Most fun in a long time with my clothes on

[Wolfram]

OK not the greatest of story to tell but it really was most fun I had in a long time.

Short version is I finally survived a crossing of the strait of Gilbraltar - no repeated restarts or saves, just heads up dive to about 70 meters and run at night - silent for about 12 hours. Popped up once for air.

Had several near misses from a Black Swan commanded by a telepathic Captain that I swear also used seagulls as asw spotters - btw I still stand firm on premise that the gulls are actually Allied asw drone spotters ;)

In all counted at least 3 DC runs by him and many other single runs from assorted DD and I had on hydrophone screen at one time 9 hunters & those combined with merchant traffic & my screen looked like the spokes on a bicycle....lost count of how many times torpedo boats ran right over the top of me...

But this was fun, I think a highlight was when a convoy showed up and I could not resist the Capt. Dodge (Down Periscope) move and hid underneath a tanker while we went through the narrowest parts of the strait....

Not the drama maybe of some here post but for me a great satisfaction and extremely enjoyable to finally get past that fortress...

:lurk:

[kiwi_2005]

Yep getting through the Gilbraltar, is a task well worth a medal :|\

[SmokinTep]

Well done....... :up:

[Bustoff]

I dont mean to sound arrogant or anything but Gibraltar is easy. I go in and out all the time.

All you have to do is wait for a windy day. Just dive to 165m and stay in the middle of the channel. It the chop is heavy they will never hear you. As long as you skate through the whole way at no more than 3 kts. Just stay down until the crew can no longer rebreath their own CO2 output and you are good to go.

The sub will need a good scrubbin after such a long time submurged. :arrgh!:

Kaleun Bustoff

[Wolfram]

Bustoff I guess its all a matter of perspective or relativity.

:cool:

Better still it could be chance itself - I have tried many a time before without success and I appreciate I may not be the best "Kaleun" but with realism and fatigue; using the IUb mod, there are 3 crews that wish it were just a simple matter of diving to 165m. No saving, no restarting, played my cards as dealt to me.

BTW you may note the importance of this feat in respect to Das Boat.

:lurk:

[STEED]

I dont mean to sound arrogant or anything but Gibraltar is easy. I go in and out all the time.

All you have to do is wait for a windy day. Just dive to 165m and stay in the middle of the channel. It the chop is heavy they will never hear you. As long as you skate through the whole way at no more than 3 kts. Just stay down until the crew can no longer rebreath their own CO2 output and you are good to go.

The sub will need a good scrubbin after such a long time submurged. :arrgh!:

Kaleun Bustoff



I bet not on 100% realism?

[Bustoff]

Yup. 100% realism all the way!

However I am using the defualt IUB fatigue model (that is, no fatigue) because I believe that WWII Kaleuns didn't have to worry about when each individual crew member went to bed. They set watch/shift rotations and thats it. The petty officers took care of the rest. However there has yet to be a mod to allow for that.

It is a fact that when the seas are heavy you cannot be detected running at 3kts below 150m. Now I must add that this is PRE-1941. I would never try a Gib Run after 1942!

Kaleun Bustoff

[Crop-Duster]

Play naked next time

:rotfl:

[Wolfram]

Play naked next time

:rotfl:

:-j

:lurk:

[Wolfram]

BTW I do not want this to degenerate into a flamer about realism or the game exploits.

I was simply trying to express how much fun I had and wanted to share the joy.

I regret I cannot dedicate more time to playing and regret that somehow I not measure up to certain players standards.

Yet I can still be happy. ;)

But that in itself is proof of my enjoyment; that I accept who I am and have no need to make arrogant or demeaning remarks. Whether intentional or not they have the same impact. :roll:

Indeed my statement/topic was to encourage those like me that maybe get a bit frustrated by reading page after page of reports of how inferior we must be because we cannot replicate incredible scores or duplicate feats of navigation like others.

That when we do succeed, that we had fun.

That is what the game is about to me, to some, not beating the system but overcoming and learning to manage, to survive in a simulation, not an arcade...

:lurk:

[STEED]

I would never try a Gib Run after 1942!

Kaleun Bustoff


Chicken :-j

[HEMISENT]

Wolfram, running Gibralter is quite an accomplishment. I've tried more than once and failed. Yes it's easier pre 1941 but just try it around 43-44 and see what happens
You've discovered the only method I've found to at least give you a fighting chance-hiding under a slow merchant.


Well done Captain :up:

[Wolfram]

HEMISENT thank you sir :)

All I was trying to express is/was a personal satisfaction. :cool:

I wish only the best to any and all respondents.

Having fun I guess is relative for/from each perspective.

:up:

:lurk:

[STEED]

Play naked next time

:rotfl:

With your eyes shut as well :rotfl:

Only :-j

[Wolfram]

Play naked next time

:rotfl:

With your eyes shut as well :rotfl:

Only :-j

Might be better if everyone else closes their eyes first if I play naked...

:rotfl:

:lurk:

[P_Funk]

Now I must add that this is PRE-1941. I would never try a Gib Run after 1942!

Kaleun Bustoff

Everything was a breeze pre-41. 41 was the turning point. That was when the war got alot harder. By 43/44 a U-boat couldn't surface without being molested by a bomber or a task force or something. And Gibralter... well. Lemme tell you. I think I remember a statistic that no U-boat that ever was ordered to the Mediterranean (ie. through GIbralter) ever returned. They were all either destroyed trying to get back through Gibralter or scuttled upon defeat.

What was it that that Seaman in Das Boot said about Gibralter? Tighter than a virgin's... well.

[STEED]

Play naked next time

:rotfl:

With your eyes shut as well :rotfl:

Only :-j

Might be better if everyone else closes their eyes first if I play naked...

:rotfl:

:lurk:


Quick some one pass me a blindfold :rotfl:

[Wolfram]

Play naked next time

:rotfl:

With your eyes shut as well :rotfl:

Only :-j

Might be better if everyone else closes their eyes first if I play naked...

:rotfl:

:lurk:


Quick some one pass me a blindfold :rotfl:

:P

[STEED]

Play naked next time

:rotfl:

With your eyes shut as well :rotfl:

Only :-j

Might be better if everyone else closes their eyes first if I play naked...

:rotfl:

:lurk:




Quick some one pass me a blindfold :rotfl:

:P

If I was to play in the buff your need to get drunk and put a drum over your head :-j :rotfl:

[Wolfram]

If I was to play in the buff your need to get drunk and put a drum over your head :-j :rotfl:

No doubt the entire community here would all have to inbibe massive quantities of alcohol to witness me at play - with blindfolds for all!


:lurk:

[STEED]

No doubt the entire community here would all have to inbibe massive quantities of alcohol to witness me at play - with blindfolds for all!


:lurk:


:rotfl: Nice one

[Dantenoc]

Does SHIII model the underwater currents that ocur in real life at Gibraltar?

In the real world Gibraltar the sea water is warmer in the mediterranean sea than in the Atlantic (being shalower the water heats up more easily because of the sun) and this causes an interesting current pattern where the warmer mediterranean surface water goes out to the Atlantic through the upper part of the Gibraltar straight and deep cooler atlantic water goes into the Mediterranean sea through the bottom of the Gibraltar Straight.

That way if you wanted a ride in, you could dive deep and ride the current without much need for engines. To get out you hald to be surfaced to ride the outgoing current (which was suicidal). U-boats where simply not strong enough to "swim" against this current if they wanted to go out submerged... that's why no U-boat ever left the mediterranean sea.

Anyway, is this modeled in the game? can you ride the current in?

[Wolfram]

Does SHIII model the underwater currents that ocur in real life at Gibraltar?

In the real world Gibraltar the sea water is warmer in the mediterranean sea than in the Atlantic (being shalower the water heats up more easily because of the sun) and this causes an interesting current pattern where the warmer mediterranean surface water goes out to the Atlantic through the upper part of the Gibraltar straight and deep cooler atlantic water goes into the Mediterranean sea through the bottom of the Gibraltar Straight.

That way if you wanted a ride in, you could dive deep and ride the current without much need for engines. To get out you hald to be surfaced to ride the outgoing current (which was suicidal). U-boats where simply not strong enough to "swim" against this current if they wanted to go out submerged... that's why no U-boat ever left the mediterranean sea.

Anyway, is this modeled in the game? can you ride the current in?

Now that is a great question and one that educates as well :know:

OK nautical types any idea if the physics built in?

:lurk:

[Bustoff]

Nah, I doubt it is there. Like I said earlier, set depth to as deep as possible and sneak in at out at the slowest speed. Works every time. However, you need weather and sea conditions on your side after 1941. After 1942 fuhgettabouttit!

What you say about the currents is VERY true. I have read that more than once. The British made a very smart move when they occupied Gibraltar.

They have and will always own the Med because of it.
:arrgh!: