An increase of n00bs?

[Salvadoreno]

Seems like this month there has been at least 400 new posts by 30 new additions to our forums. Where did this come from?? I mean, its cool seeing some supporters of SH3 but when the forum is bogged down with questions like "how do i fire a torpedo", "why does my ship die when depth charged" and "where is the steering wheel" its gets a little much...

Please if your new, research. The sticky's at the top of the thread are more than helpful..

jeez was i this annoying when I first started? (some1 say no)

[rcs929]

bah I just posted questions too, sorry to be annoying :cry:

[JonZ]

why my torpedoes miss when I shoot destroyers coming after me ?!?

[Dantenoc]

Two problems are causing much of this:

1) The main reason: the mediocre panflet that SHIII calls a manual
2) To a lesser degree: the lack of a robust search engine for this forum

But your right, most of the questions would be answered if people read the Wiki manual

[-Dreadnought-]

Well, I can´t really call myself a hardcore proffessional, but I´ve noticed it too...
Some questions are simple to get answers to if you watch the game tutorial videos or read the manual.
I´ve read the manual a few times over and it was easy to start playing a campaign after that... :know:

[Salvadoreno]

why my torpedoes miss when I shoot destroyers coming after me ?!?

:rotfl: :rotfl:


wait..that WAS a joke right?

[kiwi_2005]

why my torpedoes miss when I shoot destroyers coming after me ?!?

Cos SH3 is not a Arcade game :rotfl: So sometimes you will miss. Practice makes more practice.

Just keep trying.

[JScones]

2) To a lesser degree: the lack of a robust search engine for this forum
Hasn't this been fixed now? I have *no* problems finding the 100 or so "which mods should I get" threads. In fact, on average there's about one new one started every second day.

Seriously, in the last few weeks I've noticed the search engine working much better than it was late last year.

[JScones]

why my torpedoes miss when I shoot destroyers coming after me ?!?
Try watching via the Nav Map a homing torpedo find its target. So funny to watch it duck and weave. Sunk a DD with one last patrol.

[rcs929]

I tend to stay away from DDs for a few reasons. But I do have one as a kill as well. I shot it as it was turning ahead of me and gave the dive command, it hit the dive was not needed. So far I would not even attempt it while manual shooting unless I had an acoustic torp. I am in 1940 again.

[Salvadoreno]

I tend to stay away from DDs for a few reasons. But I do have one as a kill as well. I shot it as it was turning ahead of me and gave the dive command, it hit the dive was not needed. So far I would not even attempt it while manual shooting unless I had an acoustic torp. I am in 1940 again.

wow i just realized... i NEVER shot at a DD before... NEVER EVEN ATTEMPTED to shoot at one... wow.. i have to change that. If i am going to shoot at a DD im going to use Das Boot methods. Open tubes 1-3 and spread the shots.. 1 has to hit, and its worth hitting a DD...

[JScones]

Not worth it for a measly 950 or so tons. Waste your torp on a coastal merchant instead.

[The Avon Lady]

Not worth it for a measly 950 or so tons. Waste your torp on a coastal merchant instead.
Well it really depends, doesn't it?

As the war years go by, convoys have more and better escorts guarding them. Eliminating a fast destroyer or frigate might open up a convoy's defensive shield enough to rack up some very heavy tonnage.

I agree that a major problem here is that SubSim's search index is very incomplete.

Newbies can bookmark my SH3 FAQ page (http://www.theavonlady.org/thesh3faq/), which gives them the essential links needed for getting started. That's what I made it for. :yep:

[JScones]

You'd waste three torps on one destroyer just on the off chance that a) you'll sink it and b) it will create a hole that the remaining 4 or so destroyers won't fill? :hmm:

Maybe I'm just too risk adverse. I'd rather just shoot them blindly into the convoy. It wouldn't be the first time I've sunk a ship I wasn't aiming for. :oops:

[The Avon Lady]

You'd waste three torps on one destroyer just on the off chance that a) you'll sink it and b) it will create a hole that the remaining 4 or so destroyers won't fill? :hmm:

Maybe I'm just too risk adverse. I'd rather just shoot them blindly into the convoy. It wouldn't be the first time I've sunk a ship I wasn't aiming for. :oops:
I would never dream of wasting 3 torps on a destroyer.

