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canimo
02-04-06, 01:27 PM
How long does it take, after you report a contact for the german air force to strike ?? How many game minutes should I wait ?

What targets do they go for ?? Destroyers ? Or only big merchants ??
Do they have to take off, or are there friendly planes flying around modelled in the game ??


I´m talking about 1941-42, in Quadrant BF13 / BF 15 (wich is around 250Km NW from Brest) !!

I reported several contacts, usually destroyers, but they just go by before any german plane arrives !! :damn:


:up:

sik1977
02-04-06, 02:26 PM
How long does it take, after you report a contact for the german air force to strike ?? How many game minutes should I wait ?

What targets do they go for ?? Destroyers ? Or only big merchants ??
Do they have to take off, or are there friendly planes flying around modelled in the game ??


I´m talking about 1941-42, in Quadrant BF13 / BF 15 (wich is around 250Km NW from Brest) !!

I reported several contacts, usually destroyers, but they just go by before any german plane arrives !! :damn:


:up:

I have seen German planes attack lone ships without any contact report sent by me. Its been a rare occurence, but happens once in a while. However, the odd thing is, I have never witnessed an Air strike after reporting a convoy or task force. But I have not really stuck around long enough to see if that Air-strike comes through after i have reported that very convoy etc.

HanSolo78
02-05-06, 07:38 AM
what about this?

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9822/ju88squad37cj.th.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ju88squad37cj.jpg)http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2735/ju88squad42ru.th.jpg (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ju88squad42ru.jpg)http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9624/ju88squad50qb.th.jpg (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ju88squad50qb.jpg)

In almost every mission i played with my current version of U-Boat War Ace Campaign german squads attack norwegian ships at the capturing of norway!

tennozan
02-05-06, 09:14 AM
Wasn't there some discussion recently of the need to create one or two more Luftwaffe airbases to more actively model the historical reality? Although the naval arm attachment was often (according to the books I've read) pretty small. Still there were some significant actions earlier in the war prior to the skies being controlled by the Allies.

Redbear
02-05-06, 09:31 AM
Personally, I have never seen a Luftwaffe attack. I have seen in other discussions that there is a one-in-seven chance of Luftwaffe attack if a contact report is sent in and it is within range of such an attack. Can't confirm or deny that myself.

jherdt
02-05-06, 10:37 AM
I'd love to know the answer to that question as well. I've never seen any German planes. It would be nice to have some aircover once in a while....lol

r/Jim

HanSolo78
02-05-06, 01:23 PM
If you don´t use any mod the possibility to face german air attacks is very few.

Hartmann
02-05-06, 01:47 PM
I think that stock game don´t has enough Luftwaffe planes in the game.

the atlantic war could be different if germany don´t loose the air control of the atlantic. :hmm:

canimo
02-05-06, 06:23 PM
:up:

Ok i got it :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :yep:

i installed U-Boat War Ace Standalone and the fix.

At BF23 i spotted a solo C2, reported it and went to periscope depth. . .

While i was preparing a stern torpedo launch, the event camera poped up, at first i thought i was being bombed.

Then the C2 was on fire. Two huge condor planes bombed it, but left without sinking her.

Right after that 3 Stukas Dive Bombers came by, but im not sure if the Stukas bombed her.

The Healthy C2 also survived a 3meters impact torpedo, and some 20-30 105mm deck gun shells before sinking !! :o :o :o

It took 35 minutes of game time (the game clock, not here cause i use a LOT time compression) for the air support to arrive !! :up: :up: :up:

Salvadoreno
02-06-06, 01:19 AM
what the f. I got Uboat War ace, Rub 1.45 and Habor ZTraffic and IVE YET to see any friendlies supporting me!!! During the invasion of Norway simulated in Uboat War ace i made it to one of the ports (past trodhiem) and was only able to catch the after effects of the battle. I saw a buncha destroyed boats idle and a couple of DDs (british) and then only like 3 m away i saw the german convoy all damaged or destroyed with only 2 DDs. They were just sitting there. I just left because i didnt feel tough sinking the rest of the damaged idle convoy.

HanSolo78
02-06-06, 06:36 AM
what the f. I got Uboat War ace, Rub 1.45 and Habor ZTraffic and IVE YET to see any friendlies supporting me!!!
maybe youz mixed to much of those mods.. because u-boat war ace and harbor traffic don´t work together!
also the next version of u-bat war ace will contain more british landings in norway, 3 d modells of cities where landings are etc.
i also added some german air bases to get a better immersion feeling.

Landing at Harstad and Molde:

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2276/britishlandingharstad5zj.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britishlandingharstad5zj.jpg)http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3483/britishlandingmolde0qq.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=britishlandingmolde0qq.jpg)

Preparation for landing - Caen:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/518/caen0cl.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=caen0cl.jpg)

bookworm_020
02-06-06, 06:02 PM
Can someone make a stand alone mod to just increase the airbases? It wold mean less conflict with other mods. :) :)

Salvadoreno
02-06-06, 06:11 PM
Can someone make a stand alone mod to just increase the airbases? It wold mean less conflict with other mods. :) :)

i agree. I cant understand why modders havent modded additional luftwaffe airbases. At least model the Gruppe 40 that was under Donitz control in the late 1940s-1941. They attacked convoys and inflicted some significant damage in 1941. There was even a uboat-luftwaffe coordinated attack on convoys, i really think this needs to be modded!!! Since they dont ahve the hipper, Admiral Shceenr, Geinaisaun (sp) AND THE OTHER running around the ocean. Must be some kind of hardcoded cfg or lnd since nobody has modded it.

Razman23
02-06-06, 06:20 PM
4Q 1940 - The German air force were attacking coastal shipping quit reguarly. I dont know why SH3 doesnt show this.

I believe they called it the beginning of the Battle of Britain back then. :up:

Salvadoreno
02-06-06, 06:50 PM
ya but that was stopped rather quickly when the British stop sending merchants thru the channel, then the second phase of the battle of britian occured, attacking airfields and radar sites.

Tikigod
02-06-06, 09:52 PM
dumb question but, where do you get U-Boat Ace?

nm found it

http://usx218.fysik.uu.se/users/Sergei/files/UBoatWarAce_Wolfpack.7z

P_Funk
02-06-06, 11:53 PM
the atlantic war could be different if germany don´t loose the air control of the atlantic. :hmm:

You can blame Goering for alot of the Third Reich's failure, especially in the Atlantic. Hitler's main men were constantly trying to curry favour with him so Goering basically decided he wanted to defeat Britain all by himself for his Fuhrer and so he saw Doenitz and his U-boats as opponents trying to grab the glory. For the lack of air support the U-boats didn't fare as well as they ought to have.

HanSolo78
02-07-06, 03:51 AM
[quote="Tikigod"]dumb question but, where do you get U-Boat Ace?

nm found it

in ....

Yeah.. that´s the original mod.
There´s a much newer version which I reworked.
You can find it in the mod section of subsim.com!

sergbuto
02-07-06, 04:57 AM
dumb question but, where do you get U-Boat Ace?

nm found it

Tikigod,

I would appreciate it if you don't give the direct, full path to the server. The forum options allow to offer the same path or link hidden under the text reference, such as for example "here" or "link" so that the path itself will not appear in any web search. Or you can simply refer to my SH3 page.

Hansolo78,

Can you please edit out the path in the quote included in your post-reply as well?