View Full Version : Which WWII movie is your favorite?
winters
02-22-06, 11:04 AM
You like Polls? of course you do. Here is one on favorite WWII movies. Please only name WWII movies if you vote for "other", 8 is the max amount of options i could add to the poll.
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i went with Ryan.
I just remember putting my box of popcorn down about 10 minutes into the movie and being totally drained after the movie.
I have to go with the Stalingrad. :up:
War fiction - Cross of Iron :up:
War non fiction - Downfall :up: :up:
Sailor Steve
02-22-06, 11:38 AM
Other-Battle Of Britain.
winters
02-22-06, 11:44 AM
Other-Battle Of Britain.
That was one i had to remove from my original list along with Enemy Below, Guns of Navarone and a few others, dang this 8 choice limit.
Sailor Steve
02-22-06, 11:47 AM
Well, I also love Das Boot and some of the others. The only one I didn't care for was Saving Private Ryan.
kenijaru
02-22-06, 12:11 PM
as i havent seen Das Boot *silence fills the room, and i feel a chill down my spine, as soon as i realise what that means i talk again* but im really looking for it! i really am.
i guess it would be cross of iron, or sink the bismarck.
Well, I also love Das Boot and some of the others. The only one I didn't care for was Saving Private Ryan.
i agree ryan had WAY too mutch hollywood Stalingrad and Das Boot are the best! :rock:
trenken
02-22-06, 12:32 PM
I not only think Private Ryan is the best war movie ever made (2nd fav being Das Boot), but I think it's one of the best movies i've ever seen. This is all just opinion of course. I really think that movie is special on all levels.
Sailor Steve
02-22-06, 12:38 PM
And it's a good opinion: a very large number of D-Day vets agree with you.
I didn't like the D-Day scenes, mainly because of what I thought were too many cliches: The guy gets saved by his helmet, takes it off and immediately takes a second one to the head. The medics save a wounded man, and he immediately takes one to the head.
I liked the Waco glider, and I liked Nathan Fillion of Firefly/Serenity as the 'other' Private Ryan, but on the whole I much preferred Band Of Brothers and The Longest Day for the same story.
SmokinTep
02-22-06, 12:42 PM
Private Ryan
Type XXIII
02-22-06, 12:46 PM
Hard choice. I haven't seen The Great Escape nor Cross of Iron.
I think my favourite would be Das Boot. Of course, as a navy and especially sub fanatic, I'm probably biased.
Saving Private Ryan was a war movie after the American school. A great movie, but a tad too much Hollywood for my taste. The Longest Day was a little... cheesy and unrealistic. A Bridge Too Far was rather good, a grim tale of war with spots of black humour. Stalingrad was powerful, a dark depiction of the unglamorous life of the common soldier.
Of other movies, I have to (as a Norwegian) to mention Kampen om Tungtvannet. A movie about the raids against the heavy water facility in Rjukan starring, to a large degree, 'the original cast,' so to speak. Just avoid the Hollywood movie about the same events, Heroes of Telemark. It is horrible, easily beats both Enemy at the Gates and Pearl Harbor as worst war movie.
Speaking of Pearl Harbor, Tora Tora Tora! was a great movie, as well.
winters
02-22-06, 12:47 PM
My vote was for the Great Escape, Steve McQueen was THE man back in the 60's-70's and the fact that he did not only his own motorcycle stunts (except for the big jump, the insurance company threatened to have a cow unless a stunt rider did it) but in the scenes when you see Steve ride by and then shortly after another motorcycle rides past and guess what, yep its Steve again this time as the german chasing him.
SPR was a good movie but it had its typical hollywood moments, what i liked most about it was it brought WWII to the eyes of many youths that until then only had the old WWII John Wayne movies to go by. I sat in a theatre filled with teens on a friday night and thought "these kids are gonna get a history lesson" 10 minutes into the movie there was dead silence in the auditorium.
On a side note, nobody here liked A Bridge Too Far?
A Bridge Too Far was excellant, BUT I liked Das Boot and Stalingrad a bit better. Can't decide which should be in poll.
Why is it only one choice?
On your list there was at least 4 movies that is nr 1
1 Das Boot
1 The longest day
1 Saving Private Ryan
1 A bridge too far
Markus
winters
02-22-06, 02:42 PM
Why is it only one choice?
Markus
Its a poll, it doesnt allow you to choose multiples.
Crash Dive
02-22-06, 04:16 PM
I love the longest day and das boot. I refuse to choose between them. :rock:
The Pianist
it takes me weeks to recover every time I see it
winters
02-22-06, 04:37 PM
@Letum, then choose "other"
@Crash, lol theres always gotta be a rebel in the bunch :hmm:
The Longest Day - Definately a classic, with an all-star cast and some memorable quotes 'Yeah, it takes an Irishman to play the pipes!' 'Wounds my heart with a monotonous langour.'
A Bridge too Far - Also a great film, more Connery and a bit of Caine...the German tanks were a bit off but otherwise good stuff. The music score was memorable too...same as The Longest Day.
