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Venatore
11-18-05, 05:50 PM
I'm the captain of U-657. I was just wondering if you are using a log book within the game, like SH2. If so is there a mod for this?


Venatore

Trav_R
11-18-05, 05:51 PM
Man, I would love that. The paper and pen thing sucks, I get tired of it and quit after a couple entries.

Keelbuster
11-18-05, 05:54 PM
How could they leave that out?! I really would love to have this feature...

kb

CWorth
11-18-05, 06:18 PM
Sad thing is from what I read in another thread.The log book you can write to in game was going to be a feature as one of the modders(can't remember who) found the unfinished parts of it in the games files.

Chalk it up to one more feature the devs did not finish in this game. :nope:

HEMISENT
11-18-05, 06:39 PM
About a month or so ago there was a mod (test version i think) called SH3 Companion. I could never get it to work right-finally gave up. Have not heard any more about it since. Sorry to say because it really was very neat and appeared well thought out.

CCIP
11-18-05, 08:01 PM
I use a paper logbook.

Or logbooks, rather. You see those WaW stats below? I've kept a detailed record of each of my patrols there - a shame I can't find time to type them up.

Currently, I have 2.6 small 5.5x3.5 inch, 300-400-page notebooks full of notes. That's an average of almost 3 pages per "day" on patrol :huh:

Trav_R
11-18-05, 08:05 PM
I just can't do the pen and paper thing. I type a lot faster than I write, and I don't like sitting there writing a bunch of stuff out on my paper while the game goes on. I would like it better if I could go to my "bed" and do my writing in there, with the keyboard. Then it all stays in the game, all nice and neat, and I feel like I'm actually doing it through the captain instead of as an "extra" bit that I do for myself. Man, it's just such an easy thing to implement that could have added so much to the game, it bugs me that it wasn't.

kiwi_2005
11-19-05, 12:06 AM
Well since starting Wolves at war ive had to keep tabs on my patrols so i note down when i make contacts, sinkings etc., including time, date and so on. We have to write out a KTB report when we finish our patrol and email back to waw.

I now keep a log on my my SH3 campaigns that haven't anything to do with WAW. I think its a good idea.

gdogghenrikson
11-19-05, 01:05 AM
I now keep a log on my my SH3 campaigns that haven't anything to do with WAW. I think its a good idea.

Sounds kinda nerd like.....no offense

kiwi_2005
11-19-05, 01:17 AM
Sounds kinda nerd like.....no offense

It is nerd like. :)

Thats why i like it. After i fin a patrol i go to all the trouble of add my data into Microsoft Access database. For storage.

I use to be a network administrator now unemployed so i miss doing stuff like this, until i discovered keeping logs.

no offense taken

Trav_R
11-19-05, 04:37 AM
Nerdy or not, it's a lot of work writing all that stuff down. That's why I can't keep up with it. I do it off and on, but many of my patrols aren't written down, I just get tired of it. I think if there were a way to do it in-game, I would do it. But, like I said, the pen-and-paper method doesn't cut it for me.

HMCS
11-19-05, 08:18 AM
Hit alt-tab and you can go to desktop and use wordpad.

It is nerd-like; but then again, that's what we are, aren't we?

Hudsonhawk
11-19-05, 08:58 AM
That's a Good Idea .....HMCS :up:

gdogghenrikson
11-19-05, 04:00 PM
Hit alt-tab and you can go to desktop and use wordpad.

It is nerd-like; but then again, that's what we are, aren't we? :up:


If it was in game it wouldnt be nerdy but ubisoft didnt include it in the game (yet, it was in SH2).........dumb ubisoft

JScones
11-19-05, 07:54 PM
There's third party diary tools available - checkout http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=33313 for more info.

There's also SH3 Companion - checkout http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=43612&highlight=sh3+companion but note that you will need to install v2.0 of the .NET Framework first (can cause problems for some users).

These all work on the Alt-Tab-out-type-in-text-Alt-Tab-back-in approach.

You may like to know that Beery and I are working on an alternate method, which should appear in the next release of SH3 Commander - pending successful testing of course!

HEMISENT
11-19-05, 11:14 PM
I've said before and I'll say it again. "The hits just keep on coming" Why does it not surprise me that this might be possible with SH3 Commander.
:up: :up: :up:

Kaptan Tommy
11-20-05, 07:44 AM
I hate to say it, but it has never even occured to me to write anything down about my patrols. I sink 'em - or get sunk - and move on.

I try to remember what works and what doesn't, but I just can't get past the idea that I'm playing a game (and LOVING it, of course) and don't want to spend time writing, that would be better spent plotting my next shot (or reading all this cool stuff on this site!). :yep:

ICBM
11-20-05, 12:18 PM
There are attempts underway to make an ingame writable logbook: http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=45164

It apears to be an unfinished feature by the defs, let's hope enough code is there to make it work.

Trav_R
11-20-05, 06:12 PM
The Alt-Tab approach wouldn't do it for me. It would certainly be faster than writing, which would help, but it would still be out of the game. Just my opinion of course, I know plenty of people would appreciate that approach.

Skubber
11-20-05, 06:37 PM
If something particularly interesting or unusual happened during a patrol, I would love to be able to take note of it in a log book. (And have that logbook saved for posterity!)

How could Ubisoft have planned such an in-game feature and not followed through????

Anyway, I guess that is a sort of warped impulse – wanting to look back on simulated logbook entries about these simulated patrols.

But if you step back from it, playing a WWII subsim about German U-boats is warped indeed.

:lost:

Trav_R
11-20-05, 09:47 PM
But if you step back from it, playing a WWII subsim about German U-boats is warped indeed.

I don't think so. What do you think is warped about it? It's not like we're playing because we secretly want to be Nazis, we just want to know what it was like to be part of a huge moment in history. Playing this game is about as close as you can get without actually being there. If it weren't for the fact that you're killing innocent people, and also putting yourself at risk, torpedoing ships would be pretty damn fun in real life, don't ya think? It's a challenge, you have to do a lot of things right over a fairly long period of time in order to land a torpedo on a moving target, and when you do, you get that nice big explosion as a reward. I don't know, simple pleasures I guess. I'll always love booms.

gdogghenrikson
11-20-05, 11:40 PM
But if you step back from it, playing a WWII subsim about German U-boats is warped indeed.


Could you expand on this please

Detritus
11-21-05, 10:03 AM
I don't write anything down, though the (now dead?) idea of mod with moonphases, writeable logbooks etc. would definitely end up in my game. However, I take screenies of each contact I make, plot it's course an all that and then later add them on a blank shot of selected area, say between North Africa and Gibraltar. Add some notes of the ship types and such and print it. Like this I've some idea of more vague areas, like Africa or Middle Atlantic. Planning to do a similar thing about ports and possibly add depth lines to certain key areas laterr on. What the hey, even though I might never need the maps, it's fun just to make them and it also helps in memorizing the routes.

don1reed
11-21-05, 10:17 AM
I fall into the catagory of 'nerd' also, I guess. I keep a three column paper KTB as well. I plot all contacts using a 'home-made' maneuvering board. I use home-made circular sliderules; and, I plot my courses and positions on plotting sheets. ...oh, and I also use the enigma to encrypt all outgoing messages.

...so much for emersion... :)

SteamWake
11-21-05, 11:16 AM
Keep a log ?

Isnt that the radio officers job ? :smug:

SteamWake
11-21-05, 11:17 AM
Keep a log ?

Isnt that the radio officers job ? :smug:

BTW the alt tab thing is a good idea but some folks may have troubles with it. Id recommend testing it first when you have a known good save just in case.