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Takeda Shingen
03-21-06, 05:27 PM
I'll take Sky's lead here and start one myself. I do not own a chess computer and will not be using any programs, nor will I consult paper reference as I do not like to do so when playing, even via correspondence. I also will use full notation. Here goes:


1. e2-e4


I will be teaching for the rest of the night, but I will check back tomorrow to see my opponent, trusting that someone will take up from here.

Skybird
03-21-06, 05:31 PM
Happy hunting! :up: Or what does one say in chess? In my old chess club, during my youth, our trainer always simply said "Bringt sie um!" :lol:

Torplexed
03-21-06, 10:12 PM
Tak needs game. Time to drag out my hideous purple and yellow chessboard. My King will be the black periscope.....

1. e7-e5

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess1.jpg

scandium
03-21-06, 11:45 PM
Heh nice touch on K icon torplexed :D :arrgh!:

Torplexed
03-22-06, 07:01 AM
Thanks scandium. Drew this chess set up in CorelDraw real quick. Doubt you'll ever see it being manufactured by the Franklin Mint. ;)

Sixpack
03-22-06, 07:30 AM
Awesome countermove ! :rock:

I can see a checkmate coming up within 15 moves both sides.

Skybird
03-22-06, 08:00 AM
Congrats for having started a match! Good luck to both combatants!

Oberon
03-22-06, 11:29 AM
Classic opening moves there for both :up:

Leaves room for castling the King :up: :up:

Sixpack
03-22-06, 03:48 PM
While the players crunch their brains for the next moves, I'll entertain you with a quote:

Who said this ?

"I failed to make the chess team because of my height."

Takeda Shingen
03-22-06, 04:26 PM
Alright! The cartoon man cometh.

1....e7-e5 (previous move)

I'll play:

2. Ng1- f3

scandium
03-22-06, 04:34 PM
While the players crunch their brains for the next moves, I'll entertain you with a quote:

Who said this ?

"I failed to make the chess team because of my height."

No idea but its gotta be from a movie...

Sixpack
03-22-06, 04:53 PM
Woody Allen

scandium
03-22-06, 05:01 PM
Woody Allen

Well he definitely fits the stereotype to a tee ;)

Sixpack
03-22-06, 05:04 PM
Woody Allen

Well he definitely fits the stereotype to a tee ;)

:lol:

porphy
03-22-06, 05:24 PM
wut.. no kings gambit?! :rock:

Cheers Porphy

Takeda Shingen
03-22-06, 07:49 PM
wut.. no kings gambit?! :rock:

Cheers Porphy

I almost never play 2. f4, as I despise pawn sacrifices in the opening, even though I could apply extra pressure on black's weak f7 square by doing so. I prefer to exploit positional advantage via center control found in the Petrov or, my favorite, Ruy Lopez.

Torplexed
03-22-06, 08:20 PM
2....Ng1- f3 (previous move)

2. Nb8-c6

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess2.jpg

Takeda Shingen
03-22-06, 08:27 PM
Yes! Ruy Lopez!

2...Nb8-c6 (previous move)

My move:

3. Bf1-b5


Time to make me move that bishop. :D

Torplexed
03-22-06, 09:21 PM
Yes! :D The Ruy Lopez...I believe this little pawn maneuver was known as the Morphy Defense. Funny how some of these terms stick in your head years later.

3. 3. Bf1-b5 ...your move

3. a7-a6

BTW I dislike pawn sacrifices too. More fun to husband one's forces for the climatic battles ahead. :up:

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess3.jpg

Skybird
03-23-06, 04:50 AM
You guys have the nicer board. Real wood grain with a Danish Oil finish I bet. :cool:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1449/pos10hb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Almost like diamonds, and just for you! :P

Torplexed
03-23-06, 07:45 AM
Almost like diamonds, and just for you! :P

Now there is some fine Deutsches craftmanship. Danke! :up:

Takeda Shingen
03-23-06, 05:17 PM
That is a nice looking board.

Previous move: 3...a7-a6

My move: 4. Bb5-a4

This line is indeed the Morphy. It also is my favorite line. Seems like you know your theory, which means that this is going to get really interesting.

scandium
03-23-06, 05:24 PM
We've an interesting mix of nationally named openings going on here: The English opening in match 1, the Spanish in this game (as the Ruy is also known), and the French defence in the third game. Seems all the major 17th century colonial powerhouses are accounted for :lol: .

