Chessmatch III: Type XXIII vs. porphy

[Type XXIII]

I'm taking the liberty to follow Skybird's example. Any opponent is welcome. Also, I hope Neal or some other mod will edit the thread subject and sticky the thread.

1. e2-e4

[Sixpack]

You're a brave kid :yep: Too bad I ain't got the time :shifty:

[Skybird]

Ask Kiwi. He expressed interest some days ago, so send him a PM, maybe.

[porphy]

Hi

I will join the fun. :up:

1. e2-e4
My move e7-e6


Cheers Porphy

[Takeda Shingen]

Alright, Porphy!

[Skybird]

Good luck to both of you!

[Sixpack]

Yea, I am going to follow this one closely...

[Type XXIII]

1...e7- e6
2. d2 - d4

[porphy]

2. d2 - d4
My move: d7 - d5

Type XXIII, I think we forgot the initial handshake between players. :yep: ...."handshake"....

Cheers Porphy

[Type XXIII]

*handshake* I'm sorry I forgot.

2. ... d7 - d5
3. e4 - e5

I'm going away for the weekend, so it might be Monday until I make my next move.

[porphy]

Hi

3. e4 - e5
My move c7 -c5

No problem with you going away for the weekend. We have plenty of time.

Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

With best compliments:

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1938/pos12ht.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Torplexed]

With best compliments:

Skybird......Chairman of the "Board." :cool:

[porphy]

Thank you sky! Looks really nice and more interesting than some letters and numbers in a post.
:up:
Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

You could have more of these - IF ONLY YOU WOULD ENTER SOME MOVES...!!! :hulk:


:lol: :-j


A Scandinavian duel this is, I just realized. Improve international relations, or worstening them - it's up to you! :lol:

[Type XXIII]

Calm down, Skybird, I do have a life outside the computer.

It's a scandinavian duel, alright, however my honored opponent porphy opted NOT to play the Scandinavain defense. He is obviously not a patriot, but is showing clearly francophile tendencies. :-j

I'm afraid I won't make any diagrams, I am logging this game analogically, so to speak.

Perhaps I could take a snapshot with my camera :hmm:

Anyway, time to make things interesting here

3. ...c7 - c5
4. d4xc5

First blood!

[Skybird]

I'm afraid I won't make any diagrams, I am logging this game analogically, so to speak.

If you both agree, I could take care of that, occasionally. I follow your match anyway. "Know your future enemy!" :lol:

[porphy]

Ah, my opponent is back, alive and kicking. :up: I see the teasing has come to this game as well. Chess has always been a battle, but not only on the board. So be it... :-j No scandinavian opening, thats true, but I don't see the Norwegian variation either... I really hope you don't play that one in Ruy Lopez ;)

Yes, time to move some pawns of the board so we can get the pieces up and running. And Skybird seems eager to over-watch this one, you're truly welcome with those nice snapshots from the action.

4. dxc5
My move: Nc6


Cheers Porphy

[Type XXIII]

We're using full notation so

4... Nb8-c6
5. Bc1 - f4

I didn't know the Norwegian defense, actually, so I looked it up. It is not in Ruy Lopez, though, it's a variation of the Robatsch defense (1. e4 g6)

And no, I don't use it.

[porphy]

Sorry if notation was unclear. I will do the full thing now.

4... Nb8-c6
5. bc1 - f4
My move: Bf8 x c5

Hmm, I still think there is a Norwegian variation in the Ruy Lopez. Perhaps you have two openings named as Norwegian, thats good work. ;) Doesn't matter as we won't be playing that or the Robatsch this round.
:)

[Type XXIII]

5 ... Bf8 x c5
6. Qd1 - g4

Doesn't look to be going to well for my part, I knew I was entering unknown territory with dxc5.

[porphy]

Hi

Perhaps dxc5 releases the tension in center a bit early. I mean, that is part of what black want. Well, the game is far from over. Now with the agressive queen move we are entering some sharp play where both of us easily can go wrong, me thinks. :cool:


5 ... Bf8 x c5
6. Qd1 - g4
My move Ng8 - e7


Cheers Porphy

[Type XXIII]

Hard to resist Qxg7, but poisoned pawns are better left alone. (Actually, I believe it would have led to a quick draw. Let's analyze that later.)

6. ... Ng8 - e7
7. Bf1 - d3

[porphy]

The game is speeding up in many ways... My turn to bring out the killer lady. (hmm draw on the p pawn... can't really see that. Maybe because I hate draws... :yep: )

6. ... Ng8 - e7
7. Bf1 - d3
My move: Qd8 - b6

[Type XXIII]

A blunder on my part, it appears, I should have seen that one coming. :nope:
7... Qd8 - b6
8. Nb1 - d2

but I might have lost this one already.

