Conservatives Win Canadian Election

[AG124]

It is now almost definate that the Conservative Party of Canada will replace the Liberal Party of Canada and will form a minority government. The NDP (left-wing) have also gained so far, and the separatist Bloq Quebecois have lost four seats. One independent is leading at the time of this post, and the Green Party are currently failing miserably.

All polls are closed in Canada, so it is now alright to report this. :yep: The results are not final and may change though - it is most likely that the Conservatives will win more seats in the western provinces.

CBC's website is down right now, so I can't check for more updates. :damn:

EDIT: Never mind, it's back up now. :)

http://www.cbc.ca/

[AG124]

BTW - Some of the results on CBC's website are screwed up - my parents are watching the election at home (I am in university) and the results on TV are very different. The website has been wrong most of the night for some reason (and hasn't been working at all most of the time). :-?

EDIT: If you view the right section, you can see the right results. Not that anyone's really interested anyway. :roll: This is Canada I'm talking about after all.

[CCIP]

I'm watching, I'm watching. It's turning out as expected, I think. My main relief is that the Bloc seems to have slipped a bit here. This perspective might be understandable, considering I live in Quebec but make my living and study in Ontario (and spend most of my time there, at that)...

I'll let people guess who I voted for. :hmm:

[AG124]

Yes, I too am glad to see the Bloc drop (not that I am anti-Quebec or anything - I would just like to see the province remain in Canada). I wasn't expecting that though, although the Tories, Grits, and NDP and performed exactly as I expected.

I am also glad to see the Green Party fail - all of their promises and platforms appeared unrealistic to me. Taxing take-out food, taxing already-through-the-roof gasoline, taxing natural resource development - who did they expect to vote for them anyway? :roll:

[Torpedo Fodder]

A few ridings aren't finished counting yet, but this looks like the final seatcount:

124 Conservative
103 Liberal
51 Bloc
29 NDP
1 Independant

[tycho102]

My God, I don't know what they'll do. When our liberals get displaced, they always threaten to run to Canada. Where the heck is Canada's libs going to go?

Russia?
Iceland?
New York? :rotfl:

[AG124]

A few ridings aren't finished counting yet, but this looks like the final seatcount:

124 Conservative
103 Liberal
51 Bloc
29 NDP
1 Independant

The final results have been decided now, and that is the final way the seat count turned out - no further changes. I was hoping the Bloc would have lost at least one of those two undecided ridings in which they were leading though. :shifty:

[SUBMAN1]

Good to hear that Canada is coming to its senses! :)

-S

[U-552Erich-Topp]

:) Let's hope they don't drag us into the war on terrorism.

[SUBMAN1]

:) Let's hope they don't drag us into the war on terrorism.

It would be nice to have some Canadian help. Trust me, Canadian's are still considered infidels in their eyes and your day is coming.

-S

[Pigfish]

:) Let's hope they don't drag us into the war on terrorism.

It would be nice to have some Canadian help. Trust me, Canadian's are still considered infidels in their eyes and your day is coming.-S

We are involved and helping, just not in Iraq. A link from a quick search:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/AE6B8C95-3E7E-47BC-AE45-1BC339601C53.htm

[SUBMAN1]

:) Let's hope they don't drag us into the war on terrorism.

It would be nice to have some Canadian help. Trust me, Canadian's are still considered infidels in their eyes and your day is coming.-S

We are involved and helping, just not in Iraq. A link from a quick search:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/AE6B8C95-3E7E-47BC-AE45-1BC339601C53.htm

Cool. I didn't know that.

[CCIP]

My God, I don't know what they'll do. When our liberals get displaced, they always threaten to run to Canada. Where the heck is Canada's libs going to go?


Don't confuse Canada's Liberals with American liberals :hmm:

Canada's Liberal party is, in general terms, just a millimeter right of centre. The only substantial "left" in Canada is the NDP (New Democrats), which are just a millimeter left of centre.