Takeda Shingen
03-23-06, 05:26 PM
We've an interesting mix of nationally named openings going on here: The English opening in match 1, the Spanish in this game (as the Ruy is also known), and the French defence in the third game. Seems all the major 17th century colonial powerhouses are accounted for :lol: .


:lol: If I win, I get Burma.

Skybird
03-23-06, 05:36 PM
We've an interesting mix of nationally named openings going on here: The English opening in match 1, .

Wrong. It's Catalan System. you rejected my offer to play it English. Lousy gentleman, I have to say! :-j If you wouldn't have played 5. .../d5, then it would have probably turned English.

scandium
03-23-06, 07:22 PM
We've an interesting mix of nationally named openings going on here: The English opening in match 1, .

Wrong. It's Catalan System. you rejected my offer to play it English. Lousy gentleman, I have to say! :-j If you wouldn't have played 5. .../d5, then it would have probably turned English.

Yeah but that subtle nuance only kills my Colonial theme as Catalan is not a 17th century colonial powerhouse :P

Torplexed
03-23-06, 08:38 PM
Dang...you guys know your openings, national histories and all.

Okay...lemme try a developing move which buys a little time by putting pressure on White's King Pawn. This should bring the crowds back from the beer stands.

4. Bb5-a4.....your move.

4. Ng8-f6

By the way I come from the old school move recording method of P-K4, N-KB3...etc. So, should any of my algebraic notation cease to make sense just refer to the picture. :D

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess4.jpg

Sixpack
03-24-06, 06:30 AM
C'mon you guys. It took you 2 days to get to this point in the game ? After all it's only the beaten path you took :lol:

[i am serious btw ;) ]

Skybird
03-24-06, 06:40 AM
Yes, let the mushrooms raise all over the board! :D

BTW, torplexed, what kind of notation is that you mentioned? P-K4? Pawn to King 4...? :doh: I know the long notation (Ng1-f3) and the short notation (Nf3) and the correspondence chess notation (7163), but I never heared or red of the one that you mentioned.

scandium
03-24-06, 07:48 AM
Yes, let the mushrooms raise all over the board! :D

BTW, torplexed, what kind of notation is that you mentioned? P-K4? Pawn to King 4...? :doh: I know the long notation (Ng1-f3) and the short notation (Nf3) and the correspondence chess notation (7163), but I never heared or red of the one that you mentioned.

English notation, also known as descriptive notation. A lot of chess literature that's published in english was written with this notation - until the last couple decades when we began to finally switch over to algebraic and joined the rest of the world.

It still persists though, even today, as a lot of the classics that are reprinted are done so without any conversion from descriptive to algebraic. My personal favourite of these is my copy of Staunton's "The Chess-Player's Handbook" (originally published in 1847, my copy is a reprint from 1994); try and follow this typical quotation from it:

1. P to K's 4th 1.P to K's 4th.
2. K's Kt. to B's 3rd. 2. Q. to K. B's 3rd
3. K's B to Q.B's 4th. 3. Q to K. Kt's 3rd

"Black now attacks two undefended Pawns, but he can take neither without ruinous loss to him; for suppose on your playing P to Q's 3rd, to protect the K's P., he ventures to take the K Kt.'s P., you immediately take the K.B's P. with your B (ch)..."

Its notation is much more cumbersome than the more common abbreviated form of descriptive in other books (ex P-K4 instead of P to K's 4th), but I bought the book anyway as a curiousity piece :)

Torplexed
03-24-06, 08:05 AM
C'mon you guys. It took you 2 days to get to this point in the game ? After all it's only the beaten path you took :lol:

[i am serious btw ;) ]

My apologies. Can't speak for Tak but this is the first chess game I've played in years. You're not gonna get hyper-modern revolutionary openings when you're as rusty as I am. :lol:

Yes! scandium is correct Skybird. English or decriptive notation. Just like with the metric system we didn't want to convert to algebraic for the longest time. Most of my old chess books are written in it. Old habits die hard here. ;) Written in descriptive notation our game would read like this so far..

1. P-K4 P-K4
2. N-KB3 N-QB3
3. B-N5 P-QR3
4. B-R4 N-B3

Skybird
03-24-06, 08:25 AM
I admit I don't get the meaning of it, nor do I see how that example should be a description of the opening moves I had with Scandium. But as we people on the continent know since centuries - Englanders are QUEEEER...! :-j

Takeda Shingen
03-24-06, 04:53 PM
C'mon you guys. It took you 2 days to get to this point in the game ? After all it's only the beaten path you took :lol:

[i am serious btw ;) ]

Sorry Sixpack. I have this job that keeps getting in the way. I am up at 4 am (local time) and work until 3:30. I usually get home by 4:30, where I have a few minutes before I either start teaching private music lessons or have to go back downtown for seminar and class (I am working on my doctorate). Hopefully, I should have more time this weekend to devote to your entertainment. :roll:


Torp, don't worry about being rusty. I run the school's chess club, which keeps me on my toes. This is the only reason that I am up to speed.




Anyway......

Your move: 4...Ng8-f6



My move: 5. d3

Skybird
03-24-06, 07:44 PM
Hopefully, I should have more time this weekend to devote to your entertainment.

Does that mean we will see the famous Takeda cavalry charging? :D

Torplexed
03-24-06, 09:05 PM
Does that mean we will see the famous Takeda cavalry charging? :D

First you have to suffer through my famous pawn assault wave. ;)

5. d3.....Takeda's move

5. b7-b5......gotta keep the clergyman on his toes.

BTW it's nice to know in the age of addictive mind-numbing video games that there are still chess clubs to be run. :up:

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess5.jpg

Skybird
03-25-06, 05:55 AM
[quote="Torplexed"] BTW it's nice to know in the age of addictive mind-numbing video games that there are still chess clubs to be run. :up:

I agree with regard to chess itself. I never really enjoyed playing in lcubs, in teams, tournaments and such - timetables, and an obligation to appear regularly, at least when playing team tournaments. Never liked that, I am no club-man. However, Takeda and me maybe should join forces - he now trains a schooll's chess club, and I have been captain of my school team for three years. :) and in west-Berlin of that time, we were even good. Two times second place amongst all W-Berlin schools!

Strategy on PC is all nice and well and entertaining, but most of the time hardly has anything truly strategic in it. Most of the time it is more about finding the mechansm by which the show is run, and then repeat it again and again. I miss the true diversity in most PC-strategy titles, and the brain-cooker-stuff.

Takeda Shingen
03-25-06, 07:05 AM
Does that mean we will see the famous Takeda cavalry charging? :D

:lol: The Tiger of Kai rides again.

Very nice regarding being captain of the team. That tends to mean a lot more in Europe than in America, as education in the game of chess in this country leaves a lot to be desired. This is why Americans (generally) perform so poorly in international play, with exception to a few unhinged loons like Bobby Fischer.

Torp's previous move: 5...b7-b5


My move: 6. Ba4-b3

And the book goes out the window.

Skybird
03-25-06, 07:29 AM
Very nice regarding being captain of the team. That tends to mean a lot more in Europe than in America,

Not at all...! At least not with regard to Germany. Representing one's school in Germany does mean close to nothing, where I have the impression it means a lot more in America, they also have more events in sports organized on school level. This is not a tradition in Germany. I took over that position from two other guys who were older and had finished school. These two guys really were killer players and after school directly jumped into Germany's national chess league as semi-pros. Captain of the team sounds like much, but it is not like that. I just was more experienced than the new and younger ones that came after the two others had left - that's all. nevertheless we were able to be almost as successful on regional level than we were before, with the two "killers" still being part of the team.

Torplexed
03-25-06, 10:06 AM
The prawn....oops...I mean pawn...assault continues. Sorry for the Freudian slip. I try not to think of my front line troops as finger food.

6. Ba4-b3....Takeda's move

6. d7-d5

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess6.jpg

Takeda Shingen
03-25-06, 10:14 AM
That's surprising to me. I figured that countries that produced such great players with high frequency would start an emphasis on the game early. Even to this day, I am intimidated when sitting across the table from a European, especially a Russian or a German.

Takeda Shingen
03-25-06, 10:21 AM
Hmmm. Torp wants to exchange queens. Okay.

Torp's last move: 6...d7-d5

My move: 7. 0-0

Still, I am not prepared to lose my right to castle.

Torplexed
03-25-06, 10:48 AM
7. 0-0.....Takeda's move

7. B-g4

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess7.jpg

Takeda Shingen
03-25-06, 11:54 AM
Torplexed's move: 7...Bc8-g4


My move: 8. Nb1-d2

Torplexed
03-25-06, 12:41 PM
Wow. Eight moves in and we still have all of our pieces. What's wrong with us? :lol:

8. Nb1-d2....Takeda's move

8. d4

More pawn pushing.

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess8.jpg

Takeda Shingen
03-25-06, 01:24 PM
Wow. Eight moves in and we still have all of our pieces. What's wrong with us? :lol:

We can fix that.

Torp's last move: 8...d5-d4

My move: 9. c2-c4

Skybird
03-25-06, 01:49 PM
"Schlag auf Schlag"? What have you guys been drinking? Or have your wifes threatening you that they will get divoced if you haven't finished this at the end of the weekend?

This is how I see it.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1034/snap00128pj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So if Black just would do it, then White could go on with that, and heaven would have it's ways, so that we all would be able to be one happily family again, and all this hostile aggression would soon be over.

Torplexed
03-25-06, 02:44 PM
9. c2-c4.....Takeda's move

9. Bf8-d6

"Schlag auf Schlag"?.....I'm afraid I'm going to need a translation on that one. :hmm:

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess9.jpg

Skybird
03-25-06, 03:10 PM
Word by word it means " hit by hit." It means: events following each other in very fast, very quick succession.

Takeda Shingen
03-25-06, 03:44 PM
Sky is refering to our enormous build-up of material on the center and, now, on the queenside.

Torp's last move: 9...Bf8-d6

My move: 10. a2-a4

scandium
03-25-06, 03:51 PM
The infantry are certainly earning their pay in this game... no resting at home for them, its off to the front you go! :D

Skybird
03-25-06, 04:38 PM
I know why I never play this opening. Beside Sicilian Defense and King's Indian probably no other system has so much theory to be aware of.

This special variation on display here listens to the charming name: "Machetes in the jungle".

Why are you writing oneliners here, Scandium? Haven't you some homework to do? Hoosh-hoosh! :lol:

Takeda Shingen
03-25-06, 04:44 PM
This special variation on display here listens to the charming name: "Machetes in the jungle".

:rotfl: Quick, let's call Gambit Publications. We've got a new line!

Torplexed
03-25-06, 05:06 PM
Yes scandium...the ground pounders get no rest in my army. :)

10. a2-a4....Takeda's move

10. b4

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess10.jpg

Takeda Shingen
03-25-06, 05:11 PM
Torp's last move: 10...b5-b4

My move: 11. a4-a5

scandium
03-25-06, 05:14 PM
I know why I never play this opening. Beside Sicilian Defense and King's Indian probably no other system has so much theory to be aware of.

This special variation on display here listens to the charming name: "Machetes in the jungle".

Why are you writing oneliners here, Scandium? Haven't you some homework to do? Hoosh-hoosh! :lol:

Its an intense opening. I've tried the Ruy a few times but could never get the feel for it.

Skybird as your move was not very palatable I needed some time to digest it :P

Torplexed
03-25-06, 05:25 PM
11. a4-a5.....Takeda's move

11. 0-0....finally got to move that periscope.

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess11.jpg

Takeda Shingen
03-25-06, 05:30 PM
Torp's move: 11...0-0

My move: 12. Qd1-e1

Torplexed
03-25-06, 07:16 PM
12. Qd1-e1.....Takeda's move

12. Nf6-d7

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess12.jpg

Takeda Shingen
03-26-06, 08:09 AM
Torp's last move: 12...Nf6-d7

My move: 13. Bb3-d1

Skybird
03-26-06, 08:36 AM
About time that you guys woke up! I started to feel a bit lonely here...

scandium
03-26-06, 08:49 AM
About time that you guys woke up! I started to feel a bit lonely here...

Our own masterpiece in progress has me presently stumped. I looked at a couple possibilities last night but couldn't work out all the likely continuations to my satisfaction so I gave up, watched a movie and went to bed :)

I have the position setup once more so something will be forthcoming at some point today... of course I can only hope it will cause you at least significant discomfort, if not outright anguish :yep:

You may wind up feeling utterly helpless, but at least we will have solved your feelings of loneliness :D

Torplexed
03-26-06, 12:01 PM
13. Bb3-d1....Takeda's move

13. Nd7-c5

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/Chess13.jpg

Takeda Shingen
03-26-06, 12:08 PM
Torp's move: 13...Nd7-c5

My move: 14. Nf3-g5

Takeda Shingen
03-26-06, 12:30 PM
Nuts. Missed that one.

**resigns**

You bested me there Torplexed. 14. Ng5 was a major blunder, as 14...Nxd3 will result in either 15...dxe3, 15...Bxe2 or 15...Nxe1 and the loss of Queen. I had gambled on bypassing the chain base at e5 and trying to draw forces into the kingside via 15. Bxg4 or 15. Qxd1/16. Qh5, which would threaten your king and force you into a time-consuming redeployment of material.

8...d4 was the start of my problems. I was willing to tolerate the intrusion with hopes to quietly draw to the queenside, but my ignoring the center was too much of a risk and cost me dearly.

Well-played, and congratulations!

scandium
03-26-06, 12:48 PM
This game, before the blunder, wound up being a little cramped :) Not usual in the closed Ruy variants though.

Would have been a good opportunity with the blocked center to unleash the King's side infantry in a King's Indian style attack, perhaps. :hmm:

Skybird
03-26-06, 01:01 PM
I would say: start a new one or agree on taking back that little fella.

Torplexed
03-26-06, 01:01 PM
Nuts. Missed that one.

**resigns**

Gee...I feel bad now. :( Thanks for the game tho. It was fun while it lasted. Was expecting Bd1-c2 next. ( BTW if you wanna take the move back that's fine with me.) Strange to see a game end with all the pieces still on the board.

BTW a belated thanks to Onkle Neal for stickying these matches. Much appreciated. :up:

Takeda Shingen
03-26-06, 01:06 PM
This game, before the blunder, wound up being a little cramped :) Not usual in the closed Ruy variants though.

Would have been a good opportunity with the blocked center to unleash the King's side infantry in a King's Indian style attack, perhaps. :hmm:

I had considered it, but it then opens up the road for a bishop/queen combination on the d8-h4 diagonal. With my king already without mobility, Torp's black bishop accessible on d6 and his white bishop already camping in the neighborhood, mate would have been a real threat. I had committed my forces to play on the queeside. To redeploy would have cost tempi that I could not spare.

I suspect that my admission of distaste for closed positions made my opponent immediatley persue such a course.

Takeda Shingen
03-26-06, 01:16 PM
Gee...I feel bad now. :( Thanks for the game tho. It was fun while it lasted. Was expecting Bd1-c2 next. ( BTW if you wanna take the move back that's fine with me.) Strange to see a game end with all the pieces still on the board.

BTW a belated thanks to Onkle Neal for stickying these matches. Much appreciated. :up:

First, thanks to Neal. You're a sport!

Second, don't feel bad. You're supposed to try and win. You took and opening which was clearly my strength and manipulated it once leaving the book into a position that became my weakness. You refused to trade, and persuded a 'Nimzoian' style of slow, methodical build up which stymied my aggressive style. Good show!

If you want, we can start another one tomorrow. I need time to chew my loss and plan anew. We can sink this one and start a new thread. You play as white this time.

Torplexed
03-26-06, 01:44 PM
If you want, we can start another one tomorrow. I need time to chew my loss and plan anew. We can sink this one and start a new thread. You play as white this time.

Ahh. You are an excellent sportsman Tak! Tomorrow it is then if you wish. Me as white. We'll start afresh with a new board which will be even uglier than the last if that is possible. ;)

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/NewBoard.jpg

Skybird
03-26-06, 02:49 PM
I would suggest you start a new thread, "Match IV". Just send Neal a PM, requesting a sticky. And maybe declare this one as ended, in the headline. Too bad that you two and me and scandium did not finish at roughly the same time, then we could have picked new opponents.

scandium
03-26-06, 04:00 PM
This works as well since a chess a match is generally a minimum of two games, one with each colour. Thus we're already obliged to play a 2nd game, win lose or draw, with colours reversed ;)