ambrose
04-02-06, 09:02 AM
hi all,
i am new to the silent hunter community -- and billboards in general -- so i thought i would contribute a little something of interest with my first post... but first a question.
i don't yet have sh3, the main reason for this is, of course, starforce. i was wondering if anyone knows whether starforce comes with the no-dvd download of the game available from direct2drive and places like that? any help to how i can avoid a dead disk drive will be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.
i found this nyt article about the sinking of the bismark at the australian newspaper, the age. i don't know if the story about how she was apparently scuttled not sunk by direct gunfire has been posted already but i think its pretty interesting. maybe someone should come up with a mod that makes the bismark indestructible apart from the rudder!
well, anyway, this forum looks like a great place -- busy and interesting. look forward to shooting the breeze with y'all.
-ambrose
Americans set on sinking a British naval legend
December 4 2002
The Bismarck was the world's most feared warship, a Nazi superweapon meant to sever the convoy lifeline that kept Britain alive in World War II.
Its guns could fire one-tonne shells 38 kilometres. So, upon its debut in 1941, the British responded with everything they had. Resolve stiffened when the Bismarck destroyed the Hood, considered Britain's finest ship, killing all but three of its 1415 men. "Sink the Bismarck!" became the battle cry.
After being pursued by a fleet of British ships and aircraft, and constant pounding by shells and torpedoes, the Bismarck sank 770 kilometres off the coast of France on May 27, 1941. It was the eighth day of the warship's first mission. The victory became a monument of British pride and, in time, a hit film, a popular song and a small industry of Bismarck books and TV shows.
But new evidence, detailed in interviews, videotapes and photographs, suggests the story is wrong. "We conclusively proved there was no way the British sank that ship," said Alfred McLaren, a naval expert who studied the wreck on two expeditions, this year and last. "It was scuttled."
This conclusion is still hotly contested by British researchers. But five expeditions have reconnoitered the site, and three independent teams of American explorers, including Mr McLaren, a retired submariner and emeritus president of the Explorers Club in New York, have concluded that the ship is in surprisingly good shape.
No major damage is visible on the sides of its hull, the US explorers said. That fact alone, they add, suggests the Bismarck was scuttled - as German survivors have claimed all along, in line with their naval tradition of scuttling ships in danger of falling into enemy hands.
The US conclusions have infuriated the British, who denounce them as revisionist claptrap. "I just don't buy it," said David Mearns, who last year led a British expedition to the wreck. "Bismarck was destroyed by British gunnery and sunk by torpedoes."
The latest assault is by James Cameron, director of the 1997 film Titanic. His TV documentary is based on an expedition last year in which he explored the Bismarck with robots and piloted submersibles. The expedition was able to probe the wreckage more thoroughly than earlier investigations.
Would the wounded Bismarck have sunk without the scuttling? "Sure," Mr Cameron said in an interview. "But it might have taken half a day."
In 1941 the British got a break when an aircraft crippled the battleship's rudder with a torpedo. British ships attacked with shells and torpedoes.
Of nearly 2200 men on board the Bismarck, just 115 were rescued. They told of setting off scuttling charges about 30 minutes before the sinking and before the last torpedoes hit.
- New York Times
This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/12/03/1038712934709.html
i am new to the silent hunter community -- and billboards in general -- so i thought i would contribute a little something of interest with my first post... but first a question.
i don't yet have sh3, the main reason for this is, of course, starforce. i was wondering if anyone knows whether starforce comes with the no-dvd download of the game available from direct2drive and places like that? any help to how i can avoid a dead disk drive will be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.
i found this nyt article about the sinking of the bismark at the australian newspaper, the age. i don't know if the story about how she was apparently scuttled not sunk by direct gunfire has been posted already but i think its pretty interesting. maybe someone should come up with a mod that makes the bismark indestructible apart from the rudder!
well, anyway, this forum looks like a great place -- busy and interesting. look forward to shooting the breeze with y'all.
-ambrose
Americans set on sinking a British naval legend
December 4 2002
The Bismarck was the world's most feared warship, a Nazi superweapon meant to sever the convoy lifeline that kept Britain alive in World War II.
Its guns could fire one-tonne shells 38 kilometres. So, upon its debut in 1941, the British responded with everything they had. Resolve stiffened when the Bismarck destroyed the Hood, considered Britain's finest ship, killing all but three of its 1415 men. "Sink the Bismarck!" became the battle cry.
After being pursued by a fleet of British ships and aircraft, and constant pounding by shells and torpedoes, the Bismarck sank 770 kilometres off the coast of France on May 27, 1941. It was the eighth day of the warship's first mission. The victory became a monument of British pride and, in time, a hit film, a popular song and a small industry of Bismarck books and TV shows.
But new evidence, detailed in interviews, videotapes and photographs, suggests the story is wrong. "We conclusively proved there was no way the British sank that ship," said Alfred McLaren, a naval expert who studied the wreck on two expeditions, this year and last. "It was scuttled."
This conclusion is still hotly contested by British researchers. But five expeditions have reconnoitered the site, and three independent teams of American explorers, including Mr McLaren, a retired submariner and emeritus president of the Explorers Club in New York, have concluded that the ship is in surprisingly good shape.
No major damage is visible on the sides of its hull, the US explorers said. That fact alone, they add, suggests the Bismarck was scuttled - as German survivors have claimed all along, in line with their naval tradition of scuttling ships in danger of falling into enemy hands.
The US conclusions have infuriated the British, who denounce them as revisionist claptrap. "I just don't buy it," said David Mearns, who last year led a British expedition to the wreck. "Bismarck was destroyed by British gunnery and sunk by torpedoes."
The latest assault is by James Cameron, director of the 1997 film Titanic. His TV documentary is based on an expedition last year in which he explored the Bismarck with robots and piloted submersibles. The expedition was able to probe the wreckage more thoroughly than earlier investigations.
Would the wounded Bismarck have sunk without the scuttling? "Sure," Mr Cameron said in an interview. "But it might have taken half a day."
In 1941 the British got a break when an aircraft crippled the battleship's rudder with a torpedo. British ships attacked with shells and torpedoes.
Of nearly 2200 men on board the Bismarck, just 115 were rescued. They told of setting off scuttling charges about 30 minutes before the sinking and before the last torpedoes hit.
- New York Times
This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/12/03/1038712934709.html