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Nedlam
11-11-05, 03:57 PM
Not that I've ventured over that way yet but I was looking a the map and I couldn't see the Panama canal. Wasn't that thing completed by 1914?
Serverdaemon
11-11-05, 04:04 PM
The canal was filled in during WWII.
Specifically to keep people like YOU out with your nasty nasty submarines.
:lol:

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Panama Red
11-11-05, 04:26 PM
Serverdaemon :
Having lived in the Panama Canal Zone from 1952-1978, I assume you are joking when you told Nedlam that the Canal was filled in during WWII. :hmm:

It was one of the strongest defended places in US custudy during WWII and it sure was not filled in. :D
CWorth
11-11-05, 04:26 PM
It was not added in to the game the same way the eastern entrances into Scapa Flow were not put in.

http://encarta.msn.com/map_701516386/Scapa_Flow.html

Zoom in on the map to see them
Serverdaemon
11-11-05, 04:49 PM
Serverdaemon :
Having lived in the Panama Canal Zone from 1952-1978, I assume you are joking when you told Nedlam that the Canal was filled in during WWII. :hmm:

It was one of the strongest defended places in US custudy during WWII and it sure was not filled in. :D

Ah see... You lived there too late!

I assure you it was filled in with all the soil dreged up from carving out the gulf of Mexico!
:up:

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Curval
11-11-05, 05:02 PM
Filled in? lol Put the crack pipe down and slowly back away from your computer.

They may have tried to block small parts of the canal, but given the huge pain in the rear to get the canal built in the first place there is NO WAY they would have completly filled it in.
Serverdaemon
11-11-05, 05:10 PM
:rotfl:
kholemann
11-14-05, 03:59 PM
The canal was filled in during WWII.
Specifically to keep people like YOU out with your nasty nasty submarines.
:lol:

S

Yes, only the actual locks were filled with tortilla chips and salsa.

Yea, thats the ticket....

They did it at the start of 1942 knowing it would take that long for the locals to . . .

Right, sure....
JohnnyPotPie
11-15-05, 02:06 AM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
ReM
11-15-05, 05:06 AM
Look to find the Suez Canal, it is not modelled either.
Anyway for a German sub to pass to pass thorugh the Panama canal ot the Suez canal would be quite unrealistic: they should've been modelled though, just like the entrances to the east of Scapa Flow which Prien used....
A missed chance!
Seeadler
11-15-05, 07:07 AM
Also the Kaiser Wilhelm Canal is not modelled. The Imperial Navy in WWI and the Uboots in WWII used this canal to go from Kiel into the North Sea instead of taking the long route around Denmark.
_alphaBeta_
11-15-05, 07:36 AM
Also the Kaiser Wilhelm Canal is not modelled. The Imperial Navy in WWI and the Uboots in WWII used this canal to go from Kiel into the North Sea instead of taking the long route around Denmark.
The rest I could live without, but this would have been nice for obvious reasons. :yep:
Trav_R
11-15-05, 10:30 AM
It certainly would have, I didn't even know about it until now. Being in a type IIA and having to go around Denmark to get to my patrol area means I burn about 35-40% of my fuel just getting there, and that's on ahead slow. Leaves me very little fuel for flanking speeds. I have to give up on a lot of targets because I can't waste fuel chasing them at high speed.
Seeadler
11-15-05, 01:01 PM
It certainly would have, I didn't even know about it until now.
More about the Kiel-Canal (http://www.reverso.net/url/result.asp?directions=65540&templates=0&autotranslate=on&baseurl=http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/kiel.htm&url=http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/kaiser-wilhelm-kanal.htm).
It is today the mostly driven sea channel of the world.
Trav_R
11-15-05, 03:58 PM
Well, now I know a little more about it, although some of the translations were a little unclear.
CWorth
11-15-05, 08:55 PM
Just a thought here...with the absence of the Kiel-Canal I am wondering if this would be able to be modded.Possibly into SH3 Commander or something.

Just for the time you are in Kiel in the Type II Uboats would it be possible to increase the amount of fuel carried by the TypeII to make up for the lack of the canal and the waste of fuel having to go all the way around Denmark.

I know this would be unrealistic but it is a concession I am willing to make to make up for the lack of the canal.

This way we can patrol a little longer as if we went through the canal and not around Denmark.