Cool real world video of nuke sub!

[jasondef]

I found this video clip on one of my local news channel's websites. I thought it was kinda cool.

http://www.king5.com/sharedcontent/VideoPlayer/videoPlayer.php?vidId=46655&catId=81

Oh yeah, this is in Seattle, and by the way: GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!

[jasondef]

Be patient loading the link, it might take a few moments to load, and it comes after the Olympics advertisement, so unfortunately you have to sit through that, but its only a few seconds!

[Bill Nichols]

What sub is that? It has a rear superstructure casing similar to an Ohio's, but gets wider just after the sail and then narrows-up again. Doesn't look like a standard, 24-tube boomer :hmm:

[SmokinTep]

Converted SSBN to a SSGN...........Can now carry 154 tomahawks and a bunch of Seals and their equipment.

[Bill Nichols]

Confirmed. The video is of USS Ohio (SSGN 726)

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_060129-N-1464F-003.jpg

Puget Sound, Wash. (Jan. 29, 2006) – The guided missile submarine USS Ohio (SSGN 726) prepares to stop for a personnel transfer in Puget Sound, Washington. Media were transported to Ohio to see the new capabilities that the submarine now brings to the joint warfighter. Ohio is the first ballistic missile submarine to complete conversion to the new class of guided missile submarines (SSGN). Three other submarines are undergoing the SSGN conversion process including USS Michigan (SSGN 727), Florida (SSGN 727) and Georgia (SSGN 729).

:arrgh!:

[Konovalov]

:up: Great vid. I would love to see some close in pics of the topside of the new SSGN to compare it with a standard Ohio class.

[SmokinTep]

Nothing has basically changed topside............inside lot of changes.

[Bill Nichols]

Nothing has basically changed topside............inside lot of changes.

Notice in the pic below how the topside superstructure, immediately aft of the sail, has a sharper curve than the rest of the superstructure. That's different from 'stock' Ohio-class SSBNs.

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/051219-N-0000C-002.jpg

[TLAM Strike]

Intresting example of how form follows function there. Look at this Yankee converted to be a SSGN:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/russian-navy01/667m_420_2004_08_Kurganov.jpg
See how the missile compartment gets the same modification but only on a larger scale!?! :hmm:

[Bort]

The widened section must be to make carrying two DDS's or ASDS's possibe, they will mate with the two forward most missile tubes, which have been converted into huge SEAL lockout chambers.

[sonar732]

Great video and pics!

[jasondef]

I'm no sub expert, somebody explain please the acronyms y'all are using here. We have: SSBN, SSGN, DDS's and ASDS's. I can sort of guess, but I like to be accurate. I'm too lazy to look it up online. And does this conversion mean that the Ohio and the others to follow will no longer carry nukes, just tomahawks/guided missiles only? There is sub base Bangor near me, I drive by it sometimes when I visit my parents, I'm going to have to see aobut getting on a tour of one of these awesomely cool machines sometime soon, if they do that sort of thing.

[jasondef]

All right, I'm a little confused. I thought I had this forum figured out and why postings get placed where they do, but why hasn't my past to replies here moved this post back up to the top of the of page 1? I just had a couple of questions and am worried about this thread getting buried to where nobody will see it and my questions will remain unanswered. This seems to have something to do with when the threads get "Moved"? :damn: :doh: :88)

[jasondef]

After I posted these last couple of replies, and then I click "back to forum", I'm magically transported to some other forum's page 1, not where I thought I'd be. This now REALLY confuses me. Man, if anyone out there has followed some of my other postings the last couple of weeks since I first got on this site, they probably think I'm retarded or smokin' crack! :|\ :()1: Please forgive my stupidity on these matters and my computer challengedness, and instead of laughing at me please help my understanding!!!!!!!! :help:

[jasondef]

Great shipyard pics by the way! :lurk:

[Bill Nichols]

I'm no sub expert, somebody explain please the acronyms y'all are using here. We have: SSBN, SSGN, DDS's and ASDS's. I can sort of guess, but I like to be accurate. I'm too lazy to look it up online. And does this conversion mean that the Ohio and the others to follow will no longer carry nukes, just tomahawks/guided missiles only? There is sub base Bangor near me, I drive by it sometimes when I visit my parents, I'm going to have to see aobut getting on a tour of one of these awesomely cool machines sometime soon, if they do that sort of thing.

SSBN = Ballistic missile submarine (nuclear-powered)
SSGN = Guided missile submarine (nuclear-powered)
ASDS = Advanced SEAL (or swimmer) Delivery System

Four of the Ohio-class SSBNs are being converted to SSGNs (the Trident missile tubes being re-worked to carry Tomahawk cruise missiles). Those boats are also being re-fitted to carry SEAL teams (two of the missile tubes to become "lockout" chambers for SEAL egress/ingress.

[jasondef]

Thanks for the explanations. Also, I think I heard once that the class of the sub is named after the actual name of the the first sub of that class, i.e. the USS Ohio is the first sub of its class and all the subs built after that of that same class are said to be "Ohio" class subs. Is this true? And is this how we name the Russian subs as well?

[sonar732]

Depends on how you look at it. Some of us call them "Tridents" as this is the type of ballistic missle they are carrying. Shoot, some of the old timers might still call them "boomers" as this is the nickname for the earlier ballistic missile submarines. But, for the most part, they are the name ship of the class...Ohio's, just as the Los Angeles class fast attacks are so called.

As for the Russian boats...they are in a whole different world. :rotfl:
The NATO designation for Russian submarines and surface ships are different then what they have designated.

[Bill Nichols]

Thanks for the explanations. Also, I think I heard once that the class of the sub is named after the actual name of the the first sub of that class, i.e. the USS Ohio is the first sub of its class and all the subs built after that of that same class are said to be "Ohio" class subs. Is this true? And is this how we name the Russian subs as well?

True for US warships in general.

For Russian ships, there are a couple of different ways classes are described:

Many Russian/Soviet warship classes are known by their NATO code names (examples: Victor-class SSN, Oscar-class SSGN, Kara-class cruiser, etc.)
Some are known by their 'first ship in class' name (Udaloy, Sovremennyy)
The Russian military usually uses 'Project' numbers to describe classes. (Example: the Kilo-class diesel sub (NATO designation) is known as the Type 636 to Russians)

Sometimes, there is confusion! Prime example: the Russian SSBN known as 'Typhoon' in the West is called 'Akula' (Type 941) by Russians. This is a different sub from the Akula-class SSN (NATO designation) aka Bars or Type 971 (Russian designation)Type. :doh:

[Kapitan]

also you got:

PLA
PLARB
PLRB
PLARK
PLRK
PL / PLD
PL/AS

and TLAM niceked the picture i wanted to post :shifty:

the big bulges on that yankee are realy just to accomadate the crews bicycles :up:

[Bill Nichols]

the big bulges on that yankee are realy just to accomadate the crews bicycles :up:

They're not for the hot tub? :-j

[Kapitan]

:up: shhhh thats at the back why the sub sit stern heavy but dont tell the admirals :up:

[Fish]

Probable one of he Zwaardvis diesel submarines bought to Taiwan by the Dutch.

http://lubbers-line.blogspot.com/2006/01/taiwanese-submarine-video.html

[TLAM Strike]

Many Russian/Soviet warship classes are known by their NATO code names (examples: Victor-class SSN, Oscar-class SSGN, Kara-class cruiser, etc.) Same goes for the submarines of the PRC.

Han, Xia, Ming, Song, and Yuan are all codenames IIRC.

Also lots of Russian support ships get their NATO class names after the shipyard they were built at. For example the Polnocny LSM are built in Polnocny Shipyard Cdansk.

[Kapitan]

but they made a right mess of the system and its fairly hard to follow for new people on the block

[Bort]

They're not for the hot tub?:-j
Probably not, but I remember seeing a TV show where they said the Typhoon class boats have pools... and no, I'm not kidding. I believe it was the Discovery series Submarines: Sharks of Steel.

[sonar732]

IIRC, someone posted a sonar recording of a Typhoon with men jumping in the pool.

[Kapitan]

mission invisible a documentary i have on disk shows a man jumping into a pool.

[jasondef]

TLAM Strike, kind of off the subject here, but seeing your last post suddenly made me think of a game that I haven't thought about in a looooong time, EV:NOVA!! The EV series is some of my favorite gaming experiences, and my first modding experiences, I played all three EV versions as they went along, but its been at least a few years since I last played NOVA. Is it still going strong, and what's Firerfly all about? Anybody whispering about a next installment of EV? I still have my old Ambrosia T-Shirt, with their cool logo! :rock:

[TLAM Strike]

I haven’t heard anything about the next EV, some have said NOVA maybe the last. But a patch for EVN was just release, but I heard some things got messed up so I didn’t install it.

Firefly is a Sci Fi series by Joss Whedon about a crew of smugglers and mercenaries on the run from the law (well its a lot more than that, a description would be about 6 paragraphs long). The show was canceled (By of course FoX) but fan support got a DVD set released (it sold very very well) and Universal bought the rights to make a film (a trilogy in fact), which was released last September and came out on DVD a month ago. The EV: Firefly mod basically follows the life of the Captain Mal Reynolds from the end of the civil war (in which he was a sergeant on the losing side) to the start of the series (and maybe beyond it we haven’t decided that yet.)


http://imdb.com/title/tt0303461/ -Firefly
http://imdb.com/title/tt0379786/ -Serenity
www.fireflyfans.net

[jasondef]

I like good sci-fi, I'll have to check it out. Thaks for the tip