The goal of the Islamists is world domination.

[Happy Times]

Post any FACTS you have on the subject. These have to be collected and circulated to wake people up. Food for tought. http://www.spainherald.com/2414.html

[Happy Times]

Good site. http://westernresistance.com/about.html

[Letum]

*FACT* Christians dominate more of the world than Islamists
*FACT* Outside of the religious aspect Islam does not follow common goals(such as "world domination") just as all Christians/jews/hindus do not follow common goals
*FACT* All Muslims are diffrent and individual!
*FACT* The radicaly agressive parts of ALL religions appear to aim for "world domination"

and please do not post racist URLs

*flame over*

[kiwi_2005]

Heres a Fact:
How to be a Muslim.
Strap some dynomite to your chest and run to the nearest cafe.

[kiwi_2005]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c387/mischazion/jew.gif

[Letum]

Heres a Fact:
How to be a Muslim.
Strap some dynomite to your chest and run to the nearest cafe.

WHAT THE ****?!?!
You utter bastard!
Thats like saying "how to be a jew: Stick you head in a overn"
I find your statement Tasteless and sick
Prahaps you have spent too much time in Natzi U-boots!

[Letum]

PLEASE CLOSE THIS TOPIC

[Oberon]

Wow, that has to hold the record for the quickest I've seen a thread degenerate. Still, with a title like it has, it's to be expected. :damn:

[TteFAboB]

FACT:

All your base are belong to Islam.

[kiwi_2005]

:rotfl:

Why close it, its the truth. We got muslims up our streets in auckland going nuts over the cartoons yet the truth is most kiwis dont bloody care we think its funny as.

If your muslim the i apologise but your people gotta be more laid back dude

[Letum]

The Violence is to do with the society that these people have grown up it. It has F*uck all to do with their religion, race, or colour.
It is not a case a case of 'us' Vs 'them' because there is not 'us' or 'them'.
You can not define violent factions outside of their actions
You can not call them muslims because islam' is a religion that is inderpendant of these violent factions. To do so is plain racism. Islamism would exsist without these actions and these violent actions would exsist without Islam

[Happy Times]

*FACT* Christians dominate more of the world than Islamists
*FACT* Outside of the religious aspect Islam does not follow common goals(such as "world domination") just as all Christians/jews/hindus do not follow common goals
*FACT* All Muslims are diffrent and individual!
*FACT* The radicaly agressive parts of ALL religions appear to aim for "world domination"

and please do not post racist URLs

*flame over* How is it racist, they have good arguments to their claims.

[Happy Times]

The Violence is to do with the society that these people have grown up it. It has F*uck all to do with their religion, race, or colour.
It is not a case a case of 'us' Vs 'them' because there is not 'us' or 'them'.
You can not define violent factions outside of their actions
You can not call them muslims because islam' is a religion that is inderpendant of these violent factions. To do so is plain racism. Islamism would exsist without these actions and these violent actions would exsist without Islam Yes, a society and culture that embrases Islam so they are kinda related.

[Letum]

*FACT* Christians dominate more of the world than Islamists
*FACT* Outside of the religious aspect Islam does not follow common goals(such as "world domination") just as all Christians/jews/hindus do not follow common goals
*FACT* All Muslims are diffrent and individual!
*FACT* The radicaly agressive parts of ALL religions appear to aim for "world domination"

and please do not post racist URLs

*flame over* How is it racist, they have good arguments to their claims.

Look at the title! "Western resistance"
There claiming it is a conflict against the East!
Racism happens when people stop becomeing individuals and people start seeing things as a conflict between one group and another i.e. West vs middle East

[Letum]

The Violence is to do with the society that these people have grown up it. It has F*uck all to do with their religion, race, or colour.
It is not a case a case of 'us' Vs 'them' because there is not 'us' or 'them'.
You can not define violent factions outside of their actions
You can not call them muslims because islam' is a religion that is inderpendant of these violent factions. To do so is plain racism. Islamism would exsist without these actions and these violent actions would exsist without Islam Yes, a society and culture that embrases Islam so they are kinda related.
There are bigger forces at work in middle easten society than religion.
Economics and polotics are the biggest factors in how directly politicaly/religiously active people are.
The rich and free dont fight for anything as they have everything
The poor and opressed fight because they have nothing to lose
And the biggest target for the poor is allways the rich

