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Type941
08-30-05, 04:29 PM
:ping:
Grab 4MB Trailer (http://www.edgefiles.com/files/20546.html) if you want to see a quick preview first, before downloading the whole thing..



I've added this time the ending which has the Final Battle in more length. So from 6:51 to 8:10 it's differnt stuff, compared to the original release. Matching music was tough, especially on transition, but I couldn't get it better. Still, it shows similar amount of time when compared to the battle of Denmark Strait, which is cool.

2 versions - one in Black and White, and other in color.

about 9 minutes long now! :arrgh!:

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Finally, I've done it. :)

This is a Silent Hunter III 8 minute film showing the history of Bismarck, from her departure to her final days, shown stage by stage. I tried to capture the more significant parts of Operation Rheinübung and considering the challenge, I think it worked out quite alright. Enjoy!



Choose one of the mirrors that works best. Also be patient please, sometimes it won't work from the first try (it’s the server…) Ok, that’s all for download, I hope it works.

It's a large movie, and size is a cool 99mb, but I don't want to compress it down to the level of things becoming hard to read. As far as I can see, size is the only minus - but remembering CCIP famous "Blind Man's Tale" - I think the size won't be a turn off for downloading it. I’ve put more effort into it than to my previous “Bismarck:Payback” – it should show.

Included with the download is also a readme file that covers the points covered in the film, as well as the historical part behind the film.

Each episode (14 to be exact) was recreated as closely as possible using the mission editor. Read the credits at the end, it has the soundtrack list, and of course special thanks to all the mods I've used from this website. It's my 3rd Silent Hunter 3 movie, so I hope I can improve on many things with camera work, but that would have to wait till I get a much faster machine - my AMD2500+ is having a hard time recording with Fraps!

Leave a comment if you liked it!

Captain Strangelove
08-30-05, 04:37 PM
Downloading right now and will watch it for breakfast. Looking forward to it!

This 40kbit/s server from your list of three looks alright, by the way.

Cheers

Kai

joea
08-30-05, 04:49 PM
Downloading will watch and give my feedback. These forums and films etc. are almost as much fun as the game itself. :cool:

CCIP
08-30-05, 04:56 PM
Great! It's finally out!

Heh, well, excellent visuals and style. I especially loved the part leading up to the Denmark Straits battle, with the ships creeping through the fog - that was definitely great use of athmosphere, and you could really get a feel for the size of the ships there, too :up:

Definitely something for those who already have the history of the whole thing in their head - otherwise, I don't think the average, non-Bismarck-educated viewer would know.

It seemed like it was a bit shorter than it should've been, outside of the Straits battle. Not neccesarily a bad thing, but it seems to be sort of anti-climactic at the end since it really built up tension until and through the Denmark Straits, but then it really seems to go over some similarly-dramatic events in literally seconds.

Great work though. And an honour to see my camera mod finally used in a movie like this :up:

Beery
08-30-05, 04:59 PM
All I can say is WOW!

Type941
08-30-05, 05:45 PM
My main focus as you remember was on Denmark strait battle. The sinking of Bismarck really, what was that - a huge task force overwhelming an immobilized Bismarck, with tired crew that didn't really score any hits. It was pretty much beating up a wreck, and they still didn't sink her, even though they sent torpedoes end and bambarded it with shells.

I tell you another reason I didn't want it too long in the end - because when the germans blew bismarck up so she could finall sink, there were hundreds of people floating in the water (i still have this picture image in my head, many heads). And because of a u-boat sighting, the british had to leave and all those crewman died, bar few dozens who got picked up early enough. I figured showing that would be too a bit too much. I tried to show that basically there was one true battle, and than damaged Bismarck was on the run. It broke away from Eugen, was harassed by bombers, got torpedoed more than once, than got slaughtered by Home Fleet battleships. So it wasn't a great ending or something like that (for germans).

AS you picked up rightly though, it is mostly a historic account I tried to make, even though I couldn't help but to dramatize a couple of places (like the fog and the final hours attack).