I'm referring to targetting a DE or DD when your Uboat is not detected, when you can determine that the escorts pattern of movement. If you have this opportunity, it is not so difficult to bag the escort with a single torpedo.

Any other time is indeed massively risky and a likely waste of eels.

[Deimos01]

Now now, lets not be hasty we were all dumb newbs once upon a time, some dumber than others but newbs none the less :know:

I think first we must clarify.

A Newb is someone who just doesnt know. A newb can be taught.

A Noob is someone who just doesnt know, never will know and never knew in the first place. A Noob cant be taught.

So just cause someone comes on here and post a question thats been asked a thousand times doesnt mean they are a Noob. They could just be a lazy Newb. :lol: :-j

In either case they should be properly ridiculed then we must take the time to instruct them in good forum edicate and hygene lest they continue to dirty up these boards with dead horse beaten posts. :up:

[JScones]

For some reason I've been getting one "free" T5 torpedo per patrol since late '41, despite them not being available until Jan 43 and with a 500 renown price tag attached.

I tested one out against a destroyer last patrol. Awesome to watch the thing in action. DD never stood a chance. It was all over him like an All Black forward (as in NZ Rugby team - I'd say Wallaby forward, but then people would think I'm joking).

Of course, in hindsight, I realised that my mesmerising could have cost me my sub if indeed the torpedo decided to "come home".

But I don't think I'll use one in that fashion again, unless I'm really in trouble.

[gdogghenrikson]

A Newb is someone who just doesnt know. A newb can be taught.

A Noob is someone who just doesnt know, never will know and never knew in the first place. A Noob cant be taught.

aint that the trueth

[kiwi_2005]

Salvadoreno, your sig is very dark i can't see a thing? or is it suppose to be like that :hmm:

[John Channing]

New players are the lifeblood of our hobby. Without them sub sims will surely wither and die. As well Subsim.com has the reputation of being among the best sim sites anywhere and the people who populate these forums are one of the main reasons.

New players, even when asking some of the most basic questions, have always been welcomed and answered to the best of our ability. That's what had made this place special. I see no reason that should not continue.

We were all new players needing help once.

JCC

[Wolfram]

:ahoy:

Most always I try to help the new commanders - I think BdU would approve of the senior officers guiding the new Kaleun.

If I do not know the answer I at least can steer them to all the great references.

Another reason may be the inherent "safety" of being an SP game -- exception to WAW -- there are no online personality conflicts other than some minor rebuffs at accomplishments. The nature of the game lends itself to personalized play. Where in some MMP everything is "set" and standardized. Then people in MMP tend to compete so fiercely they spill anger over others in their attempt to lay claim to being the "best."

While here at SH3 we all share a single enemy, granted AI, but still that is a unifying theme we all can adhere to, a common enemy. We foster and engender learning and even a sense of teamwork Vs that enemy.

BTW for me I am learning everyday and each time I play I gain something from the knowledge base, the living data base gathered here at Subsim.

My hats off to Uncle Neal, the moderators and even more the general population for educating and entertaining me all at the same time.

LOL me? A fanatic even now? Yes! I confess being so obsessed with SH3 during my vacation in Europe last Spring 2005 I went to Laboe and nearly collapsed being overcome with joy when I lay upon the Captain's bunk, to touch the observation scope, to stand on the very place that represents so much history - truly an emotional 3 hours I spent at the place...so much imagery I transfer to the game and now I walk the length of my Type VII in the game in awe at the accomplishments of the Kriegsmariner U-boat men. (oops I digress)

The community we are building here is something special gentlemen and ladies (how can I not mention here our favorite lady of the sea The Avon Lady :) )

Please keep coming new players this place is unlike any I have seen....

