Captain Jean-Luc Picard :D

[Polak]

That man was the best startrek captain after captain Kirk.
Very funny music video starring captain Picard.
Laughed my ass of when I saw this :D :yep:

Go Picard (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4327822273611416271&q=picard)

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That man was the best startrek captain after captain Kirk.] Thems fighting words... :stare:

[Oberon]

That man was the best startrek captain after captain Kirk.] Thems fighting words... :stare:

http://www.durfee.net/startrek/images/Sisko.jpg

THEN Picard :up:

Great video, best one I've seen done of the Picard Mix :up:

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That man was the best startrek captain after captain Kirk.] Thems fighting words... :stare:

http://www.durfee.net/startrek/images/Sisko.jpg

THEN Picard :up: Right On! :up:

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Now best engineer since Scotty:
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/6461/obrien1bl.jpg

[Polak]

Infidels :D
This is the great leader! :yep:
http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_tv/startrek_038.gif

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Infidels :D
This is the great leader! :yep:
http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_tv/startrek_038.gif You know in hindsight he was just a skirt chasing sexist pig that got his shirt ripped a lot. Oh and he got fat too. But considering how bad the rest of the Federation seemed back then (Every Federation official was either stupid or insane) I guess Kirk was ok. :D

[Oberon]

Now best engineer since Scotty:
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/6461/obrien1bl.jpg

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[Mustang]

Infidels :D
This is the great leader! :yep:
http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_tv/startrek_038.gif You know in hindsight he was just a skirt chasing sexist pig that got his shirt ripped a lot. Oh and he got fat too.

Yes, a TITAN among MEN!

Any who, here goes the one and only Mustang Download!
*clears his throat*

James Tiberious Kirk,
although thought to have been womanizing and impulsive. James Kirk had to be the closest character in all the series to actually displaying Humanity. (I'm not talking about shatner, as most his cast would say he was quite difficult to work with.) But Jim kirk set the standard for Star Trek and the Federation Directives, though he occasionally bent them at times. His actions led to a greater good, the ends do not always justify the means. However his means usually came to a positive outcome. While many think he was womanizer, the truth is he was appreciator of women. Jim kirk did something no other Captain in Starfleet had. He looked for the similarities in all species, he looked for humanity in all things and tried to make an amicable relationship based on those similarities. Impulsive yes, he always leaped before he looked.

Jean-luc Picard,
Undoubtedly the most Advanced of the Starfleet Officers, Picard set a new kind of standard and was said to be, as quoted from Gene Roddenberry, "His Ideal Leader in the Star trek Universe." Picard was everything one could want in a Starfleet Captain his character was the protector of the federation, the first line of defense always(except First contact where his experience with the Borg made Starfleet edgy about sending him in.) his past was dark and shrouded in mystery he looked like a man, a real man. Not a self-confidant hot-shot but a man with regrets but who strives through life as we all do in hope that the world gets better everyday and one day he would be forgiven for his sins. He was logical, whereas kirk was not and always looked before he leaped. Picard held principals before all else whereas kirk held his personal Morales above all else.

Benjamin Lafayette Sisko,
he was an experiment, an attempt to merge the qualities and flaws of both James t Kirk and Jean-Luc Picard. He was impulsive.(Deny This? He decked Q on DS9! Impulsive Yes.) He did not have much in his past to regret. Instead of creating a character with a Dark past Pillar decided to give a everyday starfleet officer boyscout, a catalyst in which would elude him to the Darkside so to say, Sisko took command on DS9 after losing his wife(Jeniffer) in the Borg attack at wolf 359. Before that he was the ideal student and helped his father run a restaurant and just another guy. But when he lost Jeniffer, he swore he would never again take his son Jake into some dangerous situation aboard a starship like he did with his wife. So he accepted Command of the newly acquired DS9 which was a mining facility originally designed and run by the Cardassians and powered by a race known as the Bajoren who were slaves in the Cardassian union. Sisko would often be forced out of linear time and into some different dimension in which aliens would force him to make a logical decision. Instead of his decisions being thought of. The reason for this is the show, wanted to display the dark side of the Star trek Universe. Where there is no clear cut black and white, no truly good nor evil decision just greys and the lesser of two evils. Instead of a Dark past we were shown as he travelled through the dark side and at times became dangerously close to being enveloped by it. I think a man as aggressive as he that claimed to see aliens that no one else had ever seen before would have been at the least removed from Command until studied by SFC Analysts.

Kathryn Janeway,
the less I say about her the better...



































Alright,
alright, I'm not that chauvinist.
Janeway was Paramount attempt to take Starfleet in a completely new direction. A more feminine pro masculine direction in which rather then dealing with the dark side or weighing the good and evil like the proceeding Captains. Her actions were mostly based on emotion and compassion. She would many times try to follow protocol and attempt to be pro-masculine. Though she would often follow her own Morales before anyone elses, she would take advice from her crew but her decisions seemed to always be based on her cureent emotional state. She is the product of mixing all three Captains. In short a woman embodies many kinds of personalities, more so then men because our nature and our environment demand us to be of a certain kind of man whereas, women are permitted the luxury of having many types of personality. Often why they confuse and out think the youngest of the male gender. Now before anyone think I struck a blow for the feminist movement, let me make it perfectly clear. In my opinion the main difference between men and women is that women feel more emotions then men at a time. For instance when a woman leaves a man she thought she loved she will cry for days, weeks even, just flooding out her emotion.(Not all women) and then be able to treat the man she cried over as though he were a stranger and she'll seem cold. Because she let out her emotion she got over it. Whereas Men, we could take that same relationship if we really wanted it and be crushed by it for Months!(I was divorced, I know) We won't cry floods of tears and even if we do we don't do it all day as a woman usually would. So it is a longer process considering we hold it in longer. It lasts even longer when if we ever see the girl again and she treats us like a stranger. These are just my thoughts, I don't mean to force them on anyone.

I just felt my observations needed some explaining.
Mustang

[Oberon]

You're missing John Archer ;)

But that's forgivable.

I agree with what you said about Sisko though, and to me, that's one of the things that made DS9 so memorable. Here was a captain that wasn't so bound by the right and wrong judgements of the others. Take 'In the Pale Moonlight' for example (great episode) where he lands up accessory to murder, all to bring the Romulan star empire into the war...and in the end, despite knowing that what he did was wrong, he had to admit that it was done for the right reasons.
And well...'The siege of AR-558', I couldn't see any other trek series doing that the way DS9 did.
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[Onkel Neal]

Infidels :D
This is the great leader! :yep:
http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_tv/startrek_038.gif

:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[DAB]

May I put in a mention for Captain Pike.

One of the early pioneers.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/images/7/74/Pike1.jpg

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James Tiberious Kirk,
although thought to have been womanizing and impulsive. James Kirk had to be the closest character in all the series to actually displaying Humanity. (I'm not talking about shatner, as most his cast would say he was quite difficult to work with.) But Jim kirk set the standard for Star Trek and the Federation Directives, though he occasionally bent them at times. His actions led to a greater good, the ends do not always justify the means. However his means usually came to a positive outcome. While many think he was womanizer, the truth is he was appreciator of women. Jim kirk did something no other Captain in Starfleet had. He looked for the similarities in all species, he looked for humanity in all things and tried to make an amicable relationship based on those similarities. Impulsive yes, he always leaped before he looked.

I got to disagree with your assumption that he always looked for the "Humanity" in other species. He wanted to take revenge on all Klingons for killing his son. Same thing with that Cloud Creature in "Obsession". You said he was an ‘appreciator of women’ would you care to back that up with some examples? This guy left a trail of bastard children across the galaxy! Ok he had only two (that I can remember) David Marcus and Miramanee’s Child who was killed when she was stoned to death.

I guess I’m being hypocritical since I think Captain Rudy (Rudolf?) Ransom (of the USS Equinox from ST: Voyager episodes of the same name) was a good commander even though he committed mass murder to insure the survival of his crew.

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May I put in a mention for Captain Pike. Don’t forget Robert April the first CO of the 1701. ;)

[Pigfish]

You said he was an ‘appreciator of women’ would you care to back that up with some examples? This guy left a trail of bastard children across the galaxy! Ok he had only two (that I can remember) David Marcus and Miramanee’s Child who was killed when she was stoned to death.

I guess I’m being hypocritical since I think Captain Rudy (Rudolf?) Ransom (of the USS Equinox from ST: Voyager episodes of the same name) was a good commander even though he committed mass murder to insure the survival of his crew.

I always liked the episode with the subtle scene in, I think, 'Wink Of An Eye.'

Theres a scene where Kirk is sitting on the edge of the cute Scalosians (sp) bed and he's slipping on his boots. :cool:

The ships in trouble and shes the enemy but he still found the time. Way to go Kirk! :up:

[Mustang]

James Tiberious Kirk,
although thought to have been womanizing and impulsive. James Kirk had to be the closest character in all the series to actually displaying Humanity. (I'm not talking about shatner, as most his cast would say he was quite difficult to work with.) But Jim kirk set the standard for Star Trek and the Federation Directives, though he occasionally bent them at times. His actions led to a greater good, the ends do not always justify the means. However his means usually came to a positive outcome. While many think he was womanizer, the truth is he was appreciator of women. Jim kirk did something no other Captain in Starfleet had. He looked for the similarities in all species, he looked for humanity in all things and tried to make an amicable relationship based on those similarities. Impulsive yes, he always leaped before he looked.

I got to disagree with your assumption that he always looked for the "Humanity" in other species. He wanted to take revenge on all Klingons for killing his son. Same thing with that Cloud Creature in "Obsession". You said he was an ‘appreciator of women’ would you care to back that up with some examples? This guy left a trail of bastard children across the galaxy! Ok he had only two (that I can remember) David Marcus and Miramanee’s Child who was killed when she was stoned to death.

I guess I’m being hypocritical since I think Captain Rudy (Rudolf?) Ransom (of the USS Equinox from ST: Voyager episodes of the same name) was a good commander even though he committed mass murder to insure the survival of his crew.

I don't really follow the movies, I never cared for any except The Undiscovered Country and the Wrath of Khan.

Alright,
If it is examples you wish,
On Mudd's women.
The Enterprise is dispatched to an Emergency Distress from Henry Mudd's freighter as it is about to collide with a asteroid while it tried to fly through the Asteroid field. The enterprise damaged three of its dilithium crystals and the only way to repair it was to fine lithium and the only lithium mine in the sector was Rigel 12, Mudd is using some kind of narcotic on three women to enhance their beauty*pheromones I think)
and is trying to sell them to the miners on Rigel 12, one of the girls evie finds herself attracted to Kirk and him to her. When the enterprise arrived on Rigel 12 Mudd and the women beam down to surface, where Evie(one of the three women) becomes fed up with her plight and runs away, but Kirk finds her without difficulty using ship sensors. In the meantime, he learns the secret to the women's beauty: Mudd has been providing them with the Venus drug. Childress(one of the miners) rescues Evie, but wants nothing to do with her when her beauty effect wears off. Kirk beams down to collect the lithium from Childress, at the same time providing Evie with red gelatin that she believes to be the Venus drug. Evie believes herself once again to be beautiful, and unintentionally reveals her natural inner beauty. In the end, Kirk gets his lithium, and helps evie to find her natural qualities.

In Charlie X, when Charlie gave Rand a swat on the fanny, she protested, and chastised him for it. Later she asked the Captain to give the kid a talking to on her behalf, and Kirk was happy to oblige. In Kirk's conversation with Charlie that followed, it was made clear that Kirk has great respect for Rand, and for women's rights in general.

Captain John Christopher, the 20th century jet pilot, sees many astounding things aboard the 23rd century starship, in Tomorrow Is Yesterday. One thing that really impressed him was the sight of this person strolling through the halls.

"A woman!?" Christopher exclaimed.

"A crewman", Kirk blandly replied.


That is just a few of the many episodes, one could scour the Guides for days finding evidence to support my theory. You may think Kirk was a womanizer but some could say the same about James Bond. In all honest, besides kissing which is done quite a bit. I don't see how he could be seen as womanizing.

. woman·ized, woman·iz·ing, woman·iz·es
v. intr.
To pursue women lecherously.

v. tr.
To give female characteristics to; feminize.

I didn't see him as a lecher.
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Ransom wasn't a bad guy, he was just comitting mass genocide for his own selfish needs. He had a crew and he did everything he could for them which included throwing out the Prime Directive and interfering with the evolution of another species. Though this may seem as compassionate, if he ever got his crew home that way they would all be court martialed in one way or another and have to live with the guilt they single handedly plotted and executed the near extinction of an unhostile alien species which was only known to them by the trust of the locals who shared the creature's existance with them.

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Ransom wasn't a bad guy, he was just comitting mass genocide for his own selfish needs. He had a crew and he did everything he could for them which included throwing out the Prime Directive and interfering with the evolution of another species. Though this may seem as compassionate, if he ever got his crew home that way they would all be court martialed in one way or another and have to live with the guilt they single handedly plotted and executed the near extinction of an unhostile alien species which was only known to them by the trust of the locals who shared the creature's existance with them. I disagree that it was selfish; he was doing it for his crew and his ship. Quite the opposite of selfishness if you ask me.

You can respect woman and still be lecherous. In the end he was always just trying to get in their pants or get something they owned. He never really fell in love with anyone like Picard or Sisko did.

‘Tomorrow is Yesterday’ is a bad example since woman served in the military back then IIRC. The writers were just trying to make a point, what do you bet that crewman was just a Yeoman and not an engineer or security officer? Even Uhura was just a glorified telephone operator! The first equal female character we see on Star Trek is Maj. Kira on DS9.

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I disagree that it was selfish; he was doing it for his crew and his ship. Quite the opposite of selfishness if you ask me.

You can respect woman and still be lecherous. In the end he was always just trying to get in their pants or get something they owned. He never really fell in love with anyone like Picard or Sisko did.

‘Tomorrow is Yesterday’ is a bad example since woman served in the military back then IIRC. The writers were just trying to make a point, what do you bet that crewman was just a Yeoman and not an engineer or security officer? Even Uhura was just a glorified telephone operator! The first equal female character we see on Star Trek is Maj. Kira on DS9.

Alright my friend perhaps you should have a look here,
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/toswomen.htm
I think we're both at a stalemate considering neither of us has incontrovertible proof that Kirk was or was not a lecher.

Perhaps I should rephrase, Ransom and his crew were being selfish. They murdered an alien species as fuel for their journey home. In a way that was him being personally selfish because instead of following protocol and being respectful to all sentient life. Ransom ignored all the oaths he took in joining starfleet so he could get himself and his crew home. You could say he was doing it for them but if he were thinking about his crew he wouldn't have ordered them to violate and abandon all the laws they swore to uphold.

Yeoman Rand was the Captain's secretary not a glorified position in any respect but the responsibility for administering all the staff aboard the ship by writing up duty rosters can't be easy and I respect that the enterprise's stations were crewed at all times without sleepy crew. Nurse Chapel was also a respectable character with a respectable job, she saved peoples' lives, in truth all shows of that time period used women as supporting roles. But Star Trek did something that no other show did. Uhura was African-American and she was a Woman and she was part of the senior staff not the ship's maid or cook or any other part. She was the communication's officer in effect the Radio-woman for the ship. You try running a switchboard sometime and tell me you don't find some new kind of respect for the job.

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Perhaps I should rephrase, Ransom and his crew were being selfish. They murdered an alien species as fuel for their journey home. In a way that was him being personally selfish because instead of following protocol and being respectful to all sentient life. Ransom ignored all the oaths he took in joining starfleet so he could get himself and his crew home. You could say he was doing it for them but if he were thinking about his crew he wouldn't have ordered them to violate and abandon all the laws they swore to uphold. Remember that his ship was falling apart and his crew was dieing? So if he cared about his crew he would have let them die? He did follow protocol:

Regulation 3 (Paragraph 12): In the event of imminent destruction, a Starfleet Captain is authorized to preserve the lives of his crew by any justifiable means.

This is exactly the type of situation this reg was written for.

Kirk seemed to use this a few times, 'The Immunity Syndrome' he orders Spock to destroy what is possibly a unique life form that is threading the Federation. 'A Taste of Armageddon' he changes two civilization’s way of life to save his ship- it seems a nice ending but what if by destroying that computer he just gave one side an opportunity to crush the other (one side can't take casualties in their war) or just forced them to fight it out again?


Yeoman Rand was the Captain's secretary not a glorified position in any respect but the responsibility for administering all the staff aboard the ship by writing up duty rosters can't be easy and I respect that the enterprise's stations were crewed at all times without sleepy crew. Wasn't there an episode where a crewman was asleep at his station? Or I'm I just thinking of when Checkov was playing with that Tribble. I'm suprise Rand got any respect, the only reason you don't pi$$ off the Yeoman is because they give you you're paycheck (no money in the 23rd century...) :lol:

Nurse Chapel was also a respectable character with a respectable job, she saved peoples' lives, True that the Enterprise did seem to have the lowest death toil of any Starfleet ship shown on TOS, which is kinda scary...

But Star Trek did something that no other show did. Uhura was African-American and she was a Woman and she was part of the senior staff not the ship's maid or cook or any other part. She was the communication's officer in effect the Radio-woman for the ship. You try running a switchboard sometime and tell me you don't find some new kind of respect for the job. But do we ever seem a Man do that job? (1st time we see a man as the comm. officer is once on ‘Enterprise’ I think, of course in the other three shows communications was merged with other departments. Hoshi Sato, Uhura and Janice Rand were all comm. officers.) My point is that all of the jobs Woman have up till TNG were really "woman’s work" types of jobs. Until Tasha Yar (a security officer) we never see them out side of Medicine or answering phones or filing papers.

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Remember that his ship was falling apart and his crew was dieing? So if he cared about his crew he would have let them die? He did follow protocol:


Regulation 3 (Paragraph 12): In the event of imminent destruction, a Starfleet Captain is authorized to preserve the lives of his crew by any justifiable means.


I don't think Genocide is justifiable by any means. One crew compared to an entire Federation, well that seems more justifiable then a single crew. Kirk risked his crew to stop that thing and was given no choice. Ransom had a choice he did not need to use the creatures he could have travelled home by the less morally atrocious means that voyager did, note I said Less.

Ummm... A taste of Armageddon, where the two aliens fought wars by shooting computer simulations at each other and then vaporizing their people to avoid collateral damage? He didn't destroy the computers to save his crew, he and his crew had broken free he could have beamed to the enterprise but he chose to destroy the computer to stop the senseless killing. By using those computers there was no communication only simulated war and suicide. His actions bent the prime directive but as you said he could have invoked Reg. 3. But he didn't have to destroy it, he felt it was his moral obligation.

I see no relation to those events and how Ransom was purposely murdering creatures for a jump to speed for his trip home. He used those creatures like they were whiskey to batten a mix. He didn't do it because he had no choice, their ship was far better armed then voyager and had More power it could have gotten home by its own steam. The aliens he used were not a threat to anyone Ransom made Humanoids a threat to them.

Wasn't there an episode where a crewman was asleep at his station? Or I'm I just thinking of when Checkov was playing with that Tribble. I'm suprise Rand got any respect, the only reason you don't pi$$ off the Yeoman is because they give you you're paycheck (no money in the 23rd century...)

Surprised or not, she held a job at which she could fire anyone. She was in effect the ship's political officer. Yet, I don't remember her ever dictating federation regulations to kirk. But she was his link to Starfleet if she saw fit she could ruin his command. And Rand was not only the ship's secretary. Many times she was the Transporter Chief and Operations Officer.

But do we ever seem a Man do that job? (1st time we see a man as the comm. officer is once on ‘Enterprise’ I think, of course in the other three shows communications was merged with other departments. Hoshi Sato, Uhura and Janice Rand were all comm. officers.) My point is that all of the jobs Woman have up till TNG were really "woman’s work" types of jobs. Until Tasha Yar (a security officer) we never see them out side of Medicine or answering phones or filing papers.

I believe I stated that period in time held that kind of mentality but on occasion I remember some of the admirals in Starfleet were female. If all else fails in 'The Enterprise Incident.' the Romulan commander was a female. In the 1970s most of the media casted women as supportive roles. I don't see how that relates to Kirk being a womanizer. If memory serves he was the first attempt to show the Future in the star Trek universe where such prejudices were long forgotten. This topic was brought to light in which the two monochrome people Bele and Lokai had been trying to kill one another because of the slight different in the color swatches on their faces. They later discover their world killed itself over such racism and the two are the last survivors.

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Remember that his ship was falling apart and his crew was dieing? So if he cared about his crew he would have let them die? He did follow protocol:


Regulation 3 (Paragraph 12): In the event of imminent destruction, a Starfleet Captain is authorized to preserve the lives of his crew by any justifiable means.


I don't think Genocide is justifiable by any means. One crew compared to an entire Federation, well that seems more justifiable then a single crew. Kirk risked his crew to stop that thing and was given no choice. Ransom had a choice he did not need to use the creatures he could have travelled home by the less morally atrocious means that voyager did, note I said Less. First off it was not Genocide! Capt. Ransom didn't intend to exterminate the species; he would have stopped when he reached the Federation. He didn't plan on killing the life forms he was trying to access the power generated from where they lived. He accidentally killed one and they started attacking his ship. He committed one act of Involuntary Manslaughter the rest was self defense- using the bodies of the dead life forms for fuel isn't really a crime and using that device to trap more is just strategic warfare.

Ummm... A taste of Armageddon, where the two aliens fought wars by shooting computer simulations at each other and then vaporizing their people to avoid collateral damage? He didn't destroy the computers to save his crew, he and his crew had broken free he could have beamed to the enterprise but he chose to destroy the computer to stop the senseless killing. By using those computers there was no communication only simulated war and suicide. His actions bent the prime directive but as you said he could have invoked Reg. 3. But he didn't have to destroy it; he felt it was his moral obligation. No the Enterprise was ruled killed by a mine or something by the computer, that is why he destroyed the computer.

I see no relation to those events and how Ransom was purposely murdering creatures for a jump to speed for his trip home. He used those creatures like they were whiskey to batten a mix. He didn't do it because he had no choice, their ship was far better armed then voyager and had More power it could have gotten home by its own steam. The aliens he used were not a threat to anyone Ransom made Humanoids a threat to them. No a Nova-class ship is a short range vessel designed for surveys. It was lightly armed and had a much lower crew complement. Take a look at each ship's stats:
Intrepid Class:
Length: 344.5 Meters
Crew: 150
Velocity:
Cruising: Warp 6
Maximum: Warp 9.975
Duration
Standard Mission: 6 Years
Recommended Yard Overhaul: 24 years
Weapons:
11 Type X Phasers
4 Photon Torpedo Tubes
Embarked Craft:
4(0) Shuttlecraft :lol:

Nova Class:
Length 165 meters
Crew: 80
Velocity
Cruising: Warp 6
Maximum: Warp 8
Duration:
Standard Mission: 2 years
Recommended Yard Overhaul: 6 years
Weapons:
11 Type X Phasers
2 Photon Torpedo Tubes
Embarked Craft:
2 Shuttlecraft etc

And as I said before he made a mistake by killing one of them the rest was self defense.

[Mustang]

Remember that his ship was falling apart and his crew was dieing? So if he cared about his crew he would have let them die? He did follow protocol:


Regulation 3 (Paragraph 12): In the event of imminent destruction, a Starfleet Captain is authorized to preserve the lives of his crew by any justifiable means.


I don't think Genocide is justifiable by any means. One crew compared to an entire Federation, well that seems more justifiable then a single crew. Kirk risked his crew to stop that thing and was given no choice. Ransom had a choice he did not need to use the creatures he could have travelled home by the less morally atrocious means that voyager did, note I said Less. First off it was not Genocide! Capt. Ransom didn't intend to exterminate the species; he would have stopped when he reached the Federation. He didn't plan on killing the life forms he was trying to access the power generated from where they lived. He accidentally killed one and they started attacking his ship. He committed one act of Involuntary Manslaughter the rest was self defense- using the bodies of the dead life forms for fuel isn't really a crime and using that device to trap more is just strategic warfare.

Ummm... A taste of Armageddon, where the two aliens fought wars by shooting computer simulations at each other and then vaporizing their people to avoid collateral damage? He didn't destroy the computers to save his crew, he and his crew had broken free he could have beamed to the enterprise but he chose to destroy the computer to stop the senseless killing. By using those computers there was no communication only simulated war and suicide. His actions bent the prime directive but as you said he could have invoked Reg. 3. But he didn't have to destroy it; he felt it was his moral obligation. No the Enterprise was ruled killed by a mine or something by the computer, that is why he destroyed the computer.

I see no relation to those events and how Ransom was purposely murdering creatures for a jump to speed for his trip home. He used those creatures like they were whiskey to batten a mix. He didn't do it because he had no choice, their ship was far better armed then voyager and had More power it could have gotten home by its own steam. The aliens he used were not a threat to anyone Ransom made Humanoids a threat to them. No a Nova-class ship is a short range vessel designed for surveys. It was lightly armed and had a much lower crew complement. Take a look at each ship's stats:
Intrepid Class:
Length: 344.5 Meters
Crew: 150
Velocity:
Cruising: Warp 6
Maximum: Warp 9.975
Duration
Standard Mission: 6 Years
Recommended Yard Overhaul: 24 years
Weapons:
11 Type X Phasers
4 Photon Torpedo Tubes
Embarked Craft:
4(0) Shuttlecraft :lol:

Nova Class:
Length 165 meters
Crew: 80
Velocity
Cruising: Warp 6
Maximum: Warp 8
Duration:
Standard Mission: 2 years
Recommended Yard Overhaul: 6 years
Weapons:
11 Type X Phasers
2 Photon Torpedo Tubes
Embarked Craft:
2 Shuttlecraft etc

And as I said before he made a mistake by killing one of them the rest was self defense.

The creatures were reported to be few in number by the natives that introduced them to the Equinox's crew. He was well awhere it was exterminating the species. The only time he gave it a second thought is when they started attacking his crew in defense. The voyager and Equinox fought over this, it was immorale perhaps strategic but immoral. If you took an oath, pledged your life to the service of something and your crew took that same oath they are obligated to uphold that oath. It is unethical to attempt to justify murder for self-preservation is admirable.

You should rewatch the episode, the enterprise broke free of the computer and kirk broke free of his holding cell. Though a violation of the prime directive, his actions didn't murder helpless people. They stopped it from happening in the form of mass suicide.

If I remember the Equinox was a threat in Voyager, the two ships battled and Voyager was at a disadvantage.

[TLAM Strike]

The creatures were reported to be few in number by the natives that introduced them to the Equinox's crew. He was well awhere it was exterminating the species. The only time he gave it a second thought is when they started attacking his crew in defense. The voyager and Equinox fought over this, it was immorale perhaps strategic but immoral. If you took an oath, pledged your life to the service of something and your crew took that same oath they are obligated to uphold that oath. It is unethical to attempt to justify murder for self-preservation is admirable. If you look at Ransom's face when that first life form is killed he shows remorse. The population of the life forms is never disscussed. Also he sacrifices him self and his ship when he loses the ability to return home and knows Voyager is the best places for the remainder of his crew. A Captain has a duty to his crew that transcends any oath he took.

You should rewatch the episode, the enterprise broke free of the computer and kirk broke free of his holding cell. Though a violation of the prime directive, his actions didn't murder helpless people. They stopped it from happening in the form of mass suicide. I haven't seem that episode in a while maybe the Enterprise did escape. If the ship didn't escape he would be breaking the Prime Directive to save it.

If I remember the Equinox was a threat in Voyager, the two ships battled and Voyager was at a disadvantage. That was because Ransom found a way to penetrate their shields, otherwise the Equinox didn't stand a chance. Ransom also had their force field emitter so Voyager was vulnerable to the life forms and Equinox was not.

[Iceman]

LMAO...Dat was funny...