JohnnyPotPie
08-30-05, 06:08 PM
:up: Very good movie!!!! I loved the soundtrack!

Syxx_Killer
08-30-05, 06:36 PM
That was awesome! Great job! :rock: :up: :up: :cool:

Nightowl
08-30-05, 07:08 PM
What can I use to OPEN it with? -Nightowl :oops:

Katana
08-30-05, 07:08 PM
Great movie :up: . Loved the music from Lord of the Rings and Gladiator..thought I recognized it.

Wolf52
08-30-05, 08:55 PM
Hey great movie! I kinda got inspired by it and tried fraps out, but did you pay for yours? Now i get that stupid label at the top of my videos and they can only be 30 seconds each.

martes86
08-30-05, 09:53 PM
I don't have words enough to tell how amazing this video is.
Excellent job. :up:

WolfyBrandon
08-30-05, 09:58 PM
Superb Job Type941! :up: :up:

Great movie, and well worth the download! All these videos being created by the community is making me want to create one of my own. There is a lot of outstanding footage you managed to capture Type941, great job! I like the scene with the ice burgs and the ship coming through the fog, for a second you think your looking at another chunk of ice but after it comes into focus its the bow wake of the ship. :D

:arrgh!:
Wolfy

Nightowl
08-30-05, 11:14 PM
Nothing I have on my computer will play it. What are you guys using? -Nightowl

Beltza
08-31-05, 12:33 AM
:up: Wonderful. What Cameron hasn't done, you have done it.

Congratulations

WolfyBrandon
08-31-05, 12:40 AM
Nothing I have on my computer will play it. What are you guys using? -Nightowl

Nightowl im useing the current version of Windows Media Player 10, and it plays it for me. You can download it at this link if you don't have it.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/mp10/default.aspx

Wolfy

joea
08-31-05, 01:40 AM
Great job. Really enjoyed it. :rock:

Marhkimov
08-31-05, 02:20 AM
Awesome movie... i love watching all of the the hard work that ppl do to create these works of art. I can't wait for more! nice job!

gorilliamos
08-31-05, 02:40 AM
holy ****!!! That was really good. I wish it was longer. Great job! The music was a nice touch.

gorilliamos
08-31-05, 02:44 AM
ooppps.... I forgot that I coudln't say s@#t. For the record I would never say holy poo poo...... seriously..... no really.... i swear....

satmax
08-31-05, 04:38 AM
Wow. Great use of this game for this kind of work!

Love the soundtrack!

My favorite part, which I wish was just a tad longer if the soundtrack would have permitted, was the building orchestra as the Bismarck broke out of the fog! Really, really awe inspiring! You grasped that with some skill!

I was really getting into it during the end when the Bismarck was taking a pounding when all of a sudden, the Bismarck sank in a tenth of a second. Not to make light of the subject due to the lives lost, but the sinking was rather comical the way it showed the huge cannons going off, then all you saw was 10 feet of the bow sticking out of the water and *poof!* gone. Was it a little too fast? Maybe. But an awesome work of art.

Salute!

Type941
08-31-05, 06:01 AM
I hear the call for longer sinking... It's just that I've done the whole Bimarck sinking in my previous movie, it was like half of it really, so I figured i didn't want to do it all over again.. Battle of Denmark Strait was my main aim here! :P

What I'm really glad is that noone really noticed or didn't fixate on the fact that I've used camera to hide the lack of HMS Hood model with another KGV class. So instead of Prince of Wales/Hood I had POW/POW. To me that was the tricky bit, as SH3 doesn't have the model of Hood, and using the Bismarck with british Guns wouldn't have worked - simply because of the single funnel siluhette.

BTW, there is like 10 pictures of the whole operation Rhenubung - so considering that, you've seen a lot more there! :|\

Anyway, I think it's fair comment about making the ending longer, and I'll consider it. And if I do (30% chance, let's say ;)) - I will do the whole thing probably in black & white as i've done some testing in that mode and it looked VERY realistic, bar the spectacular colors. :hmm:

EDIT: Ok, I've looked at the soundtrack, and it SEEMS possible to make the ending longer, just to fill in those requests. I want it done well, so I have filmed some more footatge and for sure it's gonna be a good addition for those who wanted to see the ending longer. May be tonight you'll have a longer version, almost by 1min.

stljeffbb1
08-31-05, 07:54 AM
Cool movie!

