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Jail
08-25-05, 04:12 AM
I've googled and search for the sub that was at Skara summerland in Sweden.It is aprox 15 years ago, but I can't find any information.Still I can remmeber the tiny spaces inside the sub. My girlfriend at the time just looked at me with strange eyes when she saw that I had the time of my life going threw the boat and inspecting every inch of it. From my memory it looked very alike a VII class sub.Would have been great to figure out the U nr and type of boat.

Drebbel
08-25-05, 05:28 AM
Yep, I have been in USS Pampanito:
http://www.maritime.org/pamphome.htm

I loved the tour. Wanted to go again the other day. But my girlfriend forbid me :lol:

Crow
08-25-05, 05:38 AM
didn't you sound the dive alarm on the USS CAVALLA :rock:

thats a WWII sub too , no

OldFrenchy
08-25-05, 05:44 AM
Went to the Museum of Science & Industry jn Chicago in 1986 and toured the U-505. This was before I began playing computer games so I did not pay as much attention to details as I would today. It was odd to see a German U-boat in Chicago.

McBeck
08-25-05, 06:14 AM
Went on the Pampanito too. Great tour. Very well done restoration.
Would like to see the VIIC in Kiel one day

Happy Times
08-25-05, 06:39 AM
The submarine Vesikko(Otter) is in the Suomenlinna/Sveaborg sea fortress in Helsinki. http://uboat.net/boats/vesikko.htm and better pictures i found, http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=129 Its a shame its still outdoors,would be nice to get it in somewhere.

MatzeBosso
08-25-05, 06:53 AM
already visited U-995 / Type VII C (Laboe near Kiel)
and U-2540 / Type XXI (Bremerhaven)

Takeda Shingen
08-25-05, 06:58 AM
Visited USS Becuna (SS-319) in Philadelphia and U505 in Chicago.

Immacolata
08-25-05, 07:48 AM
Saw the corroded hull of U-534 as it lay on the docks of Grenaa, Denmark some years ago. Some newspaper magnate raised it in the hope of finding mad treasure and plunder. But I think he mostly got silt.

klh
08-25-05, 08:08 AM
I've had the privilege of touring U-505 in Chicago (multiple times) and U-534 in Birkenhead, both IXC's.

It would be a grand slam if I could have gone on the subclub's trip to Bremerhaven and Laboe.

1916
08-25-05, 08:30 AM
Yes! I forgot what it's called (the last time I went was maybe 5 years ago) if anyone knows, it's the one in Baltimore's Inner Harbor, the one with the tigershark on the front.

clive bradbury
08-25-05, 08:31 AM
U-534, Birkenhead.

clive bradbury
08-25-05, 08:31 AM
Oh, and the Holland I - first RN sub.

Adam Bailey
08-25-05, 08:41 AM
U-505 in Chicago
and
USS Cod in Cleveland (GO SEE THIS!)

" Today, Cod is one of the finest restored submarines on display and is the only U.S. submarine that has not had stairways and doors cut into her pressure hull for public access. Visitors to this proud ship use the same vertical ladders and hatches that were used by her crew."

Adam

george@CASE
08-25-05, 09:00 AM
OMG, I've been in Cleveland for two years and I always thought the USS COD was a ship (!) :o

shame on me :cry: better go visit it then :)

Drebbel
08-25-05, 09:02 AM
didn't you sound the dive alarm on the USS CAVALLA :rock:

thats a WWII sub too , no

Wasn't me :D

Bill Nichols
08-25-05, 10:06 AM
How about USS Batfish in, of all places, Muskogee, Oklahoma? :hmm:

http://www.ussbatfish.com/batfish-main.html

BettingUrlife
08-25-05, 10:08 AM
Australian war museum in Canberra has a Japanese mini sub there on display, pity you can't go inside it though.

Tim D
08-25-05, 10:36 AM
USS Pampanito in San Francisco, CA (2 times)
USS Bowfin in Pearl Harbor, HI (3 times)
USS Torsk in Baltimore, MD (2 times)
Thats it for boats. I have also been on a few WWII ships, most recent the USS Midway in San Diego. I did alot of work on the aircraft that are on board and installed all the inert/dummy ordnance that they display.