:lurk:

[irish1958]

Well said, Wolfram.
irish1958

[Crop-Duster]

I blame the sudden influx of n00bs do to SH3 as Christmas presents :-j

[U-Dog]

Newbies can bookmark my SH3 FAQ page, which gives them the essential links needed for getting started. That's what I made it for. yep
_________________
The Avon Lady

Very nice site, just getting back into SH3 myself. After several months away the number of new mods etc is overwhelming.

A tip of the hat to all the fine folks here who help out Newbs and Newb questions.

:ping:

[Salvadoreno]

Salvadoreno, your sig is very dark i can't see a thing? or is it suppose to be like that :hmm:

No, i dont know why my pics end up the way they do when i take screenshots. Looks horrible! I gotta fix it.

[Mowgli]

Hi guys,

Im new to Silent Hunter III and was wondering why when I go on Patrol, the Royal Navy keep trying to sink my U-Boat.

I do not attack English ships so why do they keep doing this?

We should all live in Peace. Except for the French. We should all attack the French. :arrgh!:

[DMarkwick]

I guess I'm spoiled, I came here from another nice site (frugalsworld.com) where the guy who owns it maintains a philosophy that anyone can ask any question on a sim, no matter the nature of it and people WILL answer in a straight-up, polite way, because that is the purpose of the forums. Now, people who reply might well link to a previous post, but most people answer in the first person, and will thus gather the new poster more into the folds :)

I think demanding that new members must first scour the search facility not only discourages, but it also removes a perfectly good excuse for a new member to become known to old members.

[NeonSamurai]

I personaly never have had a problem answering questions from new players, and lets face it using forum search engines can be a pain to use in trying to find the answer to your specific question.

However i do think new subsim people should at least read the stickies first before asking (the stickies will usualy either contain the answer, or a link to it for most basic questions). :)

Oh and frugalsworld.com is a good site too even if it mainly is aimed at one game (falcon 4)

[Wulfmann]

I would answers newbe questions more often if I had the answers myself :rotfl:

When a new Kaleun shows up (Post count?) the fact he wants contact is as important as the answer. Knowing he has a group that he can come to is a big part of the experience.

As for targeting DDs, well, I prefer not to. If I do I agree one fish should do it on a set up but when threatened I use 2 in self defense.
If I am firing at an escort I have already screwed up, IMO as I need to sneak in to a convoy not blast my way in. Besides all my escorts are now 3 or 4 crew rated and I have added many more escorts to the convoys. When I sink a DD that brings 3 or 4 criss crossing me.
I had one surprise me from behind a C3 and he threw DCs as I watched. I said, "This is not good" as they hit right near my peri and I realized I was at 1.5 mag!!!! I went to the crew page and it quickly looked like Red Square on May Day.
In 1943 a convoy usually has 8-10 escorts (My editing, not stock or RUB), sinking one cuts my chances of success by just shy of 100% to worse. However, once discovered sinking one may allow me the chance to survive which should be priority number one. Be more aggressive my ars!

Wulfmann

[John Channing]

I guess I'm spoiled, I came here from another nice site (frugalsworld.com) where the guy who owns it maintains a philosophy that anyone can ask any question on a sim, no matter the nature of it and people WILL answer in a straight-up, polite way, because that is the purpose of the forums.

Just don't compare Lock-On to Falcon!

Couldn't resist!

JCC

[NeonSamurai]

Can i compare falcon to lockon? :D (personaly i much prefer falcon 4 AF over Lock On), but im hardcore what can i say ;)

[John Channing]

Can i compare falcon to lockon? :D (personaly i much prefer falcon 4 AF over Lock On), but im hardcore what can i say ;)

You can do anything you want here as long as you do it in an adult and respectful way (in the appropriate forum of course and with an eye to the rules and regs.).

I was making a point about the type of reaction you get at Frugalsworld if you say anything good about Lock-on.

JCC

[NeonSamurai]

Hehe i know i was teasin :P

[jasondef]

Why don't we get a sticky going about what are the best must-have mods? I see that question pop up several times lately, but the newest of those questions are not getting answered like they used to (I agree, people are probably tired of seeing them so they don't bother replying anymore) I just started adding mods a week ago, and it was too time consuming trying to find the good threads using the search. Should be a sticky!

