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[Skybird]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4519446.stm

No words can describe how I feel.

[Etienne]

Heh.

[Polak]

;)

[Ramius]

the bird's killer was fined for shooting a protected species.

:rotfl: How the hell is a spuggy a protected species :huh: :huh:

[Camaero]

wow :rotfl:

[Konovalov]

the bird's killer was fined for shooting a protected species.

:rotfl: How the hell is a spuggy a protected species :huh: :huh:

:rotfl: :rotfl:

I was thinking the same thing. What is next to be a protected species? The cockroach or blowfly perhaps? :hmm:

[XabbaRus]

Tree huggers have gone mad.

I think there is something seriously wrong with people who will put the life of an animal above that of a human.

Can anyone also tell me that these Animal Liberation Front thing refuse medication on the ground that it has more than likely been tested on animals? And would they in the future?

In the UK there have been special laws put in place that stop the ALF and their ilk from hassling people and can have them locked up. Bascially anti-terrorism legislation tailored to animal rights nutters.

The real nuts complain they are being treated like terrorists but then quite a few of them act like them..

The world has gone mad.

[SmithN23]

are tree huggers a protected species? can we shoot them? :D :D

[Excalibur Bane]

Wow. Fascinating. :roll:

The world is fortunate I do not have any kind of authority, otherwise I would execute every person in this "Animal Rights" group in this particular area, along with their children and anyone else with a drop of their blood in them, so they don't contribute worthless material to the genetic pool.

Einstein was right, human stupidity is definately endless.

[DAB]

I think the Sparrow is more endangered on the Continent then in the British Isles (to answer the remarks of a few of the British contributers)

As for the greaving. This has been going on for a while (I'm suprised it hasn't been picked up here before). I find it funny but also take heart...I think we would all be horrified if popular culture had no regard for any life.

Reminds me of the last day of the US elections. In Europe and the UK, there was a lot of ammusement over the fact that in order to show himself as "One with Nature", John Kerry felt the need to march into a forrest with a shotgun and shoot at the local wildlife.

The various explanations that will be given in reply to this post should prove amusing during my lunch break tomorrow

[Excalibur Bane]

Wow. Fascinating. :roll:

The world is fortunate I do not have any kind of authority, otherwise I would execute every person in this "Animal Rights" group in this particular area, along with their children and anyone else with a drop of their blood in them, so they don't contribute worthless material to the genetic pool.

Einstein was right, human stupidity is definately endless.

Actually, scratch that. I would execute them and THEN stuff them, mount them on the plaque and put it in the middle of the city as a warning to the next ten generations about what happens to stupid people. :shifty:

[CCIP]

I don't see why the hostility.

Animal rights groups that let tigers out of zoos or cows out of farms, sure. THAT's stupid.

But I do take sympathy for the sparrow here, although it's obvious that the issue is a little overblown. 'Tree huggers' or not - learn some compassion, will you? There's a distinction between killing something that wants to eat you or something that you want to eat - and killing something over a bunch of dominos.

I'm personally far more amused by people running around killing sparrows over dominos than people making memorials for dead sparrows. Freakin' dominos don't live and breathe. :roll:

[Excalibur Bane]

I don't see why the hostility.

Animal rights groups that let tigers out of zoos or cows out of farms, sure. THAT's stupid.

But I do take sympathy for the sparrow here, although it's obvious that the issue is a little overblown. 'Tree huggers' or not - learn some compassion, will you? There's a distinction between killing something that wants to eat you or something that you want to eat - and killing something over a bunch of dominos.

I'm personally far more amused by people running around killing sparrows over dominos than people making memorials for dead sparrows. Freakin' dominos don't live and breathe. :roll:

Hmm. Actually, I would be more inclined to show compassion to someone who let a Tiger out of a zoo. They have the right idea, in a sense. The Tiger is most likely suffering, being enclosed all the time and having people point and stare at you all day can't be good for one's mental health, human or animal.

These people are just naturally stupid, or their parents taught it to them I suppose. Although, stupidity to this degree is very hard to teach, it usually comes naturally to one.

Why is it stupid? Simple, it's a sparrow. A bird. Nothing more, nothing less. Nature will not weep because it is dead, nor will the ecosystem shrivel up and die because it's short one bird. Life isn't quite as fragile as these fools would like us to believe.

Beyond that, I very much doubt that the sparrow even knew what hit him when he was shot. I would suspect it died instantly, but they didn't list what kind of weapon that was used or show the wound, so I don't know for sure. "Air gun" is a bit vague.

As far as I'm concerned, this has absolutely nothing to do with animal rights. In this case, if a sparrow tried to screw up a domino record that took hundreds of hours to setup, your damn right I'm gonna shoot it's ass. Simple human behavior. What else are you going to do? Arrest it? No, I don't think so. :roll:

The fine is justified, but a televised memorial is a gross waste of resources, not to mention a memorial website. They should have used their money more wisely and spent it doing something productive, like freeing tortured animals in other countries that are forced to dance and stuff like that.

I'll be sure to erect an obsidian stoned memorial, and launch a huge website next time you decided to hit a fly with a swatter because it's annoying. :shifty:

[Iceman]

I suspect those loud azz blow horns used at football games etc would have scared the bird off too....knuckleheads. :88)

A twist also on Skybirds "Warmonger" thread....just an intresting connection I thought lol



Matthew 10
[28] And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
[29] Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
[30] But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
[31] Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
[32] Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

:sunny:

[Hitman]

Well everyone has its own opinion, and mine is that (Despite not being a fanatic wildlife protector) such a stupid thing as trying to set up a new guiness record in domino falling is not worth the life of a single sparrow. I don't know what Skybird meant when he said he felt so sad, but personally I feel very SAD to see that our human race has reach a stupidity level such as to consider a guiness record in domino falling a matter of life or death for an innocent sparrow that with no trace of harming willigness steped over it.

Some people should stop for a second and rethink a bit about their lives if they are so immersed in consumism, pleasure life and lack of moral references as to consider it justified to perform such an action. Though I agree that punishing this crminally is a bit exaggerated, as the moral pain the author should feel -if he was rational enough- should be enough. And if he is not rational enough to understand this, well, then he has already received a much more severe punishment by the nature. :stare:

[The Avon Lady]

I can just picture GreenPeace or similar getting an elephant into next year's domino record breaking event.

[Oberon]

Well everyone has its own opinion, and mine is that (Despite not being a fanatic wildlife protector) such a stupid thing as trying to set up a new guiness record in domino falling is not worth the life of a single sparrow. I don't know what Skybird meant when he said he felt so sad, but personally I feel very SAD to see that our human race has reach a stupidity level such as to consider a guiness record in domino falling a matter of life or death for an innocent sparrow that with no trace of harming willigness steped over it.

Some people should stop for a second and rethink a bit about their lives if they are so immersed in consumism, pleasure life and lack of moral references as to consider it justified to perform such an action. Though I agree that punishing this crminally is a bit exaggerated, as the moral pain the author should feel -if he was rational enough- should be enough. And if he is not rational enough to understand this, well, then he has already received a much more severe punishment by the nature. :stare:

:up: :know: :up:

[TteFAboB]

Who let the sparrow in?! He's the one that should be shot, you plan a dominoe world record, you make sure nobody steps too hard on the floor, you make sure nobody breathe heavily near the pieces, you make sure no gust of wind blows in, but you didn't checked for birds or any other possibly damaging life form before or for the duration of the experiment? Humans come in, dominoes come in, humans go out, dominoes stay in, birds stay out, where did the chain broke?

But I don't see one wild-life protector, I only see people appearing in the media to gain visibility, popularity and whatever else, and by making a memorial, prolong the duration of the effect.

I do not know about sparrows in the netherlands to judge if the endangered species status is correct or not.

I do not know which wild-life organizations protested and if these organizations are truely animal protectors with a background and proper projects.

Either way, the bird is absolutely innocent, the responsability lies on the superior species, the people in that warehouse, and even though the motivation seems to be an execution, fines and a criminal charge will not deviate the shooter's mind from pure materialism and teach him anything, he ALSO needs community service at a Zoo, or be asked to maintain a bird alive in his home for 6 months, if the bird dies, more community service, even if he doesn't get the message the Zoo keepers will thank for having a slave to bring them hot coffee and clean their dirty boots.

[Hitman]

the responsability lies on the superior species

Yeah, the problem is that some people are determined to proof sistematically that we are not really the superior specie :hmm:

fines and a criminal charge will not deviate the shooter's mind from pure materialism and teach him anything, he ALSO needs community service at a Zoo, or be asked to maintain a bird alive in his home for 6 months, if the bird dies, more community service

:up:

[StdDev]

Was it African or European?

[Neptunus Rex]

the bird's killer was fined for shooting a protected species.

:rotfl: How the hell is a spuggy a protected species :huh: :huh:

It fly's, and it's a bird. Therfore it might migrate to warmer climates in winter.

It's that damd migritory species act. :dead:

[Skybird]

I think on the next Domino event they should install a HAWK battery for anti-sparrow-defense. :smug:

Domino shows. Why haven't they shot the producer instead...? :cool:

[Excalibur Bane]

I think on the next Domino event they should install a HAWK battery for anti-sparrow-defense. :smug:

Domino shows. Why haven't they shot the producer instead...? :cool:

Hmm. A little mini AA gun would do the trick too, I imagine. :arrgh!:

[tycho102]

are tree huggers a protected species? can we shoot them? :D :D

The tree hugger in me is sad that they killed the bird over the dominos, and feels a little better that they are holding a funeral.

The realist in me would either brough in a trained hawk to eat the sparrow, or more desirable, setup a net and bird seed to trap the bird. THEN, secured the [censored] doors and the rest of the building so that I didn't have to kill any more birds. I would have a done something to prevent other birds from getting in, which is what the hell they should've been doing in the first place.



So, Mr. Warmonger, please don't shoot at me...'cause i might just shoot back. ;)

[TLAM Strike]

Is using a Hawk really that much better? At least with an air gun its quick with a hawk it could be nasty and long. Getting eaten, yikes I would rather be shot.

[CCIP]

But at least a hawk would eat and maybe feed its family, rather than putting the poor guy in a museum exhibit :lol:

[TteFAboB]

So, Mr. Warmonger...

Hooray! I got Skybird a new nickname! :rotfl:

Yeah, the problem is that some people are determined to proof sistematically that we are not really the superior specie

Indeed, but we should keep the formal status untill Sparrows start shooting back. :-j

[Wim Libaers]

Is using a Hawk really that much better? At least with an air gun its quick with a hawk it could be nasty and long. Getting eaten, yikes I would rather be shot.

Sure, but it makes things harder for the environmentalists because the killer is a bird too :lol:

[FERdeBOER]

Wow. Fascinating. :roll:

The world is fortunate I do not have any kind of authority, otherwise I would execute every person in this "Animal Rights" group in this particular area, along with their children and anyone else with a drop of their blood in them, so they don't contribute worthless material to the genetic pool.

Einstein was right, human stupidity is definately endless.

Actually, scratch that. I would execute them and THEN stuff them, mount them on the plaque and put it in the middle of the city as a warning to the next ten generations about what happens to stupid people. :shifty:

Hmmm :hmm: if a bird can knock down 23.000 dominoes... how many could a person? :rotfl: :rotfl:

I know is a bit oversized, but being so alarming are the "work" of enviromental and animals protectors because if not, the simple peasant would not take care "oh, is a bird, who minds a simple bird".
If you don't gripe for a bird, the next time will be two birds, then 3 birds, then a REAL ENDANGERED bird... and for the stupid reason of a domino show. :nope: KILL YOUR PET!!

[snowsub]

I can just picture GreenPeace or similar getting an elephant into next year's domino record breaking event.

And using the elephants as dominos :o :o

[The Avon Lady]

I can just picture GreenPeace or similar getting an elephant into next year's domino record breaking event.
And using the elephants as dominos :o :o
Or user larger dominos.

http://images.art.com/images/-/Fats-Domino--C10103858.jpeg

[Bellman]

In tune with Skybirds original irony - can we applaud the fastidiousness of the legal process ;)
Conclusion of the BBC article:
The bird was kept in a government freezer after its killing became a criminal matter.

It will be placed on top of a box of dominoes in an exhibition on sparrows next year. :o :huh: :stare: :arrgh!: :rotfl:

[Abraham]

I am a proud Dutchman and I think this proves that our country got it's priorities right!

Maybe you think - like me - that Skybird has a self interest in protecting the life of birds. Nevertheless the bird in question was an European Sparrow, which is fastly getting extinct in our country (due to modern building styles) and is protected by law.

The Domino record attempt was held in a huge hal in Friesland and the bird just happened to be inside this hal. It is not recorded that anybody let the sparrow in (it was a wild bird).

The bird was shot with a high powered air gun that severed one of her (the bird was female) wings at the root and caused immediate failure of her fligh capabilities.

I think the media exposure was overdone and resting the remains of the sparrow in the Rotterdam Museum of Nature is in my view nothing more but a publicity stunt.

However, there is a more serious matter concerning discrimination in this case that has escaped much of the public attention. During the record attempt there was a moment that the dominoes failed to fall. A hand of one of the 'officials' who were seated at critical points was captured on camera "helping" the record attempt, by throwing over some domino tiles, as could clearly be seen in slow motion. this is one of the reasons that the record attempt is still under investigation by the people of the Guiness Book of Records.
Although this man caused more domino tiles to fall than the bird did some days earlier, no punitive action was taken against this man. I find that a clear case of discrimination between man and animal.

[Skybird]

Skybirds original irony