Germany’s starts a Kebab war!

[Rockstar]

Germany has decided to challenge Turkey’s protected status claim for döner kebab.

Turkey attempt to give the dish the same protected EU status as Spain’s Serrano ham or Neapolitan pizza started in April.

Germany also claims to be the birthplace of the dish and will have 6 months to find a compromise with Turkey. If that doesn’t happen, the European Commission will rule on the dispute

[Skybird]

It was introduced by Turks living in Germany, the only dispute there is is about in which city it came first.
Turkey claims it for propaganda reasons only. Or in Chaplin's great word "Stonk!"

Anyway, I dont care, I dont eat it. The meat spears come from factories who are dubious, imo. Who knows what they put on the spears. I only know what in theory should be on it - and what not.

Its also hilariously expensive now, like a major lunch in a restaurant. I recall times when it costed 1,80. Now its 7-8 Euros, and more. For that money I already get a small Entrecote (=Ribeye in French cut), or 300gr of frozen lamb. And have no glibbery white bread and no disgustable veggies with it. :D


Fast food in general has become - healthy. The prices are such that less people buy them, that is good for their health. :up:

[em2nought]

Fast food in general has become - healthy. The prices are such that less people buy them, that is good for their health. :up:


I'm surprised there isn't someone taking credit for improved health due to increased prices. :har:

I'm looking forward to shawarma in Thailand for cheap prices. Haven't had a good one since the Pakistani store in Gourock.

[Shadowblade]

typical german food :D

[mapuc]

typical german food :D

Nein typisch essen sind sauerkraut und Schweinefleisch

Markus

[Skybird]

Nein typisch essen sind sauerkraut und Schweinefleisch

Markus
No, thats a clichèe. Germans eat sauerkraut not more than anyone else. Most do not like it.

[Shadowblade]

Nein typisch essen sind sauerkraut und Schweinefleisch

Markus

I know, I am just kidding. :)
But when I was learning to speak German years ago, there was no kebab mentioned. :03:

[Skybird]

I know, I am just kidding. :)
But when I was learning to speak German years ago, there was no kebab mentioned. :03:Almost nobody says "Kebab" over here, thats just on the signs and posters. The correct verbal order is "Ein Döner, bitte!" :)

[Skybird]

https://www-nzz-ch.translate.goog/panorama/wieder-streit-um-den-doener-braucht-der-beliebte-fleischspiess-bald-einen-anderen-namen-ld.1841245?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_hist=true

[em2nought]

No, thats a clichèe. Germans eat sauerkraut not more than anyone else. Most do not like it.

I've always thought with my German roots that I should like German food, but I don't seem to like any of it. I'd think you'd be into fermented foods for the health benefits? Problem is most of the benefits from sauerkraut are destroyed by pasteurization here. Over here sauerkraut that hasn't been pasteurized is as expensive as meat. I've been thinking of making my own instead. I do like sauerkraut with my Carnitas rubbed pork shoulder roast from Aldi, and I'd eat it often that way for the health benefits. :up:

I'm a bit afraid to stink up my entire house with any fermentation process. :D

[Jimbuna]

I've never had a really good kebab in Turkey whilst there but I have had good ones here in the UK and the Netherlands.

[Skybird]

^ If I would still eat veggies, than fermented like Sauerkraut, Japanese Natto (pfui baaa...) or Korean Kimchi (the far better Sauerkraut...), but only freshly prepared, not industrially processed and pasteurized. But I never had the taste for this stuff, even when I still ate veggies/fruits (which I dont anymore, obviously). Not eating veggies is no loss, but a gain in life quality for me, I'm glad I found the right excuses to get rid of this stuff.:03:

[Skybird]

I've never had a really good kebab in Turkey whilst there but I have had good ones here in the UK and the Netherlands.
Yes, the NZZ article I linked explains what the difference is. The Döner as we now know it, with bread and veggies, stems from the 70s, and most likely from Berlin. The Turkish meat speer is not the same, and uses different meat. The German Döner invented by German Turks became more popular by its different taste.


What I dont like about it is that you cnnot see what sorts of meat and wqhat qulaity of meat isbeing used to make the meat rolls. While it is regulated, the business is shady, there are black sheep for sure. I dont like to eat stuff where I cannot conclude on the original quality and the ingredients, especially when it is fish and meat. We have had too many rotten meat scandals, and Döner meat rolls are wonderful to hide waste meat in. Let me see the raw matter, let me smell it.

[Jimbuna]

^ Agreed....I used to help out on occasion/days off work at a friends pizza shop where he also sold kebabs (he is a Turkish national actually) and I have never seen as much oil/grease come off a piece of meat like it would on these kebab meat parcels.

There were also about a dozen different quality grades of kebab depending on what level of quality you were after.

[Skybird]

Use translation subtitles.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9iRIaBj6Hk

[em2nought]

I actually had to look before posting in this thread prior, but the name we all called the spot to get a good "doner" from in Gourock(or was the shop in Greenock as they kind of run together from what I remember?) is now considered a racial slur. None of us ever considered it a slur. I don't think the fellas taking our money did either. I don't think anyone I knew intended it as a racial slur. This modern world is too sensitive. :hmmm:

[Shadowblade]

Almost nobody says "Kebab" over here, thats just on the signs and posters. The correct verbal order is "Ein Döner, bitte!" :)


nor Döner. And it is called Kebab here too.


I would prefer Wiener Schnitzel: :03:

https://y.yarn.co/c2144692-ec5c-4910-b19c-ad0355576f0f_text.gif

[Skybird]

Some tasty "racial slurs" from German language. :D


Negerkuss (Negro's Kiss)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Schaumkuss-1.jpg/640px-Schaumkuss-1.jpg


Berliner
https://www.oekotest.de/static_files/images/article/Berliner-selber-zu-machen-ist-nicht-allzu-schwer-die-Krapfen-schmecken-in-der-Faschingszeit-besonders-lecker-_Oliver-Hoffmann-Shutterstock_11707_16x9.jpg


Amerikaner
https://image.essen-und-trinken.de/13790848/t/ca/v2/w960/r1/-/amerikaner-adobestock-angelika-heine-494662279.jpg


Wiener (Viennese)

https://www.bofrost.de/medias/01443-DE-wiener-wuerstchen-pic2.jpg-W720xH450R1.6?context=bWFzdGVyfHByb2R1Y3QtaW1hZ2Vz fDEzODA5MHxpbWFnZS9qcGVnfGFHVXhMMmc1TUM4NU5qYzBNVE 13T0RneU5Ua3dMekF4TkRRelgwUkZYM2RwWlc1bGNpMTNkV1Z5 YzNSamFHVnVYM0JwWXpJdWFuQm5YMWMzTWpCNFNEUTFNRkl4TG pZfDhkM2E5MmM1ODA2MTEwOGE1OTExN2M3ZTA0ZDE2MTJiNjY1 OTdiYzExYjViOGFjOGIzYmYzNzU5MWU4NzdhZjk

[Dargo]

OK when we have a fight with the Turks can We claim the "Kapsalon"?

A kapsalon is a Dutch dish consisting of fries covered with shoarma, topped with cheese, put under the grill for a while so the cheese melts, with salad on top. Instead of shoarma, the kapsalon is also prepared with kebab, döner, gyros, chicken or falafel. It is often served with garlic sauce and sambal. In Suriname, the kapsalon is served with garlic sauce and Javanese-Surinamese peanut sauce.

https://i.postimg.cc/D09xFRC2/Kapsalon.jpg

[em2nought]

OK when we have a fight with the Turks can We claim the "Kapsalon"?

A kapsalon is a Dutch dish consisting of fries covered with shoarma, topped with cheese, put under the grill for a while so the cheese melts, with salad on top. In Suriname, the kapsalon is served with garlic sauce and Javanese-Surinamese peanut sauce.


If I was ultra rich I'd probably roam the earth eating the best of everything. Wouldn't need to stop in the UK though. :D Well, maybe the UK for some fried fish wrapped in newspaper? :hmmm: Hopefully one of those Daily Sun chicks on the newspaper. Do they do that anymore?