[Tonnage_Ace]

I just go in to this game(don't play sims at all) about a month and a half ago but I wouldn't consider myself a n00b so don't let my post count fool you. I spent like six hours working on wiki's plotting manual figuring out which method I like better and memorizing it so I didn't have to alt-tab back and forth. But until I made my first post, mostly answering n00bs questions, I read all yours. Really great community(thanks avon for the mod list, to give me a head start, keep updating them!) and no question needs repeating so I'll help someone but only if they've obviously given a concerted effort to help themselves. Oh and BTW, how do I change my base to Vancouver, no flotilla lists it and it'd be kinda neat.

[Salvadoreno]

Vancover? huh?? You can only transfer to Wilmshaven, Toulon, Brest, LA Spezia, Kiel, Bergen, La ROchelle, Lorient, and 1 other i cannot think of. Those are the only ports i thought u could get too.

[CCIP]

Oh and BTW, how do I change my base to Vancouver, no flotilla lists it and it'd be kinda neat.

:rotfl:

Last time I checked, Canada wasn't on the Axis side, and SHIII didn't have much shipping in the Pacific :P

[Viduka]

Not worth it for a measly 950 or so tons. Waste your torp on a coastal merchant instead.

I was of the opinion it's better to prioritize your targets based on how much reknown it's going to earn you and a DD(?) is surely worth more than a coastal merchant? *reference below* (Sorry i'm not familar with the DD acronym, i'm assuming it's a destroyer of some variety.)

Either way - it's always cooler watching a military ship going up in smoke :up:

Taken from the wikipedia:

Renown per ship
Warships

King George Battleship = 1500
Nelson Battleship = 1400
Revenge Battleship = 1100
Illustrious Carrier = 900
Hipper Carrier = 760
Bogue Carrier = 560
Casablanca Carrier = 420
AuxiliaryCruiser = 420
Fiji Class Cruiser = 430
Dido Class Cruiser = 225
Fletcher Destroyer = 150
Somers Destroyer = 140
Tribal Destroyer = 140
C & D Destroyer = 130
J Class Destroyer = 130
Soldati Destroyer = 130
Buckley Class Destroyer = 130
J.C. Butler Class Destroyer = 130
River Class Destroyer Escort = 130
Black Swan Frigate = 125
Evarts Destroyer = 120
Clemson Destroyer = 120
Hunt I Destroyer = 120
Hunt II Destroyer = 120
Hunt III Destroyer = 120
V&W Class Destroyer = 120
Flower Corvette = 120
Armed Trawler = 30
Elco Torpedoboat = 20
Merchants

Passenger Liner = 870
Troop Transport = 390
T3 Tanker = 340
T2 Tanker = 320
C3 Cargo = 240
Victory Cargo = 230
Liberty Cargo = 220
Landing Ship Tank = 220
C2 Cargo = 190
Small Tanker = 125
Small Merchant = 70
Coastal Merchant = 60
TugBoat = 30
Trawler = 20
Small Coastal Vessel = 20
Fishingboat = 20


On a side note - I encountered my first convoy last night. Set myself up to take out as many as possible at 90 degrees on manual targeting.

I decided on taking out the leading escort (a rather large destroyer) and fired the rest off at the freighters, sinking 2 and damaging one.

The problem was that after that they all start varying their course, not to mention the remaing escorts all come after you then. (The fire, smoke and sound of grinding metal is all a bit of a giveaway!)

Any tips on taking out the rest of the convoy once my torps have been reloaded for a 2nd round? I suppose I could go under and cruise along with them until they've forgotten about me... :hmm:

[Tonnage_Ace]

Vancover? huh?? You can only transfer to Wilmshaven, Toulon, Brest, LA Spezia, Kiel, Bergen, La ROchelle, Lorient, and 1 other i cannot think of. Those are the only ports i thought u could get too.

Hook, line and sinker Salvadoreno :rotfl:

As far as convoys are concerned, after I saw that Renown guide in community manuals I just go for Troop Transports, Passenger Liners and T3's, plus the odd BB if I see one :arrgh!: . Before I struggled to sink everything even those coastals.