-Jeff

Syxx_Killer
08-31-05, 08:39 AM
What I'm really glad is that noone really noticed or didn't fixate on the fact that I've used camera to hide the lack of HMS Hood model with another KGV class.

hehe I noticed it. :rotfl:

I've been thinking, would it have been better to use a Revenge BB instead, for the Hood? I think a Revenge would look that part better, so to speak. :88)

Beery
08-31-05, 08:46 AM
ooppps.... I forgot that I coudln't say s@#t. For the record I would never say holy poo poo...... seriously..... no really.... i swear....

I think that's the point of the swear filter - to make those swear words look ridiculous. It's made me edit out my own swear words on a couple of occasions. :doh:

Type941
08-31-05, 01:08 PM
UPDATE:

On first page (http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=42386), I've added the LONG VERSION of the movie that some have been 'demanding' :yep: . So now it's almost 9 minutes long! Tell me what you think of it now. I've tried to include all the footage I had that was originally kept 'behind the scenes' :lol:

Oh, and if someone is willing to mirror the long color version for me, i would be very greateful!.

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I've been thinking, would it have been better to use a Revenge BB instead, for the Hood? I think a Revenge would look that part better, so to speak. :88)

@Syxx, compare visually the Revenge, KGV and Bismarck. Important for me are these: Size in relation to KGV, and funnel numbers.

Revenge is way off on both, as it has 1 funnel, and is smaller than KGV (Hood was like Bismarck in size). Hence, I used KGV for my film to double as Hood as it was the closest in appearance from far off, and had the correct number of funnels. The obvious difference of course are the quad guns, 3 and not 4 turrets, and differnt hull shape at stern and length. But Revenge is all wrong, so I think no, it would not have been better to use it. :doh:

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martes86
08-31-05, 01:23 PM
Downloading... :D

Dowly
08-31-05, 01:38 PM
Downloading 82% and counting. I`ll comment as soon as I`ve watched it!

Dowly
08-31-05, 01:54 PM
That was awesome movie!! I downloaded the B&W version and I think that it made it even better, like a documentary. :up:

Elder-Pirate
08-31-05, 01:55 PM
Downloading and making popcorn. :up:

Type941
08-31-05, 03:26 PM
I hink BW is cool too, but I still want more effects from Premier pro on that - will have to do some sort of search on extra plugins later.

Here's a little 4mb preview I made - I thought I should have released it before the whole thing, but forgot! :) Anyway, here it is (http://www.edgefiles.com/files/20546.html). :|\

Syxx_Killer
08-31-05, 03:39 PM
That was a pretty cool trailer. :up:

martes86
08-31-05, 04:01 PM
Saw the new one in BW, and it's nice and nicer. :D :up:

jeronimoh
08-31-05, 04:40 PM
Amazing work Type941, I can't believe my eyes. Great SHOW of the SHIII engine :-) I have one question, which video codec is used to compression? Some DIVX or XVID or anything else?

Type941
08-31-05, 05:43 PM
I have one question, which video codec is used to compression? Some DIVX or XVID or anything else?

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And thanks! :up:

CCIP
08-31-05, 05:49 PM
Yeah, you definitely did a good job with the MPEG codec here, seems to have worked really well. It does always have the big advantage of being the most compatible codec - anyone with a Windows machine can run it without ever installing anything on their computer :)

Type941
08-31-05, 05:55 PM
. It does always have the big advantage of being the most compatible codec - anyone with a Windows machine can run it without ever installing anything on their computer :)

That is precisely why I don't use Avi, Divx, Xvid and such.

