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kiwi_2005
04-10-06, 05:18 PM
Alfred Hulme v.c.
killed 33 german soldiers in the battle of crete in 1941, while disguised as a german paratrooper... historian glyn harper claims in his book"in the face of the enemy" that hulme acted with perfidy and broke the international rules of combat... how dare this idiot claiming to be an historian attempt to play down an obvious act of heroism which most likely saved many allied soldiers' lives...we don't need this sort of garbage from armchair experts to sully the memory of a v.c. hero just in time for anzac day... kiwi bookshops should refuse to sell this trash....


During the period 20/28 May 1941 in Crete, Greece, Sergeant Hulme displayed outstanding leadership and courage. At Maleme he led a party against the enemy who were attacking with rifles, machine-guns and mortars. At Galatos he drove the enemy away from a school building with hand grenades. At Suda Bay he killed five snipers and at Styles he wiped out a mortar crew and accounted for three more snipers.

Linton
04-10-06, 05:21 PM
Perhaps you should put on a german paratrooper's tunic on and teach this historian a history lesson!

kiwi_2005
04-10-06, 05:28 PM
For those that hav never heard of him theres plenty of sites about him.
http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/name-208291.html

The argument of the historian is Hulme shot germans in the back so shouldn't deserve the V.C??? What a Tosser! :nope:

bradclark1
04-10-06, 06:59 PM
The argument of the historian is Hulme shot germans in the back so shouldn't deserve the V.C??? What a Tosser! :nope:

He would of legally been executed on the spot if captured.

Konovalov
04-11-06, 03:35 AM
The argument of the historian is Hulme shot germans in the back so shouldn't deserve the V.C??? What a Tosser! :nope:

He would of legally been executed on the spot if captured.

Just as German soldiers were for wearing American uniforms in the Battle of the Bulge.

Abraham
04-11-06, 05:18 PM
Yep, even war has rules, mainly because it is not a personal thing but an impersonal fight One of them is that when you surrender, war is over for you. Another one is that you wear your own nations uniform. And yes, one of them is also that if you break the rules, you are shot.

Linton
04-11-06, 05:24 PM
I believe that in the old days it was known as a "ruse de guerre".I have just been reading about special forces ops in the Med in WW2.Some of the participants did not wear military unifirm but one of them used to wear a Grenadier Guards button tied around his neck so that he would not be executed if captured.

kiwi_2005
04-11-06, 05:51 PM
Wasn't it back then to the nazis you were shot anyway :P
Theres been alot of kiwi heroism but is hardly known off apart from kiwis themselves, for instance the Maori battlion while fighting in crete use to stand up and do the Haka (a warrior war dance) When the germans first witness this they use to just stare in amazment and not fire a shot, they were either stunned at our stupidity of the Maoris or some would say it sort of frighten them. A full blown Haka can be intimdating.
http://folksong.org.nz/maori_battalion/

Abraham
04-12-06, 01:34 AM
Wasn't it back then to the nazis you were shot anyway :P ...
Generally the (nazi) Germans were quite "korrekt" as far as POW treatement is concerned, on the Meditarranean and Western Front at least. Exceptions existed at all parties. Notable exceptions were made by some - but not all - Waffen-SS units in the later part of the war. At the East Front the Rules of War were thrown out of the window practically as from day one.e some