Having a bad day? Things could always be worse....

[Tikigod]

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[Ducimus]

:roll:

[Sailor Steve]

HAH! I shot down 34 Liberators and 22 Sunderlands before they finally got me!

I think those pictures say it all.

Thanks for those.

[Dowly]

:nope: R.I.P.

[Salvadoreno]

damn.. Those poor bastards.. I commend them. :nope:

[Tikigod]

damn.. Those poor bastards.. I commend them. :nope:

yeah but, in war someone is always on the receiving end....thats just the way it kinda goes....what about merchants attacked by uboats? uboats give as well as receive....you shouldn't pitty them......its a part of war....the uboat is a warship....its not out for a pleasure cruise....and taking shots is all part of the overall job description....its what distinguishes a soldier from your average man....its everything he risks...even if it means his life....I only feel sorry for the families that have to go through the loss.

As for the pics they seem to be holding out....I think that is what I like about them...they illustrate the overall difficulties and disadvantage that each boat is in...yet you still see them continuing to fight...its kinda like a John Paul Jones mentality....the human will to survive and to achieve overall victory....

[The Noob]

Poor Germans.......................................... :nope:

I am Sure not Many Survived that................................. :dead:

[Oberon]

ouchouchouchouchouchouchouch!!

Always cringe when I see pics of Uboats under attack, must be the subsimmer in me.

[KptnLt Eric Karle]

OMG, in that fourth one you can almost hear the crew praying for the damn boat to dive :(

[jumpy]

its kinda like a John Paul Jones mentality....the human will to survive and to achieve overall victory....

You mean the Bass player from Led Zeppelin? :-?

[tycho102]

Poor Germans.......................................... :nope:

I am Sure not Many Survived that................................. :dead:

Dude! They didn't. That was the general idea.

Same as us (in reference to SH3).

[Kpt. Lehmann]

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War is hell for everyone.

[Sailor Steve]

its kinda like a John Paul Jones mentality....the human will to survive and to achieve overall victory....

You mean the Bass player from Led Zeppelin? :-?
:rotfl:

Unless you weren't joking, in which case I refer you to:

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/traditions/html/jpjones.html

"I have not yet begun to fight!"

[Salvadoreno]

damn.. Those poor bastards.. I commend them. :nope:

yeah but, in war someone is always on the receiving end....thats just the way it kinda goes....what about merchants attacked by uboats? uboats give as well as receive....you shouldn't pitty them......its a part of war....the uboat is a warship....its not out for a pleasure cruise....and taking shots is all part of the overall job description....its what distinguishes a soldier from your average man....its everything he risks...even if it means his life....I only feel sorry for the families that have to go through the loss.

As for the pics they seem to be holding out....I think that is what I like about them...they illustrate the overall difficulties and disadvantage that each boat is in...yet you still see them continuing to fight...its kinda like a John Paul Jones mentality....the human will to survive and to achieve overall victory....

The reason i got into wwii submarine warfare, is because those guys are really elites to me. To put all your trust in a machine that operates underwater, knowing the slightest error or mistake can lead to all to a HORRIBLE watery grave... Thats bravery to me. A lot of submarines werent as brainwashed as the werchmant or the luftwaffe. For the most part most were not "NAZIS".. I cringe everytime i hear about a u-boat getting lost "With all Hands". Merchantmen have a chance of being rescued, what happens to the u-boat sailor who is being depthcharged beneath? Only death awaits him.
I was reading about the Torelli or the Torzeni (some Italian Submarine) and it was said that that sub was being depth charged for almost 24 hours or i think more, until the sub was finally destroyed. Those poor men, to go thru that...Then not survive and die. There is no peace in death in a submarine.
An aircraft pilot goes down, and usually its quick and from what i have read/heard(from my dad who crashed into his base while test flying a plane) everything goes silent, its in slow motion, the only thing u think about is controlling the plane no matter how out of control it is, and there is a calm while in the air.
A servicemen is different, sometimes its quick, sometimes it isnt. And there is a lot more horror that a pilot or sailor would never see.
But there is just something in submarine warfare that has just pure horror in it. It seems all the deaths are slow. From being depth charged, waiting. To hearing "ALLLARRRM" from the bridge and the last horrifying moments before the aircraft missles/bombs hit. Even then not all die in the blast, some have to wait till there compartment fills up with water.. Ew! Im shivering right now!

"Thats the last thing ever heard from u-???"... Thats another statement i cannot stand. Like U-47, there is no way to know what happened, its like the men from u-boats dissapeared, no way to even honor their graves.

There are no roses's on a sailors grave
No lilies on an ocean wave,
The only tribute is the seagulls' sweeps,
And the teardrop that a sweetheard weeps.
:cry: :cry:

[Ducimus]

I dont know for sure what got me into sub sims, or sub's in general. I know that only WW2 subs intrest me. I have not one iota of intrest in anything before, or after WW2.

I think its the idea of how a single sub, can do alot of damage to an enemy, and being that lone hunter, far, far from home, far from any help or any friendlies, lurking, behind enemy lines, striking when they least expect it, and then dispearing like a ghost. (probably why i like IX boats so much)

That and i suppose as machines, WW2 subs have always had my mechanical intrest. I used to read everything i could and once when i got to tour a real US fleet boat, i had a general where everything was, before i even stepped on board.

But again, far far from home, from any help, from most hopes or chances of survival if found.

http://www.emackinnon.com/wahoo-final-battle-photos-1.jpg

[Tikigod]

The reason i got into wwii submarine warfare, is because those guys are really elites to me. To put all your trust in a machine that operates underwater, knowing the slightest error or mistake can lead to all to a HORRIBLE watery grave... Thats bravery to me. A lot of submarines werent as brainwashed as the werchmant or the luftwaffe. For the most part most were not "NAZIS".. I cringe everytime i hear about a u-boat getting lost "With all Hands". Merchantmen have a chance of being rescued, what happens to the u-boat sailor who is being depthcharged beneath? Only death awaits him.
I was reading about the Torelli or the Torzeni (some Italian Submarine) and it was said that that sub was being depth charged for almost 24 hours or i think more, until the sub was finally destroyed. Those poor men, to go thru that...Then not survive and die. There is no peace in death in a submarine.
An aircraft pilot goes down, and usually its quick and from what i have read/heard(from my dad who crashed into his base while test flying a plane) everything goes silent, its in slow motion, the only thing u think about is controlling the plane no matter how out of control it is, and there is a calm while in the air.
A servicemen is different, sometimes its quick, sometimes it isnt. And there is a lot more horror that a pilot or sailor would never see.
But there is just something in submarine warfare that has just pure horror in it. It seems all the deaths are slow. From being depth charged, waiting. To hearing "ALLLARRRM" from the bridge and the last horrifying moments before the aircraft missles/bombs hit. Even then not all die in the blast, some have to wait till there compartment fills up with water.. Ew! Im shivering right now!

"Thats the last thing ever heard from u-???"... Thats another statement i cannot stand. Like U-47, there is no way to know what happened, its like the men from u-boats dissapeared, no way to even honor their graves.

There are no roses's on a sailors grave
No lilies on an ocean wave,
The only tribute is the seagulls' sweeps,
And the teardrop that a sweetheard weeps.
:cry: :cry:


Well, the german's are the one's that decided to design a boat to go underwater....if they didn't want to be depth charged they should have stayed on the surface and fight with the rest of us. I'm sure the allies would have had an alternative, more convenient way for them to die if they didn't want to be depth charged on the bottom.... I mean what did they expect? the allies were going to use fishing hooks or shiney lures?

Uboats were a problem to shipping...and depth charges were the answer to it....All the servicemen made decissions....and they chose to attack ships in a "machine that operates underwater" and would "lead to all to a HORRIBLE watery grave" if the "slightest mistake was made" that my friend is brain washing at its finest. You don't have to be a nazi in order to be brainwashed...all you need to do it just tell a group of guys to climb into a hot, stinky, cramped up vessel that would dive to 200+ meters under the ocean...and then tell them to go out and actually shoot things with it...these guys knew what they were getting into. The technology had been around since WWI. So the way they died was noithing new.

I don't understand the arguement of how a person dies whether its fast or slow determines if they are elite or not....that statement doesn't make sense to me...anyone that serves to defend their country is an elite.....whether you are in charge of supply or sweeping the floor...everyone is needed to get the job done....take for instance the guy that sweeps the floor. If he didn't sweep the floor and pay attention to crucial detail...and say he missed a spot.....and general patton came in and slipped and hit his head and killed himself...he wouldn't be around to kick the germans from one end to the other....so if you see the guy that sweeps the floor actually saves lives....countless lives.....This job does not get recognized in story books, movies, and others forms of drama focusing on slow deaths and fear of being depth charged...that is for the passionate people to read and get emotional about later after the war is over...or after reflecting on a personal experience they went through....but, everyone from all walks off life were dying during the war...and they are all elites for striving to live through it....

[DeepSix]

Well, the german's are the one's that decided to design a boat to go underwater....if they didn't want to be depth charged they should have stayed on the surface and fight with the rest of us. ....

Well actually it was an American named David Bushnell who designed the first working (in the modern sense) combat submarine (Turtle, 1775). Bushnell was followed by another American, Robert Fulton, who built Nautilus (c. 1800). Nobody in Europe wanted it, so Fulton came home and wound up building the Clermont (and was probably happier for it in the long run :) ). Later, it was yet another American, H.L. Hunley, who really developed the first *effective* sub, for the South during the Civil War. I say the C.S.S. Hunley was the first effective sub because it sank the Union ship Housatonic - first time a sub sank an enemy warship.

Germany came along later; she was the last major power to develop a fleet of combat subs.

Not trying to torpedo your post, just pointing out. Cheers. :)

[Manstra]

I read about "Hunley".
Didn't it have a large harpoon type spike out the front which it used to puncture the hull of the ships?

[DeepSix]

Hunley had a spar mounted at the bow and a single cannister "torpedo" (which originally meant simply a mine) slung at the end of the spar. A lanyard ran back to the sub, which would indeed ram the spar into the ship below the waterline, pull the lanyard as it reversed, and detonate the torpedo.

Basic info and links: http://www.charlestonillustrated.com/hunley/#