Das Boot - The Daddy of all submarine films....nuff said. Best watched in original German with English subtitles :up:
Saving Private Ryan - Would you believe it, I only watched this the other day for the first time. Very Hollywood in places but managed to avoid some of the major cliches. The fact that Upham remained cowering even when the rest of the team were getting slaughtered made me nod my head in appreiciation, in other war films that would have been the moment he reached for his BAR and went gung ho into action. However, the whole reason for the mission, the whole 'go out and grab one guy' was a little far-fetched and a bit too Hollywood IMHO.
The Great Escape - Classic Steve McQueen, the moments in the cooler particularly funny and the 'Good luck' bit particularly cringeworthy ('Noooo!! You got that far why the hell did you have to slip up!!')
Other - The Battle of Britain - This is probably the one I'm gonna vote for here...it's got all the events covered, and covered beautifully. The special effects are good even to this day, the dogfight scenes wonderfully enacted....and when you add to this fact that I'm British and come from the south-east...well, the Battle of Britain has a soft-spot for me.
Hell, even the missus quite enjoyed it.
I haven't seen Cross of Iron or Stalingrad yet (saw part of 'Enemy at the Gates' during a History lesson....wasn't overly impressed) but I will put them on my list to watch.
Salvadoreno
02-22-06, 04:53 PM
I didn't like the D-Day scenes, mainly because of what I thought were too many cliches: The guy gets saved by his helmet, takes it off and immediately takes a second one to the head. The medics save a wounded man, and he immediately takes one to the head.
There are a lot of accounts of men being saved by there helmets only to be shot in the head moments later. Usually the shock from being hit in the head keeps their heads up for another clean shot.. Realism. Grim reality.. LUCK has everything to do with it.
jasondef
02-22-06, 05:06 PM
Das boot is the fav so far in this forum? Who would've thunk it. Its my fav, I also thought Tora! Tora! Tora! is great, and I like private ryan. I hear a lot of British complaining that private ryan is too hollywood, and by watching it you would think it was only americans at normandy, when in fact the majority were British, so maybe Ryan isn't as historically accurate and too hollywood than it should be. But nevertheless entertaining enough to be one of my favorites. The Great Escape is pretty good too.
The Longest Day - Definately a classic, with an all-star cast and some memorable quotes 'Yeah, it takes an Irishman to play the pipes!' 'Wounds my heart with a monotonous langour.'
I've got lunatics laughing at me from the woods. My original plan has been scuppered now that the jeeps haven't arrived. My communications are completely broken down. Do you really believe any of that can be helped by a cup of tea?
Couldn't hurt Sir.
I've got lunatics laughing at me from the woods. My original plan has been scuppered now that the jeeps haven't arrived. My communications are completely broken down. Do you really believe any of that can be helped by a cup of tea?
Couldn't hurt Sir.
:up: :up: :up: :up:
jasondef
02-22-06, 05:23 PM
I would also throw Patton into the mix
andy_311
02-22-06, 06:19 PM
I picked "Cross of Iron" but I have the uncut version that does not have the BBFC certification on it (lucky me).
But there are other's I like:-
The Enemy below
Sink the Bismark
Battle of Brittain
633 Squadron
Were Eagles Dare
The Great Raid
Just to name a few
Tonnage_Ace
02-22-06, 06:20 PM
I picked Saving Private Ryan, just thinking about it, it practically started every WWII shooter up until now. Patton should be on that list and Enemy at the Gates is worth honorable mention(certainly not the best but must see WWII material).
edit: also see Europa Europa
Tonnage_Ace
02-22-06, 06:29 PM
I picked "Cross of Iron" but I have the uncut version that does not have the BBFC certification on it (lucky me).
But there are other's I like:-
The Enemy below
Sink the Bismark
Battle of Brittain
633 Squadron
Were Eagles Dare
The Great Raid
Just to name a few
What is the BBFC cert your talking about? What am I missing with the cut version?
Takeda Shingen
02-22-06, 07:10 PM
Gee, can I vote for Pearl Harbor? :88)
I have to go with the Great Escape. Classic.
Fitz62STG
02-22-06, 07:13 PM
One that would go into the "Other Choice" for me is "In Harms Way" John Wayne, Kirk Douglas and many other featured actors in it. Takes you from Pearl Harbor to 1944 in the Pacific Theater of Operations. I have it on DVD and watch it at least 4 times a year. Just love the movie. Of course there are some liberties taken towards the Hollywood side of things, but I overlook them. In my opinion I think that movie is DAMN GOOD. In fact when my children are old enough (16 - 18 years old) they will be required to watch it. I'm a USN Chief Petty Officer so the discipline in the house is run like it is on a ship. Well at least I think it is, of course the Admiral (aka the WIFE) has ultimate rule so most of my edicts are eventually toned to what she says. LOL Can't be at sea all the time. :lol:
I picked "Cross of Iron" but I have the uncut version that does not have the BBFC certification on it (lucky me).
But there are other's I like:-
The Enemy below
Sink the Bismark
Battle of Brittain
633 Squadron
Were Eagles Dare
The Great Raid
Just to name a few
What is the BBFC cert your talking about? What am I missing with the cut version?
British Board of Film Certification
Sailor Steve
02-22-06, 08:04 PM
I'm a USN Chief Petty Officer...
Uh-oh. I may have to give up my magic hat. I was only a Radioman trainee (Seaman 1st) when I got out in 1970. Looking back over the years, it's good to see someone making a career (even though we young slugs laughed at 'lifers' back in the day.
Crop-Duster
02-22-06, 08:38 PM
Mine's not on the list:
Kelly's Heros
Woof woof woof! :88)
http://www.homevideos.com/revaa/21b.htm
*note this movie was directed by the same guy who directed 'Where Eagles Dare'
"16 million bucks! Have yourelf a bottle of booze baby! You're beautiful!!"
http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/185992.1020.A.jpg
Torplexed
02-22-06, 09:51 PM
Mine's not on the list:
Kelly's Heros
Woof woof woof! :88)
http://www.homevideos.com/revaa/21b.htm
*note this movie was directed by the same guy who directed 'Where Eagles Dare'
"16 million bucks! Have yourelf a bottle of booze baby! You're beautiful!!
"Always with the negative waves Moriarty, always with the negative waves."
Kelly's Heroes...a WW2 flick that had seen the 1960s. :)
ironkross
02-22-06, 09:52 PM
SPR. I liked the Band of Brothers type theme. The D-Day scene at the beginning is a classic.
zombiewolf
02-23-06, 12:51 AM
"Always with the negative waves Moriarty, always with the negative waves."
my favorite line loved Odd Ball the beatnick/hippy moriarty was on the love boat also.
My favorite war movie tho is "Sgt York" and Audy Murphy story "To hell and back."
Inajira
02-23-06, 02:12 AM
Saving Private Ryan definitely my favourite but The Thin Red Line comes a close second, very absorbing and surreal (war is rather surreal after all!).
Salvadoreno
02-23-06, 04:44 AM
[quote="Inajira"]Saving Private Ryan definitely my favourite but The Thin Red Line comes a close second, very absorbing and surreal (war is rather surreal after all!).[/]
Omg i loved The Thin Red Line..
It was more about humanity and effects rather than war.
To quote the dvd box
"To Say this movie is about war is to say that Moby Dick is a novel about whales."
-regarding The Thin Red Line
Inajira
02-23-06, 06:07 AM
It was more about humanity and effects rather than war.
Well insofar as war is a part of humanity (and so, arguably is inhumanity), then the movie is about humanity.
I still reckon its primary focus is war though... kind of like an impressionist's painting of war.
Brilliant movie though... it gradually sucked me in, although Saving Private Ryan had me by the ____s from the start!
kiwi_2005
02-23-06, 06:14 AM
"Enemy at the Gates" About a russian sniper verse german sniper during ww2 in stalingrad. True story.
Rotary Crewman
02-23-06, 06:29 AM
Other - Not a movie, but Band Of Brothers.
Loved every minute and really put the book into pictures for me.
Fitz62STG
02-23-06, 01:25 PM
I'm a USN Chief Petty Officer...
Uh-oh. I may have to give up my magic hat. I was only a Radioman trainee (Seaman 1st) when I got out in 1970. Looking back over the years, it's good to see someone making a career (even though we young slugs laughed at 'lifers' back in the day.
The young guys still call us lifers and try to make fun, but I can usually come up with something even better to quite them down.
in the scenes when you see Steve ride by and then shortly after another motorcycle rides past and guess what, yep its Steve again this time as the german chasing him.
:rotfl:
Type XXIII
02-23-06, 03:31 PM
"Enemy at the Gates" About a russian sniper verse german sniper during ww2 in stalingrad. True story.
:nope:
Vasily Zaitsev has lived and was a sniper in Stalingrad. He never had a duel with a German sniper named König, though.
The movie is also inaccurate on several points. And, IMHO, not among the best war movies.
kiwi_2005
02-23-06, 04:03 PM
Vasily Zaitsev has lived and was a sniper in Stalingrad. He never had a duel with a German sniper named König, though.
The movie is also inaccurate on several points. And, IMHO, not among the best war movies.
I did not know that. :damn:
I still think its the best war movie to ever come out. I suppose thats hollywood for ya, add in a german sniper to make things interesting. :roll:
don1reed
02-23-06, 04:08 PM
I refuse to limit myself to just WWII, so I chose other...
Beside the modern war flicks, I'm also fond of:
"Zulu Dawn", "Zulu",
"For whom the bell tolls",
"The Best Years of their lives",
"The Gladiator",
"Gallipolli",
"Master and Commander on the far side of the world",
Lawrence Olivier in "Henry V"
"The Last of the Mohicans"
"Lawrence of Arabia"...
Obviously the list is limitless.
Cheers,
Rotary Crewman
02-23-06, 04:14 PM
Zulu
NOW WE'RE TALKING!
'Front rank LOOOOAD, rear rank....FIIIRE. ADVARNCE!'
Glorious, glorious film.
winters
02-23-06, 05:16 PM
I refuse to limit myself to just WWII, so I chose other...
Beside the modern war flicks, I'm also fond of:
"Zulu Dawn", "Zulu",
"For whom the bell tolls",
"The Best Years of their lives",
"The Gladiator",
"Gallipolli",
"Master and Commander on the far side of the world",
Lawrence Olivier in "Henry V"
"The Last of the Mohicans"
"Lawrence of Arabia"...