[Salvadoreno]

:dead: :roll: :damn: :zzz:

[Johnson0311]

So much valuable knowledge is on these boards. Sometimes though hard to find. We should never want to hinder new players.

Thats why this subsim has always been especially good in my opinion.

Mature

[JScones]

Not worth it for a measly 950 or so tons. Waste your torp on a coastal merchant instead.

I was of the opinion it's better to prioritize your targets based on how much reknown it's going to earn you and a DD(?) is surely worth more than a coastal merchant?
Depends on what game you're playing. If you're playing the "I want my XXI" SH3 renown game, then yes, choose a DD over a coastal merchant (although if you have a coastal merchant and a DD in the same place, there's every likelyhood you're near a convoy and wouldn't choose to go for either ;)).

If you want to play a more historically aligned game, then you'd go the commerce war and attempt to cripple Britain through starving supplies...which you won't do by sinking destroyers.

But each to their own. It's not my place to dictate.

Bring on the NYGM Tonnage War Mod!!! :up:

[Viduka]

Not worth it for a measly 950 or so tons. Waste your torp on a coastal merchant instead.

I was of the opinion it's better to prioritize your targets based on how much reknown it's going to earn you and a DD(?) is surely worth more than a coastal merchant?
Depends on what game you're playing. If you're playing the "I want my XXI" SH3 renown game, then yes, choose a DD over a coastal merchant (although if you have a coastal merchant and a DD in the same place, there's every likelyhood you're near a convoy and wouldn't choose to go for either ;)).

If you want to play a more historically aligned game, then you'd go the commerce war and attempt to cripple Britain through starving supplies...which you won't do by sinking destroyers.

But each to their own. It's not my place to dictate.

Bring on the NYGM Tonnage War Mod!!! :up:

Yes, you're dead on right about motivation for playing. Right now the best sub i've ever been out to sea in is a VIIB and i'm dying to get my hands on something that I can go a bit further with do a bit more damage.

Having said that, it's not a bad sub, certainly a big step up from the small IIA I started in.

Regardless of reknown - as was said above - for me personally there's a special satisfaction that comes with taking down something that on another day could be sending you to the bottom of the ocean. :yep:

[Karl-Heinz Jaeger]

The problem was that after that they all start varying their course, not to mention the remaing escorts all come after you then. (The fire, smoke and sound of grinding metal is all a bit of a giveaway!)

Any tips on taking out the rest of the convoy once my torps have been reloaded for a 2nd round? I suppose I could go under and cruise along with them until they've forgotten about me... :hmm:

If the convoy is moving in different directions, ie scattering then sooner or later they will all return to their original course and speed. What I do in that instance is to plot an end around intercept course in order to get ahead of the convoy again like this:

1) Firstly I get the convoys mean course and speed. Do this by marking off range and bearing for one particular ship a couple of times to get an accurate course reading, ususlly I use the lead escort. Generally it doesn't matter what ship you use, as they all follow the same course and speed, I use the lead escort since they are easier to pick out of the crowd. It's a lot easier to spot a single Black Swan frigate than a specific C2 in a convoy full of them!! :ping:

2) Then using the Nomograph, work out how far the convoy will travel in a specific time frame, I usually work it out for two or three hours. Quite a lot of the convoys I encounter are travelling at between 7 or 9 knots, and over a two hour period will travel 20-25NM.

3) Now you know a) the convoys course and b) how far it will travel in two hours. Using this information it's easy to plot the convoy's estimated position in two hours time, so it's time to surface and ahead flank around to the estimated position, reloading your externals along the way.

This doesn't work if the convoy reaches it's transit point and changes it's mean course. If that happens you have to start at square one again and work out everything from scratch again. :damn:


Hope this helps!! :ping: :arrgh!: :ping:

[Viduka]

The problem was that after that they all start varying their course, not to mention the remaing escorts all come after you then. (The fire, smoke and sound of grinding metal is all a bit of a giveaway!)