[Skybird]

30 icy crystals for two icy vikings.

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/65/pos11sv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[porphy]

Last move tonight (for me). Up close and personal with his majesty. :yep:

7... Qd8 - b6
8. Nb1 - d2
My move: Bc5 x f2+

Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

Yeah, give him some time - to feel the full suffering from that move! :cool:

[Type XXIII]

8... Bc5 x f2+
9. Ke1 - f1

[porphy]

Hi

8... Bc5 x f2+
9. Ke1 - f1

my move: Bc8 - d7

Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

after 9. .../Bd7

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6478/pos17ra.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[porphy]

Thanks Sky, the picture makes it much more interesting for people that stop by to check the game out at times. :up:

Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

Gern geschehen! Tell me if you two would prefer other colours or figurines.

[Sixpack]

What on earth is happening on this board ?!? :doh:

[porphy]

It started out as a French opening, advance variation, it still has some resemblance to some french themes ... :-j

Cheers

[Skybird]

I thought he meant the forum :lol:

[Type XXIII]

As to what happened on the board, I made a huge blunder. It's a large probability I'll resign within a few moves.

9... Bc8 - d7
10. Ng1 - h3

[scandium]

As to what happened on the board, I made a huge blunder. It's a large probability I'll resign within a few moves.

9... Bc8 - d7
10. Ng1 - h3

Qb6 was one of those sneaky double attacks that can occur in the French (and some Sicilian lines as well) that can be easily overlooked.

[porphy]

Hi
I do have the upper hand after that queen move, but a decisive victory is still some way ahead, and it's usually in these positions I play to passive or make a stupid mistake because of eagerness to end it all quick.

So it is time for a late move from me. I will go to bed now and let my subconscious do the chess work for me... at least one could hope so. ;)

9... Bc8 - d7
10. Ng1 - h3
My move: Bf2 - d4

Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

After 10. .../Bd4

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7841/pos18it.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Type XXIII]

10. ...Bf2 - d4
11. Qg4 - g5

It's a lot of tention on that e5 pawn.

[porphy]

Hi

10. ...Bf2 - d4
11. Qg4 - g5
My move: Ne7 - g6

This game might be a long one. Tomorrow I will leave for one week back country skiing in northern Sweden. :sunny: No internet there ;) so my next move will be on 10 april, when I'm back. Plenty of time to think this over. :D


Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

All vacation is cancelled until war is over. Has noone told you in advance? :)

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/9528/pos29fh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[porphy]

Ok, I'm back. No move for me? Had brill 7 days skiing, and didn't think about chess once. Time for a change... :)

Cheers Porphy

[Type XXIII]

Sorry about no moves yet, I've been away for a week as well. (Extended by one day due to the SAS/Braathens strike.)

11... Ne7 - g6
12. Ra1 - e1

Where did you go on your skiing holiday?

[porphy]

Hi

We went to the area around Sylarna in Jamntland. We did see a wolverine quite close (about 50 m) :huh: Also did a short visit to Norway. A very nice cabin called Storerikvollen with plenty of food served :up:

11... Ne7 - g6
12. Ra1 - e1

My move Nc6 - e7


Cheers Porphy

[Type XXIII]

12... Nc6 - e7
13. c2 - c3

[Skybird]

"Na sowas! Sie sind wieder da!" :) Welcome back, now give us some show for our money!

[porphy]

Yep, time to start the Unterhaltung, at least I will try something more active... :yep:

12... Nc6 - e7
13. c2 - c3

My move f7 -f6

Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/2526/00054py.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Type XXIII]

13... f7 - f6
14. e5 x f6

Weird... I thought I posted this move on Tuesday, and was waiting for you to move, when I suddenly discovered it was my move.

[porphy]

Hi

He he, that is like when you play a club game and suddenly notice that you havn't finished your move by using the clock, and the opponent is sipping coffee and looking around as your time ticks.. :-j


13... f7 - f6
14. e5 x f6

My move Bd4 x f6

Cheers Porphy

[Type XXIII]

14... Bd4 x f6
My move: 15. Qg5 - g3

[porphy]

14... Bd4 x f6
15. Qg5 - g3

My Move: 0-0


Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3521/pos39jk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Type XXIII]

15 ... 0-0
16. Qg3 - f3

[porphy]

15 ... 0-0
16. Qg3 - f3

My move: e6-e5

I predict things will get pretty ugly from now on. ;)

Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

Porphy obviously is having fun. Enjoying yourself, eh? Mean machine you are, Porphy! :-j That thing almost is on autopilot, it seems.