Obviously the list is limitless.
Cheers,
The whole point of this thread is favorite WWII movies. You dont need to refuse to limit yourself, just don't bother posting.
"Enemy at the Gates" About a russian sniper verse german sniper during ww2 in stalingrad. True story.
:nope:
Vasily Zaitsev has lived and was a sniper in Stalingrad. He never had a duel with a German sniper named König, though.
The movie is also inaccurate on several points. And, IMHO, not among the best war movies.
Anthony Beevor in his AMAZING book "Stalingrad" talks about this supposed "duel" between Zaitsev and a top German sniper. He concludes that no such duel did take place although he admits that it is extremely difficult to distinguish fact from fiction during that battle. The culture of sniperism, as he calls it, was a huge propaganda tool for the Soviet army and apparently Zaitsev's most prized possession was a German sniper rifle that he claimed belonged to this German sniper. Beevor is of the opinion that Zaitsev was gently "told" to keep this illusion alive.
I cannot recommend Beevor's book enough...it is my favourite reading whenever I get "down in the dumps". I read it and thank my lucky stars that the problems I have are NOTHING compared to what soldiers on both sides of that battle were forced to endure. Buy it...trust me.
blue3golf
02-23-06, 05:36 PM
Midway is outstanding. There have been so many movies made on the subject ya almost have to pick a different movie for each theatre and also for each branch of service or for each specialty, (infantry, armor, fighter or bomber groups, etc.). Since this is a naval oriented forum though Das Boot is by far the best followed by The Enemy Below.
don1reed
02-23-06, 06:54 PM
@Winters
The whole point of this thread is favorite WWII movies. You dont need to refuse to limit yourself, just don't bother posting.
tnx for expressing so much tolerance.
The "point" I was trying to make is that there are so many great WWII movies, why place a limit on the jackpot. Everyone here has an opinion as to their favorite(s), I was just giving mine. My intension was not to offend, but merely to illuminate.
I trust I remain your friend in U.Boat lore, cheers.
winters
02-23-06, 07:43 PM
i didnt mean to come off so strong, i wish i could have posted a bunch more movies but the board limits you to only 8 so i gave an other option and let people champion for their own personal fave. It's all in good fun anyway, nothing for anyone to get worked up over :up:
Sonarman
02-23-06, 08:00 PM
My favourite ww2 movie is the britflick "The Cruel Sea" based on the real life harrowing exploits of Nicholas Monsarrat. It really illustrates in a graphical way the horrors of war and the lonliness of command.
Although not a WW2 film, from the same studio "A Night to Remember" is by far the best "sinking of the Titanic" film out there.
"San Demetrio London" is another fantastic film about a crew's effort to bring their stricken tanker home after their convoy is attacked in the North Atlantic.
All three of these films were made in the late 1950's in the Uk and are very honest depictions life at sea get them if you can.
Redwine
02-23-06, 08:41 PM
Enemy at the Gates :up:
Apart from Private Ryan, i really prefer and love the story and reallity of Band of brothers....
even bot the colection since it's a truth story and great war eforte from dose guys...
To them i pay mi respects and Thanks....
Nippelspanner
02-24-06, 05:30 PM
Apart from Private Ryan, i really prefer and love the story and reallity of Band of brothers....
Ok, first: im sorry to make some trouble but...
i cant understand that so many ppl think that ryan or bob are one of the best war movies ever.
but that depends what makes a war movie "good"! effects? realism? story?
i like SPR and BoB, but just for the effects/action. the rest is just stupid!
maybe bob and ryan are BASED on reality, but do you really think that a german ss unit (BoB - Crossroads) is "camping" in a field like "hey, here we are! shoot us, were just stupid nazis!".
or do you really believe that cpt. winters was standing uncovered in front of dozens of germans and was shooting without aiming, makes a kill with every shot and wasnt get hit by 10+ germans which are shooting back even from prone positions with rifles, mps etc.???
or in ryan, at the end. one of the allied MG positions. one after another "stupid nazi" was running in the field of fire like brainless robots! take a closer look at those scenes and you will get what i mean! (and there are severel scenes of that kind in both movies!)
as i watched those movies before my army time i didnt care about that, because i didnt realized it. but after it...i was just shaking my head :nope:
the germans or which enemy of the usa ever, are always stupid robots which are making mistakes no SOLDIER would ever do and thats just...ARGH! :hulk:
thats typical for all those american "we are the best, we are heroes " movies.
i like SPR, BoB and co. but i really hate this "picture" the germans are pushed into. dont get me wrong, i dont want to "protect" the nazi regime or anything like this, i just want to say that the german army was not so stupid like SPR and BoB show it, so be careful with..."reality".
whatever, back to topic :roll: :
i think Das Boot is my nr.1 :up:
fredbass
02-24-06, 08:25 PM
The best movie is without a doubt "Band of Brothers", if you consider a 10 part series a movie. :D
Sulikate
02-24-06, 08:54 PM
Das Boot Editor's Cut... just great.
George Winston
02-25-06, 12:48 AM
Nobody mentioned The Bridge On The River Kwai! .