Any tips on taking out the rest of the convoy once my torps have been reloaded for a 2nd round? I suppose I could go under and cruise along with them until they've forgotten about me... :hmm:

If the convoy is moving in different directions, ie scattering then sooner or later they will all return to their original course and speed. What I do in that instance is to plot an end around intercept course in order to get ahead of the convoy again like this:

1) Firstly I get the convoys mean course and speed. Do this by marking off range and bearing for one particular ship a couple of times to get an accurate course reading, ususlly I use the lead escort. Generally it doesn't matter what ship you use, as they all follow the same course and speed, I use the lead escort since they are easier to pick out of the crowd. It's a lot easier to spot a single Black Swan frigate than a specific C2 in a convoy full of them!! :ping:

2) Then using the Nomograph, work out how far the convoy will travel in a specific time frame, I usually work it out for two or three hours. Quite a lot of the convoys I encounter are travelling at between 7 or 9 knots, and over a two hour period will travel 20-25NM.

3) Now you know a) the convoys course and b) how far it will travel in two hours. Using this information it's easy to plot the convoy's estimated position in two hours time, so it's time to surface and ahead flank around to the estimated position, reloading your externals along the way.

This doesn't work if the convoy reaches it's transit point and changes it's mean course. If that happens you have to start at square one again and work out everything from scratch again. :damn:


Hope this helps!! :ping: :arrgh!: :ping:

Thanks for the reply. I guess that's whats so good about finally getting an XXI. 6 bow torpedo tubes to fire off all at once (without reloading) against those convoys. :up:

[Kilamon]

When a new Kaleun shows up (Post count?) the fact he wants contact is as important as the answer. Knowing he has a group that he can come to is a big part of the experience.
As one of the n00bs, I can say that I've actually been reading here now for some 6-8 months and only posted a few times in that, so I'm not a recently gifted christmas player. I think one of my first questions was when I was having a problem iwth video drivers (all my officers, crew were grey blobs) but since then, haven't seen a need to comment on much, though I did help Trenken.

I've started playing again more recently because the 81.98 drivers allow me to play all my games with good performance, including SH3. I'm already up to my 25th patrol in march of 1942. I'm still sailing a VIIC. I've also been using the RUB 1.45, SH3Commander, Merchant skins, Milk Cows and some gramophone stuff. This forum is invaluable as a resource, though the search feature needs a little work.

There are a LOT of links for FAQs, which I refer to often. I'm still learning how to set the acoustic torpedoes (They don't seem to activate and track). I miss the 'fly by wire' torpedoes from 688(i) (and the sonar, and the deeper dives) but I also have SH2 installed and I can recall playing Silent Service on my old commodore 128. Sh3 is definately the better of any of the sub games I've played. This forum makes it even better.

[STEED]

Hi guys,

Im new to Silent Hunter III and was wondering why when I go on Patrol, the Royal Navy keep trying to sink my U-Boat.

I do not attack English ships so why do they keep doing this?

We should all live in Peace. Except for the French. We should all attack the French. :arrgh!:

Well that's not very sporting of the English GO GET THEM IT'S WAR :up:

[Hedges]

I'm a n00b .... can't we all just get along :D

[Oleif]

just to let you guys know, your help is appreciated. Cheers!

[Sailor Steve]

Hi guys,

Im new to Silent Hunter III and was wondering why when I go on Patrol, the Royal Navy keep trying to sink my U-Boat.

I do not attack English ships so why do they keep doing this?
Because we all hate you and keep telling them you're out to assassinate Churchill!

[MarkQuinn]

but when the forum is bogged down with questions like "how do i fire a torpedo", "why does my ship die when depth charged" and "where is the steering wheel" its gets a little much...

I'm a newcomer to SH3 as well, but questions like the ones above (if in fact that kind of thing is really asked) are quite annoying even to my virgin eyes. Why? Because if you read the manual and watch the tutorial vids you have everything you need to know to GET STARTED. Then a combination of playing (practice) and coming here to look for common questions will get you through.

