View Full Version : Drive home or Teleport?
Skubber
10-26-05, 10:15 AM
Do you usually navigate your boat all the way back to port, avoiding warships, enemy planes, possibly even mines, while keeping an eye on the fuel guage, listening to the same tired records, and sneaking in to peek at Karl's latest pin-up?
Or do you zap right home as soon as torpedoes are spent, via the amazingly futuristic particle disruptor/reassember device?
(Not sure exactly where the PD/RD is located. Somewhere behind the head, I think. It was invented at the end of '38, or so it is rumored. Apparently High Command wanted to particle disrupt the entire city of London and reassemble it somewhere in Siberia, but for some reason the device only seems to work on U-boats...)
Kpt. Lehmann
10-26-05, 10:26 AM
As a 1x Time Compression sailor... not driving back to base feels too much like cheating to me. :roll:
Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense
10-26-05, 10:29 AM
i try to... if i have enough fuel remaining, i usually do...
and this is one thing that should be factored in when renown is handed out at the end of a patrol... those Captains that navigate back should get additional renown...
... and the prettiest of the pretty nurses :yep:
--Mike
wetwarev7
10-26-05, 10:30 AM
As a 1x Time Compression sailor... not driving back to base feels too much like cheating to me. :roll:
I don't know how you do it. I'm too impatient to go out on patrol without TC, I don't see how you can go BACK to base at 1x.
It's allways 1024x for me in friendly waters, going from or back to base.
Captains that navigate back do get additional renown, 100 points worth.
Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense
10-26-05, 10:49 AM
they should get more...
(i never noticed this... i'm gonna fast time it back after all mission objectiives are completed and see if there's a slot for navigating back)
and still there's the matter of those nurses...
--Mike
Kpt. Lehmann
10-26-05, 11:02 AM
they should get more...
(i never noticed this... i'm gonna fast time it back after all mission objectiives are completed and see if there's a slot for navigating back)
and still there's the matter of those nurses...
--Mike
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: I'll trade renown for pretty FEMALE nurses any day! (Just thought I should be specific lol)
Also, renown is easily moddable... I tend to actually reduce it though. I don't like it when you get rewards so quickly they become meaningless.
At the moment I am heavily modifying the files in my game and incorporating more than 100 changes... I am almost finished.
I do use TC for mod stability testing.
I am hoping to tie up my little list of broken things and sail again late November.
Lol... I'm getting tired of fixing stuff. Once I am sure everything works right and doesn't cause CTD's... off I go into the sunset.
Doing 1x TC compression patrols gives you plenty of time to do stuff around the house, reading, and research.
Redfoot
10-26-05, 11:16 AM
I hate teleporting, its a dumb feature if you ask me. You can sail a IIA boat past mines, subfences and roughly 20 destroyers into Loch Ewe and sink 360000 tons worth of gunship (the nelson) and simply hit escape and teleport out.. way too cheatey if you ask me :P
Sailor Steve
10-26-05, 11:43 AM
I don't have the temperament for x1 gaming; I have my TC bumped up to x4096, but I still sail the boat back to the base. I don't like teleporting either.
However, if you're rudder's broken and you're pointed toward Jolly Olde England, well...
Kissaki
10-26-05, 02:22 PM
I hate teleporting, its a dumb feature if you ask me. You can sail a IIA boat past mines, subfences and roughly 20 destroyers into Loch Ewe and sink 360000 tons worth of gunship (the nelson) and simply hit escape and teleport out.. way too cheatey if you ask me :P
Playing SH3 unpatched you can hit esc and teleport even when in dire straits. I remember receiving a hammering over at Scapa Flow, I was stuck at the bottom with moderate to heavy flooding and more DCs on the way. I knew I was a goner, and hit esc in frustration. My intention was to quit, but I was surprised to see that even then I was able to teleport. Well, I had to in order to quit anyway, and don't you think they gave me a shiny Iron Cross 2nd class and a sack of renown as well!
Twitchy
10-26-05, 02:38 PM
YAR! I've never been home, the sea, tis me home. I steal me gas from othar ships with ar bucket, ar rubber tube, and ar good ol' roll of mentos. I fashion arr prisoners inta' torpeders and use arr rations in that thar deck gun. YARR. :arrgh!:
Martin1813
10-26-05, 03:26 PM
Always back to home.
my total tonnage increases substentially :hmm:
von Buelow
10-26-05, 03:50 PM
I always TC back home... just one of my rules...
gas is never a problem... 30% I think is the lowest I've ever gotten...
I'm always empty on eels and usually empty of deck/flak ammo
and I usually do my grid search to keep my boss happy, unless it's just way out of the way (when I'll just go hunting)
Hartmann
10-26-05, 04:17 PM
Always i return to home sailing, and using tc . i dont want stay playing a career for two months with 1x.
Returning to home means that your survive the patrol, and you still alive to go out again.
survive a complete patrol in the later years is a real challenge. :up:
Redbear
10-26-05, 04:29 PM
I always navigate all the way back, right up to docking at the pier with the band, nurses, etc. I do use TC until I am close to port, but then I finish at 1X to see the ships the Harbor Traffic mod added.
Sulikate
10-26-05, 06:42 PM
It really depends on my mood. If the patrol was eventfull, and I sunk a great amont of tonnage, I sail all the way back. But if I sank two small merchants, I'd rather teleport, and try to made the next patrol better :yep:
Skubber
10-26-05, 06:47 PM
YAR! I've never been home, the sea, tis me home. I steal me gas from othar ships with ar bucket, ar rubber tube, and ar good ol' roll of mentos. I fashion arr prisoners inta' torpeders and use arr rations in that thar deck gun. YARR. :arrgh!:
I knew there had to be a couple of you out there.
Sub lost at sea with all hands.
Yeah, right. :up:
ironkross
10-26-05, 08:01 PM
I navigate back, using some TC but I don't set it too high b/c I'm coming out of TC at intervals to make sonar checks if I'm running on the surface. Fuel is almost never a reason to tele back, as I always keep a check on my gauges. Once my stupid navigator told me we had plenty of fuel to return on and we made it to the entrance to Wilemshaven where we ran out of fuel. :damn:
I don't think there should be a bonus for returning to base but there should be a penalty or cost in renown if you get your boat stranded somewhere.
ironkross
10-26-05, 08:06 PM
As a 1x Time Compression sailor... not driving back to base feels too much like cheating to me. :roll:
I don't know how you do it. I'm too impatient to go out on patrol without TC, I don't see how you can go BACK to base at 1x.
It's allways 1024x for me in friendly waters, going from or back to base.
I'm reading Iron Coffins and the "friendly waters" around Brest are where his uboat kept getting jumped by British bombers waiting for those returning from patrol.
FERdeBOER
10-26-05, 08:13 PM
I return to home, of course using TC.
The fuel for me is a problem. I try to arrive to the patrol area as soon as I can. I cross Calais at flank speed if I can go surfaced (at night)... so my patrols usually are at 1/3 or low speed, mixing with submerged runs for being able to endure enought the patrol and have fuel for the returning (which is not as fast as the go).
F course all these probles are solved for me when departing from France :up:
zombiewolf
10-26-05, 08:18 PM
:|\ I am a teleporter my lil Canoe runs outta gas,
gonna get me one of them George dub ya's.
a nukler sub,no gas or snorkel needed :arrgh!:
R D R R
Ducimus
10-26-05, 08:43 PM
I always conserve fuel and usually patrol at "ahead slow" saving fuel for the flank speed chases, i always plan for the return trip home, and i USED to do the return trip home, usually at "ahead standard"
However, 100 renown to me just isnt worth the real life time it often takes me to get to port. Ive thought about adjusting that reward upwards, but Meh, its like i get enough "Free renown" for just going to my patrol grid for 24 hours as it is already.
I have my TC bumped up to x4096
I usually TC home after the patrol and torpedps spent but sometimes use 1x whenheavy traffic is expected. Sailing at 1x seems silly to me. Like pretending realism when there really isnt any.
BTW how do u bump up to 4096 TC? Change a cfg somewhere. Does it work?
andy_311
10-27-05, 05:02 AM
I too always sail home and dont hit the esc until am in a subpen the only time i will hit the teleport is if my sub is totally battered and hull integrity is below 10%percent.
I had my hull down to 2% once and still managed to sail across the Atlantic back home to St. Nazarie. :rock:
iceflatline
10-27-05, 09:06 AM
I don't go home until torpedoes and flak ammo is spent. Then I time compress, usually at =/< 256x.
I love bring the boat into the harbor and docking in real time. I never get tired of seeing all those people waiving a me from the docks. It's one of my favorite aspects of the game!
Sailor Steve
10-27-05, 12:17 PM
I have my TC bumped up to x4096
I usually TC home after the patrol and torpedps spent but sometimes use 1x whenheavy traffic is expected. Sailing at 1x seems silly to me. Like pretending realism when there really isnt any.
BTW how do u bump up to 4096 TC? Change a cfg somewhere. Does it work?
Data/Cfg/Main. You can change the allowed compression speeds for pretty much anything there. When I get a "Ship Spotted" my TC drops to 1x. When I'm in combat or near shore I set it at 32x.
Even though I have my TC set to 4096 max I usually don't go above 2048, as it gets real jumpy at that setting.
Cpt.Thorne
10-27-05, 01:20 PM
Always sail home!
If I come back during night time I shoot few starshells to light up the party :sunny:
Wolfram
10-27-05, 04:06 PM
I had my hull down to 2% once and still managed to sail across the Atlantic back home to St. Nazarie. :rock:
I gotta know did you ever dive with all that damage or just scoot home on the surface?
either way nice job mister
:arrgh!:
I don't play "dead is dead." And the first time I tried to dive with that much damage I was crushed at 15 meters :hulk:. So the second time I tried I scooted home on the surface.
I always sail home unless our fuel tank, rudders, or something else criticly important is broken. For some reason my crew won't let me use all their sheets to make a sail :nope:
Wulfmann
10-28-05, 10:03 PM
I play at 100% so I have to go all the way back.
I did not know it was not an option until I lost both rudders once and went back and forth so I could get past the Orkneys and I got to the coast of Norway but when I tried to end the mission it said my choice was to abandon the career or continue. I ended the career, no way to maneuver!
I do TC at 2048.
Wulfmann
Cdre Gibs
10-28-05, 10:50 PM
Same, 100% so have to sail back. Never been an issue. TC it to the 25Km mark from base hit Esc.
mr chris
11-09-07, 02:20 PM
:oWoah there horsey for a moment there i thought The Gibs was back.:o
(How did this thread end up on the top page when i last post was over a year ago?)
:oWoah there horsey for a moment there i thought The Gibs was back.:o
(How did this thread end up on the top page when i last post was over a year ago?)
A. Someone voted
Or
B. Someone posted
Simple. ;)
Iron Budokan
11-09-07, 02:36 PM
Navigate.
billclifton
11-09-07, 02:51 PM
to 25 km then esc.
Jimbuna
11-09-07, 03:01 PM
:oWoah there horsey for a moment there i thought The Gibs was back.:o
(How did this thread end up on the top page when i last post was over a year ago?)
A. Someone voted
Or
B. Someone posted
Simple. ;)
Classic :rotfl:
............and I aint even voted Chris http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img265/4009/shockedyi3.gif :damn:
Must be like.... http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/img110/512/deadhorse2tm8.gif
mr chris
11-09-07, 03:15 PM
:oWoah there horsey for a moment there i thought The Gibs was back.:o
(How did this thread end up on the top page when i last post was over a year ago?)
A. Someone voted
Or
B. Someone posted
Simple. ;)
Classic :rotfl:
............and I aint even voted Chris http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img265/4009/shockedyi3.gif :damn:
Must be like.... http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/img110/512/deadhorse2tm8.gif
:oops: Im blaming the long days and lack of sleep.
Or should i blame the Beer?? :-?
:oWoah there horsey for a moment there i thought The Gibs was back.:o
(How did this thread end up on the top page when i last post was over a year ago?)
A. Someone voted
Or
B. Someone posted
Simple. ;)
Classic :rotfl:
............and I aint even voted Chris http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img265/4009/shockedyi3.gif :damn:
Must be like.... http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/img110/512/deadhorse2tm8.gif
:oops: Im blaming the long days and lack of sleep.
Or should i blame the Beer?? :-?
Lovely beer :D
http://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/a1110.gif http://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/b87.gif
I navigate back to where I can see the lighthouses. I used to park in the same berth that I began, but that led to problems with my tonnage being 0 and my ships sunk being 0, occasionally.
Kipparikalle
11-09-07, 04:58 PM
Depents on mood.
floundericiousWA
11-09-07, 05:30 PM
YAR! I've never been home, the sea, tis me home. I steal me gas from othar ships with ar bucket, ar rubber tube, and ar good ol' roll of mentos. I fashion arr prisoners inta' torpeders and use arr rations in that thar deck gun. YARR. :arrgh!:
I knew there had to be a couple of you out there.