I'm very fond of POW movies and Sir Alec Guinnes simply nails it.
:/\x:
AO1_AW_SW_USN
02-25-06, 01:29 AM
Well at least I think it is, of course the Admiral (aka the WIFE) has ultimate rule so most of my edicts are eventually toned to what she says. LOL Can't be at sea all the time. :lol:
Ahh.... COMNAVWIFEPAC or COMNAVWIFELANT.
I had one too. You may have a CO, XO, DIVO and others... but the most important one in your career is the boss at home.
What's your rate, Chief?
blue3golf
02-25-06, 02:02 AM
Whats my rate?
Depends on the day. :D
AO1_AW_SW_USN
02-25-06, 02:50 AM
Whats my rate?
Depends on the day. :D
lol :rotfl:
It's a US Navy question of what his job speciality is.
jasondef
02-25-06, 03:12 AM
Really? Everyone likes Enemy at the Gates? I guess I'm the only one. I thought the real life story was neat, but the plot that hollywood used surrounding the story was soo predictable and cliche'-ish. I remember toward the end of the movie, we were all actually predicting outloud the next lines of the actors before the actors could say them, with a very high degree of accuracy, and were laughing a couple of times at how predictable, cliche, and cheesy the whole romance and love story was at times! Again, liked the story, but the production value of the movie lacked. Who's with me on this one? Anybody? Please, somebody? Nobody? :()1:
And I must reiterate, the original uncut version of Das Boot is way better than the Director's Cut!!!
And would Indiana Jones be considered a WWII movie? Number 4 is soon on the way, in case you haven't heard!
Rotary Crewman
02-25-06, 06:18 AM
maybe bob and ryan are BASED on reality, but do you really think that a german ss unit (BoB - Crossroads) is "camping" in a field like "hey, here we are! shoot us, were just stupid nazis!".
or do you really believe that cpt. winters was standing uncovered in front of dozens of germans and was shooting without aiming, makes a kill with every shot and wasnt get hit by 10+ germans which are shooting back even from prone positions with rifles, mps etc.???
Have you read the book? Have you seen the interviews? Had you read letters sent to people around the world who witnessed the event?
Dimitrius07
02-25-06, 06:21 AM
Saving Private Ryan :rock: :rock:
Rotary Crewman
02-25-06, 06:53 AM
In the lead, Winters got to the road first. He leaped up on it. Right in front of him, only a few feet away, was a German sentry with his head down, ducking the incoming fire from Reese's machine-guns. To his right, Winters could see out of the corner of his eye a solid mass of men, more than 100, packed together, lying down at the juncture of the dike and the road. They too had their heads down to duck under the machine-gun fire. They were all wearing long winter overcoats and had their backpacks on. Every single one of them was facing the dike; he was behind them. They were only 15 meters away.
Thats the scene set.
Winters wheeled and dropped back to the west side of the road, pulled a pin of a hand grenade, and lobbed it over toward the lone sentry. Simultaneously the sentry lobbed a potato masher back at him. The instant Winters threw his grenade he realized he had made a big mistake; he had forgotten to take off the band of tape around the handle of the grenade he kept there to avoid an accident.
Before the potato masher could go off, Winters jumped back up on the road. The sentry was hunched down, covering his head with his arms, waiting for Winters's grenade to go off. He was only 3 yards away. Winters shot him with his M-1 from the hip.
The shot startled the entire company. The SS troops started to rise and turn towards Winters, en masse. Winters pivoted to his right and fired into the solid mass.
Winters described what happened next: "The movements of the Germans seemed to be unreal to me. When they rose up, it seemed to be so slow, when they turned to look over their shoulders at me, it was in slow motion, when they started to raise their rifles to fire at me, it was in slow, slow motion. I emptied the first clip [eight rounds] and, still standing in the middle of the road, put in the second clip and, still shooting from the hip, emptied that clip into the mass."
Germans fell. Others began aiming their rifles at Winters. Others started running away from him. But all their movements were awkward, hampered by those long overcoasts.
And finally, where were his other men??
He dropped back to the west side of the road. Looking to his right he could see Talbert running crouched over leading his column. It was still 10 meters from the road. Winters's own column , in the middle, was struggling through the field. Peacock's column on the left was 20 meters short of the road, held up by some wires running across the field.
That will do to make me feel better that he was uncovered shooting and shooting at germans and 10+ didn't manage to shoot him back. Or 100+ or however many Winters said were there. Bloody liar he was :roll:
Fitz62STG
02-25-06, 07:42 AM
Well at least I think it is, of course the Admiral (aka the WIFE) has ultimate rule so most of my edicts are eventually toned to what she says. LOL Can't be at sea all the time. :lol:
Ahh.... COMNAVWIFEPAC or COMNAVWIFELANT.
I had one too. You may have a CO, XO, DIVO and others... but the most important one in your career is the boss at home.
What's your rate, Chief?