CCIP
08-31-05, 06:07 PM
DivX/XviD is AVI. Well, .avi is just a container :)

The style of the footage helps here, since it trickily covers up some of the compression issues. MPEG 1 is a pretty good codec, but it scales poorly into high bitrates, which is what you need when you want the real crisp imagery. XviD, DivX, and other newer codecs are still better for that.

But hey, if you can balance compatibility and quality like you successfully did here - all the power to you :up:

Type941
08-31-05, 06:14 PM
That fact that I don't know that avi IS Xvid/Divx is probably why I shouldn't use it. :) I tried VDub and just did save as Avi and ended up with a 13GB - after that, I said 'stuff it' and went back to my good old premier pro! :rock:

Elder-Pirate
08-31-05, 07:50 PM
I liked it in color. Just because color photography wasn't used very much in the 1940's ( but they sure did have color film ) dose'nt mean it should be seen in B&W in order to be a classic.

Today on TV and the movies when they show old shows made back then is ok because thats the way it was filmed , but when these modern shows go to black & White to feature a past flashback or something is absured. We today have a very good color technology and it should allways be used. ( well maybe not for X-Rays as color screws that up :lol: )

I think people can recognize a segmet in the past for the clothes worn back then or the older cars etc. so it should be color. :doh:


Color I tell ya. :rotfl:

Ok, ok I'm out of here, you don't have to tell me twice. ;) :lol: :D

Type941
08-31-05, 08:13 PM
Yes yes, just that Bismarck photos in action were all BW so I was tempted to do a BW version as well :huh: . It only takes 1 hour to export it :damn: .

I think Discovery had a series called War in Color or something like that, when all the footage they showed from WW2 was in color. I never really watched it completely, but the bits I've seen were quite nice - a bit grainy, bit oversaturated and contrasty, but quite cool as far as quality goes.

For example, growing up I was used to the image of WW2 as always BW, grey skies, and generally, gloomy looking scenes. Yet, with these color footages it reminded me that there were also sunny days, and colorful scenes.

However, with so much 'speed up' 'black and white' film showing thousands of casulties, it is probably not too bad it wasn't all color, if you know what I mean.



Anyway, back to the movie. For me personally, there are several shots I liked best and made a point of filiming on purpose (rest, was spontaneous):

- The U-Boat foreground/Bismarck background scene - to give the sense of size, as well as some people into the scene

- german flag in the beginning with the music, just to give it that 'evil force is on the way' feel

- Goetland sighting of Bismarck in Kattegat - first real visual contact taht alarmed the British

- Prinz Eugen at night near Rugen, and sort of showing off how good that camouflage could work in the darkness - when the dark bow/stern really do hide the dimensions (bar SH3 glowing wake)

- Bismarck being shot from top as airplane flows by - it's the same Fjord she was parked, same approx. 500m from the shore, etc.

- the Fog scene - sense of scale, dramatic 'jump out of Fog' scenario, something very cool about it

- the guy in radio room senging a message on first contact with Bismarck in the Denmark Strait - the Chase is ON.

- the image of 2 british BBs in on the horizon in Denmark strait, and other 'distance' shots - all modelled on photographs

- all of the last scene shots leading up the the final battle:

~ Bismarck makes a 180 turn to shake off the cruisers pursuing it (always on the horizon in real life, but that time there was fog and it should have been a surprise)

~ Ark Royal aircraft/cruiser squadron that launched the bombers

~ Torpedo hitting the rudder/Bismarck firing back at constantly harassing airplanes

- Final Battle - several shots that are similar to what you find in drawings, such as the close up, 'guns ablazing' and sinking stern first

- 4 torpedoes hitting Bismarck from heavy cruiser Dorcheshire (for our purpuses, just a Fiji but hey!)

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Now, I wonder what OTHER episode in WW2 i can recreate using Sh3, something about Sharnhorst and Gnesenau, the Ugly Sisters perhaps? Their siluhettes is very simlar to bismarck, and the size is very close as well. Or something Submarin-ish...
:hmm:

Elder-Pirate
08-31-05, 09:02 PM
Well I personally think you did one heck of a good job on those films and will be watching for another perhaps.


