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Deputy
07-01-24, 01:31 PM
This website has a trainer for SH4. I tested it it appears virus-free (at least it didn't set off Windows Defender) and works as advertised. And it's a free download. :up:

https://www.gamepressure.com/download.asp?ID=68413

Dep
P.S. If posting this violates any forum rules, I apologize and please delete. :salute:

KaleunMarco
07-01-24, 04:40 PM
This website has a trainer for SH4. I tested it it appears virus-free (at least it didn't set off Windows Defender) and works as advertised. And it's a free download. :up:

https://www.gamepressure.com/download.asp?ID=68413

Dep
P.S. If posting this violates any forum rules, I apologize and please delete. :salute:

interesting little hack.
what scares me is that to use it during gameplay requires a shell-out to Windows in order to take advantage of some of the hacks. Shelling out is known to cause gameplay issues.
so, it's a neat thing but you wouldnt want to use most of the hacks.

ijnfleetadmiral
07-01-24, 04:43 PM
Don't need gameplay help, I just need to know how to make the Medals Fix Stock 1.5 mod work. Playing the game on Steam, and the downloads themselves don't specify where to install the mod. I'd think that'd be a key element, but what do I know? Thanks for any help.

KaleunMarco
07-01-24, 04:48 PM
Don't need gameplay help, I just need to know how to make the Medals Fix Stock 1.5 mod work. Playing the game on Steam, and the downloads themselves don't specify where to install the mod. I'd think that'd be a key element, but what do I know? Thanks for any help.

capnscurvy has a number of medal fixes in the MODS forum.
i would recommend using only those mods by capnscurvy or propbeanie.
be sure to download the one for your installation as there are differences depending on the mega-mod you are using or even if you playing Stock 1.5.
:Kaleun_Salute:

ijnfleetadmiral
07-01-24, 08:06 PM
I'm currently running the stock game on Steam. I can download the medal fix mod fine, but the 'Read Me' files don't say how to install them.

KaleunMarco
07-01-24, 08:34 PM
I'm currently running the stock game on Steam. I can download the medal fix mod fine, but the 'Read Me' files don't say how to install them.

use JSGME and apply it last.

ijnfleetadmiral
07-01-24, 09:08 PM
use JSGME and apply it last.
Tried using it on JSGME at least three or four different ways and no luck on any of them...still gives me the same stock medals.

KaleunMarco
07-01-24, 09:31 PM
Tried using it on JSGME at least three or four different ways and no luck on any of them...still gives me the same stock medals.

post your config: JSGME-Task-Export to Clipboard and then paste here.

i suspect that the mod is not applied the way it should...probably because the Data folder was nested one level too deep.
https://i.ibb.co/5xzMYDr/Capture.png

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Ubisoft\GFO\MODS]

101 GFO_Game Fixes Only Mod v1.1
110 Stop The Shouting
180 MaxOptics IV for GFO 1.1
185 Medals Fix IV for v1.5 - STOCK by CapnScurvy
500 jimimadrid Torpedos
600 - 3000 Yard Bearing Tool (1920x)
610 Webster's 300' Underwater Visability for v1.5

ijnfleetadmiral
07-01-24, 10:25 PM
post your config: JSGME-Task-Export to Clipboard and then paste here.
No clue what that means...I'm not a computer tech guy. My JSGME folder - when I finally managed to find it - doesn't have anything like that.

1Patriotofmany
07-02-24, 07:13 AM
Don't need gameplay help, I just need to know how to make the Medals Fix Stock 1.5 mod work. Playing the game on Steam, and the downloads themselves don't specify where to install the mod. I'd think that'd be a key element, but what do I know? Thanks for any help.



If you installed it in the default folder which is a no no, It will be C:\Program files (X86)>Steam>steamapps>common>Silent hunter wolves of the pacific>mods

KaleunMarco
07-02-24, 08:50 AM
No clue what that means...I'm not a computer tech guy. My JSGME folder - when I finally managed to find it - doesn't have anything like that.

ok.
if you are going to play SH4 and use mods to enhance your play, you need to get familiar with JoneSoft Generic Mod Enabler (JSGME).
store JSGME.exe in the same folder as SH4.exe and then run it the first time. it will create a MODS folder under your SH4 game folder.
then, you will place a copy of the mod(s) into the MODS folder, making sure that the highest level of the mod is a descriptive name (for your benefit) and the next level of folder is Data. this is the same pattern that Ubi used for SH4. Most mods come like this, ready-to-use although sometimes there is an extra level of folder that you have to manage-around.

For example:
C:\Ubisoft\Dark Waters\Data
C:\Ubisoft\Dark Waters\Mods\Mod_Name\Data

then launch JSGME, and select the mods you want to apply in the left hand panel, in the order that you want them applied and click the directional arrow that points right. the selected mods will be applied and visually move form the left side to the right side.

when you want to change the order or get rid of the mod, launch JSGME and select the mod from the right panel and unapply it.

this is not very technical...and it is somewhat intuitive, once you do it a couple of times. have confidence. :up:
:Kaleun_Salute:

ijnfleetadmiral
07-02-24, 11:40 AM
My SH4 is located in Documents, so I put JSGME in that folder. SH4 folder now contains two folders: 'data' and 'JSGME_ModEnabler'. JSGME has a 'MODS' folder. I pasted the Medals Fix mod into it. Opened JSGME and that was the only mod to activate. Activated the mod. Ran SH4 and it's still showing the stock game medals.

1Patriotofmany
07-02-24, 03:41 PM
My SH4 is located in Documents, so I put JSGME in that folder. SH4 folder now contains two folders: 'data' and 'JSGME_ModEnabler'. JSGME has a 'MODS' folder. I pasted the Medals Fix mod into it. Opened JSGME and that was the only mod to activate. Activated the mod. Ran SH4 and it's still showing the stock game medals. The SH4 in your documents is not the game folder. It's created the first time you play. It simply contains your saved games and configuration. Like I said, it's in your steam folder. look a few posts above, and put it in the main folder, default is what I posted without going into the mods folder.

KaleunMarco
07-02-24, 06:24 PM
My SH4 is located in Documents, so I put JSGME in that folder. SH4 folder now contains two folders: 'data' and 'JSGME_ModEnabler'. JSGME has a 'MODS' folder. I pasted the Medals Fix mod into it. Opened JSGME and that was the only mod to activate. Activated the mod. Ran SH4 and it's still showing the stock game medals.

The SH4 in your documents is not the game folder. It's created the first time you play. It simply contains your saved games and configuration. Like I said, it's in your steam folder. look a few posts above, and put it in the main folder, default is what I posted without going into the mods folder.

reinforcing what 1Patriot posted, here is a screenshot of SH4 installed with JSGME.
notice the Data Folder and also the Mods folder which is created the first time you launch JSGME.
you place your mods under the \MODS folder shown.
https://i.ibb.co/wp3vZzZ/Capture.png (https://imgbb.com/)

ijnfleetadmiral
07-03-24, 04:02 AM
The only Ubisoft folder I found on my computer was located in the Program Files (x86) folder. Did everything you guys said to do...added JSGME, ran it, placed the Medals Fix mod in the MODS folder, and then ran the game.


No luck...it's still showing the stock game medals. And I've tried doing this with two different medal fix mods for the stock game.

KaleunMarco
07-03-24, 08:29 AM
The only Ubisoft folder I found on my computer was located in the Program Files (x86) folder. Did everything you guys said to do...added JSGME, ran it, placed the Medals Fix mod in the MODS folder, and then ran the game.


No luck...it's still showing the stock game medals. And I've tried doing this with two different medal fix mods for the stock game.

ok, that's one issue: "The only Ubisoft folder I found on my computer was located in the Program Files (x86) folder."

re-install SH4 in a different folder than one controlled by the Windows OS.
try something like C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4\

then install JSGME and then your mods.

Deputy
07-03-24, 10:10 AM
interesting little hack.
what scares me is that to use it during gameplay requires a shell-out to Windows in order to take advantage of some of the hacks. Shelling out is known to cause gameplay issues.
so, it's a neat thing but you wouldnt want to use most of the hacks.

Really liking this mod. Haven't had ANY gameplay issues at all, other than more enjoyment. I was REAL curious about what a German sub with ALL the options on it would be like. One of the options is "Editor Game Resources" which can give you HUGE amounts of credits. With it, I was able to equip a sub with the top line of every option. Doing so, I was able to earn the Iron Cross with Swords on my first mission.
Some of the mods work differently, depending on if you are an American or German player. For instance, I couldn't get unlimited deck gun ammo on German sub. But DID get unlimited torpedoes, and I am using the best torpedo available. On the American sub, I was able to have unlimited deck gun ammo and instant reload. Geez...firing the deck gun like a machinegun was REAL tempting.:D

I did notice that some options blanked out others, so there wouldn't be a conflict or hang-up. Pretty cool of the creator to do that. All-in-all I give this mod two thumbs up. :yeah:

Dep

ijnfleetadmiral
07-03-24, 10:54 AM
re-install SH4 in a different folder than one controlled by the Windows OS.


try something like C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4\
Found SH4 in the Steam folder in the 'x86' folder. Tried installing it in a different folder, but Steam won't let me pick a different one. Did the same routine with the Steam folder version...JSGME, etc., etc. Nothing.


I've about had it with this BS. Nothing I'm doing is working. And this is my THIRD time reinstalling the game.

KaleunMarco
07-03-24, 07:31 PM
Found SH4 in the Steam folder in the 'x86' folder. Tried installing it in a different folder, but Steam won't let me pick a different one. Did the same routine with the Steam folder version...JSGME, etc., etc. Nothing.


I've about had it with this BS. Nothing I'm doing is working. And this is my THIRD time reinstalling the game.

yeah, Steam complicates things.

i was hoping that one of the guys who is more adept working with Steam than i am would jump in here and offer a path to success for you.

give it a another day or so before you give up.

1Patriotofmany
07-04-24, 05:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nsY66CMjP0

1Patriotofmany
07-04-24, 06:04 PM
Here's how I do it on both 7 and now win10 1. Install wolves of the pacific and the uboat missions from steam in Steamlibrary folder(Not the default C:windows programs!) or install on another drive other than C:
2. NEVER TOUCH THE ORIGINAL INSTALLATION AGAIN!!!!!
3. Copy everything from your steamfolder>steamapps>common>Silent Hunter wolves of the Pacific file.
4. Paste all to a new folder named for the mod you are going to install( I use a different drive than C: for the new folder since my C: is fairly small)
5. Put JSGME in the folder and run it, it will put a subfolder called mods in your folder you pasted everything into
6. Put Large Address Aware in your folder you pasted everything into and run it, make sure it's pointing to the SH4.exe in your new folder and not the original install.
7. Put Multish4 v 1.5 in the folder you pasted everything into, run it and use three letters, like for Fall of the rising sun, I use FOR. (this keeps saves seperate from other saves. The default save is SH4 in documents folder, you don;t want different mods going to the same save folder) Make sure it's pointed to the sh4.exe in your new folder and not the original install
8. Download which ever mod you want for the new named folder, follow the mods instructions!
9. Run JSGME and activate the mod.
10. Make a shortcut from your SH4.exe in the folder you pasted everything into and rename it for the mod.


Do all the above from 3. on down for every mod you want to install using the original install which remains untouched as the template . I keep separate folders for every mod I have, there's only one or two I have any crashes and it's probably because I missed something during the install of the mod. The reason not to ever touch the original install is if you mess up the installation of a mod, you just wipe the new folder you created and the corresponding save in the documents folder rather than have to wipe everything, and download the original steam installation! A lesson I learned numerous times and numerous redownloading and installing!!!!!!! DOOOOOOOH.


I have OM Darkwaters,FOTRS,We Dive at Dawn,TMO, TMOwTW, Berbster, IJN Jyunsen B mod, OM Itailian campaign 2.0 and a couple other mods. Of those I have trouble with maybe 3 occasionally. Key for me was don't install original install in the default location, make new folders for every mod using the untouched original install as a copy and paste. Yes the method I chose uses up more space than just plunking every new mod into the mod folder but I seem to have less problems and I just click on the shortcut to play another mod. Hope this helps, Most of what I learned was from the old salts here and with a little trial and error, okay a lot of trial and error and a lot of completely start overs until I realized, never touch the original install!. wooo that was a long post.

ijnfleetadmiral
07-07-24, 06:21 PM
Here's how I do it on both 7 and now win10 1. Install wolves of the pacific and the uboat missions from steam in Steamlibrary folder
Can't even find the 'Steamlibrary' folder on my C Drive.
(Not the default C:windows programs!)
Steam won't let me install it anywhere else. I try and put it to where it installs elsewhere, but it still reads as installing in the default Windows programs.
or install on another drive other than C:
As I'm on a laptop, installing on another drive is also not an option.

propbeanie
07-07-24, 06:48 PM
Try doing what they say here Moving a Steam Installation and Games (https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4BD4-4528-6B2E-8327) from the Steam Support knowledge base. Depending upon how many Steam games you have, it might take a bit to move it all outside of the Program Files folder. When you have only the C: drive available, you only have one Steam Library folder, and it is "C:\Program Files (x86) \Steam \SteamApps \Common", and all your games are below that Common folder, similar to what 1Patriotofmany shows in his #3. As you install Steam, it will give you a choice for the path to be used for the install. I usually edit to "C:\Games", and then the install app itself makes it "C: \Steam \SteamApps \Common \Wolves of the Pacific". The main components of Steam itself still end up in Program Files (x86), but the Steam Library is now in the Games folder.

ijnfleetadmiral
07-08-24, 10:56 PM
Try doing what they say here Moving a Steam Installation and Games (https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4BD4-4528-6B2E-8327) from the Steam Support knowledge base. Depending upon how many Steam games you have, it might take a bit to move it all outside of the Program Files folder. When you have only the C: drive available, you only have one Steam Library folder, and it is "C:\Program Files (x86) \Steam \SteamApps \Common", and all your games are below that Common folder, similar to what 1Patriotofmany shows in his #3. As you install Steam, it will give you a choice for the path to be used for the install. I usually edit to "C:\Games", and then the install app itself makes it "C: \Steam \SteamApps \Common \Wolves of the Pacific". The main components of Steam itself still end up in Program Files (x86), but the Steam Library is now in the Games folder.
1) I tried following what the video said step-by-step. Created the new folder and everything, then tried to select it on Steam settings. The folder I created didn't even appear in the options.

1Patriotofmany
07-09-24, 08:23 PM
Did you delete the SH4 folder in your documents when you reinstalled the game? Do that and restart computer. You do understand the mod you want to use needs to be activated within JSGME, correct? Let's just worry about getting it running rather than trying to move it right now.


You can move it later manually by following #3 on down in the steps I posted previously, then you start the game by using the shortcut you made to the folder rather than the steam launcher.




If you want to go scorched earth, uninstall steam and delete the SH4 in your documents, then reinstall steam. It will give you the option to install steam elsewhere.