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Onkel Neal
08-06-24, 05:12 PM
Now that things have settled down a bit, who do you think will win? Not who you want to win (although those are usually the same), but who do you think will come out of all the hit ads, October surprises, and sketchy balloting maneuvers with the "win" in Nov?

Aktungbby
08-07-24, 11:39 AM
....the poll is currently in a dead heat. Picking 'Minnesota Nice' leftest Wolz over Pennsylvania's Governor Shapiro has caused pro-Palistinians around 'Merika to declare victory of sorts over the Jewish Mr. Shapiro...even though Wolz is generally equally supportive of Israel. My own guess is: Kamela is mindful of Minnesotan Vice Presidents under Texan Lyndon B. Johnson (Hubert Humphrey) and Georgian Jimmy Carter(Walter 'Fritz' Mondale)'s respective contributions to the Democratic ticket and hopes the 'third time will be the charm' on her ticket too.:hmmm:

em2nought
08-07-24, 07:20 PM
Kamela is mindful

Haha! :D Since taking shenanigans into account was mentioned I chose the leftist media darlings in this poll, but I'm voting IRL for the guy they're shooting at.

les green01
08-07-24, 08:38 PM
I got to go with Trump

HW3
08-07-24, 08:53 PM
I'm like em2nought. I picked Harris because with the MSM and the Justice Department behind her she can't lose, they will coverup any shenanigans that are pulled, and do a better job of it this time, and Trump will lose again I'm afraid.

Ostfriese
08-07-24, 11:30 PM
Did I get this right: the election will only have been a fair one if Trump wins?

les green01
08-08-24, 04:18 AM
Did I get this right: the election will only have been a fair one if Trump wins?

That's the problem both sides going to be finger pointing and people going to be protesting it's a two ring circus been that way since 2012

Onkel Neal
08-08-24, 06:37 AM
I'm like em2nought. I picked Harris because with the MSM and the Justice Department behind her she can't lose, they will coverup any shenanigans that are pulled, and do a better job of it this time, and Trump will lose again I'm afraid.

That's a very real possibility.

em2nought
08-08-24, 04:25 PM
For sure mules won't be carrying their cell phones this time when they drop off boxes of ballots. :03:

vienna
08-08-24, 07:48 PM
the curious thing about the polls thus far...

The DEM candidate drops out and Trump gets no real boost in the polls;

The DEMs put Harris up as their candidate and Trump gets no real boost in the polls;

The DEMs have a candidate who is the first woman to run for POTUS who is also non-white and Trump gets no real boost in the polls;

Trump gets shot at and the expected 'sympathy bump' fails to appear and Trump gets no real boost in the polls;

The Trump campaign goes full court press of the DEMs and Harris and the most recent polls are showing not only is Trump not gaining at all among voters, he's actually losing ground when compared to his numbers versus Biden...

Seems like no matter what Trump, his minions, and his GOP lemmings do, they can't budge that needle...

All in all, not a ringing situation for Trump...

Kind of makes you wonder what will happen if there is an "October Surprise" forthcoming...

Oh, and there also remains to be seen the effect of Trump's upcoming hush money sentencing in September on the polls; and remember, the crimes Trump committed were before he was elected and are not covered by Presidential immunity, even under the SCOTUS ruling...



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Jimbuna
08-09-24, 06:29 AM
Are those the 34 felonies you're referring to?

Bilge_Rat
08-09-24, 06:43 AM
It will be close, but at this point, I would give Trump a 60/40 chance of winning.

Let’s face it, at this point, pretty much every registered voter in the USA already knows who they will vote for. If 34 felony criminal convictions failed to move the needle at all, I don’t see what will.

mapuc
08-09-24, 06:55 AM
Oh, and there also remains to be seen the effect of Trump's upcoming hush money sentencing in September on the polls; and remember, the crimes Trump committed were before he was elected and are not covered by Presidential immunity, even under the SCOTUS ruling...



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I got the impression that a candidate's verdict is being postponed after the election or after his term if he wins.

I could be wrong, however I seem to recall having read this among all the stuff I have read on the subject-Can a felony be President ?

On these 34 felonies BBC write following

It is possible, though highly unlikely, that Trump will serve time behind bars.
The 34 charges he faced are all class E felonies in New York, the lowest tier in the state. Each charge carries a maximum sentence of four years.
As noted above, there are several reasons why Justice Merchan could choose a lesser punishment, including Trump’s age, his lack of previous convictions, and the fact that the charges involve a non-violent crime.
He could consider Trump's violations of the court’s gag orders during the trial.
It is also possible that the judge would weigh the unprecedented nature of the case, perhaps choosing to avoid putting a former president and current candidate behind bars.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crgg4kv0682o

Markus

Armistead
08-09-24, 01:36 PM
Another election if Trump loses it will be Trump beating Trump, but I think he wins. I just think in the end people know who Harris is and how far left she will go, especially with Walz, no matter how they try to remarket her. People just don't want another 10 million illegals and giving them free everything when people are suffering so bad under inflation. Tis crazy, Trump leads her by double digits on the top issues that matter to people, yet Harris now leads in national polls.

vienna
08-10-24, 02:27 PM
Are those the 34 felonies you're referring to?