Make up a two hour war movie taken from SH3, slap it on DVD's, set up a sale for them and you'll be a milloniare in no time. ;)



But stay away from that lousy Starfarce on your dvd's. :rotfl: :rotfl: :arrgh!:

Type941
08-31-05, 09:11 PM
Make up a two hour war movie taken from SH3, slap it on DVD's, set up a sale for them and you'll be a milloniare in no time. ;)

And than end up with my name in a banned circle in signatures around forum, sayin 'boycotte Type941'.
:dead:

No, but may be Ubisoft will call me up and ask me to make them their next SH4 intro vid! :rock: Hopefully the right person is reading. :sunny:

And by the way,

:/\rlz:

Smoker59er
09-01-05, 12:17 PM
That was just great! I love your music. It gave you the ability to really set the mood for your scene. On my next move I think I'll take your lead and use other sound tracks and not just the SHIII
music.

I know how much work you put into getting all those shots and it shows!

How did you get the steady cam shot off the wing of the air plane as it flew over the ships?

One thing ...and maybe I'm a slow reader.... but your film narrative
went by a little fast for me as did the credits. (remember it could just be me :D )

Great work. Look foreword to you're next film.

Smoker59er!

Smoker59er
09-01-05, 12:41 PM
Well I personally think you did one heck of a good job on those films and will be watching for another perhaps.


Make up a two hour war movie taken from SH3, slap it on DVD's, set up a sale for them and you'll be a milloniare in no time. ;)



But stay away from that lousy Starfarce on your dvd's. :rotfl: :rotfl: :arrgh!:

Sounds good but the problem is COPY RIGHTS. You'd have to get them from UBISOFT in order to make a film you could sell, and then they would want royalties and the same would go for all the music you use. It's a bummer but we are using their software for a commercial use.

I teach voice-over classes at a local school and this is one of the topics that come up in class regarding the use of other peoples or companies property for personal gain. Maybe UBISOFT would let you do it for free. I don't know.

Take care

Smoker59er

Type941
09-01-05, 01:11 PM
Sounds good but the problem is COPY RIGHTS. ...

I think I answered that already. It's not a plan to sell this thing, it's only for fun really, because if i were ever to do this more seriously:

- I would have to FIRST get permission from Ubi
- write MY OWN music for it

And than there's tons of other stuff. No, this is just for fun, like a hobby I have - it's no longer playing the games that is fun for me, but rather exploring them, modding them, and making things out of them that I like personally. I'm still in patrol 8 in my first career, and really haven't explored it much, thought through mission editor I've seen all the ships, icebergs, weather, subnets, mines, whatever.

PS. The bismarck story narrative is indeed a bit short in the end, but you can pause it! ;) And I put into the readme the quick history overview a link to the website that covers the whole thing pretty good.

caspofungin
09-01-05, 01:19 PM
dl'd and watched -- really fantastic work. some of those shots were pretty sweet -- i loved the bismarck emerging from the fog. You've every right to be proud.

rik007
09-01-05, 03:01 PM
Great film! The end was short but the cinematics were fantastic. I appreciated the first encounter with the battle over great distance very much. Good ode to SH3! :up:

Malc
09-01-05, 03:25 PM
Brill movie, well *directed* and thought out. Its areal shame that SHIII doesn't have an option to render direct to avi or mpg from the camera position... this would produce really stunning quality movies. IMO there is a slight loss in the capturing via the screen cature software, re-rendering in Premier etc.... but its still very watchable.

Maybe some talented modder could come up with a means of using the external view camera to capture short AVI's

Type941
09-01-05, 04:26 PM
Great film! The end was short.

I thought I took care of that in the Long Version. :hmm:

jeronimoh
09-01-05, 06:19 PM
I would definitely download this even if it would have 200 or 300 MB. As I said in my previous post, I like this stuff. Do you think the ratio size/quality is perfect "as is" or the quality (less compression) could be increased at the cost of increased size? I think compression is quite noticeable next to edges of the objects and godlike BISMARCK could possibly deserve increased bitrate and higher details (maybe resolution too). What do the others think? :up:

Malc
09-01-05, 06:37 PM
to be honest, with modern broadband averaging 2MB downloading a 300 MB file is quite acceptable. However the issue my well be finding a host that can accomodate the oringinal pure uncompressed movie and support the bandwidth of all these people downloading a 300mb or more file.

@type941 - what is the file size of the raw or full size avi before it was reduced and re-compressed for up-load. ??

Type941
09-01-05, 06:52 PM
Avi is 13GB when I tried to save the Current 111mb version in plain Avi. That sucked btw.

But the size of it without compression? I don't know! If you are familiar with Adobe Premiere, it exports under setting you select, so you only know the final version. Of course you can first save as movie file in full, but that would be in excess of a few GB. However, i don't ahve the patience for that, as it's pretty much a useless activity. I got a setting I am ok with, and I prefer to use it because I believe in the 'if it's not broken - don't fix it rule'! :)

I am not able to 'recompress' the whole thing anymore - because I've removed all the source video files for the movie now - they took up about 30gb.

But, in future, I can make it a bit more quality, the size tradeoff won't be too high, as this is already high quality setting toned down (from 5 to 3.97 or smth). If I make it 4.3 for example, it can be better.

Malc
09-01-05, 07:19 PM
13GB for an 8 min movie :o :o

maybe the problem is the FRAPS capture software geerating such a large file..

I've used Premier Pro.. but hate the way it always re-renders captured video, even if you capture / import in the same format and don't add anything to it. Ive also found premier to crash on my system, although pro seems more stable than previous versions.

Personally I use Vegas Video 3 for most of my editing, and Ulead for DVD production. For editing mpeg video Womble is excellent (I often transfer VHS tv recordings to DVD and Womble allows quick editing to remove commercial breaks :) )

Like I said, we need some bright spark to come up with a mod where we can hit the space bar to start and stop the recording and save a clip in a compressed but standard format (standard video _PAL and NTSE would be cool :) )

Keep upi the good work - having played with lightwave to make a short intro to a DVD I can respect the time and effort you put in to making the movie... well done and looking forward to the next one ;)

Beery
09-01-05, 09:56 PM
I watched the longer movie, and I was amazed to find it just as good as the shorter version (I was afraid changing it might adversely affect it). This is an amazing piece of work. The camera angles are astounding. I think this movie could win first prize if there was an industry-sponsored competition for short films made from computer games.

Note that, if you change the name of the movie file to Intro.wmv, it will play as the game's intro movie.

My only criticism is that it's not available in a larger format. I realise it would take ages to download, but it's so good that it would be worth it.

Type941
09-02-05, 02:57 AM
Thanks Beery! :)

The total time I spent on video itself is actually just around 2 days. But may be I spent a few more days on reading up on the history of it, memorising it, and than many hours on making missions for each episode. The filming bit was actually very quick because i had a story board and knew what type of shots I wanted. I once was a production manager for an ad as a part of a university workshop - I must stay the experience there and working with one of europe's best DOPs makes me think that whatever I do, is just fun, because those guys are truly awesome when it comes to filming things. But of course, this time around I was more aware about this film, and at least trying to get some scenario and tell a story.

About larger format - well, it's too late, its source files are all wiped out of my HDD, but I'd have tought time hosting a file bigger than it is. This is the biggest I've made yet.

terrapin
09-02-05, 03:14 AM
but I'd have tought time hosting a file bigger than it is. This is the biggest I've made yet.

YOU (and CCIP, of course) would get all the space needed for your videos! :)

The Avon Lady
09-02-05, 03:17 AM
Again bravo, bravo! Great work.

Would have been nice if you could make the B&W version look aged, for effect.

I tried uploading a copy of the full color version but it failed. Restarting but it will take another 2+ hours.

:up: :up:

UPDATE:

Mirror: Bismarck: The Movie (long version, color) (http://www.filefront.com/?filepath=/theofpfaq/sh3/SH3_Video_BismarckTheMovie_LongVersion_Color.zip)

raumden
09-02-05, 07:27 AM
Outstanding flic!!! :up:

btw, i saw people jumping off a ship, what mod implements that?
just asking because i've never seen that before...

Type941
09-02-05, 07:41 AM
btw, i saw people jumping off a ship, what mod implements that?
.

Ammunition exploding. It's stock game graphics, I don't have the Hollywood mod installed yet (wasnt's JGSME arranged when I looked it up originally, so never really bothered with it, but might do it for future, since I think it makes explosions bit moe dramatic, etc).

Like I have in the credits - only those mods that are listed you see the effects of in the movie.

Thank you Avon Lady!

johntkelly
09-02-05, 08:01 AM
Unbelievable work!
You should be very proud.

Amazing use of camera angles throughout, right from start, sweeping in over the water/harbour.
And that scene as the Bismarck emerges from amongst the iceburgs - nothing less than awesome.

Great job - two thumbs up! :up: :up:

raumden
09-02-05, 09:26 AM
Ammunition exploding. It's stock game graphics, I don't have the Hollywood mod installed yet (wasnt's JGSME arranged when I looked it up originally, so never really bothered with it, but might do it for future, since I think it makes explosions bit moe dramatic, etc).

Like I have in the credits - only those mods that are listed you see the effects of in the movie.

Thank you Avon Lady!


Ah ok, then i just never saw that before :)

Beery
09-02-05, 09:48 AM
Like I have in the credits - only those mods that are listed you see the effects of in the movie.

I'm just curious, what mod did you use for the ENV stuff (sea and sky)? The standard sea has some serious problems, especially at night. If you're going to be making more movies (and I certainly hope so) you might want to check out some of the recent work done on sea and sky. My latest BeeryWater mod contains a very nice new night sky feature, as well as more realistic and atmospheric underwater visuals.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Beery/explosion.jpg

Syxx_Killer
09-02-05, 10:07 AM
Is that a screenshot of the new water mod?

Beery
09-02-05, 10:59 AM
Yeah. It shows how the sky is now lighter than the water (before, the water was luminescent at night, and much brighter than the sky). The sky is also more of a realistic deep blue colour (which I've seen on dark nights away from cities). The old sky was almost black.

magick
09-02-05, 11:19 AM
Great movie! Specialy loved the scene where the ship comes out of the fog, I wonder how you made this:)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/288/splakatkriegsmarine25yj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

CCIP
09-02-05, 11:32 AM
I don't know about above-water scenes, but as much as I love my own water config, I had to go back to the default water for when I worked with my movie, because murky water is actually difficult for compression purposes - that is, the contrasts are lower and the colours are, well, deeper, making it a bit problematic to compress.

I'd like to see a 'movie-friendly murky water' config sometime though, hmm :hmm:

Wolf52
09-02-05, 11:46 AM
Ive got a question for you type 941, how exactly did you do the opening shot skimming along the waves? The only camera movement i can do is from side to side and directly towards what im looking at, havent accomplshed diagonal yet. Plus, how were you able to keep the camera so smooth?

Type941
09-02-05, 02:27 PM
Ive got a question for you type 941, how exactly did you do the opening shot skimming along the waves? The only camera movement i can do is from side to side and directly towards what im looking at, havent accomplshed diagonal yet. Plus, how were you able to keep the camera so smooth?

Airplane. :up: And camera smooth - I'm not so sure, I think it's the weakest spot of the film, the intro bit, because the FPS drop with turning camera made it a bit jaggy. Not very satisfied but I tried filiming it more than once - same result. So i just left it. the point until it starts to turn left is ok, smooth and good framerate because it's fitted to the plane, but when I start moving mouse - it sees Bimsarck, the polycount shoots through the roof, and we have the jaggy effect, I appologise for it - my computer is simply too weak to render things better.

@ Beery - I will look forward for your water, but indeed, the modded water doesn't render well, the final sinking scene shows it well, underwater image gets 'lines' in kind of gradient fashion. For playing though, i found your original transparency too much. I want the stock one - i like seeing my sub.

I don't know what water I use, it's not stock but it's one of those that didn't work with JGSME and I replaced it forgetting about making a backup (and I still wish I can find the original - that Rapidsh*t link doesn't let me download). :arrgh!:

Wolf52
09-02-05, 04:14 PM
So i assume youve done some modding to the camera to look down from the plane? In that same vein, did you somehow remove that little invisible "no-camera" barrier around some of the ships?

Type941
09-02-05, 04:34 PM
So i assume youve done some modding to the camera to look down from the plane? In that same vein, did you somehow remove that little invisible "no-camera" barrier around some of the ships?

yes, I use the mous to look down. and i use Follow the unit camera ( ,. buttons).

I don't understand the little invisible barrier bit? :88)

Wolf52
09-02-05, 05:08 PM
Well you know, when you get too close to a ship the camera hits this little wall and if you keep moving towards the ship the camera will glide up and down along this barrier. Thought maybe you had disabled it for some of the closer shots.

Rubini
09-03-05, 12:13 AM
:up: AWESOME!! :up:

I will advise James Cameron! :D


Rubini.

MobyGrape
09-03-05, 01:28 AM
can't find it..??

OK..TY AvonLady..That helped..

Type941
09-03-05, 02:45 AM
can't find it..??

OK..TY AvonLady..That helped..

see page 1 of the thread of course for all links.

ExMachina
09-03-05, 11:14 AM
Type941,

Very nicely done! Outstanding effort!

-ExM

Gizzmoe
09-04-05, 04:42 PM
Thanks, it´s absolutely great!!! :up:

HundertzehnGustav
09-05-05, 11:20 AM
one iceberg in the fog... how boring
two icebergs... yawn
Hold on ... moving icebergs...?

HOLY SHIP I AM RUN OVER BY A BATTLESHIPPPPPPPPP :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

RUNNNNNN SWIMMMM for your lifeeeeee

Stop- it is a movie only and for gods sake, breathe agaion, i said BREATHE
Oh my God, that rocked badly :rock:

Type941
09-05-05, 03:26 PM
:sunny: Thanks! Glad you guys got a kick out of the fog scene! :up:

HundertzehnGustav
09-06-05, 09:21 AM
...and he sais "thanks"???

dude i owe you a case of beer :o for that movie :up:
next movie: bunch of LuftwaffLe guys busting some Tommies
Revenge time for one hell of a beautiful battleship. :arrgh!:
:rotfl: :rotfl:

Floater
09-06-05, 09:54 AM
If you ever fancy making another - and I really hope you do - how about the Channel Dash?

Or maybe a fictional "what-if": the Bismarck breaking out into the Atlantic without damage and engaging an Allied convoy with U-boat support?

Just a couple of thoughts.

Type941
09-06-05, 11:16 AM
If you ever fancy making another - and I really hope you do - how about the Channel Dash?

Or maybe a fictional "what-if": the Bismarck breaking out into the Atlantic without damage and engaging an Allied convoy with U-boat support?

Just a couple of thoughts.

I planned to make that kind of 'dreamy' overlay in the beginning - you know, convoy line, being ripped apart by rampagin Bismarck and Eugen, plus uboat. But later thought it contradicted to the whole movie idea, so I left it out. The channel dash - is that Eugen and Sharnorst/Gneisenau? But that was jus them sailing through the channel in daylight. that's not too exciting to show.

The Norway invasion was filled with little skirmishes and mine operations, destroyer fights, etc, so it can be an intersting movie.


I wanted though to make a Sharnorst/Gneisenau movie, and by looking at possible conversion of Bismarck, it was decided that the end mod looked not very good. So I don't know - perhaps my next movie should include new ships developed for SH3..

elanaiba
09-08-05, 08:23 AM
Outstanding! Good movie!

Thanks a lot man!

Type941
02-05-09, 02:49 PM
i was just looking to download my good old film and go figure, it's on youtube with 160k views, 4.5stars and blocked sound... :salute::wah::arrgh!: