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cathode
08-08-05, 07:45 PM
Hi all

Just got jumped by another swarm of Sunderlands, and once again they couldn't get out of each other's way to get to me...

First these two bumped...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/PDPhotography/anothertwobump.jpg

Then THREE came to grief midair...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/PDPhotography/doh1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/PDPhotography/doh2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/PDPhotography/doh4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/PDPhotography/doh5.jpg

It was like a destructive aerial ballet.

cathode
SteamWake
08-08-05, 07:50 PM
Looks like the RAF had a rough day.
satmax
08-08-05, 10:08 PM
'Ooooooooooooooo'


'Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh'


*claps*
Knotical
08-09-05, 01:32 AM
LOL, swarm of Sunderlands. Im sure that really happened about 0.0 times during the entire battle of the Atlantic. This game had more reasonable air power in the out of the box condition (vs. 1.4b) didn't it?

Looking at the pics it appears they can dish out some serious depth charge hurt though. I've only seen Hurricanes so far in my carrer (early 41), but the formation ASW aircraft hunts is totally un-realistic.

Did you live or is your boat in the center of that devestation?
gdogghenrikson
08-09-05, 01:39 AM
funny
Catfish
08-09-05, 01:43 AM
Hello,
apart from the planes colliding in midair i had a PBY (Catalina) in 1941 (ok there already WERE some PBYs) that dived to drop its bomb - can you imagine a Catalina diving like a "Stuka" and level off at 30 metres ? Looked weird to say at least.
And to have more than one plane patrolling is completely wrong. Usually ONE plane would patrol its grid, and only call in for reenforcement if the boat a) would not submerge after attack and b) if the plane would not have been able to destroy the boat alone. There were never two Sunderlands, Liberators or B17s, maybe two Hudsons or several smaller planes near an airbase. Even with complete air superiority at the end of the war the allies never had enough planes to make one patrol for a small grid with multiple planes. Maybe we could change that ?
Greetings,
Catfish
Capn Tucker
08-09-05, 02:57 AM
Hello,
apart from the planes colliding in midair i had a PBY (Catalina) in 1941 (ok there already WERE some PBYs) that dived to drop its bomb - can you imagine a Catalina diving like a "Stuka" and level off at 30 metres ? Looked weird to say at least.
And to have more than one plane patrolling is completely wrong. Usually ONE plane would patrol its grid, and only call in for reenforcement if the boat a) would not submerge after attack and b) if the plane would not have been able to destroy the boat alone. There were never two Sunderlands, Liberators or B17s, maybe two Hudsons or several smaller planes near an airbase. Even with complete air superiority at the end of the war the allies never had enough planes to make one patrol for a small grid with multiple planes. Maybe we could change that ?
Greetings,
Catfish

Not entirely true. I've read numerous fates of boats on uboat.net, and quite a few read: " sunk by Coastal Command Liberator and USAAF Liberator, etc etc".
But even that is usually no more than two planes at once...
Salvadoreno
08-09-05, 03:12 AM
fact is coastal command never did aquire a lot of planes during the war. Most of the excerpts from these books i read are from single planes radioing DDs to the position last seen. Of course thats after the plane attacked. When two planes attack uboats the boats are usually trying to be boarded or are heavily damaged surfaced...
cathode
08-09-05, 05:42 AM
Knotical, I did survive. This was all taking place some distance from my sub's location.

It is pretty crazy to see this number of aircraft together. Maybe to make up for the plane's gnerally poor bombing skills the devs chose quantity over quality.

They enemy aircraft don't appear smart enough to lay bombs/depth charges along the target sub's last track. Instead they'll just hammer one spot on the ocean.

cathose
Grifter808
08-09-05, 05:50 AM
Those pilots need glasses :o
SmokinTep
08-09-05, 06:05 AM
:lol: :lol:
stratege
08-09-05, 06:15 AM
Those pilots need glasses :o


...or had to much of them ... like red or white .... i actually prefer Rosee. :rotfl:
Kpt. Lehmann
08-09-05, 08:48 AM
LOL!

Nice fireworks though.
Myszkin
08-09-05, 08:49 AM
Where are black boxes? Who know? :hmm:
Nopileo
08-09-05, 11:08 AM
Having problems with 'a few' aircraft as well. This is in Sept. 1944 in the 'channel' between Ireland and England (had some fun with a convoy there). There are 8 aircraft in this pic, and there were a few more around as well:

http://home.online.no/~bjoohe/pics/sh/squad200.jpg

Amazingly, none of them crashed though.

I can't remember if this was before or after installing RUb, but RUb should take of the high number of aircraft, right? So this is probably before.
Laughing Swordfish
08-09-05, 10:33 PM
Do it again Daddy!!
rik007
08-10-05, 12:11 AM
Nice moment to surface... I would have done that for sure! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
nattydread
08-10-05, 12:24 AM
Must be Sunderland mating season...those randy male Sundies are always puffing up and head bunting each other.
CCIP
08-10-05, 12:26 AM
I can't remember if this was before or after installing RUb, but RUb should take of the high number of aircraft, right? So this is probably before.

1.43?

I should hope it's before it. If it IS in 1.43 though... I'ma have to bring this one to Egan's attention :hmm:
Nopileo
08-10-05, 04:11 AM
I can't remember if this was before or after installing RUb, but RUb should take of the high number of aircraft, right? So this is probably before.

1.43?

I should hope it's before it. If it IS in 1.43 though... I'ma have to bring this one to Egan's attention :hmm:

Just checked another picture taken about the same time. It says 'Enemy unit destroyed', so RUb is not installed here.
CCIP
08-10-05, 09:35 AM
phew :|\

I'd say the only real chances of seeing more than 1 or 2 planes at a time in 1.43 are if you're smack in the middle of the Irish Sea - and even then!...
c0sm1c
08-10-05, 09:46 AM
Kewl pics -- I wish the aircraft did that everytime it found meh :yep:
Nopileo
08-10-05, 10:47 AM
phew :|\

I'd say the only real chances of seeing more than 1 or 2 planes at a time in 1.43 are if you're smack in the middle of the Irish Sea - and even then!...

(Sorry for hijacking the thread again, cathode)

I just finished my first patrol with RUb 1.43, and I didn't see a single aircraft. My patrol zone was AM68 (in the middle of the Irish sea I think? Not too familiar with the names of the oceans).

But, while I was cruising on the surface close to there, I got a 'Detecting radar signals'-message, and hit . immediately (yes, still playing with external cam). It was an aircraft. I went to periscope depth and waited, but no plane ever came over me.

So thanks to RUb and all it's participants (especially the improved late radar detector of Jungman's), the game has finally become playable even in late war (I'm in Oct. 1944).

The only thing I miss now is a radar detector and radar that will work on the snorkel of the XXI. :ping: