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Marhkimov
11-03-05, 03:35 PM
This isn't a SH3 topic per se, but spyware does hamper my ability to play the game. This lousy error pop-up crap keeps telling me that "pokapoka79.exe" has caused an error and needs to be closed. I did a search and located the file within 'C:\WINDOWS.' The problem is that I can't delete it; it is always being accessed. Using Ctrl+Alt+Del (task manager), I stop it from running but it immediately starts again. Very annoying... So I did a google search about it, and I learned that it is spyware. I would use my antivirus thing, but it is crap. Expired, out-of-date, useless, whatever... It doesn't work... I tried to update it once, and an endless stream of pop-ups viciously attacked me.
**Frikkin' Spyware... Don't computer *******s have anything better to do than to create this spyware SH*T that screws with other people's computers?!?! B*TCHASSMOTHAF*KERS!!!**
Sorry, I'm pissed. Does anyone know of a free or easy way to get rid of spyware? Maybe something that I could download? And preferably, don't link me up to anything that would give me MORE spyware...
Unlike myself, most of the people on these boards are 'tech junkies,' so hopefully someone can help me out... Thanks.
There are free antispyware programs available. Microsoft has a beta version which is free and is very good. The other well known makes are AdAware by lavasoft and Spybot Search and Destroy. You can easily Google to get the download sites.
I also use SpySweeper by Webroot, a pay program that is fully featured and well supported.
Good luck at getting rid of it. But don't be surprised if you end up reformatting your system. Some of that stuff is very nasty. It is sad to know that the major antivirus programs are insufficient to deal with this. You need a proper antispyware program as well.
Gizzmoe
11-03-05, 03:49 PM
Yeah, download Spybot and Adaware. After you have installed them update both with the latest definition files, then boot Safe Mode and let them scan your harddisk.
wetwarev7
11-03-05, 03:51 PM
You can also try Pest Patrol. That's what we use at work.
I've never run any firewall, antivirus, or antispyware programs except for the standard Windows firewall. Sometimes I get spyware, mainly when my roommates download BS programs, but that's where SpyBot comes in. I'm sure the other ones that K-61 suggested work great too, but SpyBot has always done fine for me. For the ones that it doesn't get, I just look them up on the google and find manual removal instructions. I never have popups for more than an hour or so, before they get zapped.
Oh, one more very important bit of advice for you: get Mozilla Firefox and use it instead of Internet Explorer. IE is the most BS browser around, the only reason it's popular is that it comes with Windows. Firefox is free, go to http://www.mozilla.org and check it out. You'll notice than when running Firefox, if you have spyware, your popups will *still* show up through Internet Explorer, how funny is that. POS crap that Microsoft turns out. Only problem with Firefox is that some very few web pages won't look right in Firefox, and for those just use IE and then go back to Firefox when you're done.
Oh, one more very important bit of advice for you: get Mozilla Firefox and use it instead of Internet Explorer.
that solved 100% of my spyware/adware problems. ie just makes me want to stab myself in the face.
wetwarev7
11-03-05, 04:07 PM
ie just makes me want to stab myself in the face.
OUCH!!! :o
Marhkimov
11-03-05, 04:09 PM
Right now, I'm using the AOL explorer that comes with AIM. It seemed to be working very nicely; for a long time I did not get any unwanted pop-ups, but maybe it is the source of my problem. I'll go ahead and try the mozilla firefox explorer.
Seriously, why do people make this crap?!?!
Valtonen
11-03-05, 04:10 PM
First i´ll use mozilla firefox blocks so much crap thats trying to capture your pc...
Then antispyware programs...
Also I have found that startup guard is very usefull to get rid of every programs that try to copy itself in a windows startup folder.
Check whats in your windows startup, and you may find very unpleasant programs there...
Here´s link to page which has many and more explains about programs that can be in your startup:
www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php?filter=
Panda online software has an online scanner which I find to be very good as well.
The best way to keep a computer spyware clean of course, is to be careful when downloading programs and archive files and try to avoid websites which plant drive-by spyware. IE Spyads is a good program for this, and will add hundreds of websites to your restricted zone for you. I use layered protection - AVG for viruses, Adaware, Spybot, and Panda for spyware that's already there, and spywareblaster and spywareguard to prevent infections in the first place (Spybot also helps with this).
Here is a site with programs to prevent and combat spyware - and many of them are free. I have used my combination of them to keep my computer spyware-clean for at least a year and a half.
http://www.spychecker.com/
Marhkimov
11-03-05, 04:25 PM
ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE THE GREATEST, YOU KNOW THAT? :D
I'm at school right now, using a perfectly clean computer, btw...
So it will be a few hours before I can try any of these programs. But for all the help that I have recieved, I don't know what I would do without you guys. This community is just awesome!!! :up:
As for the reasons spyware is produced - well, it's all about money. The spyware steals your personal and private information (usually internet viewing habits, but also contact information, names, and other really personal stuff sometimes) and sends it back to its server. Often this is done without any knowledge or permission by the 'user' - in court, spyware companies usually claim 'freedom of commercial expression' to get away with whatever they like and it's worked so far. And sometimes, they hijack your browser itself. When this happens, your start page will be reset to some crap, and bookmarks will appear in your favorites folder (usually porn, gambing, or photographic equipment for some reason). There was even a type of spyware about two years ago which accessed porn sites at regular intervals and then quietly deleted them from the browser's history. All of these tactics ensure that certain sites get a larger number of hits, and thus will make more revenue from ads because they can pretend that a lot of people are actually visitng their site (when in fact the logged IP addresses were hijacked and forced to visit, or the user was tricked with phoney bookmarks). Coolwebsearch is the worst.
:nope:
Just be careful out there.
Here is a forum which deals with the subject, and which offers good advice on prevention, and offers free technical support. The last time I was there, which was a long time ago, it was very busy though. :o
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/
Marhkimov
11-03-05, 04:31 PM
As for the reasons spyware is produced - well, it's all about money. The spyware steals your personal and private information (usually internet viewing habits, but also contact information, names, and other really personal stuff sometimes) and sends it back to its server. Often this is done without any knowledge or permission by the 'user' - in court, spyware companies usually claim 'freedom of commercial expression' to get away with whatever they like and it's worked so far. And sometimes, they hijack your browser itself. When this happens, your start page will be reset to some crap, and bookmarks will appear in your favorites folder (usually porn, gambing, or photographic equipment for some reason). There was even a type of spyware about two years ago which accessed porn sites at regular intervals and then quietly deleted them from the browser's history. All of these tactics ensure that certain sites get a larger number of hits, and thus will make more revenue from ads because they can pretend that a lot of people are actually visitng their site (when in fact the logged IP addresses were hijacked and forced to visit, or the user was tricked with phoney bookmarks). Coolwebsearch is the worst.
OMG... You practically described my system... :nope:
gdogghenrikson
11-03-05, 04:32 PM
spybot works good
Twelvefield
11-03-05, 04:44 PM
Spybot's "TeaTimer" function is most useful for blocking spyware on-the-fly, and it keeps your registry intact.
AdAware is superior to Spybot (in my opinion) for getting rid of spyware that gets past TeaTimer.
Using both is way better than using just one or the other, and they both have excellent freeware versions.
I also use AVG antivirus, also free, to get rid of viruses. I most highly reccomend using all three, and I used to be both a MacAffee and a Norton user -- but not any more!
OMG... You practically described my system... :nope:
if you have coolwebsearch, you might as well cash in your chips and reformat. i've tried spybot and the whole lot of them. nothing cleans this crap out. i also don't call it spyware or whatever sugar-coated title they give. ITS A VIRUS! i finally gave up trying to clean my system and just reformat. first sign of this crap - reformat.
don't do that anymore with firefox. yes, the internet the way it used to be...
Marhkimov
11-03-05, 05:22 PM
oh, well, I don't have the coolwebsearch thing... phew... In general, my computer just downloads a ton of crap.
But I have seen something else in my system similar to it though. I don't remember what it was called, but it was a web search thing...
Kpt. Lehmann
11-03-05, 05:28 PM
Additionally, my advice is to use more than one spyware killer.
One may catch what the other doesn't.
IMHO, AdAware is a bit slow...but is great and thorough. Take the time to use it and keep its definition files updated.
The Old Man
11-03-05, 06:19 PM
If you can reboot in safe mode then you can delete it.
Roy
andy_311
11-03-05, 06:27 PM
Yeah, download Spybot and Adaware. After you have installed them update both with the latest definition files, then boot Safe Mode and let them scan your harddisk.
add to that spywere blaster the link is in spybot update it and enable it you shold be sorted
I notice that a lot of people use free programs. I wonder how effective they are? I'd rather pay up front for a program that blocks this stuff live rather than trying to delete it after it has already infected my computer.
I use Webroot Spy Sweeper on most of my systems and the free Microsoft one on one system. So far I seem to be doing fine, not seeing pop-ups or unwanted sites. It's been a while since I last used those other free ones, so maybe they've improved in the meantime. I just recall that at the time they weren't blocking the stuff before it got in and so I chose to pay for a full version which received regular updates, both for definitin files and program upgrades.
Elder-Pirate
11-03-05, 09:51 PM
I notice that a lot of people use free programs. I wonder how effective they are? I'd rather pay up front for a program that blocks this stuff live rather than trying to delete it after it has already infected my computer.
And now you know how these companies make a buck. :yep:
I am an old "Norton" & "McAffe" user and had some severe problems with both of them and they were paid programs at that.
Now I run "AVG free", "SpywareBlaster","Ad-Aware", " Registery Mechanic" ( last one is a paid program ) and I don't believe since I started really useing a computer ( Win-95 ) has it ever been so clean and free from these Jerks who gum up the internet with Spyware.
Our internet laws really need to be changed and I'm for hitting them below the belt and hit em' again when their down :dead: ( spyware producers ). :hulk:
Oh well thats another story. :-?
Anyway I find a lot of the free stuff works just fine. :up:
Twelvefield
11-04-05, 02:28 AM
As things now stand, the freeware anti-malware programs beat the payware ones, for the most part, in my estimation.
As for getting rid of CoolWebSearch, that is one very hard to eradicate, but not impossible. As well, I have found that SpyBot's TeaTimer will at least block a downloaded CoolWebSearch from functioning, provided that you had TeaTimer going on a system that wasn't infected with it in the first place.
Marhkimov
11-04-05, 02:36 AM
In case you guys want to hear about what happened to my computer...
It runs smoother than ever! No pop ups, no nothing, and so far I've only tried spybot. A bunch of malwares got killed by it. Good tips from everyone, thanks a bunch! :up:
I think I can reinstall SH3 now... and return to the magical land of modders-ville.
Gizzmoe
11-04-05, 02:42 AM
:up:
You should also use Adaware, it sometimes finds Spyware that Spybot doesn´t (and vice versa).
I notice that a lot of people use free programs. I wonder how effective they are? I'd rather pay up front for a program that blocks this stuff live rather than trying to delete it after it has already infected my computer.
I use Webroot Spy Sweeper on most of my systems and the free Microsoft one on one system. So far I seem to be doing fine, not seeing pop-ups or unwanted sites. It's been a while since I last used those other free ones, so maybe they've improved in the meantime. I just recall that at the time they weren't blocking the stuff before it got in and so I chose to pay for a full version which received regular updates, both for definitin files and program upgrades.
Trust me, freeware programs are better than any pay program just because they work just as well if not better and cost nothing. I use AVG free edition for my anti-virus duties and it never misses a virus and always eliminates it. Also it has a built in updater which tells you when you're out of date and this thing updates like a Linux prog; that is to say weekly.
I'm kind of surprised that no one here has said they use Zone Alarm Firewall. It's also free, very effective, allows you to choose which programs you wish to allow internet access and server priviledges and it also informs you when someone tries to access your computer from outside (I was spooked how often this happened when I first installed this puppy). And for that guy who said he has never used anything but the windows native firewall: ARE YOU CRAZY! Its no better than IE. Turn it off and get a real firewall (like Zone Alarm).
I also agree with the assertion that you should double up on your anti-spyware progs. BUt in my experience having a solid firewall and anti-virus prog in conjunction with Firefox will lead to almost neverhaving to need an anti-spyware prog.
kanderstag
11-04-05, 04:02 AM
So to condense the suggestions and establish priority:
Download and install AVG antivirus. Update it and then allow it to do a full system scan. http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10342876.html?tag=lst-0-2
Download and install ZoneAlarm. http://www.download.com/ZoneAlarm/3000-10435_4-10434530.html?tag=lst-0-2
Download and install Spybot. Run it. http://www.download.com/Spybot-Search-Destroy/3000-8022_4-10401314.html?tag=lst-0-1
Download and install CCleaner. Run it and clean out all the crap. Also check for issues (a selection). http://www.download.com/CCleaner/3000-2144_4-10454028.html?tag=lst-0-1
Download and install SpywareBlaster. Enable all protection. http://www.download.com/SpywareBlaster/3000-8022_4-10396039.html?tag=lst-0-1
This is all freeware. SpywareBlaster will make sure no spyware gets on puter so you don't have to run Spybot again. But you need to make sure you've got a clean system to protect, hence the order above.
Hi All,
Let me throw in a real horror-story here: A friend of mine mentioned that her computer had started to display all kinds of annoying pop-ups, and I promised to try to help her out. 'Try' proved to be the right word.. I'm not exactly a computer novice (25+ years in the business), so I figured that the combination of AdAware, Spybot, MS-Antispy and one more + 2 kinds of anti-virus (AVG was one) would do the trick - WRONG!
What I found was 500+ spyware components + 33 different viruses. But that was not the worst thing: When I had managed to clean out the viruses, within 2 minutes a new one appeared and got caught by AVG. Examining the network connections thru a Command Prompt, I found 2 strange VPN adapters with some very strange IP adresses - they looked more like IPX node adresses. These were direct connections to some virus distribution points; directly thru the firewall and any scanner my friends ISP might have set up!
At that point I gave up, and told her to kiss her hard disk goodbye... Format, re-install...AND introduce non-administrator accounts for her and her 2 teenage kids, who probably was (unwittingly!!) responsible for the mess! Still, I think it's probably only a matter of time before she gets hit again - How can you *REALLY* explain this rule to ordinary people:
Don't walk down the dark alleys on the Internet - when most of them are brightly lit!
BRGDS
Sven
Twelvefield
11-04-05, 05:06 AM
On the topic of firewalls, I use the incredibly powerful Alpha Shield. It's a hardware firewall, so it cost $100 -- definitely not freeware. But it's super-easy to use and configure, it protects networks, and it's portable. That and you can easily monitor your Net connections and shut things down in an instant if you feel vulnerable.
Well I can't argue with happy users, but I just can't help but be somewhat sceptical. I wonder how the companies that give us these free programs can afford to do so. I'm getting near the end of my year's subscription to my current paid antispyware program. I'd rather not buy again if the free ones are good enough.
In addition to running my protective programs I also forbid my kids from going on sites that offer "free" music and games. My brother's kids go on all of those sites and every time I go over for a visit I have to help them get rid of viruses and spyware. All I can do is give them a warning, but like you say, if they choose to walk down those dark alleys...
Gizzmoe
11-04-05, 04:15 PM
Well I can't argue with happy users, but I just can't help but be somewhat sceptical. I wonder how the companies that give us these free programs can afford to do so. I'm getting near the end of my year's subscription to my current paid antispyware program. I'd rather not buy again if the free ones are good enough.
The free ones are not just "good enough", they are excellent! :) Spybot is donation-ware and free for private and commercial use, Ad-Aware is free for personal use only. I also use a free firewall (Kerio) and free antivirus (Avast).
Sad to say, it is getting to the point where the big companies are driving away paying customers into the arms of the freeware publishers. I am a typical home user, who over the years has added computers one at a time to a home network. It has gotten to the point now with the bigger software companies like Symantec that I can no longer afford to be a customer. If I want Norton Utilities on five machines, I have to buy five copies at about $100 Canadian apiece. Then I have to buy five copies of their Firewall. It is now at the point where I have to spend almost $1,000 a year to protect my computers if I buy full suites of their software. Clearly this is no longer viable for me.
If some benevolent company like AVG is willing to give me a free program that is also as effective as a full pay program, then I am not going to fork out hundreds of dollars. I wouldn't mind paying if they would grant me a multiuse license for a reduced price for a home user, but now they have priced themselves out of my reach.
Col7777
11-04-05, 05:54 PM
Well I just installed all the stuff recommended so I'm hoping I'm protected.
One thing though, that Zone Alarm keeps popping up with messages telling me I'm being attacked and some program or file is trying to access explorer, I wasn't connected to the Net at the time so what's that all about?
JBClark
11-04-05, 06:13 PM
Well I just installed all the stuff recommended so I'm hoping I'm protected.
Yeah, well that's what everyone thought about rubbers. :doh:
I orginally posted this for my gaming clan but it might help out.
Most people know what Anti-Virus software is, but alot don't know what a firewall is or does and what spyware is. This is a informational post so if you know about all this, don't worry about reading it.
First of all a firewall. When you're connected to the internet, especially broadband, your computer is connecting through several ports or "roads" that are open and vulnurable to attack. Just surfing the internet you might have 8 or more ports open. A hacker can then gain access to your computer and plany a virus, a keystroke logger or possible use your computer to search for other computers to hack into. In short, they can do anything they want. A firewall not only stops hackers from coming in, it makes your computer invisible. There are two types of firewalls, hardware and software. A hardware firewall is typically in a router. So if you have a home network, you probably have a good firewall. The second type of Firewall is a software firewall. Several different software firewalls are out there, I prefer ZoneAlarm which is free. The nice thing about having a software firewall is that it not only stops traffic from coming IN you don't want, it things from going OUT unless you want them too. Wondering how secure you are? Go to
http://www.grc.com
Click on ShieldsUp. Scroll down and find "ShieldsUp" again click then click "proceed". You might get a windows security prompt just click yes, if not move to next step. There is a grey bar the says probe my ports. Click on that and see what happens. You should be running in stealth on most ports and maybe have one or two closed IF you're running a firewall. If you don't have a firewall you will have open ports. So if you need a firewall go to
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en&lid=dbtopnav_zass
Download ZoneAlarm for free. Install it and you can take the built in tutorial if you'd like. Bottom line you MUST have some sort of firewall running, or risk being hacked.
On Spyware. Spyware gets on to your system by you surfing the internet and installing various software. Kazaa, Bonzai Buddy, weatherbug are all examples of Spyware. From Techtarget.com:
"In general, spyware is any technology that aids in gathering information about a person or organization without their knowledge. On the Internet, spyware is programming that is put in someone's computer to secretly gather information about the user and relay it to advertisers or other interested parties. Spyware can get in a computer as a software virus or as the result of installing a new program. Data collecting programs that are installed with the user's knowledge are not, properly speaking, spyware, if the user fully understands what data is being collected and with whom it is being shared."
In a word, spyware is bad for privacy and will actually slow down your machine and internet connection. A great free program called Ad-Aware can be obtained from:
http://www.lavasoft.de/
Run this once or twice a week. You'll be suprised the first time you run it. **Warning if you do Peer to Peer (p2p) files sharing like Kazaa or Morpheous, Ad-Aware will get rid of it. Just re-install afterwards. If you insist onusing Kazaa, use KazaaLite.
Lastly is Anti-Virus software. You have to keep you virus defintions up to date. I personally use a free program called AVG which can be downloaded at:
http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php
I like AVG because it's not as much as a memory hog as Norton or McAfee. Make sure that whatever virus software you choose, you schedule a scan every day and keep the virus definitions up to date. I also hit a couple of other sites a few times a week before I go to bed. These are free on-line Virus scanning.
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
http://www.pandasoftware.com
For the above, click on ActiveScan on the bottom left
One more tip, defrag your hard drive at least once a month. In Windows XP got to Start-->All Programs-->Accesories-->System Tools--> Disk defragmenter.
So in short you can stay secure on the internet for free. Always realize no machine is completely un-hackable. If someone REALLY want to hack into your system it can be done. The whole idea though is, hackers will move past your machine and on the machines without security.
Hope it helps post if you have any questions. This has been a public service announcement from:
Rabyn
Excellent advice. I ran the security tests and scored a very high score, almost perfect. My systems run behind a router and also use Norton Internet Security. That will change once the current subscriptions run out, as I don't think I will be buying five copies of that program.
Gizzmoe
11-05-05, 01:10 AM
One thing though, that Zone Alarm keeps popping up with messages telling me I'm being attacked and some program or file is trying to access explorer, I wasn't connected to the Net at the time so what's that all about?
What´s the exact message?
One thing though, that Zone Alarm keeps popping up with messages telling me I'm being attacked and some program or file is trying to access explorer, I wasn't connected to the Net at the time so what's that all about?
What´s the exact message?
Question is were you really unhooked? Maybe it was an internal program trying to access information so it can gather it and restransmit it to the proprieter.
The Avon Lady
11-07-05, 03:55 AM
Any PC that was under my control hasn't seen a virus since about 1993.
Spend the money for good AV software and a hardware or software firewall and run a quality spyware cleaner once a week and you should be OK, on condition that you don't open suspicious emails or visit shady sites.
Works for me! :yep:
IRONxMortlock
11-07-05, 06:38 AM
Wow, that's wealth of info in this thread.
Let me add one more very nice peice of software to the list and that is Kerio's firewall. This thing is great.
http://www.kerio.com/kerio.html
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Shery (http://www.girlcamfriend.com/cam/Shery/)
For reviews and free trials of anti-spyware programs go to:
http://www.spyware-reviews.com/
It's a very neat site, you will see at a glance what the best program is. :up: :up:
When you want to upgrade your trial version to the fullversion it will cost around $29, but ofcourse free serials and cracks are all over the internet....
kholemann
11-14-05, 03:26 PM
As an IT person that deals with this every day, my favorite is actually X-Cleaner.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download3034.html
It can run from the web but I like to save it on my hard drive and not have to do an install. The freeware version can really zap just about everything.
The key to making this or any other spyware cleaner work is knowing what exe files that are spyware are running and then to stop them from running by using procexp.exe:
http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.html
-my 2 cents
Herr Karl
11-14-05, 03:41 PM
OMG... You practically described my system... :nope:
if you have coolwebsearch, you might as well cash in your chips and reformat. i've tried spybot and the whole lot of them. nothing cleans this crap out. i also don't call it spyware or whatever sugar-coated title they give. ITS A VIRUS! i finally gave up trying to clean my system and just reformat. first sign of this crap - reformat.
don't do that anymore with firefox. yes, the internet the way it used to be...
CWShredder works for (Un)coolweb....just google it...
Herr Karl
11-14-05, 05:09 PM
Well I just installed all the stuff recommended so I'm hoping I'm protected.
One thing though, that Zone Alarm keeps popping up with messages telling me I'm being attacked and some program or file is trying to access explorer, I wasn't connected to the Net at the time so what's that all about?
I have Zone Alarm also...turn off the notifications...those are port probes which are on-going, especially if you are high-speed and always connected...Zone Alarm has blocked over 36,000 attempts for me since I installed it 6 months ago...I dropped Norton when I purchased SHIII, because Norton is a resource hog and an antiquated program in my opinion... :sunny:
Wulfmann
11-14-05, 07:32 PM
I also went AVG and it has been super. I have had many people follow and they are also very happy.
Because the free version can only be for non-commercial and for one un-networked PC this great protection prompts many to ge the pay version for their business. I know my daughter recommended it and her office has bought the commercial one. So, it has a benifit to GriSoft (AVG).
I am getting SpyBot now on the recomendations here to add to AVG.
I also endorse highly Firefox, what I differrent world than IE, a much better one!
Wulfmann
Iv been clean for 7 years now due to the following:
1) I use a router. IE the router is located on the internet - not my PC.
This ensures that if something is to get in, I need to install it.
2) I use a updated antivrus software.
3) I never ever install software I dont trust and I never trust attachments in mails.
I run no firewall - the router negates it.
Herr Karl
11-15-05, 03:18 AM
Iv been clean for 7 years now due to the following:
1) I use a router. IE the router is located on the internet - not my PC.
This ensures that if something is to get in, I need to install it.
2) I use a updated antivrus software.
3) I never ever install software I dont trust and I never trust attachments in mails.
I run no firewall - the router negates it.
I use both...hardware/software firewall....router(linksys)/zone alarm... :up:
Col7777
11-15-05, 04:15 AM
Herr Karl,
Thanks for the advice earlier about the port calls on my PC, I have turned off the notifications now. :up:
I use the Spywarestormer, detects everything. But It's better to have more than one program to keep your PC clean. The Spyware that you- marhkimov - get, also infected my pc a few months ago.
kiwi_2005
11-15-05, 07:08 AM
Norton is a resource hog and an antiquated program in my opinion...
Yes indeed. Ive never had an attack for years. I fix computers here in my hometown for people and find alot get attacked with the hijacker - where it overtakes your browser. I tell them stop visiting bloody porn sites and you wont get them, they can't deny it cos there start menu is also taken over with porn links :rotfl: They are so embaressed but they dont know what to do and have no choice but to get a tech to come fix. Yeah and never open attachments unless you know who the sender is.
But my system runs off a server, my main computer is for the internet and gaming the server is just standalone and has Black Ice Pro for a firewall and Avasti Pro as antivirus i always update.
kiwi_2005
11-15-05, 08:26 AM
K-61
thats one very cool banner you got. :up:
I personally like McAfee.. just personal choice. For Anti-spyware I use MS product.. it seems to integrate so well into the Windows environment.. who would a thought eh?
But there is something that also will help Windows users maybe as much as the other products mentioned.. DO THE CRITICAL UPDATES for Windows!! these are always patches to fix security issues.. and could possibly save you hours of re-install time! :D
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