Conservatives, relatively speaking, are the "right" - although ironically, both the major parties (Liberal/Conservative) in Canada are way the heck left on the spectrum of even the Democrats in the US. Or rather, American politics are way the heck to the right of Canada and Europe. Which is why I generally can't stand them :P

Even if I don't like any of the major parties here, I'm glad that things are keeping relatively centred here. And I'm only too glad it's a Conservative minority, which will likely let them work while severely dampening any further-right-wing tendencies.

[fargel]

I'm just glad that the Conservatives won, but saddened that they only enough votes to make a minority government.

I was watching CBC for 4 hours last night watching the latest results swing either side of the chart, and waiting in anticipation for the Conservative victory.

I am also glad that the Green Party didn't even get one single MP elected. I believe it’s around what, 5% of the popular vote to receive national funding? Because they got 4.6% :rotfl: (EDIT: I'm not to sure about this. Any Canadian would like to elaborate on national funding?)

But one thing I am annoyed is that Belinda Stronach got re-elected to the house. Like seriously, IMO, she changed from Conservative to Liberal just to have more power. At least she's now back where she was in the first place, as part of the opposition. It will be a laugh to see her joining the Conservatives again :P .

Finally for 13 years, the Liberals are out and the Conservatives back in. I just hope they can start the two-tier system working as soon as possible. My poor Grandma had to wait 2 years in line and then when she finally got the operation done, they sent her home and didn't care about her :nope: . The hospitals here in Canada are crap. Sure we probably have good doctors, but when the operations are done, they have to get rid of the patents to make room for new ones. This is wrong. Getting private clinics will certainly reduce the waiting time to get an operation and free up beds.

Well, I just hope that the Conservatives won't touch the Gay Marriage Act right away, because of the total outcry that would happen, which could bring another Notwithstanding clause to bring down the Government again. I am still afraid that when the next election comes around next time, the Liberal party will probably win. As I heard from CBC and my Socials teacher, the people only voted in the Conservatives because they were angry with the Liberals. I just hope the Conservatives will win a majority government next election.

[SUBMAN1]

I'm just glad that the Conservatives won, but saddened that they only enough votes to make a minority government.

I was watching CBC for 4 hours last night watching the latest results swing either side of the chart, and waiting in anticipation for the Conservative victory.

I am also glad that the Green Party didn't even get one single MP elected. I believe it’s around what, 5% of the popular vote to receive national funding? Because they got 4.6% :rotfl: (EDIT: I'm not to sure about this. Any Canadian would like to elborate on national funding?)

But one thing I am annoyed is that Belinda Stronach got re-elected to the house. Like seriously, IMO, she changed from Conservative to Liberal just to have more power. At least she's now back where she was in the first place, as part of the opposition. It will be a laugh to see her joining the Conservatives again :P .

Finally for 13 years, the Liberals are out and the Conservatives back in. I just hope they can start the two-tier system working as soon as possible. My poor Grandma had to wait 2 years in line and then when she finally got the operation done, they sent her home and didn't care about her :nope: . The hospitals here in Canada are crap. Sure we probably have good doctors, but when the operations are done, they have to get rid of the patents to make room for new ones. This is wrong. Getting private clients will certainly reduce the waiting time to get an operation and free up beds.

Well, I just hope that the Conservatives won't touch the Gay Marriage Act right away, because of the total outcry that would happen, which could bring another Notwithstanding clause to bring down the Government again. I am still afraid that when the next election comes around next time, the Liberal party will probably win. As I heard from CBC and my Socials teacher, the people only voted in the Conservatives because they were angry with the Liberals. I just hope the Conservatives will win a majority government next election.

I know a bit about the Canadian health care system and I agree, it is crap. THey kick you out ASAP, even if its an unhealthy thing too.

The flip side is huge Health Care insurance like we have here in the states that the poor cannot afford, and even employers are shifting that cost on over to employees now. One of my co-workers pays over $600 a month for himself and his wife and child, and this is after the employers contribution.

I am not sure what system is better, but both stink. I guess the only real thing is that if I get hurt, I know I will have better care, but don't think I am 'not' paying out of pocket for it, because it costs us dearly.

-S

[AG124]

I've heard much discussion about a two-tiered health system and I do believe that it would be to Canada's advantage as the current system is not working very well (to put it mildly). However, I do have concerns that the entire health care system could become privatized and that would be even worse. we need a balance, but I think it can be done.

About same-sex marriage and abortion - those would be the most contentious points for the new Conservative government (I do NOT want to turn this into a religious debate though as that will lead nowhere). Although Stephen Harper has said he will not touch abortion and will hold only a free vote on the marriage definition I have the feeling he is willing to take further steps (IE, the notwithstanding clause). He probably doesn't have the support from other parties which he would need and it could create problems. He will probably wait a while before making a move though.

At least we will have some military improvements and stricter laws (especially related to gun crimes) - both of which I would welcome. Although Canada isn't and never will be renowned for its military power we shouldn't let our military fall into complete disrepair. I just hope the new supply ships, transport aircraft, and icebreakers the Conservatives will purchase will not turn out to be complete junk like those Victorias. (BTW - does anyone know if the plans to buy two assault carriers are still one the table?)

And I am really happy about the lack of Green Party and Bloc seats - neither of these parties (or any of the smaller fringe parties of which there are many) have any realistic or reasonable ideas for the country.

I did vote Liberal though - Stephen Harper has too much disdain for Atlantic Canadians (of which I am one) for my taste. I just do not like him at all, and doubt he will turn out to be a popular Prime Minister. I do not want to start a flame war though, although it is the Canadian election so no one will care enough anyway. :rotfl:

[Onkel Neal]

My God, I don't know what they'll do. When our liberals get displaced, they always threaten to run to Canada. Where the heck is Canada's libs going to go?


Don't confuse Canada's Liberals with American liberals :hmm:

Canada's Liberal party is, in general terms, just a millimeter right of centre. The only substantial "left" in Canada is the NDP (New Democrats), which are just a millimeter left of centre.
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Yeah but your center is a mile to our left :P

[fargel]

However, I do have concerns that the entire health care system could become privatized and that would be even worse. we need a balance, but I think it can be done.

The way I see it is that the people are to afraid and concerned when they hear private health care up here in Canada. Sure we can see the amount of money the Americans are spending when they have to go to the hospital, but that scenario will never happen in Canada.

One of Canada's firmest beliefs is public health care. I am arm over leg with this idea, who isn't? The problem with public health care is you have to pump so much taxpayer's money into it to get it running. Then problems like over crowding come in and where people waiting months, or even years, to get the surgeries they desperately need but then they are rushed out to open up space.

I believe in a two-tier system, where there is public health care working with private health care. Oh, but the arguments of private health care clients get better treatment then public clients or morale issues concerning people paying for treatment. I say "bah" to those arguments. It works, look at Europe.

But the damnist thing I've heard on CBC, is that Paul Martin and Jack Layton, the defenders of public health care, used private clinics. Oh Canada, why must you take them seriously?

I want to see that gun registry finally removed. That was one of the worst ideas made. It sounds promising, don't get me wrong, but it only hurts the people who obey the law! The criminals will get their guns, no matter what new law comes into play. It has major cost over runs that in turn hurt all taxpayers in Canada (Writing this down made me think of Starforce :-j... damnit, not the time or place... back to topic :P ).

I am happy that the Conservatives won. Even though I am not allowed to vote, because of age and no Canadian citizenship, doesn't mean I can't complain. Hell, I'll be paying taxes in two years and I want to see my money going into something that works, not to fraudulent politicians or companies that don't deserve it.

Prime Minister Steven Harper, do us proud and jail the scandalise dogs in government, clean up crime, remove the gun registry, and fix the damn public health care!