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We really need a 'abandon ship!' option when this happens :doh:
I had to surface to get all the water out, when I did there were 3 doing circles around the boat :huh:
Where's the surrender option?!
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While the new recruits panic, the WO remains calm.
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Nefarious
09-26-05, 09:37 PM
Would be nice...
_alphaBeta_
09-26-05, 09:48 PM
There's no surrender in U-Boating! :arrgh!:
:-j
Hartmann
09-26-05, 10:11 PM
Yes
could be nice see the crew jumping out the boat to the water in lifejackets. :dead:
unfortunately this is forbiden in the sh3 bdu. the crew have to close the hatch and go deep to avoid that the enigma machine and codes could fall in british hands. :hulk:
WULFPAK
09-26-05, 10:52 PM
Could it be SH3 is an U-505 simulator?
Kpt. Lehmann
09-26-05, 10:59 PM
lol... I'd say most people aren't even aware that the captain of U-505 committed suicide while being under depth charge attack... leaving his crew on their own. Reading about him he was a real JERK to his crew too... a real sicko.
They lived through the attack and buried him at sea.
AlanSmithee
09-26-05, 11:54 PM
We really need a 'abandon ship!' option when this happens :doh:
I had to surface to get all the water out, when I did there were 3 doing circles around the boat :huh:
Where's the surrender option?!
There is a surrender option. If you hit escape when you're surrounded like that, you can select to surrender. No interesting animations, though - just like when you get sunk. I belive that you can use this surrender option any time you're under attack - including when you're under attack by aircraft. Not exactly sure how aircraft would capture you, though. I guess Catalinas could tow you back... :rotfl:
What I really wish is that there would be an option to attempt to scuttle the boat once you've decided to surrender. Of course, given my crew's abilities, they'd probably bungle it and forget to leave the sea strainers open or leave the enigma behind. ;)
Really?
I wonder if the modders could make it so you escape the prison camp a few years later and begin your quest for revenge :arrgh!:
AlanSmithee
09-27-05, 04:00 AM
Really?
I wonder if the modders could make it so you escape the prison camp a few years later and begin your quest for revenge :arrgh!:
Yup. I just did some testing, if you've been detected by the enemy and you're on the surface you can click on 'exit patrol' to get the surrender option.
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http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/237/sh3img2792005441104507xc.jpg
As you can see, surrendering doesn't amount to much, other than the satisfaction of knowing you didn't get your crew killed. You'll just have to imagine the subsequent interrogations and escape attempts. :D
SmokinTep
09-27-05, 06:19 AM
A real U-Boat captain never surrenders.
There's no surrender in U-Boating! :arrgh!:
:-j
A real U-Boat captain never surrenders.
How did Kretschmer survive then? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the highest-scoring U-boat commander of WW2 was a 'real U-boat commander'.
...if you've been detected by the enemy and you're on the surface you can click on 'exit patrol' to get the surrender option...
Amazing. I've been playing for 6 months and I never noticed this option.
_alphaBeta_
09-27-05, 09:43 AM
It was meant to be a joke. I didn't make the comment with any historical accuracy in mind.
...if you've been detected by the enemy and you're on the surface you can click on 'exit patrol' to get the surrender option...
Amazing. I've been playing for 6 months and I never noticed this option.That's for single missions.
Not exactly sure how aircraft would capture you, though. I guess Catalinas could tow you back... :rotfl: :rotfl:
Only for single missions? That sucks!
Anyway, when I want to surrender, I surface and immediately save the game. Then I count how many men are still alive at that point. Then I restart the game, and for every second after that that the boat lasts, one man survives. I then edit the campaign files to reflect the final result.
AlanSmithee
09-27-05, 01:14 PM
That's for single missions.
:nope:
I'm so disappointed. I'd been playing all along like I had the option to surrender. Looks like I'll have to use something like Beery's method.
Not to mention the fact that with 1.4 you don't have the option to end the patrol when enemies are around.
turbidite
09-27-05, 03:23 PM
And you don't even get a newspaper frontpage when you dissapear, waddaya mean I'm not enough of an ace :huh:, what about my "gallant" crew then ? :-j
Wolfram
09-27-05, 03:40 PM
Really?
I wonder if the modders could make it so you escape the prison camp a few years later and begin your quest for revenge :arrgh!:
I second that one. Reminds me of RedBaron, forced down in enemy territory and a chance you escape the POW camp - had a clip of guy goin' over the wire.
:arrgh!:
AlanSmithee
09-27-05, 06:59 PM
Beery, is there any way that SH3 Commander could address this? Perhaps after having "surrendered" in-game (as you describe above) you could select to "surrender" in SH3 Commander, which would end your career and update your career record, pehaps with some text on what happened to you after your surrender. You still wouldn't be able to surrender in-game, but this would at least allow for some closure to a career.