This happens regardless of religion or race
There are countless historical examples

[kiwi_2005]

Who is the violent one here?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c387/mischazion/behead.jpg

[Letum]

There are countless historical examples

Violent factions in the poor and opressed middle east rise against the rich 'west'
Violent factions in the poor and opressed Czarist Russia rise against the rich aristocrats
Violent factions in the poor and opressed post war germany rise against the Jews who they precive to be rich

It happens WHAT EVER THE RELIGION

[Letum]

Who is the violent one here?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c387/mischazion/behead.jpg

That man is

not his race, not his religion

[Happy Times]

*FACT* Christians dominate more of the world than Islamists
*FACT* Outside of the religious aspect Islam does not follow common goals(such as "world domination") just as all Christians/jews/hindus do not follow common goals
*FACT* All Muslims are diffrent and individual!
*FACT* The radicaly agressive parts of ALL religions appear to aim for "world domination"

and please do not post racist URLs

*flame over* How is it racist, they have good arguments to their claims.

Look at the title! "Western resistance"
There claiming it is a conflict against the East!
Racism happens when people stop becomeing individuals and people start seeing things as a conflict between one group and another i.e. West vs middle East Are you saying there isnt a constant conflict between values? :roll: You cant describe it as OUR values and THEIR values? Some times you have to take the big picture and i claim that in general, these two cultures are in conflict with each other. Ofcourse we can talk philosophy and distance ourselfs from the issue, but my bet is that there is going to be violance because of this. And its not going to be because of this thread, so chill out.

[Happy Times]

There are countless historical examples

Violent factions in the poor and opressed middle east rise against the rich 'west'
Violent factions in the poor and opressed Czarist Russia rise against the rich aristocrats
Violent factions in the poor and opressed post war germany rise against the Jews who they precive to be rich

It happens WHAT EVER THE RELIGION You just compared them to Communists and Nazis, thank you, you just prooved my point, we agree. :D

[Sea Demon]

The Violence is to do with the society that these people have grown up it. It has F*uck all to do with their religion, race, or colour.
It is not a case a case of 'us' Vs 'them' because there is not 'us' or 'them'.
You can not define violent factions outside of their actions
You can not call them muslims because islam' is a religion that is inderpendant of these violent factions. To do so is plain racism. Islamism would exsist without these actions and these violent actions would exsist without Islam

I totally agree with you about a governing factor of these people is the society they grew up in. And I also agree it's nothing to do with race, religion, or color. But you can't ignore a few things:

1. Muslims flew commercial airliners into buildings in New York City.
2. Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hung them from a bridge.
3. Muslims have fired rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel.
4. Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school at that.
5. Muslims massacred dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder.
6. Muslims murdered more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 were injured. And Spain too.
8. Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. Against other reeligions in the name of theirs.
9. Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons.
10. Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims rampage.

Sounds like they think it's "Us Vs. Them". How should we deal with it? Just askin'. You're right about some stuff here, but I hope you don't ignore that we have problems.

Sea Demon

[Sixpack]

Alywas confusing stuff: islamic individuals and islamic masses.

But a major problem always has been the FACT that culture-defining Islam does not separate church and state like we do for a pretty long time now. Allah rules the zoo in their opinion and people are simply divided in superior (priviliged) followers and non-followers.

[Konovalov]

Heres a Fact:
How to be a Muslim.
Strap some dynomite to your chest and run to the nearest cafe.

LTTE. Look it up.

[jumpy]

FACT:

All your base are belong to Islam.

LMFAO!

that's gotta be a sig if ever I saw one... hehe :rotfl:

[Torplexed]

I'm curious about the racism argument. When did Islam become a race? It's a religion.

[Letum]

*FACT* Christians dominate more of the world than Islamists
*FACT* Outside of the religious aspect Islam does not follow common goals(such as "world domination") just as all Christians/jews/hindus do not follow common goals
*FACT* All Muslims are diffrent and individual!
*FACT* The radicaly agressive parts of ALL religions appear to aim for "world domination"

and please do not post racist URLs

*flame over* How is it racist, they have good arguments to their claims.

