Log in

View Full Version : Real life sub encounter while on a merchant ship


Trav_R
11-15-05, 12:27 PM
The "Armed Forces" thread reminded me of this. I was a merchant marine for a couple years. I wanted to try it out, so I quit college, did it, served on two tankers, and then got back into college. I'm still technically a merchant marine, but since it isn't part of the military I can pretty much come and go as I please. I'd like to sail again someday, but I'm getting off track here.

Anyway, some time around August, 2002 I was working on a medium-sized tanker mainly moving gasoline from refineries in Texas to different ports in Florida. Nice and freakin' hot down in the engine room, where I worked as a wiper. You know the "bilge rat" icon that we all start out with as our avatar? That was me, I was the go-to guy for all the crap dirty jobs. Had to start somewhere.

Once a week we would do a lifeboat drill. We'd all gather up near one of the lifeboats and go over the procedure for lowering and entering the lifeboat, starting the engine and all that. One day we were somewhere southwest of Florida, and we were doing one of our lifeboat drills. We were all hanging out on deck, going over the same thing we always go over, being bored and waiting for it to be over. Naturally, I was enjoying myself as I was at least outside in the sun and catching a nice breeze, and looking out into the sea to see if I could catch a glimpse of a dolphin, or some flying fish or another ship or something.

Then it happened. Directly ahead of us, maybe 50-100 yards ahead of the bow, a submarine came blasting out of the water. Just like you see on TV, like he was showing off. He wasn't casually rising to the surface, he was hauling ass, his bow just came flying out of the water like he was preparing for launch into a low-earth orbit or something. Of course, the lifeboat drill came to a halt as we all gaped at the sub. Once he surfaced, he just kept cruising nonchalantly. No crew appeared on the bridge, at least not that I could see, he motored off pretty quickly.

Wow, that was an awesome thing to see. What was real cool about it is knowing that that sub had probably been tracking us for a good while. He knew exactly where we were at, how fast we were going, and which direction we were going in. I'm guessing he picked us up on passive sonar and just plotted us out on a map (or computer screen) just like we do in this game. Who knows, maybe the captain on my ship knew about it and they were coordinating with the sub to give the sub's crew a little practice or something, but I doubt it. No all the evidence points to that sub's captain just wanting to have a good time and show us who's boss.

I can't imagine being on a merchant ship in WWII, or in any other war when the enemy has submarines. You do your job, every single day like you would any other time, but you know that at any moment, a sub could be out there listening to your screw from miles and miles away, putting X's on a map representing your position, plotting your path, calculating a good point to intercept you, while you are busy painting a pipe on the deck, or wiping up an oil mess, or taking a shower. Man, that takes some balls.

Sometimes when I was working on the lower decks in the engine room, I would put my hand on the bulkhead, imagining the water flowing by just an inch or so away on the other side, and 30 feet below the surface. I'd think for a moment what it would be like to have 500 lbs of explosives detonate on the other side of that bulkhead, and try to imagine how big the resulting hole would be, and how f*cked I would be once that water started rushing through.

CCIP
11-15-05, 03:04 PM
Awesome story. Definitely a sobering experience when you realize how unexpectedly it all can happen. You can only imagine how it would be in wartime, when any minute you could indeed get that "500lb" and the only clue you ever had was 6 inches of periscope showing up for 2-5 seconds a mile away...

Marhkimov
11-15-05, 03:08 PM
A picture to go along with your great story. :up:



So... He was haulin' ass... Like this??
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5291/34b7685ke.jpg

U-104
11-15-05, 04:06 PM
:o :|\ :rock: :up: :)

Trav_R
11-15-05, 04:13 PM
So... He was haulin' ass... Like this??

Yeah, something like that, 'cept his bow was less pointy and less shiny :yep:

Keelbuster
11-15-05, 06:10 PM
Totally wicked tale...

kb

u665
11-16-05, 10:56 AM
I did a "couple" of towed array deployments on frigates in the Royal Navy, one christmas back in 92 we were deployed on the 18th December ( All leave stopped)

At the time the new vanguard class was leaving Faslane and intel reports placed a new type of russian sub in the area to have a listen at its screws, as you all know a tape of a new british nuke would be very valuable to any nation.

we headed off and picked it up just off the coast of liverpool, we tracked the sub for 22 days we on the frigate were at silent watch - had to walk around in our socks, doors and hatches were shut constantly with only access throught the middle of the hatch (the kidney hatch)

anyways we followed it all the way back down the coast line and into the bay of biscay we handed it off to the french.

one night i was doing the morning watch 4-8am, i was in the galley making a brew, i asked a lad by the name of george clough if he wanted a cuppa, "nah ive gotta do engine rounds" was his reply, he was a stoker or a marine engineer as theyre better known, "go on it will only be 10 mins late" i replied

i made his cuppa and we stood talking outside the galley, 4 precise minutes later a massive explosion rocked the boat, flung us both to the deck and we watched in horror as a huge fireball came out of the engine room and into the stern of the ship, immediately the ship started leaning to starboard, george looked into the engine room and the starboard bulkhead was gone and the water was flooding in, there was a fire in the port side of the engine room, the hole was too big to shore up and after we both went down the ladder we quickly came back up it as the engine room had half filled with water, we sealed the hatch and started engine room pumps. the boyancy of sealing the compartment kept the ship afloat and we made it back to port with the help of a tug.

the official word on this and the mod will back it up is that a high pressure air system malfunctioned and caused a spark in the fuel system which in turn caused a massive explosion and blew the starboard engine out of the side of the ship.

the most weird thing was though that the metal on the bulkhead was all folded in and not out. im no expert in forensic but i would have thought the side of the ship would have been hanging out, not in!

quite boring really but thought i would share it with you

silent_otto
11-16-05, 12:17 PM
Does anyone else remember reading about how tankers' crews where the only ones who slept comfortably, without shoes or coat and all that, while regular cargo crews slept ready for quickly abandoning ship...

Seems that tankers' crews (_especially_ gasoline loaded tankers!) knew that if they were torpedoed, there would be no time for no-nothing ... so they slept fine!

I found this one story creepy and beautiful at the same time...

ICBM
11-16-05, 02:50 PM
Many years back while sailing the Atlantic my dad and I spotted a Periscope close by. I presume the Sub was checking us out, cool.

Another non-sub story is where we sailed near Yugoslavia and got fake strafed by fighter aircraft! Those idiots (2 of them) dived staight on top of use and pulled up +-200m above our mast.
I could see directly into the engine exhausts as they used the afterburner and took off. :stare:

My dad was enraged hehe, He almost pulled out his flare gun to shoot at them.

Trav_R
11-16-05, 05:01 PM
u665, so... the Russian sub torpedoed you or what? I would think that would result in some sort of diplomacy.

ICBM: That would be awesome to see a periscope. Man he must have been pretty close to you for you to see the scope.

iambecomelife
11-16-05, 06:52 PM
Does anyone else remember reading about how tankers' crews where the only ones who slept comfortably, without shoes or coat and all that, while regular cargo crews slept ready for quickly abandoning ship...

Seems that tankers' crews (_especially_ gasoline loaded tankers!) knew that if they were torpedoed, there would be no time for no-nothing ... so they slept fine!

I found this one story creepy and beautiful at the same time...

http://uboat.net/allies/ships/photos/br/british_viscount.jpg

Yep. I read the same anecdote but I can't remember what book it was in. I also read an excerpt of an interview with a survivor of the tanker "British Viscount" (sunk by Rosenbaum's U-73 in 1941). He said that the food and accomodations on oil tankers were usually excellent to take everyone's mind off the fear of death. It reminded me of the ancient military tradition of giving doomed soldiers a good meal before they were sent into a hopeless battle.

Same thing for ships loaded with steel or iron ore ; some of them went down in less than a minute. I don't know how they managed to keep people in the Merchant Marine, especially between 1939 and 1942.

supersloth
11-16-05, 08:13 PM
i think thats the thing about subs that intrigue me the most. being able to watch and observe a ship while sitting in the shadows, all the while knowing that the fate of the ship rests in the hands of the sub. meanwhile the ships crew just goes about their business then BOOOM! i can only imagine the terror. guy is hanging out on the deck smoking a cig, and the last thing he see is a trail of bubbles.

u665
11-17-05, 02:08 AM
u665, so... the Russian sub torpedoed you or what? I would think that would result in some sort of diplomacy.

ICBM: That would be awesome to see a periscope. Man he must have been pretty close to you for you to see the scope.


no one knows we were given the reason about the starboard engine

it was just a bit to sureal for the 150 plus sailors on that ship

JohnnyPotPie
11-17-05, 06:35 PM
cool storys fellas :up:

Ishmael
11-18-05, 03:12 AM
My father and grand father were both Able Seamen. My grandfather went to sea in 1900 out of San Francisco on Square-riggers. He had his Sailor's Union of the Pacific card signed by Andrew Ferusuth, the union's founder. My Father went to sea in 1939 and was 2 days out of Pearl on 12/7/41.

As a merchant seaman, he took part in the Attu & Kiska invasions, North Africa, Sicily, Salerno, Anzio, Iwo Jima, Okinawa and the Japanese occupation. Then he got drafted into the Army in 1946 which only goes to show. I am currently working on a book of his experiences entitled,"Tales of the Inadvertant Pacifist".

Trav_R
11-18-05, 04:21 AM
Sounds like your dad was one busy guy.