IS DAT IT!!!!

[Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense]

is that how it ends!!!

my crew decided to head back to Bergen... we fast timed it back... set out on a new patrol... almost bought it when we decided to stay on top and fight it out with a flight of Sunderlands...

we shot down 2... then some more planes came... shot another down as it was making a diving attack on us... he burst into flames, but kept head straight for us... i thought this was gonna be it, but he clipped the sail, killing everyone up there and taking out everything from scopes to snorkel...

i was up there watching everything... but somehow... i managed to survive :)

we headed back to Bergen... took repairs... got our next orders... headed out... and, in mid patrol (when i got back to the game yesterday and tried to load the mission) i got this message that the war was over...

i couldn't load the mission... i couldn't fight it out to the verrrry end... and beyond...


i wasn't even made to suffer the humiliation of the Allied oocupation...

somehow i was hoping for more... oh well, now i can start another career now... maybe one with the reality toned down...


i dunno... all that work to stay alive... and it ends like this...


--Mike

[squeak]

mike are you using sub commander mod ?

[FAdmiral]

Mike,

If that was real back in 1945, I would bet you would be singing
a very different tune !!! ***I SURVIVED THE WAR & NOW ITS OVER***


JIM

[benetofski]

For you the game is over, however, you can play all over: :up:

...but imagine what it was really like:

Here is an excerpt from my dear friend Werner Hirschmann's book ('Another Place Another Time') at this precise moment when they received the last message from BdU...

".... Finally, we pick up a somewhat garbled message from BdU. It orders us to surface, to set a black flag, to throw overboard all our ammunition and to wait further orders. So - that's the bitter end!

Shortly after midnight - we are again at 60m - the officers meet to discuss the situation.

It is not easy to follow these last orders and to deliver our battle-proven-boat to the allies.

We ponder all kinds of options: scuttling the boat, Spain, South America, Germany, - nothing is a viable solution. We will after all, obey, as always!

The CO calls the crew together in the Zentrale and makes a short speech explaining the situation. Then, "At 0900, at dawn, we will surface. Everybody will have packed his basic necessities and be ready to abandon ship. Any questions?" Silence. "Dismissed!"

Again we sit in the wardroom and talk about unimportant matters. The mood is tense. Artificial gallows-humour helpds to overcome the bitterness of the situation.

Then it's time for our preparations. The II.WO, (Leutnant Muller), stows all secret books, papers and matters in bags and weighs them down with heavy objects. They are destined to go overboard. The torpedo officer prepares his 'eels' for firing. Ammunition is lugged to the 'Zentrale' . And the men are busy collecting their belongings.

I find myself standing around, somewhat helplessly, as I dont quite know what to do with myself. Joining the others in the packing? Abondoning what has been my world for mor than a Year. The full meaning of the events has not sunk in yet."........

and another excerpt:

....." the news we receive from American radio Stations affects us deeply! we learn that Germany is to be divided into parts each to be occupied by one of the allied powers.".....

We play SH3 as a game - this guy actually played it for REAL!

(and for him and many 'lucky' crews, 'DAT was not quite it!' as the POW system and eventually (if they were really lucky) repatriation was somewhere in their future. In fact the Germany they knew (proud, broken yet resistant) was no more - to be totally plundered and humiliated (spoils of war etc!) by the occupational forces before the Germany that we now know came into being

makes you think eh? :hmm:

[Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense]

yeah ben... that's exactly what i'm talking about...

....a radio message, or something...

while i was on patrol...

... not when i took a break and came back to the game after a day or two.

i try to continue the campaign where i left off... and boom, wars over no more campaign...

gimme a chance to decide what i'm gonna do... let me experience the tension as allied planes and ships encounter us as we make our way back to the nearest base... as a matter of fact, we could be ordered by the nearest dd to proceed to a specific base...

and, i'm well aware that this is virtual reality... a game... not the real thing... so all the stuff about what they went through during the ending days, and how i would've been happy to go back home and all... well, that should've been left up to me and my men...

and i'm aware of a few personal histories of some real people who lived through post war Germany... i used to fly in and out of there on a regular basis... i've spoken to some of these old soldiers... i've had a chance to feel what some of em think of us... first hand, not from some book...

it'll take a lil more than this game to make me start thinking about anything having to do with the real events of the end of the war in Europe... this doesn't even come close to any of the realities... i'm surprised that that would even be bought up...

i'm talking about a game... plain and simple... we should've gotten to play it out to the end...

and to do what ever way we wanted... we should've been able to choose to follow the stand down orders... or, to disobey the orders and fight it out the the death... or maybe the South American option... or maybe even scuttling our ship...

whatever... as a virtual skipper, in a virtual war, i should've been allowed a virtual final decision :arrgh!:

after all that effort to remain alive... then to have it end so matter of factly... boooooooo... not even one of those pretty nurses to meet us as we brought our boat in for the last time...

even the original Medal Of Honor series had some sort of finale...

such a bad way to end such a great game... :down:

ohhhh weeeellllll... can't have everything... :lol:


[added]

ooops, sorry squeak... no mods... except for the one that adds the DasBoat crew faces...

--Mike

[BladeHeart]

Mike

I had this problem a few weeks ago; assuming you are using SH3Cmdr.

Has the month changed during the patrol, as I think that what triggered the situation for me. :know:

To get round this open up the relevant career folder and go to the careers config file. Open it with notepad. Scroll down the details of the last mission and there are two lines that read something like career end and war end. Both of those will now say true, edit them to false and save. open up SH3Cmdr again and you should get your career back. :up:

May I suggest you change the realistic career option for it (if not I suspect you will get a repetition).

Hope it helps. :)
:lurk:

Just read the added comment. No mods? that being the case disregard the above. :rotfl:

[Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense]

thx BH... i think we departed Bergen on or about April 9th...

anyways, i'll give your suggestion a shot... just to see what happens :up:

--Mike

[benetofski]

Mike,


whatever... as a virtual skipper, in a virtual war, i should've been allowed a virtual final decision

I cant agree more - a final chapter!

Have fun in your new boat! :arrgh!:

[Twelvefield]

At least SHIII doesn't end the same way the original Half-Life did.