Look at the title! "Western resistance"
There claiming it is a conflict against the East!
Racism happens when people stop becomeing individuals and people start seeing things as a conflict between one group and another i.e. West vs middle East Are you saying there isnt a constant conflict between values? :roll: You cant describe it as OUR values and THEIR values? Some times you have to take the big picture and i claim that in general, these two cultures are in conflict with each other. Ofcourse we can talk philosophy and distance ourselfs from the issue, but my bet is that there is going to be violance because of this. And its not going to be because of this thread, so chill out.


Do Christian Europeans hold a set of "values?"
Did the Natzi Christian Europeans have the same "values?"

You see? the word "Natzi" or "Islamic Terrorist" can be used to discribe a set of values, but the words "christian" or "Muslim" DO NOT REFER TO A SET OF VALUES

[Happy Times]

I ask you again, arent the two cultures in constant conflict with each other?

[Letum]

Cultures do not have inherant "values" so the question is void

[Dowly]

All religions should be banned for good. Too much blood have been shed because of them.

And what´s all this 'Jihad' thing? It means "Holy war", right? I cannot see any 'holy' in cases like beheading hostages and all that crap. :nope:

Oh, and this is just my opinion, dont get pissed about it.

[Sea Demon]

All religions should be banned for good. Too much blood have been shed because of them.

Chairman Mao wasn't exactly a religious man, yet it is estimated that he slaughtered over 50 million people. Joe Stalin was an atheist also. about 30 million.

[Happy Times]

Cultures do not have inherant "values" so the question is void OK, now im convinced you dont live in the real world. You go sell that line to the Pubs and Mosques. :doh:

[Dowly]

All religions should be banned for good. Too much blood have been shed because of them.

Chairman Mao wasn't exactly a religious man, yet it is estimated that he slaughtered over 50 million people. Joe Stalin was an atheist also. about 30 million.

Yep, I´m aware of that. They were just fricking lunatics and should´ve have been shot when they were born.

[Sea Demon]

All religions should be banned for good. Too much blood have been shed because of them.

Chairman Mao wasn't exactly a religious man, yet it is estimated that he slaughtered over 50 million people. Joe Stalin was an atheist also. about 30 million.

Yep, I´m aware of that. They were just fricking lunatics and should´ve have been shot when they were born.

:lol:

If we only had a working Time Machine, my friend. :-j

[Dowly]

:yep:

[Konovalov]

Heres a Fact:
How to be a Muslim.
Strap some dynomite to your chest and run to the nearest cafe.

LTTE. Look it up.

Did you have any luck with that kiwi_2005?

Here is another one in the Narodnaya Volya (People’sWill) from late 19th century Russia and their use of crude explosives and dynamite.

And another being the Barbar Khalsa International (BKI) of India.

Suicide bombers and suicide terrorist attacks have been and are conducted by both secular and religous groups. Such suicide attacks have been employed by a large variety of groups, including Muslim (both Shi’ite and Sunni), Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Jewish and secular organizations, especially in the Middle East but also in many other regions of the world.

[Letum]

Cultures do not have inherant "values" so the question is void OK, now im convinced you dont live in the real world. You go sell that line to the Pubs and Mosques. :doh:

I will repeat for your benafit:

Do Christian Europeans hold a set of "values?"
Did the Natzi Christian Europeans have the same "values?"

You see? the word "Natzi" or "Islamic Terrorist" can be used to discribe a set of values, but the words "christian" or "Muslim" DO NOT REFER TO A SET OF VALUES

[Oberon]

I cannot help but think that it is a case of the minority influencing the majority. Islam proclaims itself to be a peaceful religion, as does Christianity, and yet many such distasteful acts have been committed in the name of both religions.
Religion is an excuse, a ways to a means for those who have always been hateful of Western Culture (for whatever means) to commit atrocities and in the eyes of their fellow Muslims be venerated for it. Does this mean that we should ban all religions? Doing so will not stop such people, they will just search for another excuse, or just not use one at all.
After all, we who wax lyrical about freedoms have not always been so lenient, it is hard to think of a major world power today that has not indulged in a spot of genocide in its time, but does that mean that for the actions of our ancestors that we should expect the world to hold us accountable?
Unfortunately, the more publicity these people get, the longer their arm reaches, and they pass their hate onto the next generation so that the hate grows, and so our hate of them grows, until it is very much us and them.
...I cannot help but remember a time in Germany when the media portrayed a group of people as 'savages' and encouraged 'us vs them' and I can't help but remember what that lead to.