Yes, indeed; when he is sentenced, he will then be a full-fledged convicted felon and his wriggle room essentially becomes a straitjacket; he will most certainly appeal the convictions, but he or his lawyers can't argue the evidence since that has already been established by the jury's decision; he ca try to seek a new trial by arguing prosecutorial or judicial misconduct but if he didn't bring that issue up in the course of the trial (which he didn't) , that's a bit of a long shot...


I got the impression that a candidate's verdict is being postponed after the election or after his term if he wins.

I could be wrong, however I seem to recall having read this among all the stuff I have read on the subject-Can a felony be President ?

On these 34 felonies BBC write following



https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crgg4kv0682o

Markus


The verdict was postponed due to the lower court waiting on the decision of SCOTUS on Trump's immunity claims; given the nature and substance of the SCOTUS decision, Trump's claims of immunity are moot since the crimes he committed were when Trump was still just a private citizen and, therefore Presidential immunity simply does not apply; once the SCOTUS decision came down, the case was returned to the trial Judge who has decided to impose sentences on September 18; it will be indeed interesting to see the possibility/probability of Trump having a major meltdown...

It is my understanding a defendant in a criminal case must be present during their sentencing; if so, Trump is facing a rather uncomfortable photo op; and media networks and outlets, of all stripes, are arguing for the 'right' to broadcast the proceedings live; remember, once a defendant is sentenced, the now criminal must go through a series of processes immediately afterwards akin to being booked all over again; don't think the GOP is looking forward to that spectacle...




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Catfish
08-10-24, 02:29 PM
The question was who will be president, not who you like to win :D

I cannot imagine Trump getting a majority so i chose Harris, however the first time I could not imagine someone like Trump being elected and was wrong :03:

mapuc
08-10-24, 02:38 PM
I picked Trump 'cause I think he's going to win.

I'm an outsider, which mean I have no impact on the politics landscape in USA and it hasn't had any impact on my daily living-It is therefore indifferent who the Americans chose as their President.

I don't think the American is voting with egoistic heart but more like an eye for the best of USA.

This is up to my American friends to decide which candidate they think is the best for USA.

Markus

AVGWarhawk
08-10-24, 06:09 PM
I picked Harris. The Democratic propaganda machine is unstoppable. The media is in their pocket. The advent of no ID required and mail in ballots opens the doors wide for fraud.

HW3
08-10-24, 06:15 PM
:agree:

em2nought
08-10-24, 08:14 PM
If President Trump "loses" there will never be another Republican President ever again. Even if President Trump wins, I'm not sure the Lawfare Firm of Pelosi, Schumer, & Schiff won't come up with a way to stop it. :hmmm:

Jimbuna
08-11-24, 11:40 AM
All in all a right bloody mess!

les green01
08-14-24, 02:41 PM
All in all a right bloody mess!

Yep you hit the nail on the head

Buddahaid
08-14-24, 08:22 PM
Hey, I just came back to vote twice like I usually do and I can’t.

Jimbuna
08-15-24, 06:31 AM
Hey, I just came back to vote twice like I usually do and I can’t.

:haha:

Onkel Neal
08-19-24, 07:29 AM
I picked Harris. The Democratic propaganda machine is unstoppable. The media is in their pocket. The advent of no ID required and mail in ballots opens the doors wide for fraud.

Yeah, that's correct. The amount of lies, gaslighting, and propaganda coming from the media now is staggering. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime, it's like something out of a dystopian novel... :o

ReallyDedPoet
08-20-24, 01:39 PM
Harris....

mapuc
08-20-24, 01:57 PM
Yeah, that's correct. The amount of lies, gaslighting, and propaganda coming from the media now is staggering. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime, it's like something out of a dystopian novel... :o

You make it sounds like you are living in a banana republic.

It can't be that bad !?

Markus

Buddahaid
08-21-24, 12:11 PM
Yeah, that's correct. The amount of lies, gaslighting, and propaganda coming from the media now is staggering. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime, it's like something out of a dystopian novel... :o

It really doesn't matter what your politics are, mainstream for profit media is no longer about reporting news accurately, or fairly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_doctrine

Aktungbby
08-21-24, 04:43 PM
:dead:You make it sounds like you are living in a banana republic.

It can't be that bad !?

Markus...but...but it is a 'banana republic'...just ask big bananas: William Travis,(S.Carolina) Davy Crockett(Tennesee), James Bowie(Louisiana) and John F. Kennedy(Massachusetts)??!!:oops::timeout::dead:

Onkel Neal
08-28-24, 07:52 AM
You make it sounds like you are living in a banana republic.

