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Skybird
06-14-24, 06:37 AM
https://www-welt-de.translate.goog/gesundheit/article252013578/Astronauten-Wie-sich-Raumfahrt-auf-Menschen-auswirkt.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de

Jimbuna
06-14-24, 12:42 PM
Think I'll stop on Earth if that's okay.

mapuc
06-14-24, 01:40 PM
Remember a science program many years ago, where they talked around the problem with Human and space.

I remember one scientist said it would be better to develop cyborgs and let them conquer the space (Something like that)

Markus

Skybird
06-15-24, 03:42 AM
Remember a science program many years ago, where they talked around the problem with Human and space.

I remember one scientist said it would be better to develop cyborgs and let them conquer the space (Something like that)

Markus
Could have been me. :) I think since long that humans cannot make long space journeys without gettign frozen or genetically and technologically altered them, fundamentally, indeed turnign them into sort of cyborgs.



Whether that is desirable, is another debate.



Physics professor and science fiction author Gregory Benford wrote, amongst many others, the six novels of the socalled Galactic Center Saga, that depicts a war between a machine civilization trying to exterminate mankind from all the galaxy for being a "vermin", where humans indeed live and fight for survival with plenty of technology injected into their no longer purely natural bodies.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Center_Saga

Jimbuna
06-15-24, 05:52 AM
Could have been me. :) I think since long that humans cannot make long space journeys without gettign frozen or genetically and technologically altered them, fundamentally, indeed turnign them into sort of cyborgs.



Whether that is desirable, is another debate.



Physics professor and science fiction author Gregory Benford wrote, amongst many others, the six novels of the socalled Galactic Center Saga, that depicts a war between a machine civilization trying to exterminate mankind from all the galaxy for being a "vermin", where humans indeed live and fight for survival with plenty of technology injected into their no longer purely natural bodies.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Center_Saga

I can think of many a politician that would benefit from an extended trip/tour in space.

Shadowblade
06-19-24, 10:46 AM
I better wait for transport without it, thank you :)

Aktungbby
06-19-24, 01:54 PM
this really pisses me off:shucks: https://www.space.com/39710-orion-spacesuit-waste-disposal-system.html https://i.insider.com/58a607ed01fe581d008b50a8?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp:nope:

Skybird
06-19-24, 02:39 PM
On missions to Mars astronauts will have the choice between aromatized drinking waters with different flavours. :cool:

Jimbuna
06-21-24, 08:57 AM
Just let me know when they put curry on the menu.

Aktungbby
06-21-24, 10:19 AM
they don't allow curry on space trips as it wears out the poop bags ahead of schedule!:shucks::O:https://airandspace.si.edu/sites/default/files/styles/body_large/public/images/5161h.jpg?itok=mLXFg1XM https://youtu.be/nRl-qAjKLEI?t=24

Jimbuna
06-21-24, 11:35 AM
Only if it's a Vindaloo so Madras should be okay :)

Platapus
06-21-24, 01:22 PM
Unfortunately, despite all the technological advances, Humans remain rather squishy flesh bags with little protection.



That is gonna still be an obstacle for prolonged space flight

mapuc
06-21-24, 01:30 PM
We seems to be concentrating on present day, maybe we should turn our view into the future.

What kind of technical breakthroughs await us, when it comes to space exploration in the future?

Markus

Platapus
06-21-24, 02:52 PM
That's just it. We can improve machinery and develop technology, but we still need some way to keep meat bags healthy enough to survive the very long trips.



I think un-crewed probes should be the first priority.


Let's find out if there are any places out there that we really want to visit in person.

Moonlight
06-21-24, 03:18 PM
We seems to be concentrating on present day, maybe we should turn our view into the future.

What kind of technical breakthroughs await us, when it comes to space exploration in the future?

Markus

Right on Markus
I think artificial gravity should be top of the list of technological advances to be explored, followed by an engine that doesn't need refuelling.

Skybird
06-21-24, 04:43 PM
Just send the mind on travel, leave the fragile organic body behind. The latter is not made for space travel and the brutality of space physics.



Human or human-made minds put into machines. Serious. Beyond a certain treshhold in extremes and distances and time frames, me must not put ourselves into ever better techncial protective vehicles - we must become the vehicles.