I'm an STGC (Sonar Technician Surface). Currently she prefers the title COMNAVWIFELANT or SUPREME WIFE COMMANDER. Depends on her mood.
winters
02-25-06, 09:31 AM
In the lead, Winters got to the road first. He leaped up on it. Right in front of him, only a few feet away, was a German sentry with his head down, ducking the incoming fire from Reese's machine-guns. To his right, Winters could see out of the corner of his eye a solid mass of men, more than 100, packed together, lying down at the juncture of the dike and the road. They too had their heads down to duck under the machine-gun fire. They were all wearing long winter overcoats and had their backpacks on. Every single one of them was facing the dike; he was behind them. They were only 15 meters away.
Thats the scene set.
Winters wheeled and dropped back to the west side of the road, pulled a pin of a hand grenade, and lobbed it over toward the lone sentry. Simultaneously the sentry lobbed a potato masher back at him. The instant Winters threw his grenade he realized he had made a big mistake; he had forgotten to take off the band of tape around the handle of the grenade he kept there to avoid an accident.
Before the potato masher could go off, Winters jumped back up on the road. The sentry was hunched down, covering his head with his arms, waiting for Winters's grenade to go off. He was only 3 yards away. Winters shot him with his M-1 from the hip.
The shot startled the entire company. The SS troops started to rise and turn towards Winters, en masse. Winters pivoted to his right and fired into the solid mass.
Winters described what happened next: "The movements of the Germans seemed to be unreal to me. When they rose up, it seemed to be so slow, when they turned to look over their shoulders at me, it was in slow motion, when they started to raise their rifles to fire at me, it was in slow, slow motion. I emptied the first clip [eight rounds] and, still standing in the middle of the road, put in the second clip and, still shooting from the hip, emptied that clip into the mass."
Germans fell. Others began aiming their rifles at Winters. Others started running away from him. But all their movements were awkward, hampered by those long overcoasts.
And finally, where were his other men??
He dropped back to the west side of the road. Looking to his right he could see Talbert running crouched over leading his column. It was still 10 meters from the road. Winters's own column , in the middle, was struggling through the field. Peacock's column on the left was 20 meters short of the road, held up by some wires running across the field.
That will do to make me feel better that he was uncovered shooting and shooting at germans and 10+ didn't manage to shoot him back. Or 100+ or however many Winters said were there. Bloody liar he was :roll:
I would tend to believe the guys who were there and witnessed the action rather than some people on a gaming forum, it has been well documented. I am sorry some of you can't believe that yes some Germans were stupid and sat around in a field waiting to die.
Just because your in the military doesnt make you a genius. Just ask some survivors of Arnhem what they think of Montys plan. You would think a British General wouldnt be stupid enough to drop his troops 8!!!! miles away from the target and ignore photographs that clearly showed German Tanks sitting camoflagued in the woods.
Every part of BoB was made from the real life accounts of the guys who fought, each episode has a rundown of whats going on by one of the guys who were there, and in the "Crossroads" episode you will notice that the guys in the beginning of the episode (none of whom are Dick Winters) all confirmed what he did on that day.
There are even several other documentaries that support what happened on that day, and they are also told by the men who fought that day.
I may be quoting "Rotary Crewmans" post but this is directed at EVERYONE who thinks BoB is a pile of rubbish. This action happened, maybe not to the degree portrayed in the show but it did happen nonetheless, accept it and move on.
winters
02-25-06, 09:35 AM
Really? Everyone likes Enemy at the Gates? I guess I'm the only one. I thought the real life story was neat, but the plot that hollywood used surrounding the story was soo predictable and cliche'-ish. I remember toward the end of the movie, we were all actually predicting outloud the next lines of the actors before the actors could say them, with a very high degree of accuracy, and were laughing a couple of times at how predictable, cliche, and cheesy the whole romance and love story was at times! Again, liked the story, but the production value of the movie lacked. Who's with me on this one? Anybody? Please, somebody? Nobody? :()1:
And I must reiterate, the original uncut version of Das Boot is way better than the Director's Cut!!!
And would Indiana Jones be considered a WWII movie? Number 4 is soon on the way, in case you haven't heard!
I am with you Jason, Enemy at the Gates was utter rubbish, British actors are playing Russians and speaking with british accents and the main German is played by American Ed Harris, talk about a piece of crap. Aside from the opening scene (crossing the Volga) it was a real piece of crap.
Stalingrad was done much better.
irish1958
02-25-06, 09:43 AM
1) Das Boot
2)Tora, Tora, Tora
3)Midway
4)In Harm's Way
5)Saving Private Ryan
6)BOB
7)Longest Day
8)Bridge on the River Kwai
9)All's Quite on the Western Front (not WWII, but what the Hell)
10)Henry V
irish1958
winters
02-25-06, 09:47 AM
Nice list Irish, i wish i couldve had more than 8 options to list, but i will add up the "others" soon enough to make a better tally of what everyones been posting for that one.
@All - How about shifting the focus here a bit and having a top 5 list? i could add them all up after say 30 days and post the list of the favorite WWII movies as voted on by the forum members.
Sarge4109
02-25-06, 10:26 AM
Saving Private Ryan
I have never seen Das Boot..need to get around to that :shifty:
I understand, one can not change the others tasts for a movie and what exactelly makes him the best or not...
But if you know History, about the Band of Brothers and 101 Air borne units, and 502 , will know that the series or ,parts, or the all thing are actually based on real events... :up:
some picks of that day to remenber...
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http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8195/s8007sm9fw.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/913/looking4ou.jpg
For info, the crossrads parte, in real life, the german batellion was camped at the crossrads section cause they also didn't had the nolidge of the sise of the American force that they had in front, so they were kind of using the "sonar" and "Hidrophones" trying to understand the sise of the american force, so they took to much time and it was to late for some of them, as for the rest of the batallion, if you saw the part, you will know that made a kind of smart retreat and regruping for atacking hours after the other 502 company and destroy it almost completly...
I stick to Band of Brothers :up:
AO1_AW_SW_USN
02-26-06, 01:54 AM
Well at least I think it is, of course the Admiral (aka the WIFE) has ultimate rule so most of my edicts are eventually toned to what she says. LOL Can't be at sea all the time. :lol:
Ahh.... COMNAVWIFEPAC or COMNAVWIFELANT.
I had one too. You may have a CO, XO, DIVO and others... but the most important one in your career is the boss at home.
What's your rate, Chief?
I'm an STGC (Sonar Technician Surface). Currently she prefers the title COMNAVWIFELANT or SUPREME WIFE COMMANDER. Depends on her mood.
Well, I hope that she stays away from the Wives Club. You think German propaganda was bad in WWII, check that place out.
BTW. I was an Airdale working as an Aviation Ordnanceman (AO1). I popped four disks in my back during Operation Enduring Freedom while moving a GBU-31 JDAM. They couldn't fix me so they sent me home with a medical retirement. It's sad... I really miss being at sea.
On Topic:
1. Band of Brothers
2. The Longest Day
3. The Dirty Dozen
4. Tora Tora Tora
5. Hitler: The Final Ten Days (with Sir Alec Guinness)
Type XXIII
02-26-06, 08:09 AM
Nobody mentioned The Bridge On The River Kwai! .
I'm very fond of POW movies and Sir Alec Guinnes simply nails it.
:/\x:
Bridge On River Kwai was a very good movie indeed.
Have you seen To End All Wars? If you like POW movies, it's a must see.
sunvalleyslim
10-02-07, 12:16 AM
IF Das Boot isn't your favorite, Man ou need another forum.............:D
Kaleun_Saxi
10-02-07, 03:48 AM
I love Das Boot and many other WWII movies.
Being a German it's difficult to find any movie that doesn't show the Germans as the bad guys and glorifies the Allies. Therefore I like movies that are more into comradeship, bravery and how bad the war itself is and so on. One of my fav is "Bridge of Remagen", another one "Duell in the Atlantic" (sorry, is that the official title?) with Curd Jurgens as a sub commander in a thrilling duell with a DD.
I also like the US vs. Jap ones, like Tora Tora Tora.
And, of course, "Operation Petticoat" ;)
Zero Niner
10-02-07, 03:54 AM
From the list, I picked A Bridge Too Far.
But I really prefer Band of Brothers...
Huskalar
10-02-07, 05:21 AM
1. Der Untergang
2. Das Boot
3. Cross of Iron
4. Stalingrad
Somehow I seem to prefer 'German' WW2 movies. :hmm:
Spruence M
10-02-07, 12:24 PM
Other
I cannot choose my favorite WWII movie.
IMPOSSIBLE
Frenssen
10-08-07, 05:12 AM
Das Boot
Talvisota (Finnish movie about the Winter War)
Letters from Iwo Jima gets honorable mention.
capt-jones
10-08-07, 10:11 AM
;) well from that list, for me its gotta be "das boot" its just a sub thing
:know: my other choice not listed is "the battle of the bulge" dont ask why its just a tank thing :rotfl:
Other: The Cruel Sea Good Film Great Book. Perhaps not so good for action, but for human drama almost intolerably intense.
Sailor Steve
10-08-07, 11:03 AM
And another one gets resurrected from the past...but it's a good one, so I'm not complaining.
I also noticed that while I listed my criticism of Saving Private Ryan, I didn't actually vote or name a favorite. My favorite would be Tora! Tora! Tora!, followed by Das Boot.
I love Das Boot and many other WWII movies.
Being a German it's difficult to find any movie that doesn't show the Germans as the bad guys and glorifies the Allies. Therefore I like movies that are more into comradeship, bravery and how bad the war itself is and so on. One of my fav is "Bridge of Remagen", another one "Duell in the Atlantic" (sorry, is that the official title?) with Curd Jurgens as a sub commander in a thrilling duell with a DD.
I also like the US vs. Jap ones, like Tora Tora Tora.
And, of course, "Operation Petticoat" ;)
The Longest Day and its sequel, A Bridge Too Far, both show the respective battles from both sides, with the triumphs and blunders equally shared; much like Tora! Tora! Tora! You might like them.
And the Curt Jurgens/Robert Mitchum movie was The Enemy Below.
Bismarck
10-08-07, 11:20 AM
Great Escape
Well i havent voted cause i have more then 1 fav movies of ww2. This would be : Das Boot, Stalingrad (both in original audio with subtitles). Then ofcourse Band of brothers and the last one is Schindlers list.
Kptlt. Neuerburg
10-08-07, 03:09 PM
Das Boot has to be one of the most realistic WWII movies about German U-Boats I've ever seen. The others are The Enemy Below and U-571. But The Enemy Below used an American sub( look at the hatches inside the boat) and not a German one it was a good try though. And the U-571 was a bunch of crap concidering the British captured the Engmia machine first.
Hakahura
10-08-07, 03:43 PM
Other...
The Dam Busters.
Goose_green
10-08-07, 05:58 PM
I chose "other", it's too difficult to decide which one is my all time favourite, they are all equally good in their own way. I have always liked Where Eagles Dare, Midway and The Longest Day mainly from childhood, but of late I have really enjoyed Black Book and Downfall - slightly different take on the traditional war film dealing with battles or campaigns. And, of course you can't forget Band of Brothers even though it's not a film but a mini series.
Too many to choose from:-?
GoldenRivet
10-08-07, 07:02 PM
hahaha what was the point of reviving this thread after such a long dormancy?
Thread was started Feb 2006
The latest posting date other than the "revival posts" was February 26, 2006! :damn:
someone got bored and went digging really DEEP for this thread late one night!
silentrunner
10-08-07, 08:13 PM
Das boot is cool but come on the king of cool!http://www.stevemcqueen.org.uk/Steve.jpg
Petsman
10-09-07, 04:16 AM
S.P. Ryan and the battle of midway.
Das Boot
Come and See (russian movie, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091251/)
Jimbuna
10-09-07, 02:47 PM
There are so many....it would be kinda hard to choose :hmm:
panzer 49th
10-09-07, 05:33 PM
Other-Band Of Brothers
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
10-09-07, 08:06 PM
Das Boot, no doubt! :yep:
have some others but i dont like them
Blacklight
10-10-07, 01:55 PM
I have to vote for Das Boot. First off, that movie really made my nose twitch. You could literally SEE the stink on the sub crew. Not only that.. just watching it made me clausterphobic and edgy through the whole thing. Not many movies can do that.
Jimbuna
10-10-07, 03:00 PM
Das Boot, no doubt! :yep:
have some others but i dont like them
Pirates of the Caribbean perhaps :hmm:
bigboywooly
10-10-07, 03:22 PM
Soooo many not on there
Dambusters
633 squadron
Schindlers list
Tora x3
plus all Steve has mentioned
lol
Stalingrad is a cool film but went with Das Boot
Have watched over and over again
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr - Das Boot, no doubt! :yep:
have some others but i dont like them
10,000 Deck gun shells under the sea ?
Or is that leagues
:rotfl:
bigboywooly
10-10-07, 04:42 PM
Das Boot, no doubt! :yep:
have some others but i dont like them
Pirates of the Caribbean perhaps :hmm:
Pirates of the Warez
Priceless
Oops
Sorry Caribbean
Kaleun Klink
10-11-07, 04:10 PM
Yep, there are a lot of great WWII movies out there with gripping sub/surface/air action -- but my favorite focuses on a more human dimension: Mr. Roberts, with Henry Fonda.
seaniam81
10-11-07, 09:57 PM
Battle of Britain but Das Boot very close second.
Jimbuna
10-12-07, 12:18 PM
The Pianist
it takes me weeks to recover every time I see it
A bit suprised Schindlers List isn't on the list either :hmm:
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
10-12-07, 01:23 PM
Soooo many not on there
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr - Das Boot, no doubt! :yep:
have some others but i dont like them
10,000 Deck gun shells under the sea ?
Or is that leagues
:rotfl:
:stare: no!
the others i have:
Der Untergang (yuk)
The Enemy Below (yuk)
The Bunker (yuk)
Road To Birma (yuk)
S.P Ryan (yuk)
Band Of Brothers (yuk... got only a few of it)
Das Boot (:rock::rock::rock:)
documentary's:
Hitlers bunker (interesting but yuk)
The holocoust (yuk ?)
U-boat War (verry interesting)
@ jim, no i dont have Pirates Of The Carrabean
Biggles
10-12-07, 03:59 PM
SPR is great.
But, Downfall is one of the best movies ever. Bruno Ganz is performing his role with so perfection that I'm almost scared when I watch it....
EZeemering
10-12-07, 06:33 PM
I voted other. Das Boot and SPR are great movies, tho I dont consider Das Boot really as a war movie. But these 2 are surpassed by Schindler's List and Die Brucke (the Bridge) But its all a close call, there are many good ww2 movies out there.
seafarer
10-12-07, 08:02 PM
I can never answer these kind of polls, as I enjoy so many movies of the genre, I cannot pick just one as my absolute favorite. It's like being asked what's your favorite book - I mean geeze, I've read hundreds and hundreds of books in my life, and you expect me to have just one, single favorite?
So, for a "what the heck" vote, I'll nominate "Kelly's Heroes", just because it was such a quirky war movie (and I watched it last weekend - have the DVD).
Kongo Otto
10-13-07, 01:38 PM
others- i choosed "The Dam Busters"
Good old Black and white movie with Richard Todd.
Another one of my Favorite WW2 movies is "Twelve
O´Clock High" with Gregory Peck.
Both i have in my CD Collection among many others.
Biggles
10-13-07, 06:10 PM
Schindlers list. Damn, forgot about that one...best movie ever....
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