HEMISENT
08-25-05, 11:02 AM
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Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense
08-25-05, 11:08 AM
the USS Ling, in Jersey...

and the Growler (post wwii) in NY

--Mike

Gunfighter34
08-25-05, 12:07 PM
Been on the USS Drum (SS-228) in Mobile, Alabama when I was a kid and we visited the battleship USS Alabama (BB-60). On the website now (www.ussalabama.com) it shows the boat up on some kind of concrete pilings, but it seems to me that when I visited it it was in the water moored behind the battleship. This was early 1980s so it's been awhile.

Also been on the USS Clamagore (SS-343) at Patriot's Point here in Charleston. This was a late WWII commission that was then modified (several times, I suspect) and spent about thirty more years in active service.

Finally, was lucky enough to go on an active fast attack boat here some years back. It was a Sturgeon-class, pretty sure she was the USS Grayling but I can't remember 100%.

Carcassonne
08-25-05, 12:18 PM
Been on the USS Drum (SS-228) in Mobile, Alabama when I was a kid and we visited the battleship USS Alabama (BB-60). On the website now (www.ussalabama.com) it shows the boat up on some kind of concrete pilings, but it seems to me that when I visited it it was in the water moored behind the battleship. This was early 1980s so it's been awhile.

Also been on the USS Clamagore (SS-343) at Patriot's Point here in Charleston. This was a late WWII commission that was then modified (several times, I suspect) and spent about thirty more years in active service.

Finally, was lucky enough to go on an active fast attack boat here some years back. It was a Sturgeon-class, pretty sure she was the USS Grayling but I can't remember 100%.

Thanks for your post, this is the same sub I've been on myself and all I could remember is that it was in Mobile next to the Alabama. I was there summer of '2002 I believe....may have been 2001.

And yes the Drum was on concrete pillars when I visted it.

wetgoat
08-25-05, 06:08 PM
Been on the uss Razorback (late ww2 sub) in Little Rock Ar. right after it arrived , from being towed all the way from Turkey.

Hans Schultz
08-25-05, 06:19 PM
USS Clamagore, its now a Guppy III conversion.

Shadow9216
08-25-05, 07:36 PM
USS Pampanito, Bowfin, Torsk. BTW, the Cod rescued the crew of the Dutch sum O-1, and is still considered a vessel of the Dutch navy.

Onkel Neal
08-25-05, 07:47 PM
didn't you sound the dive alarm on the USS CAVALLA :rock:

thats a WWII sub too , no

Yeah, funny how he forgot about ol' Cavalla :cry:

geetrue
08-25-05, 08:01 PM
I,yours truly, reported aboard the USS Salmon SS 573 in April 1963. She was built in 1956 as a radar picket sub SSR. She was the worlds largest non nuclear submarine at 350' length, but their were two WWII subs alongside the pier in Ballast Point Sub Base San Diego 1960's era. I had a friend on the USS Catfish at the same time I was in and the USS Redfish was used for trainning and Hollywood movies.

It was fun (in hindsight) :lol:

kholemann
08-26-05, 08:57 AM
U.S.S. Drum and U-505 and though it don't count, some ex-Soviet Union Diesel-electric next to the Queen Mary.

Kapitän Cremer
08-26-05, 10:35 AM
Yeah...I saw the old VII C in Laboe, Kiel also....

Quite interesting since it was one of the few german subs who surived WW2 (Was'nt scuttled by the germans). Later it was given to the Norwegian navy as part of the war dept to Norway....

James31278
08-27-05, 12:46 AM
Just the USS Torsk in Baltimore.

Evil Duckie
08-27-05, 02:51 AM
USS Pampanito in SF and USS Becuna in Philly. Also the USS Hornet in Alameda and the Belfast in London (but obviously they're not subs).

By the way, the USS Cod rescued the crew of the O19, not O1. It's quite an interesting read actually:
http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_o19.htm

LukeFF
08-27-05, 07:08 AM
U-2540 in Bremerhaven, Germany and the USS Bowfin at Pearl Harbor.

Dowly
08-27-05, 07:34 AM
Too bad there are so few U-boats left today.... DAMN YOU OPERATION DEADLIGHT!!!! :-j

andy_311
08-27-05, 08:30 AM
U-534 in Birkinhead

hakkikt
08-27-05, 10:36 AM
USS Pampanito in San Francisco
And U-1, the very first sub of the Kriegsmarine (pre-WW1) in the Deutsches Museum in Munich. Ok you cannot enter it, but it is cut open and you stand a meter or two away from the interior.

Cpt.Nautilus
08-30-05, 03:18 PM
USS Pampanito, 2x. And a few other more modern subs in US and France.

And the CV Hornet in Alameda, twice too.

But the best of all times is the "Victory" in Portsmouth, UK: Nelson's ship at Trafalgar. A great visit, you have to see this.



By the ways, the correct quote is "Mobilis in mobile", not "mobili".

StdDev
08-30-05, 03:29 PM
didn't you sound the dive alarm on the USS CAVALLA :rock:

thats a WWII sub too , no

Wasn't me :D

SUUUuuuuuuuuure it wasnt you (http://204.115.170.104/avi/cavalla_incident.zip) Dreb....... :roll:

Nalcrom99
08-30-05, 07:45 PM
Been on the uss Razorback (late ww2 sub) in Little Rock Ar. right after it arrived , from being towed all the way from Turkey.

I have the pleasure of working in the City that the Razorback is docked in. Please note that's NORTH Little Rock, Arkansas (which is a separate municipality from LR).

I am a firefighter in NLR; we escorted the 394 upriver with our fireboat and saw it to dock on the north bank of the river. We also had the pleasure of spending about 16 hours practicing on how to remove a 300-pound fat girl with a broken hip from inside the boat by winching her up through the deck hatches.

The torpedo loading hatches, we decided, were not an option. They have braces installed across them.

....dangit, I can't figure out how to stick image files in these posts....



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lesrae
08-31-05, 01:26 AM
HMS Alliance at Gosport nearly counts (launched 1947) and the Holland 1. Intend visiting U534 soon.

Cpt.Nautilus
08-31-05, 01:38 AM
We also had the pleasure of spending about 16 hours practicing on how to remove a 300-pound fat girl with a broken hip from inside the boat by winching her up through the deck hatches.

The torpedo loading hatches, we decided, were not an option. They have braces installed across them.

Mixed pleasure...

What about using the torpedo tubes to actually launch her with compressed air?
;)

Woof1701
08-31-05, 03:16 AM
No real WW2 boats I'm afraid. :(

Only seen the "Das Boot" prop in Bavaria Studios Munich which is a 1:1 scale interior model that cannot be opened and can only be accessed through the aft torpedo room, the bow torpedo room and an access halfway through. Therefore the experience to a real sub is similar. Also had a look into U-1 in the "Deutsches Museum" also in Munich. It's been cut open, so you can't go inside but get a good impression on how damned crowded it was.

The only real boats I was inside were a Typ 206A class German uboat (U-9) in Speyer, Germany, which is much smaller than a Typ VII C.

http://www.mx-5-roadster.de/Speyer/images/a_U-9.jpg

http://www.mx-5-roadster.de/Speyer/images/a_U-9_zentrale2.jpg

http://www.mx-5-roadster.de/Speyer/images/a_U-9_zentrale1.jpg

They also have a German Mini uboat there which is hardly larger, than a torpedo.

http://www.mx-5-roadster.de/Speyer/images/a_04.jpg

And then there was a visit to a Russian Foxtrott in Greenwich, UK.

http://www.mx-5-roadster.de/London/L_sub.jpg

Nalcrom99
08-31-05, 06:37 AM
Mixed pleasure...

What about using the torpedo tubes to actually launch her with compressed air?
;)

Who knows. I'd have thought a 300-pound gal wouldn't fit in the tubes. During the training exercise, we got to wondering how someone that large would manage to get inside the boat in the first place. The tour starts by going into the bow hatch, and end coming out of the stern hatch. It's not exactly "disability friendly".

wetgoat
08-31-05, 05:20 PM
Sorry about the Little Rock, North Little Rock thing. I just heap all the metro together. Meant no offense. Never had this problem, since Hot Springs isn't half of a twin cities.

Zepheron
08-31-05, 07:17 PM
USS Lionfish: http://www.battleshipcove.org/index.htm

Nalcrom99
09-01-05, 06:47 AM
Sorry about the Little Rock, North Little Rock thing. I just heap all the metro together. Meant no offense. Never had this problem, since Hot Springs isn't half of a twin cities.

aww, heck, no offense was taken. I have to deal with a lot of out-of-state contacts at work; I usually whoop out the mock indignity when they fail to give us (NLR) our props. Most folks think we're a suburb of the capital. :up:

But hey, we've got our own submarine! And soon, our own tugboat. It won't be long until we're ready to launch a surprise attack on Maumelle just up the river.

On a related note: a year ago, when the mayor cooked up this submarine scheme, I told my oldest son (16 years) that he was also buying an aircraft carrier. He bought it, right up to the part where I was explaining that they would have to dismantle all of the highway bridges on the river to allow it to be towed up to NLR.

hakkikt
09-01-05, 07:12 AM
By the ways, the correct quote is "Mobilis in mobile", not "mobili".

Sorry pal, you got it wrong yourself. You might want to read the book.
http://verne.thefreelibrary.com/20000-Leagues-Under-The-Sea/1-8

Valtonen
09-01-05, 07:23 AM
Heres one in finland....(Pretty good pics)
http://nk.oulu.fi/enorssi/gallery1.5/album81


Made in finland 1933 to the germans, finland bought it back at 1936 and used it in WWII

Cpt.Nautilus
09-01-05, 01:31 PM
By the ways, the correct quote is "Mobilis in mobile", not "mobili".

Sorry pal, you got it wrong yourself. You might want to read the book.
http://verne.thefreelibrary.com/20000-Leagues-Under-The-Sea/1-8

I've read this book several times, in French (which happens to be my mother language). In my paper books, it's written "in mobile". (and here too: http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/v/verne/jules/v52vm/chapter8.html). A great book by the way!

By the way, this is latin, and "in mobili" doesn't mean anything in this language. "mobile" is the ablative case of "mobilis" and is required after the "in" preposition. (another similar latin locution is "in fine")

Therefore, I maintain that "in mobile" is the correct version. And someone has to tell the guys of the free library to correct the mispelling.

:know:

Cpt.Nautilus
09-01-05, 01:52 PM
Oh and I forgot about the sub in Paris. Not a WWII sub, but built in the 50s.

http://www.cite-sciences.fr/english/ala_cite/expo/argonaut/global_fs.htm

http://www.cite-sciences.fr/english/ala_cite/expo/argonaut/images/photo1.jpg

Wolfram
09-01-05, 02:12 PM
About three months ago - U995, at Laboe on Kieler Fjord...get a chance best way to visit is by taking the ferry was only 3,3 Euros at the time from the Bahnhof...this way you can draw in the image of a Uboat Kpt. as he heads to the Baltic.... :know:

:arrgh!:

The WosMan
09-01-05, 06:22 PM
Being in Cleveland, Ohio I have visited the USS Cod. It is near the rock-and-roll hall of fame on Erie Street. It is a pretty neat ship. Gato Class 312 feet long. Served 7 war patrols. If you have never been there than you can enjoy a virtual tour here http://www.usscod.org/spin.html There are also some cool pics of them loading her with cutaway mark 14 torpedos back in 1998 for the display. http://www.usscod.org/torpload.html

Davion77
09-01-05, 08:48 PM
If anyone is in Arkansas, they are building a Naval museum around the USS Razorback, a WW2 American sub. I dont know much about it, but things sure have changed.

Sharkstooth
09-01-05, 09:51 PM
Yes! I forgot what it's called (the last time I went was maybe 5 years ago) if anyone knows, it's the one in Baltimore's Inner Harbor, the one with the tigershark on the front.
@1916....... you mean this one?
http://www.sharkscage.com/sharkey/sharksteeth.jpg

**also bin to U505 and USS Cavalla

Wolfram
09-02-05, 08:15 AM
If anyone is in Arkansas, they are building a Naval museum around the USS Razorback, a WW2 American sub. I dont know much about it, but things sure have changed.

Whoa! A sub in Arkansas - how long has it been there?

:arrgh!:

rik007
09-02-05, 12:14 PM
Russian Foxtrot submarine, Zeebrugge. :know:

Iceberg
09-02-05, 08:44 PM
I visited the USS Pampanito in SF a few years ago and was in Chicago this spring but the U-505 exibit was still closed :damn:


Iceberg

Kissaki
10-18-05, 03:08 AM
Years ago, when visiting the Wasa museum in Stockholm, there was also a Russian WWII sub on display outside. I forget the type, sorry, but even when there was only about 10-20 of us mates inside it felt cramped enough. We never complained about bunk space again :D