It can't be that bad !?

Markus

More like living in a Stalinist dystopian hell. Can't trust any news sources, the govt is slowly tightening the screws, half the population is fighting like hell to keep the right to genocide the unborn, neutering the police, and opening the borders to tens of millions of illegal aliens. It's a sick place, only a purge will right this ship.

Jimbuna
08-28-24, 08:04 AM
It's a sick place, only a purge will right this ship.

https://i.postimg.cc/P5qh7HMM/make-it-so-captain.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

AVGWarhawk
09-17-24, 08:07 AM
Hey, I just came back to vote twice like I usually do and I can’t.

Budda, not how it works. Voting by mail can provide a person with multiple votes. How do I know this? My kids get mail in ballots at my home. I can simply vote for them. Some homes are getting ballots for family members who have died. These can be sent in with a vote. It is simply not a matter of showing up twice to a polling station and getting turned away. Then pretend all is on the up and up when voting begins.

Shadowblade
09-17-24, 08:50 AM
maybe there should be also the poll if Trump will survive long enough to participate in elections :hmmm:

vienna
09-19-24, 02:25 PM
Budda, not how it works. Voting by mail can provide a person with multiple votes. How do I know this? My kids get mail in ballots at my home. I can simply vote for them. Some homes are getting ballots for family members who have died. These can be sent in with a vote. It is simply not a matter of showing up twice to a polling station and getting turned away. Then pretend all is on the up and up when voting begins.

There is a major flaw in your post; I don't know about your state, but every other state requires mail-in ballots to be reviewed before being counted; mail ballots are required to be signed by the voter and each ballot is reviewed to see if the ballot signature matches the voter's signature on file at the registrar's office; unless someone can accurately forge the voter's signature, the ballot won't be counted; if the signature is close but suspect, the voter listed will be contacted to confirm the legitimacy of the signature...



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AVGWarhawk
09-19-24, 02:35 PM
There is a major flaw in your post; I don't know about your state, but every other state requires mail-in ballots to be reviewed before being counted; mail ballots are required to be signed by the voter and each ballot is reviewed to see if the ballot signature matches the voter's signature on file at the registrar's office; unless someone can accurately forge the voter's signature, the ballot won't be counted; if the signature is close but suspect, the voter listed will be contacted to confirm the legitimacy of the signature...



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Between you, me and the lamp post...I bet the "checking of signatures" for a match is done in under a second. But that is me.

vienna
09-19-24, 06:20 PM
Yup, its just you...



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Rockstar
09-25-24, 01:18 PM
LOL. So Mable the neighborhood volunteer poll worker is now a forensic handwriting expert!

AVGWarhawk
09-25-24, 01:40 PM
LOL. So Mable the neighborhood volunteer poll worker is now a forensic handwriting expert!

Yep! Looking glass and all. Utter joke.

Gorpet
10-08-24, 11:34 PM
I think, the funniest SNL skit would be. The clacking Vise President, finding out there is no chickens at the Popeyes. :up: And when she is asked, she will tell you, i don't eat chickens, get the **** out of my face.

August
10-09-24, 12:14 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/P5qh7HMM/make-it-so-captain.jpg (https://postimages.org/)




We purged you royalist Brits pretty good back in 1815. :yep:

Jimbuna
10-09-24, 12:48 PM
We purged you royalist Brits pretty good back in 1815. :yep:

Viet Minh spring to mind in more recent times? :)

August
10-09-24, 03:07 PM
Viet Minh spring to mind in more recent times? :)


We never fought the Viet Minh.

Oubaas
10-24-24, 06:45 PM
A quick look at 2 John 1:11 should answer any questions about me and voting. :haha:

:Kaleun_Cheers:

Torvald Von Mansee
10-30-24, 01:05 PM
Well, the fix is in. The red state governments will simply purge the vote rolls for cities and leave rural areas alone. It's over. And you people think this is moral how? You will win. But, eventually, I'll be laughing at you from Heaven as you burn!! :har:

August
10-30-24, 05:43 PM
You will win. But, eventually, I'll be laughing at you from Heaven as you burn!! :har:


I'm pretty sure that Heaven isn't going to let you in with that attitude.

vanjast
11-02-24, 06:24 PM
If anyone thinks that any of the candidates are 'real'.. they really need their heads read.

First of all .. Washington (DC) District of Columbia, is not part of the United States Republic, and is a private coporation that is bankrupt.

Any of you that are awake will realise that the so called 'Biden' is illegally/fraudulently operating a bankrupt corporation =CRIME
Not only that... wait for it... they have been interfering with the 'Republic of the United States' elections for a lonnggg time.

You don't need to be an einstein to know where this is going.

Invest in rope, lead and copper... there are millions going down.:up: