which squadrons operate sea harriers?

[ABBAFAN]

or did.is it just 800 and 801 or are there others?
will they form new squadrons when the new carriers come out?

[Kapitan]

800 and 801 did operate sea harries


We have none no more.

[TLAM Strike]

We have none no more. You folks switch to the F/A-35s already? :o

[Kapitan]

We wish we now have to rely on GR7 and GR9 harriers which are not realy air to air capible.

[TLAM Strike]

We wish we now have to rely on GR7 and GR9 harriers which are not realy air to air capible.

Ah.

I bet those Phantoms you got rid of 30 years ago are looking real good right now. :lol:

[Oberon]

Heck, that this rate it's only a matter of time before they start hauling out the Swordfishes and Spitfires.... :nope:

[TLAM Strike]

I wonder what a Swordfish would look like on an AEGIS RADAR... Heck a Cessna sneaked past the majority of the Soviet Union’s air defenses back in the day, could a WWII era biplane make it past AEGIS? :hmm:

[Bort]

What a sad event, two of the great fleet defenders, (Sea Harrier FA.2 and F-14 Tomcat) leaving service at pretty much the same time, shows you what the navy thinks of them... :down: Heres a link to a great BBC video of the SHAR's last carrier ops:http://www.alert5.com/newsphotos/Sea.Harrier.Last.RN.takeoff.wmv

[Oberon]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7069648842128183770

Good Tomcat tribute video :up:

[ABBAFAN]

what was that happening on the tomcat video about 1 min 30 secs into the clip it looked like a cloud stuck to the arse end of the aircraft as it flew over?

what have they replaced the tomcat with?

if there were only two sea harrier squadrons what would they do if all 3 of the RN carriers were at sea at the same time?or would that not ever happen?

[Oberon]

what was that happening on the tomcat video about 1 min 30 secs into the clip it looked like a cloud stuck to the arse end of the aircraft as it flew over?

what have they replaced the tomcat with?



I believe the cloud was created by the breaking of the sound barrier :D

As for what they've replaced the F-14 with...I think it's primarily the JSF, or some F-18s.

Still a damn shame to see them go...my missus is still in mourning for them :cry:

[Kapitan]

F/A-18 E/F/G have entirely replaced the tomcats, known as super hornets these are acctualy alot better and are smaller than tomcats.

[TLAM Strike]

Uhhh Kap the G is replacing the EA-6B not the F-14. Also the Super Hornet can't carry the AIM-54 and are slower than the F-14 so I would say they are not better than the Cat. Also bigger is better, you are less likely to take critical damage when hit (note how the F-14’s engines are so widely spaced, that’s for a reason: if one is damaged the 2nd is less likely to have been damaged at the same time).

[Kapitan]

i see, but the hornet is smaller so in time of war more can be carried :lol:

[TLAM Strike]

i see, but the hornet is smaller so in time of war more can be carried :lol: That might be an advantage is we had those little toy Euro-Carriers but ours were built to launch the RA-5 Vigilante (http://www.vectorsite.net/ava5.html), that sucker was the size of two Harriers! Yep we had a strategic bomber for our carriers how cool are we? :rock:

Seriously the F-14 is all of 1 foot longer and 3 feet wider.

[Bort]

Not the Hornet vs. Tomcat thing again... :roll:
i see, but the hornet is smaller so in time of war more can be carried
This is pretty much a moot point because US carriers aren't carrying anywhere near the amount of planes they used to, space isn't really an issue anymore.
Also the Super Hornet can't carry the AIM-54 and are slower than the F-14 so I would say they are not better than the Cat.
Right on :up: Gotta add in that the Tomcat has much more range as well, plus it's way cooler! :rock:

[Oberon]

* Bort]Not the Hornet vs. Tomcat thing again... :roll:
i see, but the hornet is smaller so in time of war more can be carried
This is pretty much a moot point because US carriers aren't carrying anywhere near the amount of planes they used to, space isn't really an issue anymore.
Also the Super Hornet can't carry the AIM-54 and are slower than the F-14 so I would say they are not better than the Cat.
Right on :up: Gotta add in that the Tomcat has much more range as well, plus it's way cooler! :rock:


OOoooooooh, moral dilemma...

I like the F-18 AND the F-14!!
Who shall I pitch for....?
MMmmmm
Errrrrrr

I'VE GOTTIT!!

I pitch for the A-10!!
*is smacked over the head by fiance*

[ABBAFAN]

what other aircraft do us carriers operate and what for?

[Kapitan]

S3 viking for refueling
E2 hawk eye for AWACS
F-18E/F the primary strike fighter / bomber
A6 intruder for Electronic warefare
MH60 for Search and rescue (not sure on this one please correct)

And id imagine it could land any type of helo or carrier capible plane (including harriers)

[TLAM Strike]

what other aircraft do us carriers operate and what for?
F/A-18 Hornets for AAW, Strike ETC soon to be suplmented by the F/A-35
EA-6B Prowlers for EW and (Theroicly SEAD) they are now being replaced by the F/A-18G Growler
E-2C Hawkeye AWACS
S-3B Viking for ASuW, Maratime Recon and ASW (if reequipped)
SH-60F Seahawks for ASW and Plane Guard duities
HH-60H Seahawks for Strike, Sepc Ops support and SAR

They can also carry ES-3A Shadows for ELINT but I think all those have been retired. The C-2 Greyhound for COD can be stored aboard but is genneraly stationed on shore.

The only limit on what can land on a US CVN is basicly how it takes off (and if it can land in the given space or has a hook). Some aircraft like French (I think) and Russian fighters don't use the same catapult system (or use a cat system at all in the case of the Russians)

[Kapitan]

Put the SU33 or 37 on the deck of a nimitz and it will take off the deck is long enough for brakes on power full release take off, providing it is not loaded.

The SU33 and 37's are STOL capible.

French rafells and etandards have landed and taken off on Nimits carriers, so have british and even private light air craft such as cessna's.

[TLAM Strike]

Well I say taking off unloaded dosn't really count since their are proably many aircraft that could take off from a CV's deck if loaded with just a few hundred gallons of fuel. ;)

I thought the French used a different catapult arrangement than the USN. :hmm: Maybe I was mistaken...

Beside the Harrier and Helos has anything British (besides their US built jets) landed and taken off from a US Carrier since WWII? :ping:

[Bort]

Beside the Harrier and Helos has anything British (besides their US built jets) landed and taken off from a US Carrier since WWII?
I know that there was an exchange of Phantoms amongst a US and UK carrier in the 60's or 70's, with hilarious results, I'll post later when I find pics. :D

[Bort]

This is what happens when you park your Phantom in a bad neighborhood! :D
http://www.cybermodeler.net/aircraft/f-4/images/892Sqn.jpg

[Happy Times]

In Finland F-18s land and take of from small and narrow highway bases, cool stuff. http://www.ilmavoimat.fi/imgarchive/tukikohtakuvat/galleria_hn2.jpg http://www.ilmavoimat.fi/imgarchive/tukikohtakuvat/galleria_hn1.jpg http://www.ilmavoimat.fi/imgarchive/tukikohtakuvat/galleria_hn4.jpg

[TLAM Strike]

@Bort: HAHAHA Nice. :up:

@Happy Times: Oh thats nothing, the old F-8 Cruisader took off safely a few times with its wings folded. The Fins should have purchased a few of those! :rock:

[Bort]

In Finland F-18s land and take of from small and narrow highway bases, cool stuff.
Yes, but this is cooler:
http://www.topedge.com/alley/images/f14a/f14a2r.jpg
http://www.topedge.com/alley/images/f14a/f14a211u.jpg

[TLAM Strike]

Bahhh this is how to take off!
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3774/avzel12ah.jpg
The F-104 Starfighter, an aircraft that needs neather wings nor runway.

The Zero Length Launch Fighther (http://www.vectorsite.net/avzel.html)
From: http://www.vectorsite.net/indexav.html

[Bort]

Now that's cojones!
Heres a link to some vids of zero length launches, including one out of a barn, and some other crazy aviattion stuff:http://www.airandspacemagazine.com/ASM/Web/Site/QT/Menu.html

[PeriscopeDepth]

Da da da dun...I went through the DANGER ZONE!

PD

[Happy Times]

http://www.saunalahti.fi/~halle/planes/usa/pic/f-18_4.jpg

[Bort]

I see your 4 HARM's, and raise you 6 Phoenixes
http://www.topedge.com/alley/images/f14b/f14b211e.jpg

[Kapitan]

So can swedens SAAAB viggena nd grippen infact ive seen a movie of a grippen taking off while going round a corner.

[TLAM Strike]

* Bort]I see your 4 HARM's, and raise you 6 Phoenixes
I'll take that and rase you 30 MK 82s
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/496/usmila6015ef.jpg
:rock:

[ABBAFAN]

didnt they recently take vikings out of service and replace them with something?i read it in warship magazine(i think).

[TLAM Strike]

didnt they recently take vikings out of service and replace them with something?i read it in warship magazine(i think). Not yet. In 2009 they will be, but they will not be replaced. The P-3 and P-8 will be filling the ASW role from shore bases.

[Bort]

Sorry TLAM, but I think this one is the royal flush...
http://www.midwaysailor.com/midwayva25bomb/va25specbomb-001b.jpg
This is a real, undoctored photo, read the story here:http://www.midwaysailor.com/midwayva25bomb/
A Skyraider dropped a kitchen sink in Korea as well. :rock:

[Abraham]

Those pics were A LOT OF FUN, guys. :up:

[Happy Times]

Videos from exercise Ilma 2002, F-18s and BAE Hawks operating from a highway base next to a gas station, in the middle of finnish countryside, and from a small airstrip. http://tietokannat.mil.fi/ilma2002/videot/lusi.mpg The kid says he wants to become a pilot and bomb Russia. The woman with the cows compliments the FAF for stopping flights when its time to milk the cows. :rotfl: http://tietokannat.mil.fi/ilma2002/videot/vaijerilasku.mpg This clip has a wire landing in a small airstrip and everyone compliments the pilot