Sub lost at sea with all hands.
Yeah, right. :up:
...more like: realism 10% :rotfl: :up:
I always navigate all the way back, right up to docking at the pier with the band, nurses, etc. I do use TC until I am close to port, but then I finish at 1X to see the ships the Harbor Traffic mod added.
First few times I did that always ending up crashing the boat in dock. Now I always navigate back then hit dock at x
edit: If I run out of fuel I retire commander in disgrace...Happened only once..
Hartmann
11-09-07, 07:05 PM
Also i modded my renown, 1000 to the grid and 1000 return to home.
Perhaps too renown but i think that this system, buy things using points , its not good for experienced skippers.
I usually "teleport", but it's not teleporting as far as I'm concerned, it's just omitting the tedious visual representation of the journey home. I didn't see it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
I'm slowly working my realism towards hardcoreness though and the journey home is the very least worrying thing on the list.
Torplexed
11-09-07, 10:41 PM
I usually sail all the way back. A big part of the challenge of being a U-Boat captain late in the war wasn't just surviving the escorts. It was running under the ever grimmer air gauntlet over the Bay of Biscay in both directions. If you just teleport back to port you're cheating half that equation.
Goin' back the way you came...its an adventure on its own! SO keep yer, eye on the Fuel Arghh!:arrgh!:
Sailor Steve
11-10-07, 11:42 AM
First few times I did that always ending up crashing the boat in dock. Now I always navigate back then hit dock at x
That's more than fair. If you're close enough to "dock at x" then you're close enough for it to be real.
As for the actual docking, I try to obey (my own) harbor traffic rules: never more than 5 knots when inside the breakwater and never more than 1 knot when approaching or leaving the pier itself.
Capt. Shark Bait
11-10-07, 01:09 PM
gotta navigate:ping: . just ain't right to teleport. just last night, or was it morning:-? , i pulled up along side Bessel at Vigo to resupply. ran in submerged a bit of the way, was still light out, with 1m beneath the keel at one point
Packerton
11-12-07, 01:25 PM
I have no choice but to sail back. 100% Realism.
It adds to the experience.
SmokinTep
11-13-07, 07:10 AM
I always try and navigate back to port. Something about returning to the dock after a great patrol...........:up:
SinkingFeeling
11-13-07, 07:33 PM
As for the actual docking, I try to obey (my own) harbor traffic rules: never more than 5 knots when inside the breakwater and never more than 1 knot when approaching or leaving the pier itself.
That's better than me. I usually show off by coming in at 16 knots, before pulling up in the dock with a full emergency back crash stop. Only last night it turned into a full emergency back crash. Anyone know where I can pick up a new front end for a Type VIIB? This one is a bit dented :)
-SWCowboy.
11-13-07, 08:40 PM
It depends on my torpedo situation most of the time. If I don't have the torpedoes to defend myself with I'll teleport back just so I can reap havoc again going back out. :cool:
sasquatch
11-13-07, 08:46 PM
I always navigate back home. I like the extra renown. Just started my first career on 65% Realism. Making it back to the port adds to the overall experience. As a commander its your personal duty to get your men back to their wives and children. Besides, you never know when some crazy DD ends up intercepting you along the way (it happens to me almost 20% of the time).
Torplexed
11-13-07, 08:52 PM
I guess I always think of the teleport option in the context of the captain of the doomed Bismarck.
"British planes have jammed our rudders and we're circling helplessly sir!"
"Hit the flipping RTB button. Didn't they teach you anything at the Naval Academy?" :know:
floundericiousWA
11-14-07, 12:53 AM
[quote=STEED][quote=mr chris]
Must be like.... http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/img110/512/deadhorse2tm8.gif
Yikes!
I've heard of beating a dead horse...but why do you keep whacking his nuts!?!:dead:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :doh:
Jimbuna
11-14-07, 06:32 AM
[quote=STEED][quote=mr chris]
Must be like.... http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/img110/512/deadhorse2tm8.gif
Yikes!
I've heard of beating a dead horse...but why do you keep whacking his nuts!?!:dead:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :doh:
Only way to find out if they're actually dead or just asleep ;)
Sailor Steve
11-15-07, 06:50 PM
As for the actual docking, I try to obey (my own) harbor traffic rules: never more than 5 knots when inside the breakwater and never more than 1 knot when approaching or leaving the pier itself.
That's better than me. I usually show off by coming in at 16 knots, before pulling up in the dock with a full emergency back crash stop. Only last night it turned into a full emergency back crash. Anyone know where I can pick up a new front end for a Type VIIB? This one is a bit dented :)
:rotfl:
I've read more than one post by kaleuns who rush in at flank speed, hit the wrong button and kill their entire crew, including themselves. Sometimes they'll ask the question "Does this count as Dead Is Dead?"
Reventlow
11-15-07, 07:52 PM
Well, I have only completed three patrols but I have navigated all the way back to port each time. I do use the TC but I don't usually raise it above 256.
Stealth Hunter
11-15-07, 11:25 PM
Navigate.
I have no idea in hell of a teleporter mod.
Spin Doctor
11-19-07, 12:11 PM
First few times I did that always ending up crashing the boat in dock. Now I always navigate back then hit dock at x
That's more than fair. If you're close enough to "dock at x" then you're close enough for it to be real.
As for the actual docking, I try to obey (my own) harbor traffic rules: never more than 5 knots when inside the breakwater and never more than 1 knot when approaching or leaving the pier itself.
Meah, pulling up to the dock is for wussies. When you can put a IXD in the subpens in Lorient, come talk to me. No driving back & forth either. Spot your pen, make the turn. park it. :arrgh!:
Jimbuna
11-19-07, 03:35 PM
Until, on your to port after a highly successful patrol, you suddenly find yourself in the midst of an air raid......like a turkey in a barrel http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img265/4009/shockedyi3.gif
Then you kinda get to thinking.... :hmm:
;)
Torplexed
11-19-07, 08:37 PM
Teleports are for James T. Kirk. Real captains navigate! :p
Teleports are for James T. Kirk. Real captains navigate! :p
The draw back is less snogging time with the women, beam me up.
CENSORED :p
After hitting an uncharted seamount and smashing up my bow (losing all fore tubes in the process) and then encountering what seemed like the entire Royal Navy (and Coastal Command) on the way out, I eventually gave in and teleported. That will be the last time however...
Bdu in revenge gave me a patrol grid off Spain, I told them that AN would be a better and more realistic option and threatened to torpedo the Bismarck if they didn't change their minds.
Doenitz was sympathetic to my cause and the grid was changed, although there were more than the usual number of men in black leather trenchcoats at the dock to see me off on my fourth patrol.... :hmm:
Jonathan
11-30-07, 01:15 PM
I always navigate all the way back, right up to docking at the pier with the band, nurses, etc. I do use TC until I am close to port, but then I finish at 1X to see the ships the Harbor Traffic mod added.
This is eerily similar to what I do...
Sailor Steve
12-04-07, 06:33 PM
Meah, pulling up to the dock is for wussies. When you can put a IXD in the subpens in Lorient, come talk to me. No driving back & forth either. Spot your pen, make the turn. park it. :arrgh!:
Sorry, I wasn't trying to start a bragging contest; just saying what feels real to me.
Go p**s on someone else's leg.:p :rotfl:
Jonathan
12-05-07, 12:21 AM
Meah, pulling up to the dock is for wussies. When you can put a IXD in the subpens in Lorient, come talk to me. No driving back & forth either. Spot your pen, make the turn. park it. :arrgh!: Sorry, I wasn't trying to start a bragging contest; just saying what feels real to me.
Go p**s on someone else's leg.:p :rotfl:
This kind of talk makes me want to get my own 'boot and go out on the harbor...err, as it stands in Oklahoma, a man-made lake!
Jimbuna
12-05-07, 03:26 PM
First few times I did that always ending up crashing the boat in dock. Now I always navigate back then hit dock at x
That's more than fair. If you're close enough to "dock at x" then you're close enough for it to be real.
As for the actual docking, I try to obey (my own) harbor traffic rules: never more than 5 knots when inside the breakwater and never more than 1 knot when approaching or leaving the pier itself.
Meah, pulling up to the dock is for wussies. When you can put a IXD in the subpens in Lorient, come talk to me. No driving back & forth either. Spot your pen, make the turn. park it. :arrgh!:
Quite a 'spin' you put on it :hmm: ......Now choose carefully, I've put a mine in one of them pens :arrgh!:
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