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wynnstate101
08-17-05, 10:29 PM
I own a completely legitimate copy of sh3, but I can't play it on my 64 bit os. I would be willing to use the available fixed exe (even though I would never be able to patch it), but it doesn't work. I just get a black screen after I click of the shortcut with the fixed exe. Anybody know how to fix this?
Gizzmoe
08-17-05, 11:47 PM
This isn´t a support forum for cracked versions of SH3!
But are you really sure that you have the 64-bit version of Windows XP installed? :) There are people who think that their XP32 is now XP64 just because they own a Athlon 64 CPU...
stratege
08-18-05, 03:05 AM
Hello,
please, have a lok on this thread: http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=41011
You will find all the information you need .
What is that king of shared community if we started to behave like this :
This isn´t a support forum for cracked versions of SH3!
I own a completely legitimate copy of sh3
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 03:13 AM
What is that king of shared community if we started to behave like this :
This isn´t a support forum for cracked versions of SH3!
I own a completely legitimate copy of sh3
I think you have missed a part of his post:
"I would be willing to use the available fixed exe (even though I would never be able to patch it), but it doesn't work"
Guess what "fixed exe" means... The cracked v1.0, that´s why he also said that he "would never be able to patch it [to v1.4]". And apparently the crack doesn´t on his system.
stratege
08-18-05, 03:17 AM
yep Gizzmoe, have you read my thread .....
i am also talking about the no-cd issue for win 64 bits os. And i am myself fighting againts piracy, but sometimes, a tech testing need to be explored .... and a lot of tech explorations need to be done to have a clear understanting of winx64 issues.
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 03:22 AM
yep Gizzmoe, have you read my thread .....
i am also talking about the no-cd issue for win 64 bits os. And i am myself fighting againts piracy, but sometimes, a tech testing need to be explored .... and a lot of tech explorations need to be done to have a clear understanting of winx64 issues.
Let me quote a part of the Subsim forum policy:
"SUBSIM Review has a longstanding policy against software piracy. We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez, abandonware, peer-to-peer game swapping, illegal download sites, or rip-off websites. Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites. Don't ask for serial numbers, manuals, or cracks. Any admission that you have in your possession illegal software can and usually will result in revocation of your Radio Room forum account. Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work."
Let me quote a part of the Subsim forum policy:
"SUBSIM Review has a longstanding policy against software piracy. We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez, abandonware, peer-to-peer game swapping, illegal download sites, or rip-off websites. Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites. Don't ask for serial numbers, manuals, or cracks. Any admission that you have in your possession illegal software can and usually will result in revocation of your Radio Room forum account. Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work."
I'd love to see your reaction had you bought SHIII only to see it didn't work on your machine because Starforce prevented it Lord Knows Why (and you get no answer from customer support until 5 weeks later), Gizzmo.
It's very easy to critize another people for doing just the only thing they can in order to play their legally-purchased software, even if that means playing the crappy 1.0 version (now I'm playing with 1.4B and RUB this is a whole new world!!!), when you have never had a problem running yours.
But if you were stuck with that problem, I'd love to see wether you used the "no-DVD Fix" or not. I'm sure you would. To qualify that thing as "Illegal" is plain stupid. It's easy to critize anothers for doing anything in their hand to play a game they have payed for. At least is easy when you have had no such problem. But once you have it, then what would you do?. Return the game and lose the experience an amazing simulation as SHIII is?.
No way.
Anyway: He's paid for his game, so for heaven's sake, let him at least try to play it!!!!!.
stratege
08-18-05, 03:50 AM
errrr, yes, you are 100 % right.
But, i haven't posted any clue to find this, i beleive everybody knows the no-cd issue,
as i said before, this is only a matter of understanding the x64 issue.
furthermore, in this posted, i have made a clear statement:
o all:
- first, i am againts piracy, i i don't like no-cd stuff. SO, DON't EVEN THINK ASKING ME ANY FILES.
- second, this was a tech try, just to see how sh3 wil react to a real x64 operating system.
I think that our elders, like Avon Lady, terrapin and others members aknoledge my way of posting ..... ( am i :()1: here ?? )
so, now, that things are clear, could we simply talk about x64 issues....... like, yes, this is quiet a good os, yes, sh3 can be run on it, but, no, even if you own a legally purchased games, you wont be able to used it because of some x32 protected drivers ......
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 03:52 AM
But if you were stuck with that problem, I'd love to see wether you used the "no-DVD Fix" or not. I'm sure you would.
That´s not the point. The point is that it´s common sense that you don´t ask "The crack doesn´t work, what can I do?" in a legal forum! Neal Stevens has made the rules and we must accept them. That´s not so hard to understand, or is it?
stratege
08-18-05, 03:55 AM
yes, you are 100 % right.
+1
That´s not the point. The point is that it´s common sense that you don´t ask "The crack doesn´t work, what can I do?" in a legal forum! Neal Stevens has made the rules and we must accept them. That´s not so hard to understand, or is it?
No, Gizzmoe, it isn't hard to understand. But I think that it isn't too hard to understand that your answer was too harsh, either...
I guess that if he owns a legal copy of SHIII and he's trying to use the crack, there's a reason for it...that means the stock game doesn't work either.
So you can say "Hey, why don't you ask for help to play the game without the no-DVD thing? I ask it because we can't lend you any help if you try to run the game with the no-DVD .exe, as it is forbidden by the rules"...that way you're constructive ,friendly, and are actually offering your help while warning this is not a place to publicly discuss warez things...
but by saying:
"This isn´t a support forum for cracked versions of SH3!"
seems you're off to bite him!! :D.
I concur, this is not a place to ask for help with cracked versions of a game as there are rules that forbid it. However I know for experience (been able to play the game properly just since last Sunday) I can tell you that you get really desperate when you have a problem like this, and that you do whatever it takes to get it running. Sometimes you can even go too far and do really stupid things like asking in public how to avoid Starforce protection by toying with your registry...
At least, I was that stupid, and I did it :D.
What I mean is- don't be too harsh with him...there are ways to say things harshly and ways to say things friendly. I think you were a tad too harsh in your answer, maybe because you really don't know the feeling of paying for a game which doesn't work when it should... nothing else :)
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 04:26 AM
What I mean is- don't be too harsh with him...there are ways to say things harshly and ways to say things friendly.
It wasn´t too harsh, after all this really isn´t a support forum for cracked versions of SH3. I´m not really known in here for being unfriendly to anyone. But sometimes the truth can be harsh: Don´t ask illegal things.
wynnstate101
08-18-05, 04:45 AM
ILLEGAL THINGS?!?! I bought this game. What, exactly, is illegal about trying to play it by any means neccesary? I mean, come one, do you really expect me to just obediently return the game and come home and sit down, content that I should not be able to play it?
Nopileo
08-18-05, 04:58 AM
Don't worry, this happens every time this comes up. The lynch mob springs into action... ;) :P 'Innocent until proven guilty' does not apply in here. :ping:
ILLEGAL THINGS?!?! I bought this game. What, exactly, is illegal about trying to play it by any means neccesary? I mean, come one, do you really expect me to just obediently return the game and come home and sit down, content that I should not be able to play it?
As I see it, this is not a question of piracy. It's a simple matter of buying a round peg for a round hole. You have purchased a square peg for a round hole, and you're blaming the peg's designers because it won't fit. Either return the peg and get one that will fit, or buy the right hole for the peg.
Does it say on the box that you should be able to play it on your OS? If not, then buying the game was perhaps not the smartest decision. I would dearly like to play 'Destroy All Humans' on my PC, but it's only available for PS2 and X-Box. PC is not supported. If I went out and bought the X-Box version of the game, then tried to get it to work on my PC, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work. In that case buying the game would have been a poor decision on my part. It is not the game's fault, because the game says clearly that it's only meant to work on an X-Box. I'm sure you will find a similarly clear notice about OS compatibility on the SH3 box. Mine says:
"Supported OS: Windows XP/2000 (only)"
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
A Windows game requires Windows. It is a prerequisite for playing the game. Get Windows if you're determined to play it.
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 05:59 AM
ILLEGAL THINGS?!?! I bought this game. What, exactly, is illegal about trying to play it by any means neccesary? I mean, come one, do you really expect me to just obediently return the game and come home and sit down, content that I should not be able to play it?
At home you can do whatever you like, nobody in here cares about that. But as I wrote, questions about cracks are not allowed in this forum. If you didn´t know that yet, cracks are illegal in most countries.
stratege
08-18-05, 06:06 AM
ILLEGAL THINGS?!?! I bought this game. What, exactly, is illegal about trying to play it by any means neccesary? I mean, come one, do you really expect me to just obediently return the game and come home and sit down, content that I should not be able to play it?
As I see it, this is not a question of piracy. It's a simple matter of buying a round peg for a round hole. You have purchased a square peg for a round hole, and you're blaming the peg's designers because it won't fit. Either return the peg and get one that will fit, or buy the right hole for the peg.
Does it say on the box that you should be able to play it on your OS? If not, then buying the game was perhaps not the smartest decision. I would dearly like to play 'Destroy All Humans' on my PC, but it's only available for PS2 and X-Box. PC is not supported. If I went out and bought the X-Box version of the game, then tried to get it to work on my PC, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work. In that case buying the game would have been a poor decision on my part. It is not the game's fault, because the game says clearly that it's only meant to work on an X-Box. I'm sure you will find a similarly clear notice about OS compatibility on the SH3 box. Mine says:
"Supported OS: Windows XP/2000 (only)"
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
A Windows game requires Windows. It is a prerequisite for playing the game. Get Windows if you're determined to play it.
Yes, you are right....
... but, it doesn not say windows XP 32 bits only.
The winx64 i get from microsoft is labelled:
"windows xp pro 64 edition" wich may be confusing.
Let me explain my point of vue.
What is windows XP. I DON"T KNOW, this product does not exist !!!!
Windows XP family edition exist.
Windows XP PRO edition exist.
I know this is all semantics here, but i don't see ( ignoring technical knoledge here ) a big difference between le two last sentences and:
Windows XP PRO edition 64.
Considering :
- that we are only a few to have a real knowledge of the main differences between the three editions of windows xp,
- the advertissement made about the retro-compability between 64 bits os and 32 bits operating systems using the emt64 registry system
I firmly beleive sh3 should be compatible with ANY xp products. Some games are clearly showing "requieres win98, win XP family or pro to be run'
As i said before, this is only semantics.
Know, i you read back my thread, you will see that sh3 is winx64 compatibles. This is not the games wich is not compatible, this is simply a small part of the anti-piracy software.
To finish my sentances here, you were right, but also, ubosoft claim about XP compatible and 2000 system only is unclear !!!!!
If you look at microsoft products layout, all the XP editions are part of the sameproduct family.
xp family, xp pro, xp 64 edition are the same thing (supposely)....
kiwi_2005
08-18-05, 06:43 AM
wynnstate101 They are right although i understand the problem you are having but putting your problem on this website will only get you band or your thread locked.
What im guessing is you installed the game and out of frustration the game wont load so u tried the C***K but not even that worked?
Dont ask questions like this on subsim unless you wanna get slammed and depthcharged. For all the help try the forums at EDIT they will sovle your problem and even show you how to disable starforce for good! :D
Good luck in getting your game running[/b]
Mod: STRIKE 1
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 06:46 AM
For all the help try the forums at <bad, bad link!> they will sovle your problem and even show you how to disable starforce for good! :D
Good luck in getting your game running[/b]
"Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites." ;)
stratege
08-18-05, 06:50 AM
OK, NOW THIS IS REALLY SUPPORTING PIRACY.
THIS IS REALLY BAD TO GIVE LINKS.
talking like me about testing sh3 with a winx64 and founding/reporting behaviors is already seen as an bad act, but you did the bad jobs.
PLEASE, DO NOT DO IT AGAIN.
If you didn´t know that yet, cracks are illegal in most countries.
For me SHIII works a treat with basic XP, asside from the occasional ctd. But for my '2pence' the only consistent game I play online is Medal of Honor Spearhead. I got this game with the official Medal of Honor 'War Chest' collection to replace the original single disks which were all scratched and knackard (Allied Assult/Spearhead/Breakthrough). Having paid around 30 quid for this and having my system meet the requirement for the game specs, I was very dissapointed to discover that both Spearhead & Breakthrough will not run with the game CD's- repeat error: please insert the correct disk into CD drive!
So, having bought a legal copy of the game from a licenced store I find that the only way to get my legally purchased game to run on my (game spec. conforming) pc, was to resort to 'other alternatives' failing that give my favourite online game back and get a refund, then use my refund to go and buy some baige socks to go with the open-toed sandals that I should now be wearing :shifty:
Quite who is at fault here concerning the games lack of functionality, I do not rightly know. But I know this: If I wanna play it I have to bend the rules slightly and given that I have done everything straight up and honestly obtaining the game in the first place, I fail to see what other recourse was left me- other than to not play.
Piracy is wrong, but so is releasing a defective product and expecting people who bought it not to try and 'fix' the game so it does work for them on machines which adhere to the manufacturer's system/region specification. The fact that some of us have to resort to frowned upon methods is indicative of the more worrying problem of manufacturers expecting joe-public to bend over, spread 'em and take it all the way up with a stiff upper lip and not complain when a product doesn't work; or expect the product to be returned to the manufacturer for the defects to be fixed. You wouldn't expect a new car to not be supplied with the right ignition key, so why should supposedly 'final release' software to be any different?
[/rant over] ;)
@ kiwi_2005
DON'T POST LINKS TO PLACES LIKE THAT DUDE, IT'S A SURE FIRE WAY TO GET BANNED IF YOU DO... IF NEEDS BE, KEEP IT OUT OF THE FORUM AND DISCUSS IT ELSEWHERE
...I just get a black screen after I click of the shortcut with the fixed exe. Anybody know how to fix this?
maybe the your modified .exe file works ok, but the game refuses to play the intro video... :hmm:
most video codecs are 32bit only, as far as i know.
Try disabling the intro video (there are solutions how to do somewere here in the forum)
My suggestion:
Make a dual OS install.
1. 32bit MS os (best win2k)
2. 64 bit winXP
kiwi_2005
08-18-05, 07:09 AM
That site i gave does not support piracy they are clearly against it! I cannot see what is all the FUSS ABOUT helping a guy that has trouble with installing a game with that mongrel Starforce. Who cares anyhow theres a way of disabling starforce so ubisoft romaina wasted there time! HA!
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 07:13 AM
That site i gave does not support piracy they are clearly against it!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Thanks for the good laugh!
:roll:
kiwi_2005
08-18-05, 07:34 AM
:D :up: at least your got a sense of humor. No but its true they dont. They even give a warning that they are against copying and before you enter there site you should know this. Put it this way, ring a mircosoft tech and ask him can or does he know of a way to get around a starforce protected cd. They will be happily to give you advice. Trying to make your game run and get around starforce is not illegal.
I can't see what all the fuss is about, im not helping the guy to dl a copy of sh3 or anything like that. Here at my work we all use C**Ks so we can protect our orignals. Its a common thing.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Thanks for the good laugh!
:roll:
they have a pretty big disclaimer in their start page saying that the page itself and it's contents are to be used only by those who are legal owners of the games they download cracks for...and it's indeed used by many legal customers who simply don't want to be changing CDs all day long to start the games they own. I have been one of them several times in the past. And to be true, if there was a no-DVD crack for SHIII v1.4b, I would be using it right now. And I'm a legal customer and owner of SHIII.
So no, IMO, that's not an illegal site as they don't support piracy. That many people who use it are pirates is not their fault...then again, we all know there are many more places to get no-CD cracks ,and much easier than that way, than on web pages so in the end who cares...
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 07:50 AM
No but its true they dont.
Yeah, you can download thousands of cracks there, but they are against piracy... :roll:
Trying to make your game run and get around starforce is not illegal.
Maybe not in NZ, but, for example, in Germany and the US it is.
Regarding my sense of humor... I hope they kick you out. If, for some reasons, the moderators don´t see this thread I´ll send them a message by tomorrow morning, just to make sure that they see what you wrote. In addition I´ll point them to the "edit the registry to circumvent SF" post that you wrote a few days ago. We will see what happens then. I see it as my duty as a Subsim moderator to report this, even if it´s not "my" forum.
Maybe not in NZ, but, for example, in Germany and the US it is.
Illegal definiert sich meiner Auffassung nach dadurch, daß ein Tatbestand bzw. Sachverhalt strafrechtlich verfolgt wird oder werden kann.
Beispiel: Drogenbesitz, Körperverletzung, Diebstahl
Umgehung der Kopiersperre urheberrechtlich geschützter Werke wird in der Bundesrepublik nicht strafrechtlich verfolgt (Sofern es sich um eine Privatperson handelt), kann daher nicht als illegal bezeichnet werden.
Außerdem interessant:
Gelten die Kopierschutz-Umgehungsverbote auch für Software-Produkte ?
Ein klares NEIN.
Gemäß § 69 a Abs.5 UrhG finden die Umgehungsverbote auf Software keine Anwendung. D.h. es darf weiterhin die übliche Sicherheitskopie der Original-CD gefertigt werden.
In der Praxis wird diese Unterscheidung jedoch zu erheblichen Abgrenzungs-Problemen führen. So hat z.B. die Mehrzahl der heutigen Computerspiele zumeist umfangreiche Musik- und Film-Dateien mit auf der CD, für die eigentlich die Umgehungsverbote wieder Anwendung finden würden. Was nun für diese Fälle gilt, ist unklar.
Es dürfte sich jedoch die Ansicht durchsetzen, dass die rechtliche Beurteilung nach dem maßgeblichen Teil des Produktes (Schwerpunkt) erfolgt. Bei einem Computerspiel wäre dies im Regelfall also das ablauffähige Programm und nicht das musikalische oder filmische Beiwerk, so dass hier die Software-Vorschriften Anwendung finden würden.
Quelle:
http://www.dr-bahr.com/faq/faq_neuesurheberrecht.php#Fragen%20zum%20neuen%20U rheberrecht_id2
Fazit: schwierige Rechtslage in Deutschland, aber keinesfalls illegal.
Sorry, this posting is only available in german. It´s about the new copy protection law we have in germany since 2003 and the definition of illegal in general. It´s mainly adressed to Gizzmoe.
Ask terrapin for translation :-j
edit:
@ Gizzmoe
Bitte dieses Posting nicht als persönlichen Angriff verstehen, auch möcht ich mich nicht weiter in eure Diskussion (Streit) hier einmischen. Das es aber bei uns im Lande Illegal sei, einen no-cd Patch für sein gekauftes Produkt zu benutzen, konnt ich aber nicht so stehen lassen. So weit sind wir (noch) nicht. Zivilrechtlich sieht die ganze Sache natürlich anders aus, aber wo kein Kläger, da kein Richter. ;)
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 08:52 AM
Umgehung der Kopiersperre urheberrechtlich geschützter Werke wird in der Bundesrepublik nicht strafrechtlich verfolgt (Sofern es sich um eine Privatperson handelt), kann daher nicht als illegal bezeichnet werden.
Ok, dann zumindest in den USA, dort regelt es der Digital Millenium Copyright Act. Ich würde es allerdings in Deutschland nicht darauf ankommen lassen und beispielsweise Cracks online veröffentlichen oder darauf verlinken. Da schlägt dann wie in manchen bekannten Fällen das Zivilrecht (erfolgreich) zu. Mir ist es herzlich egal, ob der Staat mich verklagt oder ein Unternehmen, Scheisse ist es in beiden Fällen. :)
John Channing
08-18-05, 10:52 AM
READ THE FAQ
Neal's policy on this is clear. If you are still in doubt about why then...
READ THE FAQ.
JCC
ps READ THE FAQ
Cdre Gibs
08-18-05, 10:52 AM
Nobody likes a stooly
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 10:56 AM
What´s a "stooly"?
Gizzmoe
08-18-05, 11:19 AM
Nobody likes a stooly
Ok, now I know... A "snitch". You mean me! How kind. Well... <shrug> I don´t like people who simply don´t give a **** about the rules over and over again.
John Channing
08-18-05, 11:49 AM
Nobody likes a stooly
Ok, now I know... A "snitch". You mean me! How kind. Well... <shrug> I don´t like people who simply don´t give a **** about the rules over and over again.
No one snitched, I happened upon this charming discussion all on my own. You just never know when a Moderator is going to show up.
And to Gizzmoe... a great big THANK-YOU for your help.
JCC
Onkel Neal
08-18-05, 09:59 PM
they have a pretty big disclaimer in their start page saying that the page itself and it's contents are to be used only by those who are legal owners of the games they download cracks for...and it's indeed used by many legal customers who simply don't want to be changing CDs all day long to start the games they own. I have been one of them several times in the past. And to be true, if there was a no-DVD crack for SHIII v1.4b, I would be using it right now. And I'm a legal customer and owner of SHIII.
So no, IMO, that's not an illegal site as they don't support piracy. That many people who use it are pirates is not their fault...then again, we all know there are many more places to get no-CD cracks ,and much easier than that way, than on web pages so in the end who cares...
Hi Ram,
We have no way of knowing if a guy is telling the truth when he says he has to use cracks and hacks to play a game. But don't laugh at me when I point out that most people play the game without these things. I've never had to resort to that and I've played literally hundreds of games. Of course, there are exceptions--some guy is going to buy a game and blasted luck will keep it from working. I sympathize with him, but as the Register Agreement of this forum states, the Subsim forum is not the place to discuss hacks, no DVD cracks, serial number workarounds, etc. We do encourage tips such as driver info, config settings, normal setup stuff. I'll be honest, it's hard to draw the line perfectly; still, if we open up this box, it sends the wrong message and probably will invite the wrong people to say the wrong things. We ask for you and everyone's voluntary assistance on this forum to honor the rules.
thanks
Neal
Neal:
First of all thanks for this great page. :rock:
Probably you don't remember me from the old forums, but I've been around for a long time. I do understand the need for the rules as they are on the forum right now. I've seen by myself what happens in a forum where open discussions about hacks, cracks, etc, is allowed, and I won't like that kind of people roaming free around here.
I admit I have gone too far by myself on another thread some days ago when I was still stuck with v1.0 and a thread with some starforce-circunvent advices was active. And that I have been stuck with the original version for more than one month because issues which are not my fault at all, makes me sympathize with anyone who has similar problems. I really was expecting for summer to come so I could be at home to buy and play SHIII (can't do with my laptop as the graphics card isn't compatible with the game requirements). You can imagine how I felt when I found out the game won't even start...
That's not an excuse. The rules are what they are and I really went over the top there. Have said I'm sorry about that, and I say it again...but...
Seem, while I'm in full agreement of the rules of the board, I'm for a more ample interpretation of them. What do I mean?...well, if someone comes like on this thread saying "hey SHIII doesn't work even if I put a no-DVD crack on it" I think the best way to answer is not "dude, go away, we don't help people who use cracks here"... something along the lines of "try it without the crack and we will gladly help, as the rules say that no-DVD crack issues can be discussed here" would be much better...
I know for sure that many people around here didn't try to help me with my problem with starforce for the simple reason I was using a crack to play, at least, the v1.0. Many others did indeed try to help me (and I thank them for it). We've seen that the guy who started the thread has got little ,very little, of true advice.
I'm all for the rules as they are set, and for not allowing discussions about cracks, but I'm all,too, for treating people as innocent customers instead of pirates.
I know piracy is very damaging for games like SHIII, but we can't go into a ortodox frency of thinking "if you're using a crack, that's because you don't own the original" each time someone asks for help and admits is using a crack to play the game because it won't run otherwise.
My main problem is not with the rules of the board. They are clear and they have good reasons to exist. My problem is with people who not only won't try help anyone forced to use a crack while being a legal customer, but they actually fall very short of saying "pi$$ off, dude, this's not the place"... or who will say that they will try to get someone banned because they have different thoughts on a given webpage than the one who linked it. I know they have good interests, but,well, I don't like radical attitudes in any way...
In short: I'd like to see a more open-minded interpretation of a set of rules I understand fully.
But that's just me :).
Hope that what I've written is understandable...my english is getting terribly rusty because of lack of use...
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