[Letum]

I cannot help but think that it is a case of the minority influencing the majority. Islam proclaims itself to be a peaceful religion, as does Christianity, and yet many such distasteful acts have been committed in the name of both religions.
Religion is an excuse, a ways to a means for those who have always been hateful of Western Culture (for whatever means) to commit atrocities and in the eyes of their fellow Muslims be venerated for it. Does this mean that we should ban all religions? Doing so will not stop such people, they will just search for another excuse, or just not use one at all.
After all, we who wax lyrical about freedoms have not always been so lenient, it is hard to think of a major world power today that has not indulged in a spot of genocide in its time, but does that mean that for the actions of our ancestors that we should expect the world to hold us accountable?
Unfortunately, the more publicity these people get, the longer their arm reaches, and they pass their hate onto the next generation so that the hate grows, and so our hate of them grows, until it is very much us and them.
...I cannot help but remember a time in Germany when the media portrayed a group of people as 'savages' and encouraged 'us vs them' and I can't help but remember what that lead to.

Damm right.
a "us" and "them" attitude can lead to terrible places
May it never happen again
:nope:

[Happy Times]

I cannot help but think that it is a case of the minority influencing the majority. Islam proclaims itself to be a peaceful religion, as does Christianity, and yet many such distasteful acts have been committed in the name of both religions.
Religion is an excuse, a ways to a means for those who have always been hateful of Western Culture (for whatever means) to commit atrocities and in the eyes of their fellow Muslims be venerated for it. Does this mean that we should ban all religions? Doing so will not stop such people, they will just search for another excuse, or just not use one at all.
After all, we who wax lyrical about freedoms have not always been so lenient, it is hard to think of a major world power today that has not indulged in a spot of genocide in its time, but does that mean that for the actions of our ancestors that we should expect the world to hold us accountable?
Unfortunately, the more publicity these people get, the longer their arm reaches, and they pass their hate onto the next generation so that the hate grows, and so our hate of them grows, until it is very much us and them.
...I cannot help but remember a time in Germany when the media portrayed a group of people as 'savages' and encouraged 'us vs them' and I can't help but remember what that lead to.

Damm right.
a "us" and "them" attitude can lead to terrible places
May it never happen again
:nope: Its most probably going to happen and theres nothing anyone can do about it.

[Dowly]

They should hang posters like this on the streets all around the world. :)

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9246/mara1ye.jpg

[kiwi_2005]

Suicide bombers and suicide terrorist attacks have been and are conducted by both secular and religous groups. Such suicide attacks have been employed by a large variety of groups, including Muslim (both Shi’ite and Sunni), Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Jewish and secular organizations, especially in the Middle East but also in many other regions of the world.

Maybe i should of said Muslim extremist. And maybe like i remeber the muslims in our country going on television to express there regrets at what happen in the 9/11 are geniune, but its hard to trust a people that do it in the name of God and seem to hate the Jews who are gods chosen?. So WTF are the muslims going on about. Hypocrites.

[Happy Times]

Dowly, how is it going in the military?

[Rotary Crewman]

Not wanting to get involved, why was the LTTE (Tamil Tigers) mentioned?

[Dowly]

Dowly, how is it going in the military?

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=47630

:nope:

[The Avon Lady]

Who is the violent one here?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c387/mischazion/behead.jpg

That man is

not his race, not his religion
No, it's definitely his religion (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002969.php).

[Konovalov]

Not wanting to get involved, why was the LTTE (Tamil Tigers) mentioned?

Because this was said:

Heres a Fact:
How to be a Muslim.
Strap some dynomite to your chest and run to the nearest cafe.

I mentioned the LTTE becase the LTTE were and still are exponents of suicide bombing and have been one of the most active and successful groups in using this terrorist strategy. In fact only a month ago today a Sri Lanken Navy ship was attacked by an LTTE suicide attack craft which killed 13 sailors. In fact this attack was not dissimalar from that of Al Qaeda operatives upon the USS Cole in Yemen years back. Hope this clarifies where I am coming from.

[Rotary Crewman]

So....you're against Kiwis point or reinforcing it?

[Happy Times]

Who is the violent one here?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c387/mischazion/behead.jpg

That man is

not his race, not his religion
No, it's definitely his religion (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002969.php). Your spreading racist links.

[The Avon Lady]

Who is the violent one here?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c387/mischazion/behead.jpg

That man is

not his race, not his religion
No, it's definitely his religion (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002969.php). Your spreading racist links.
Here we go again!

Point out the "racist" link, please.

[Happy Times]

Who is the violent one here?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c387/mischazion/behead.jpg

That man is

not his race, not his religion
No, it's definitely his religion (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002969.php). Your spreading racist links.
Here we go again!

Point out the "racist" link, please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

[Konovalov]

So....you're against Kiwis point or reinforcing it?

The LTTE are not muslims. I am hence refuting Kiwi's vague generalisation.

[Rotary Crewman]

Right, now i get it.

Are they Hindus? I should know i suppose, was there only a year and a half ago :-?

[The Avon Lady]

Who is the violent one here?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c387/mischazion/behead.jpg

That man is

not his race, not his religion
No, it's definitely his religion (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002969.php). Your spreading racist links.
Here we go again!

Point out the "racist" link, please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
Nevertheless, here's how to respond to those that shout it out:

The "racism" canard (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009834.php).

Same "racist" site. Great read, IMO. :yep:

[Happy Times]

:up:

[Konovalov]

Right, now i get it.

Are they Hindus? I should know i suppose, was there only a year and a half ago :-?

The Tamils are predominately Hindu but by no means would it be accurate to say that the LTTE are driven primarily by religion for one fact being that about 15% of them are Christian. The LTTE have made little appeal to religious motives via it's propoganda machine for the simple reason it didn't want to alienate that 15% support from within its own Tamil ranks. Instead the driving force behind the terrorist group LTTE and its nature is an ethno-nationalist one. Unfortunately the principle non-violent aspects of their religion Hindusim (those aspects being ahimsa and satyagraha), are ignored or overidden.

If you were in Sri Lanka a year and a half ago then you may have been lucky because at that time a ceasefire existed from February 2002 (armistace declared) until about mid July 2004 when a LTTE female suicide bomber blew herself up and murdered seven people. By the way the LTTE hold the award for the highest number of female suicide bomber attacks and comprise over 30% of all suicide bombings conducted by the LTTE.

[Excalibur Bane]

I wish I could add something pointful to this thread, but I can't really think of anything pointful.

I'm quite certain though, that if there wasn't as much oil as there is in the middle east that the various Western nations would have little interest in solving the Middle East's problems. I think they would be quite content to let them massacre each other. Save for the whole 911 thing anyway, the US wanted their pint of blood and they got it with the "liberation" of Afghanistan.

I still can't figure out how Osama managed to escape that one. If I was in command of that operation, I would have nuked every hole in the ground in the country until I vaporized him or he decided it might be a good idea to surrender before his little country starts to glow in the dark. Of course, that's just me. That's why I'm not in charge of anything important. ;)

The official Canadian Extremist. :rock:

[Sixpack]

Hot damn some of you guys. This place has become sooo radical.
Just when I am turning kinda moderate. You make me look like a treehugger f.c.o.l. No problem, I dig it :lol:

[JSLTIGER]

Hot damn some of you guys. This place has become sooo radical.

Actually, I think that its more reactionary than radical. Radical would be a leftist view which would probably aim more towards appeasement at this point in history, where as the extreme rightist view (reactionary) would call for the elimination of the new threat so that things could go back to the way that they were.

[Sixpack]

Semantics. Anyway, elimination got a pretty radical ring to it, huh ? :lol:

[Spoon 11th]

They should hang posters like this on the streets all around the world. :)
Those posters would be huge, because that man is huge.

[Happy Times]

Ex muslim telling the truth. http://www.apostatesofislam.com/index.htm

[Iceman]

Mod Abraham must be on walkabout... :)

[Spoon 11th]

To me, every muslim is either active or passive terrorist.

I will never "convert" to any sort of religion. So the muslims have no other choice but to slay me and then slay me some more.

The Koran says:
slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (9:5)

Those are the words that fundamental true muslim must obey. These true muslims I call active terrorists.

Well what about passive terrorists then? Passive terrorists I call cultural muslims (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Muslim) <- wikipedia link. These muslims feel indifferently about their religion at the moment (they don't pray five times a day for example) and VALUE only the non-violent stuff in Koran. But what happens when the influence of Islam increases in my country and the Mullahs start asking the followers which one is bigger authority the Koran or the nations secular laws? Every muslim I have ever hear about has said that Koran comes always first. And from of the pressure of the community those passive terrorists will then turn into active ones because they have no other choice, otherwise they will be killed too.

[The Avon Lady]

Geez they dont know how to accept a little humor.
"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious." - Ayatolah Khomeini

[Excalibur Bane]

Geez they dont know how to accept a little humor.
"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious." - Ayatolah Khomeini

Ouch. No wonder their cranky. If I took my life that seriously, I'd turn into a suicide bomber myself. Well, I'd probably be a nuclear bomber actually. A conventional explosive is too tame for me. If I'm going, I ain't taken 20 people with me, I'm taken 200,000 :yep:

[AG124]

This may be a little off topic, but Avon Lady, how do you feel about all of this? You are right in the middle of this mess, and your home country is obviously one of the (if not THE) main target for a jihad or other attacks. It seems as if you have more to worry about than some other members of this board such as myself - I hope this all turns out alright.

[The Avon Lady]

This may be a little off topic, but Avon Lady, how do you feel about all of this? You are right in the middle of this mess, and your home country is obviously one of the (if not THE) main target for a jihad or other attacks. It seems as if you have more to worry about than some other members of this board such as myself - I hope this all turns out alright.
We are the target of the lesser Jihad. The rest of you are the target of the greater Jihad.

We are like the canary in the coal mine. The air is not what it used to be. Take a hint! :yep:

"Behold, the guardian of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps." - Psalms 121:4

[AG124]

We are the target of the lesser Jihad. The rest of you are the target of the greater Jihad.

We are like the canary in the coal mine. The air is not what it used to be. Take a hint! :yep:

I am taking the hint, don't worry. I am just worried that most others in the West are not, and that the ones that are reacting are concerned with race instead of a rational reaction. I have already posted my thoughts in the cartoons and hysteria thread. :yep:

Yes, Western nations are those which should worry most right now, even if we are not in the immediate geographic location of the violence. Although there are increasing protests in North America to limit or end freedom of speech concerning religion (i.e. Islam).

:hmm: :o

Are there any protests in Israel? I have heard that there haven't been many yet, and that everything is under control there.

[STEED]

:hulk: A time bomb ticking

[Abraham]

I'm really sorry that I came home so late and didn't lock this thread after posting 4. But then, even after 72 postings in one day, it is never too late to correct one's own mistake.

CLANG!

Brief explanation:
Religions are a sensitive subject to discuss and therefor deserve a minimum of respect. Criticism of religious doctrines is allowed, criticism on the behaviour of religious groups or individuals is allowed but slanderous generalisations (of any religion) are not allowed.
Furthermore we should realise that there are Christian, Jewish and Muslim (in alfabetical order) forum members, our subsim mates, who all should feel welcome to this forum. Some - especially earlier - postings in this thread were way out of line...
There is noting against a tough debate, and in a debate feelings can get hurt, but there are levels of decency that we have to maintain. If you can't distinguish that borderline, you better stay out of the debate.

Litterature:
http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/faq.php#0

Abraham
(with moderator cap on)