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Gammel
08-27-05, 07:27 PM
Anyone knows if this is modeled in the game?
Especialy on silent running in great deep that should be
a problem.
It would be great when you´d have to make a decision between sinking slowly to the button or turning the pumps on (quit silent running) and maybe beeing spottet.
Wolfgang Hirschfeld discribed that situation very impressive
in his book "Feindfahrten - Logbuch eines U-bootfunkers" (english title is something like an uboats secret war diary o.s)
I haven´t seen that in the game so far, but i´m now for the first time in a situation where i need to go real deep for long.

If it´s not in the game, is it possible to mod? Perhaps is possible to add some constant flooding to the boat that would not harm you if the pumps are running...

Also i noticed my crew ´s going to "pipi-mode" :) when reaching operational deep. Especialy i hate this guy:
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7499/sh3exe07ds.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh3exe07ds.jpg)
Damn! We are not on Type IIa any more! lol This crewmen makes me nervous. If he only could stand still for some minutes...
Wolfgang Hirschfeld wrote something about 285 meters with the type IX...
Is it possible to mod away that behavior? No uboat crew would have acted like that and it looks sillly to me.
His constant movements is a waste of oxygen too...

FAdmiral
08-27-05, 11:16 PM
I am fairly sure when I experienced flooding awhile back, my
boat started to slowly go deeper. I'm thinking I had to maintain
some trim till I got the flooding under control so I could level
off again.....


JIM

hakkikt
08-28-05, 06:02 AM
When you have flooding, the water pulls you down, yes. The effect can be so strong that your diveplanes cannot counter it at slow speed.
You have to repair the damage and pump out the water before you have total control of your ship again.

Gammel
08-28-05, 06:45 AM
Thanks for your replies, Gentleman.
But cause of my broken english you maybe got me wrong.
I wasn´t talking about flooding caused by damage to the sub and
it´s clear to me that the sub sinks deeper when you have taken too much water.

A ww2 sub (and i think modern subs too) does take water when running underwater. No enemy presence is needed for that.
it´s only a little, but it gets worser how deeper you are. There are several spots where the water does come in. In german they are called "Außenbordverschlüsse", don´t know how to translate, sorry.


This water has to pumped out of the sub. Not immediately, but if you don´t run the pumps for several hours your boat gets heavier and heavier.

Means you have to turn on the pumps for some minutes to pump it out. I read the pumps did make a terrible noise...

Laughing Swordfish
08-28-05, 07:44 AM
I know what you mean Gammel.

All vessels leak to some extent, or eventually, but particularly when the water pressure is so great in a deep or prolonged dive, even without battle damage. The sea is constantly trying to find a way in, and always will

Aces of the Deep used to simulate this, and the Chief would give you a warning that you can't maintain the depth as the pumps aren't keeping up with the ingress of bilge water. So in that scenario, you were faced with the choice of raising the boat and making it more vulnerable, or starting to go inexhorably down.

The same sort of dilemma does appear in SH3 because you can't pump or make repairs, or reload without making a noise.

The trick is, I guess, to time those activities and camouflage the noise with the next destroyer run, ie secure from silent running during the destroyer's approach and attack, and the minutes of asdic 'vacuum' thereafter. But then judge when to go quiet again.

Of course in an emergency, there's nothing you can do but pump and clank away, and hope for the best

It's yet one more thing to think about, which is great, but I don't actually know if the game is modelled to represent the accumulative leakage that comes naturally from being under water

Lt de Bunsen, U-46