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JBClark
09-20-05, 09:56 PM
I finally got around to reading this book (Shadow Divers) and must recommend it to you guys. :up:

Please forgive this long-winded discourse. "Shadow Divers" got me so fired up that I have to share my reaction. If you want to stop reading here, I won't be insulted, just read the book. It's very, very good.

Of my many quirks, one of the oldest and least harmful is my compulsion to read while taking a meal. Breakfast and lunch are not complete without a newspaper, and when dining alone I have to have a book to go along with my supper.

The other night, as dinner was coming together around 22:00 (the civilized time for the evening meal) I found myself without a current book. I had just finished Neal Stevenson's excellent series "The Baroque Cycle" - and I heartily recommend that as well. So there was dinner, but nothing to read.

Well, I wasn't worried. My apartment looks like an old bookstore with thousands and thousands of titles in shelves and piled up on every flat surface. My "Read this Next" pile is taller than I am. There was plenty to choose from.

Dinner was starting to cool so I needed to decide fast. I was wavering between Joseph Balkoski's "Beyond the Beachhead" (an account of the 29th Infantry Division's heroic but short lived efforts in Normandy [the 29th was my father's outfit and my brother made major in it just before it disbanded]) and the subject of this post: Robert Kurson's "Shadow Divers."

My choice was random, and obvious from the topic of this thread. From the first page I did nothing that couldn't be done with one hand while holding this book in the other. What I ate that night is a mystery to me. When I had to pee, I carried out the necessary maneuvers one-handed. I did sleep from 05:00 to 08:00 but I dreamed about diving and when I woke, I read for another few hours before I got out of bed. It is quite possible that I slept in my clothes. Other than those three hours of sleep I did nothing but read until I was finished with this delightful book. I took the day off from work because of this book.

This has not happend to me in a long time.

"Shadow Divers" has everything that a reader of this forum would like. It centers around a U-boat. The writing is crisp and compelling. Kurson masterfully weaves the obsession of the divers in the 1990s with the obsessions of the crew in the 1940s. The central theme is about historical accuracy, its virtues, and its elusiveness. The story is captivating and suspensefull. And it is TRUE.

This forum and its members have kept me playing SHIII well beyond the time I would have been bored with the stock game. You guys love history and live for accuracy. "Shadow Divers" is about a few psychotic individuals who were lots crazier than you guys (us guys.) These men literally risked their lives to prove a point about historical accuracy.

Since I found this forum I have been enjoying diatribes on deck gun loading times, manifestos on visibility in the north Atlantic, obsessive quests for TOEs and many other examples of psychologically questionable behavior. I have loved it all.

You guys will find more of this kind of dedication in "Shadow Divers." Read this book!

But don't start it if you have to go to work the next morning.

JBC

Kpt. Lehmann
09-21-05, 02:01 AM
I bought that book two weeks ago and haven't had time to read it.
I can't wait now! I bought it after seeing (and recording) a history channel special on U-869. (For those not up-to-speed... it is the subject of "Shadow Divers."

All through the show... I imagined myself being on that U-boat and being part of its fate.

I will never forget the name, Martin Horenburg.

If they make a movie about U-869... you can find me in the front row.

Beery
09-21-05, 07:06 AM
All his war movies are spot on, mixing realisim with hollywood cool stuff...

Black Hawk Down was awful. He completely missed the point of the book, and cut out all references to the NATO (mostly Canadian) abuses that led up to the situation in Somalia. Apparently he got the movie made by collaborating with the US military, and it shows. What he made was a watered-down and context-free military-approved whitewash of the whole affair. It was sickening.

Don't get me wrong. I used to revere Ridley Scott as a moviemaking genius. The Duellists and Alien were incredibly good, and Blade Runner was great although flawed by some very poor post-production work. But recently, with pulp commercial tripe like Gladiator and Black Hawk Down, I fear he's sold out. I think the appalling White Squall sent him off the rails.

jason10mm
09-21-05, 07:59 AM
Well, I guess some of us are going to have to agree to disagree about Scott's latest efforts ("Kingdom of Heaven" was made well, but the plot and dialogue were terrible, BHD is a classic of the genre).

I've seen "Shadow Divers" at my local used bookstore, guess I will have to pick it up next time I am there.

Egan
09-21-05, 08:02 AM
He will have to go a long way to beat the pretty simple but brilliant FX in Das Boot.

Like those scenes where the inside of the boat is being shaken about by the Depth charges? They cut away a small section of the set and set up a camera just outside it that was completely still - all that crazy rocking and shaking was actually happening to the set and crew - the camera didn't move at all....talk about suffering for your art!

JBClark
09-21-05, 10:18 AM
Yeah guys,

I have to agree about Scott. The earlier stuff was great but after that it sucked. I don't care if he makes a movie of this book or not. I was commenting on the book.