SH3 has the benefit of an extremely slow pace, which means you can read while you play. Print out FAQs and pertinent questions and take them with you into the bunk of your Type VIIB while on a long patrol. Your men will alert you if there's a sighting. Best of all, this is the kind of game which benefits from increased research into the subject (unlike most games where the entire body of knowledge found in the game is all you need to excell). My new favorite Saturday afternoon pasttime is parking my virtual arse in the captain's cabin, sitting my real arse in the chair and leaning back, reading from WOLF PACK by Gordon Williamson with occasional entries from "Sailor Steve's Patrol Logs". And the best part of all, as captain, *I* decide if I want those wartime pop tunes blaring through the boat, or silence.

"How do I fire a torpedo?" and "Where's the steering wheel" smacks of a casual gamer ... NOT a hobbyist, which is what you need to be to succeed in this game and enjoy it to its fullest extent.

BTW, I'm so new I'm still looking for my first campaign kill. Plenty in my examination and single missions, but the "hunter" part of Silent Hunter still eludes me a bit.

MQ

[Quillan]

If you're interested in some more good reading on the subject, try this one out:
http://uboat.net/books/covers/english/u-boat_commanders_handbook.jpg (http://uboat.net/books/item/246)

Click the picture for a link.

[zombiewolf]

Where can I get my poodle clipped in Downey?(Frank Zappa and the mothers "Filmore East")

:|\ sorry had to do it :|\

[MarkQuinn]

If you're interested in some more good reading on the subject, try this one out:


WOW! Like a gift from heaven. Thank you. Good site, that, also.

Since posting, I did in fact sink my first campaign vessel. 9 of them in fact, totalling 43k. I take no credit. BdU in its great wisdom sent me to AM18 where miraculously a large convoy was on the way out as I was on the way in. It was a shooting gallery. Even the captain of a freshly installed copy of SH3, looking for the steering wheel and trying to figure out how to fire the torpedos couldn't help but pick off two or three. The convoy's lone destroyer escort was inept at best. I ran out of shells and started using the anti-aircraft shells. They seem to do damage, by the way. I ran out of all but one torpedo which I saved for the mandatory 24 hour patrol and the trip home. Fired it at a coastal merchant somewhere north of Scapa Flow and missed. Returned home.

Boy, was I ever disappointed to find myself with double the tonnage of the second highest "ace" and receive little more than a thousand renown. It's all but used up after recruiting a couple replacement officers. I hope renown grows exponentially as you gain fame and etch a couple more patrol notches on your belt. Regardless, best game I ever played. If they made this for the age of sail I think I might quit my job and die in front of the monitor after 72 hours of straight play.

I will get that book. Thanks again. It will stay next to me at all times.

MQ

[Wolfram]

Where can I get my poodle clipped in Downey?(Frank Zappa and the mothers "Filmore East")

:|\ sorry had to do it :|\

Tool!

:rotfl:

:lurk:

[jimmie]

Where can I get my poodle clipped in Downey?(Frank Zappa and the mothers "Filmore East")

:|\ sorry had to do it :|\

hey we used to play zombiewolf in my band decades ago :D

[raymond6751]

Only newbees post foolish questions and comments!

Not!

For every question posted here, there might be 50 people who just wondered the same thing. One answer helps them all. For those who aren't familiar with forum operations or the internet - some patience is needed.

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[zombiewolf]

Where can I get my poodle clipped in Downey?(Frank Zappa and the mothers "Filmore East")

:|\ sorry had to do it :|\

hey we used to play zombiewolf in my band decades ago :D

I always get confused on the album the cartoon says zombieWOOF.
I always thought it was The Zombiewolf.
You play the axe as good as "FZ"? :|\

[jimmie]

Where can I get my poodle clipped in Downey?(Frank Zappa and the mothers "Filmore East")

:|\ sorry had to do it :|\

hey we used to play zombiewolf in my band decades ago :D

I always get confused on the album the cartoon says zombieWOOF.
I always thought it was The Zombiewolf.
You play the axe as good as "FZ"? :|\

Zomby Woof, that is, actually.. :P I haven't touched the instrument, especially an electric for years and I don't think my fingers remeber proper rectal movement without hard rehabilitation but talking about Zomby Woof, it's not hairly ya aint havta be Mike Kennelly and all :know: