope they conquer us soon. :yep:

:D

Me too...but hopefully not until after SH4 comes out. ;) Wanna get a few patrols in.

[TLAM Strike]

With my luck they will all turn out to be lesbians and just come here to take our women…

:lol:

[Sulikate]

With my luck they will all turn out to be lesbians and just come here to take our women…

:lol:

lol :rotfl: , I really hope they don't.

Anway, what is the explanation for the waving USA flag? AFAIK, there isn't wind in the space. (Not that I don't believe, but it is an interesting question).

[TLAM Strike]

Anway, what is the explanation for the waving USA flag? AFAIK, there isn't wind in the space. (Not that I don't believe, but it is an interesting question). The astronauts just took their hands off it leaving it still shaking kind of like a radio antenna on a car when you mess with it.

[The Avon Lady]

Anway, what is the explanation for the waving USA flag? AFAIK, there isn't wind in the space. (Not that I don't believe, but it is an interesting question). The astronauts just took their hands off it leaving it still shaking kind of like a radio antenna on a car when you mess with it.
Look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations#Mechanical_is sues), at item 5, along with pics.

I can't believe it's 2006 and people are still discussing this.

[kiwi_2005]

Because of Armstrong and the rest of the crew, we know Aliens in space exist. In a documentary i saw on sky a few years back they interviewed Armstrong and other astronauts about aliens, they all admitted on televion that when they are above the earth they witness alot of UFO flying around, there were many of them. And there always are, every space flight you can garrantee they're see UFO's flying around. They were told to keep it zipped, until now they are speaking about it because UFO's are no longer a big deal anymore. But imagine if they came forward and said it back then.

[mapuc]

I think that the american or whoever, has been on the moon, the are fotsteps in my garden.

Markus

[joea]

I think that the american or whoever, has been on the moon, the are fotsteps in my garden.

Markus

:88) que?

[TLAM Strike]

I can't believe it's 2006 and people are still discussing this. I'm glad people are discussing this! Keep intrest in the space program alive! :up:

[Torplexed]

I can't believe it's 2006 and people are still discussing this.

Actually I think 2006 is part of the problem. It's been 34 years since a human being walked on the moon. I think people are starting to have a hard time believing we ever went.

[STEED]

we know Aliens in space exist.

Don't mess with this one

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/491/alien0yt.jpg


"Ripley"

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7219/7642small8ox.jpg

That was close we're all saved.

[TteFAboB]

You could make people believe the Earth was flat back in the day, remember? You can make people believe into anything, Irvin Yalom selling "When Nietzsche Wept" as phisosophy when it belongs to the trash bin, I mean, the entertainment pile. You can make people believe the landing was real even if it was false and vice-versa, and if the landings were fake, there would be a conspiracy to prove they were real, there will always be a conspiracy attempting to prove some event actually happened the other way around.

I think it takes less creativity to send 3 blokes to the closest rock to the Earth than proving Walker Bush was behind 9/11.

[TLAM Strike]

I was watching a tape of the moon landing during an Ion Storm the other night and I saw something strange.
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/9195/terranempiremoonlanding2xt.jpg
I think that’s Buzz Aldrin with a goatee, and I have a feeling that Neal Armstrong met with an unfortunate accident.
:lol:

[Kresge]

Whether we went to the moon or not it certainly helped develop a lot of new technology and funneled massive amounts of tax dollars back into the pockets of American workers and companies; especially skilled workers. We could probably use another project like that before everything but service jobs disappear. I also see it as something that helped unite many Americans in a common belief/goal and one that was not based on excluding certain groups from something or inflicting one group's standards and rules on everybody else.


I do have a nice piece of moon landing memorablia. My grandfather was a technical writer after retiring from the Air Force and worked on the manuals for the Saturn V rockets. He has a 6 inch thick volume sitting on the coffee table.

[mapuc]

Here's a real ALIEN

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Osama-med.jpg

Markus

[Sea Demon]

and had me fooled until the part about "sticky bombs". :-j

Ooh....Sticky Bombs. They sell those down at the Sunrise Mall. I love the ones with cinnamon and frosting. :P

[Konovalov]

It was real and I have always believed so. I've yet to find any reasonable argument to find otherwise. But I'm always open to being entertained by any conspiracy theories that people might have.

[micky1up]

acctually the boom in science came after 1947 and the benefits from roswell have moved mankind along very well indeed

[STEED]

Please not Roswell your next be saying you know all about Area51. :zzz:

[The Avon Lady]

All your base are belong to us!

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7130/51lvtvnewsprayer3hx.jpg

[STEED]

:rotfl: :rotfl:

[gdogghenrikson]

I can't believe it's 2006 and people are still discussing this. I'm glad people are discussing this! Keep intrest in the space program alive! :up:

oh great look what I started :lol:

[STEED]

http://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/b140.gifhttp://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/v24.gif

[TLAM Strike]

The only reason we went to the Moon is because we thought aliens looked like this back in the 1960's!
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/8515/tos45le.jpg
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7933/tos743wq.jpg
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2456/tos177yy.jpg
Oh well at least we didn't find anyone who would steal your brain.
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7019/tos617qb.jpg

[STEED]

Of course they did look at those bright colours hey I need my sunglasses. Where are my sunglasses are here they are that's better warp factor 8.

[Wim Libaers]

It was real and I have always believed so. I've yet to find any reasonable argument to find otherwise. But I'm always open to being entertained by any conspiracy theories that people might have.

http://www.google.com/search?q=richard+hoagland
Face on Mars, moon landings, and more. The interesting thing about this guy is that he doesn't claim the moon landings were faked, he argues that they did happen. But, according to him, they changed the pictures to hide the huge alien buildings they found there. A nice change from the usual crowd of Apollo deniers.

[Torplexed]

The only reason we went to the Moon is because we thought aliens looked like this back in the 1960's!
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/8515/tos45le.jpg

Kirk had sex with all these women. :yep:

[DeepSix]

Speaking of babes from the 60s... If I get a Moon Babe that looks like this I won't complain.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/barbara_eden06.jpg

I mean, it worked for Larry Hagman.... :yep:

[TLAM Strike]

The only reason we went to the Moon is because we thought aliens looked like this back in the 1960's!
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/8515/tos45le.jpg

Kirk had sex with all these women. :yep:

Who didn't he have sex with! :rotfl:

[Theta Sigma]

http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/images/7/7a/M_113_Creature.jpg

He had to draw a line somewhere.... ;)

[TLAM Strike]

Yea the M-113 Creature had standards... ;)

[Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense]

Spock... Spooock... did you hear what they just said...

Yes Captain... quite illogical...

Well, ya green blooded Vulcan... did ya look closely at some of those lil nodules... if i weren't a doctor, i would definitely say that some of em had more than a passing resemblence to our revered Captain...


live long and prosper!!!


--Mike

[Torplexed]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/barbara_eden06.jpg

I Dream of Barbara Eden. :D

[TLAM Strike]

http://stiivryan.home.mindspring.com/trektune2.htm

I've been listening to these recently and it makes TOS appear in a whole new light. 'Man to Man' is a must listen too considering the direction this thread is going...

[DeepSix]

@Torplexed: Y'know, maybe this whole human cloning thing ain't so bad after all.... :hmm:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/PocketPlane/eden04.jpg

[JJ]

Oh, the times when women still looked like women instead of walking skeletons

:sunny:

[StdDev]

The only reason we went to the Moon is because we thought aliens looked like this back in the 1960's!

But now we all know that aliens actually look like :
http://www.sfvsf.org/images/kengikods.gif

[Abraham]

Yea the M-113 Creature had standards... ;)
M113 standards:
Date Introduced: 1960
Curb Weight (lbs): 20,310
Combat Weight (lbs): 23,520
Top Speed (mph): 37
Cruising Range (miles): 200
Engine Type: Gasoline
Engine HP: 209
HP/Tons: 17.8
Acceleration (0-20 mph) sec.: 12.0
Turning Radius (in): 276
Trench Crossing (in): 66
Slope (%): 60
Side Slope (%): 30
Braking (ft): 40
Ground Pressure (psi): 8.6

M113A3 standards:
Date Introduced: 1987
Curb Weight (lbs): 23,575
Combat Weight (lbs): 27,000
Top Speed (mph): 41
Cruising Range (miles): 300
Engine Type: Diesel
Engine HP: 275
HP/Tons: 20.4
Acceleration (0-20 mph) sec.: 7.8
Turning Radius: Pivot
Trench Crossing (in): 66
Slope (%): 60
Side Slope (%): 30
Braking (ft): 27
Ground Pressure (psi): 8.6

[Etienne]

I can't believe this thread has gone on for so long without anyone linking to Phil Blait's site. So here.

www.badastronomy.com

[DeepSix]

Oh, the times when women still looked like women instead of walking skeletons

:sunny:

:yep: :yep:

[August]

Yea the M-113 Creature had standards... ;)
M113 standards:
Date Introduced: 1960
Curb Weight (lbs): 20,310
Combat Weight (lbs): 23,520
Top Speed (mph): 37
Cruising Range (miles): 200
Engine Type: Gasoline
Engine HP: 209
HP/Tons: 17.8
Acceleration (0-20 mph) sec.: 12.0
Turning Radius (in): 276
Trench Crossing (in): 66
Slope (%): 60
Side Slope (%): 30
Braking (ft): 40
Ground Pressure (psi): 8.6

M113A3 standards:
Date Introduced: 1987
Curb Weight (lbs): 23,575
Combat Weight (lbs): 27,000
Top Speed (mph): 41
Cruising Range (miles): 300
Engine Type: Diesel
Engine HP: 275
HP/Tons: 20.4
Acceleration (0-20 mph) sec.: 7.8
Turning Radius: Pivot
Trench Crossing (in): 66
Slope (%): 60
Side Slope (%): 30
Braking (ft): 27
Ground Pressure (psi): 8.6

I drove one for 3 years. You could easily get those things up to 50mph, especially on the convoy back to garrison.

[Abraham]

I drove one for 3 years. You could easily get those things up to 50mph, especially on the convoy back to garrison.
An M113 or an M 113A3?
And don't tell me that you got tickets for speeding...
:D

[August]

I drove one for 3 years. You could easily get those things up to 50mph, especially on the convoy back to garrison.
An M113 or an M 113A3?
And don't tell me that you got tickets for speeding...
:D

Actually an M113A1 mostly although we did get some A2's late in my tour.

Not even the feared German Polizei tries to stop a convoy of tanks and APC's on it's way home from the field. The smell alone would incapacitate them...

[Sulikate]

I can't believe it's 2006 and people are still discussing this.

Actually I think 2006 is part of the problem. It's been 34 years since a human being walked on the moon. I think people are starting to have a hard time believing we ever went.

Thats right. I believe it is so extraordinary that people are having a hard time indeed.

[SUBMAN1]

WHoaa! Old thread!

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I reckon this is Abraham screwing with us from above.

*shakes fist* Go on, get! :up:

[SUBMAN1]

Exactly. Why did this thread come to the front with no recent posts? Weird!!! :D

Maybe Abraham found out it really was a fake! :p

-S

[STEED]

Someone voted and bobs your uncle yet another thread bought back to life, time to cap these polls with a time limit I say. :damn:

[geetrue]

It was fun to see Abraham being himself again ... :up:

There is no time or distance in the spirit world ... :know:

[JSLTIGER]

Yet another long-dead thread resurrected...I wonder who's behind it!:hmm:

[Konovalov]

Is it possible someone voted in the poll to bump it to the front page? :hmm:

[STEED]

Yet another long-dead thread resurrected...I wonder who's behind it!:hmm:Is it possible someone voted in the poll to bump it to the front page? :hmm:

I beat to it. :p
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=776056&postcount=77

[August]

I have sometimes wondered what is the etymology of the phrase "Bobs your uncle"?

[sunvalleyslim]

Yet another long-dead thread resurrected...I wonder who's behind it!:hmm:Is it possible someone voted in the poll to bump it to the front page? :hmm:
I beat to it. :p
htt (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=776056&postcount=77)
p://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=776056&postcount=77 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=776056&postcount=77)

I think you're right on this, Steed

[STEED]

I have sometimes wondered what is the etymology of the phrase "Bobs your uncle"?

It means.........

There you have it.

Ticker 't` boo.

Yep.

Spot on.

Right.

[Camaero]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mQKxAqpjroo

Me and Buzz punch people in the face for this kind of talk. :arrgh!:

[STEED]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mQKxAqpjroo

Me and Buzz punch people in the face for this kind of talk. :arrgh!:

BOO no fare I'm not a member. Don't really care as I have seen it a long time ago. ;)

[Jimbuna]

Another exhumation http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9206/nofemaleqj9.gif

[August]

I have sometimes wondered what is the etymology of the phrase "Bobs your uncle"?
It means.........

There you have it.

Ticker 't` boo.

Yep.

Spot on.

Right.

Yeah i know what it means, i was just wondering how it originated.

Sort of like the phrase: "Devil to pay" which according to author Patrick O'Brian originally referred to caulking (paying) the outermost deck plank (the devil) that joins the main deck to the hull of a ship. The original quote: "There's a devil to pay and no pitch hot".

[STEED]

Sorry miss read your post August, wake up STEED. :damn:

One example.


Etymology

In 1887, British Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, Marquess of Salisbury, appointed his nephew Arthur James Balfour as Minister for Ireland. The press had a field day when he referred to the Prime Minister as “Uncle Bob”. Balfour later went on to become Prime Minister himself. This theory claims that to have "Bob" as one's uncle is a guarantee of success, hence the implied meaning, "and if you do this, you cannot fail." Another theory is that the phrase derives from the slang "all is bob", which means "everything is good".

[August]

Sorry miss read your post August, wake up STEED. :damn:

One example.


Etymology

In 1887, British Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, Marquess of Salisbury, appointed his nephew Arthur James Balfour as Minister for Ireland. The press had a field day when he referred to the Prime Minister as “Uncle Bob”. Balfour later went on to become Prime Minister himself. This theory claims that to have "Bob" as one's uncle is a guarantee of success, hence the implied meaning, "and if you do this, you cannot fail." Another theory is that the phrase derives from the slang "all is bob", which means "everything is good".

Many thanks! You made my day Steed

[silentrunner]

Why is this thread on the front page. It's allmost two years old. Why would anyone take the time to find it??:doh:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Why is this thread on the front page. It's allmost two years old. Why would anyone take the time to find it??:doh:


Either someone's got too much time or the server is performing zombie voodoo :huh:

[JSLTIGER]

Another exhumation http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9206/nofemaleqj9.gif

I scrolled past this and the only thing that ran through my head was Amy Winehouse's:

"They tried to make me go to rehab
I said no, no, no."

[STEED]

It's time to put a three month cap on polls after three months there done and no more voting. :hulk:

[Sailor Steve]

Sort of like the phrase: "Devil to pay" which according to author Patrick O'Brian originally referred to caulking (paying) the outermost deck plank (the devil) that joins the main deck to the hull of a ship. The original quote: "There's a devil to pay and no pitch hot".
Or not.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dev1.htm

[August]

Sort of like the phrase: "Devil to pay" which according to author Patrick O'Brian originally referred to caulking (paying) the outermost deck plank (the devil) that joins the main deck to the hull of a ship. The original quote: "There's a devil to pay and no pitch hot". Or not.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dev1.htm

I prefer the nautical version. "I don’t think" and " It’s more probable" sounds to me like he's guessing, but his answer does sounds lot more intriguing than "Yes it's true".

[Stealth Hunter]

It's time to put a three month cap on polls after three months there done and no more voting. :hulk:

Pool's cl- I mean, POLL'S CLOSED.:stare:

[Sailor Steve]

Sort of like the phrase: "Devil to pay" which according to author Patrick O'Brian originally referred to caulking (paying) the outermost deck plank (the devil) that joins the main deck to the hull of a ship. The original quote: "There's a devil to pay and no pitch hot". Or not.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dev1.htm

I prefer the nautical version. "I don’t think" and " It’s more probable" sounds to me like he's guessing, but his answer does sounds lot more intriguing than "Yes it's true".
Oh, I agree, it could well be true. I just take most of these with a grain of salt after learning the truth about "freezing the balls off a brass monkey."

[Jimbuna]

Sort of like the phrase: "Devil to pay" which according to author Patrick O'Brian originally referred to caulking (paying) the outermost deck plank (the devil) that joins the main deck to the hull of a ship. The original quote: "There's a devil to pay and no pitch hot". Or not.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dev1.htm

I prefer the nautical version. "I don’t think" and " It’s more probable" sounds to me like he's guessing, but his answer does sounds lot more intriguing than "Yes it's true".
Oh, I agree, it could well be true. I just take most of these with a grain of salt after learning the truth about "freezing the balls off a brass monkey."

LMAO :rotfl:

[August]

I just take most of these with a grain of salt after learning the truth about "freezing the balls off a brass monkey."

Steve you can't just toss such an interesting bit of trivia in there without giving at least SOME explanation... :yep:

[nikimcbee]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mQKxAqpjroo

Me and Buzz punch people in the face for this kind of talk. :arrgh!:

This adds some insite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTKedyQQkZQ&NR=1

[Jimbuna]

I'm 100% positive that the landing was real. I remember sitting in the school library watching it on TV, and the teacher told us it was http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/img144/2637/strokingheadov1.gif

[STEED]

Kill the poll now. :damn:

[Jimbuna]

This might help:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/brassmonkeys.htm