Really?
I wonder if the modders could make it so you escape the prison camp a few years later and begin your quest for revenge :arrgh!:
I second that one. Reminds me of RedBaron, forced down in enemy territory and a chance you escape the POW camp - had a clip of guy goin' over the wire.
:arrgh!:
Escape, try to flee to Mexico, sounds great! Of course, someone will then demand a "Real POW" mod, where all you do is agricultual labor in Kentucky for the duration of the war. :D
I second that one. Reminds me of RedBaron, forced down in enemy territory and a chance you escape the POW camp - had a clip of guy goin' over the wire.
Wow! That brings back memories. There was also the prison image where your guy actually became more unkempt as the years in prison went by. That was Red Baron 1 - must be almost 15 years ago since that game came out. RB2/3D never had the same level of post-career follow-through.
Beery, is there any way that SH3 Commander could address this? Perhaps after having "surrendered" in-game (as you describe above) you could select to "surrender" in SH3 Commander, which would end your career and update your career record, pehaps with some text on what happened to you after your surrender. You still wouldn't be able to surrender in-game, but this would at least allow for some closure to a career.
Good idea. I'll see if anything can be done.
Wolfram
09-27-05, 07:10 PM
:up: Beery
Yes sir I am one of those old and twisted RB guys and to confess yours was the very first UOP I installed in RB - TY still have those mods too ;)
Think we can use those video clips somehow?
BTW you recall the bad crash clip/picture of the severe wounded pilot - end of many a great careers for me. :o
:arrgh!:
...BTW you recall the bad crash clip/picture of the severe wounded pilot - end of many a great careers for me. :o
Now you mention it I do remember. Those career endings were great! I must admit Red Baron was the inspiration for much of my input into SH3 Commander. I loved the fact that Red Baron didn't merely seek to simulate the air combat aspect. The extra non-combat details (like the capture, escape, hospital, the 'war is over' screen, and the gravestone screen) were what made the game seem more real for me. SH3 Commander's post-career and post-war details are derived (at least in part) from Red Baron's example. For me it makes my commander into a real person, and not just a game avatar.
Sheppard
09-27-05, 11:18 PM
Beery, is there any possibility of SH3 Commander becoming part of
the official add-on? I'd use SH3 commander more, but I don't like
having to exit SH3, and then reload it to get full advantage of
SH3 Commander's features; so having it become part of the game
would be a god-send for me.
I doubt it would be included in an official add-on, but similar things have happened (Ubisoft incorporated a similar config tool for IL-2 FB). I'm not even sure there's going to be an add-on, but I'll talk to Jaesen about talking to Ubisoft.
Wolfram
09-28-05, 08:54 AM
For me it makes my commander into a real person, and not just a game avatar.
:yep: same here...
:arrgh!:
Kpt. Lehmann
09-28-05, 10:11 AM
I second that one. Reminds me of RedBaron, forced down in enemy territory and a chance you escape the POW camp - had a clip of guy goin' over the wire.
Wow! That brings back memories. There was also the prison image where your guy actually became more unkempt as the years in prison went by. That was Red Baron 1 - must be almost 15 years ago since that game came out. RB2/3D never had the same level of post-career follow-through.
I'll drink to that! (coffee)
Remember the ZEPPELINS???? :rock:
Kpt. Lehmann
09-28-05, 10:15 AM
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My "other job" flying with the fine men of JASTA 5!
as "Fahnrich Klaus Lehmann"
Good to see screenshots of RB3D again. Hey could that be the lozenge camouflage that first appeared in my BSP2 mod? If so, it's great to see that some stuff from my work on RB3D still lives on.
Remember the ZEPPELINS???? :rock:
Yeah. Remember the uproar that followed after they announced that RB2 wouldn't have the Zeppelins?
HEMISENT
09-28-05, 11:13 AM
I'd heard so much about Red Baron I went to Amazon about a year ago and found a copy. What a dissapointment to find it wouldn't play worth a damn on Windows xp even with the addl xp mod(forgot the name)
Question is all the thought and inqinuity that went into a game 15 years ago that made it so immersive even with antiquated graphics. Just like right now you guys are comparing an antique game that excelled in so many areas.
Why are the new developers dropping the ball again and again. Yeah I know it's all about $. Just is kind of a let down to think that games like RB really had their act together and something as potentially awesome as SHIII is a let down in so many areas.
While the new recruits panic, the WO remains calm.
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5350/help5ms.jpg Destroyer? I don't see any destroyer! :rotfl:
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