[Type XXIII]

16... e6 - e5
17. Bf4 - e3

looking ugly for my part...

[Skybird]

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9267/pos43yx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[porphy]

16... e6 - e5
17. Bf4 - e3

My move: d5 -d4

No light in the tunnel... :cool:

Cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

No light in the tunnel... :cool:

More like deer in a headlight, I think.

[Type XXIII]

17... d5 - d4
18. c3 x d4

[porphy]

17... d5 - d4
18. c3 x d4

My move: Bf6 - h4


/Porphy

[Type XXIII]

I ... resign. 0-1 :nope:

Good game. 7... Qb6 was the winnning move, I think, the immobility of my king in a weak position made me unable to fend of your attacks.

[porphy]

"handshake" Good game. :yep:

Yes, the queen move made me gain initiative. But even after this I think white could have made things much more complicated by attacking my kingside pawns. If white plays 6. Qg4 I think you have to follow that through with capturing the black g pawn, poisoned or not, thats the whole point of moving out the queen in such an aggressive way. This leads to quite sharp play, but white still have the centre cramped, and keeps up the pressure with the queen, and black has to watch carefully not to be overwhelmed on the kingside when white move out additional forces.

Perhaps I could have played even more brutal? :hmm: 6. Bc5 x f2+ if white captures the bishop, then Qb6+ and black takes the rook together with a smashed kings position. If white don't take the sacrifice, it still looks promising, if not wholly straightforward, for black.
In short, when white captures at once with 4. d x c5, and without enough pressure on the kingside, he releases tension to early in the centre. Black has ample time to develop forces and put e5 under attack. If white don't muster an counterattack the centre is easily lost and black will steamroll the white position. At least this is how I think about the game and the French opening (but I'm certainly no expert on this), comments from others are also welcomed. I think we have some French players around. :cool:

Do you want a rematch?

Cheers Porphy

[scandium]

"handshake" Good game. :yep:

Yes, the queen move made me gain initiative. But even after this I think white could have made things much more complicated by attacking my kingside pawns. If white plays 6. Qg4 I think you have to follow that through with capturing the black g pawn, poisoned or not, thats the whole point of moving out the queen in such an aggressive way. This leads to quite sharp play, but white still have the centre cramped, and keeps up the pressure with the queen, and black has to watch carefully not to be overwhelmed on the kingside when white move out additional forces.

Perhaps I could have played even more brutal? :hmm: 6. Bc5 x f2+ if white captures the bishop, then Qb6+ and black takes the rook together with a smashed kings position. If white don't take the sacrifice, it still looks promising, if not wholly straightforward, for black.
In short, when white captures at once with 4. d x c5, and without enough pressure on the kingside, he releases tension to early in the centre. Black has ample time to develop forces and put e5 under attack. If white don't muster an counterattack the centre is easily lost and black will steamroll the white position. At least this is how I think about the game and the French opening (but I'm certainly no expert on this), comments from others are also welcomed. I think we have some French players around. :cool:

Do you want a rematch?

Cheers Porphy

I agree with all this as well - d4xc5 was a subtle turning point since, as porphy said, it releases the tension in the center too early. One thing worth mentioning is that in this French Advance variation (named after the advance of the white pawn from e4-e5) white's pawns on d4 and e5 point toward the kingside, which is where white will try and aim his attack with moves like Nf3 (which also lends support to d4 and e5) and Bf1-d3; as part of this attack, white may also try and undermine black's pawn chain on d5 and e6 with the pawn thrust g2-g4 and g4-g5 or may simply attack with pieces (perhaps beginning with the classic Bishop sacrifice Bxh7+ if the opportunity presents itself).

Black's pawns meanwhile, on e6 and d5, point toward the Queenside and this is where black aims to decide the game. To that end he plays c7-c5 to undermine white's pawn chain (attacking its base on d4); after white plays c2-c3 to protect the base, black will at some point usually play c5xd4 and after c3xd4 black continues to build up the pressure on the base d4 pawn with moves like Nb8- c6, Qd8-b6, Ng8-e7 and Ne7-f5. Black will also eventually occupy the c-file with his rooks.

All and all it often leads to a very tense game that can either be won explosively, if white gets his Kingside attack off, or slowly as pieces come off and it winds down into a complex endgame with many remaining pawns on both sides of the board.

Its worth mentioning as well that White has other alternatives on his third move that lead to different flavours of game. The most popular alternatives to 3. e4-e5 are (in no order) 3. Nb1-c3, 4. Nb1-d2, and 3. e4xd5. The last option, 3. e4xd5, leads to probably the least theoretical and easiest to play positions while 3.Nb1-c3 can lead to the most complex and challenging for both sides.

[Skybird]

This is what Hiarcs 10 has to say on this match.

I think that already the 5th and 6th move of White led him onto the road to defeat.

Type XXIII - Porphy [C02]
[Hiarcs 10 (30s)]
C02: French: Advance Variation

1.e2-e4 e7-e6 2.d2-d4 d7-d5 3.e4-e5 c7-c5 4.d4xc5 Nb8-c6 last book move 5.Bc1–f4?

Theory only knows one move here: Ng1–f3.

5...Bf8xc5 6.Qd1–g4?

[6.c2-c3 f7-f6 7.Ng1–f3 Qd8-b6µ]

6...Ng8-e7 7.Bf1–d3?

[7.Nb1–c3!? 0–0 8.Ng1–f3]

7...Qd8-b6–+ 8.Nb1–d2 Bc5xf2+

[8...Qb6xb2?! 9.Ra1–b1 Nc6xe5 10.Bd3-b5+ (10.Rb1xb2? looks interesting, but 10...Ne5xg4 11.Bf4-g3 Ne7-f5 12.Bd3xf5 e6xf5–+) 10...Qb2xb5 11.Qg4xg7 (11.Rb1xb5?? Bc5xf2+ (11...Ne5xg4?! 12.Rb5xc5 e6-e5 13.Bf4-g3–+) 12.Ke1xf2 Ne5xg4+ 13.Kf2-e1 e6-e5–+) 11...Bc5xf2+ 12.Ke1–d1³]

9.Ke1–f1

[9.Ke1–e2 Ne7-g6 (9...Qb6xb2 is clearly weaker 10.Ra1–b1 Qb2-c3 11.Ke2xf2 Qc3-d4+ 12.Kf2-e1 Nc6xe5 13.Bd3-b5+ Ke8-f8 14.Qg4-g3±) 10.Ng1–f3 0–0–+ (‹10...Ng6xf4+ 11.Qg4xf4 f7-f6 12.Rh1–f1µ) ]

9...Bc8-d7

[9...Ne7-g6!? keeps an even firmer grip 10.Ng1–f3–+]

10.Ng1–h3 Bf2-d4 11.Qg4-g5?

[11.Qg4xg7 0–0–0 12.Nd2-f3 Qb6xb2 13.Ra1–e1–+]

11...Ne7-g6 12.Ra1–e1 Nc6-e7

[12...Qb6xb2 and Black can already relax 13.Nd2-f3–+]

13.c2-c3

[13.b2-b3 Ne7-f5 14.Nd2-f3 h7-h6–+]

13...f7-f6 14.e5xf6

[14.Qg5-h5 does not solve anything 14...Bd4xe5 15.Nd2-b3 Be5xf4 16.Nh3xf4 0–0–0 17.Nf4xg6 Ne7xg6–+]

14...Bd4xf6 15.Qg5-g3

[15.Qg5-h5 does not improve anything 15...0–0 16.Nd2-f3 e6-e5 17.Bf4xe5 Bf6xe5 18.Re1xe5 Rf8xf3+ 19.g2xf3 Ng6xe5 20.Qh5xh7+ Kg8-f7 21.Qh7-h5+ Kf7-e6–+]

15...0–0 16.Qg3-f3

[16.Qg3-e3 doesn't get the cat off the tree 16...Ng6xf4 17.Qe3xb6 a7xb6 (17...Nf4xd3?! is no comparison 18.Qb6-b3µ (18.Qb6xb7?? the pawn must remain untouched 18...Nd3-c5 19.Qb7xa8 Rf8xa8–+) ) 18.Nh3xf4 e6-e5–+]

16...e6-e5 17.Bf4-e3 d5-d4 18.c3xd4

[18.Nd2-c4 doesn't do any good 18...Qb6-c7 19.Be3-f4 Ng6-h4–+]

18...Bf6-h4

[18...Bf6-h4 19.d4xe5 Rf8xf3+ 20.Nd2xf3 Qb6xb2–+]

0-1

[Skybird]

I would like to see a rematch. Maybe that we all play two rounds against each other that way. If you two guys prefer to play remaqtches in a separate, second round, Takeda is free and waiting for an opponent, he said yesterday. Torplexed as well. Scandium and me probably will be busy with our fight for a longer while to come.