First time player of Silent Hunter 4 here

[jennw002]

Dear SUBSIM Radio Room,

As probably many once before me I saw Crimson Tide last night and remembered the whole Silent Hunter series, even though I never played them up until now.

If I wanted to play native, vanilla or a patched up version on Windows 11 over the weekend, where do I actually get the game? I see downloads links that seems very impressive and interesting but lack the base game.

Do I need to buy it, if so where would I do that?

Thanks a lot! :salute:

Jenny

[propbeanie]

Welcome to SubSim jennw002! :subsim:

Most places, such as Amazon, no longer sell the disk version of the game. Amazon also does not currently sell the download version. You can get it through Steam games, but Steam can be a little squirrelly.

Steam: Silent Hunter®: Wolves of the Pacific (https://store.steampowered.com/app/15200/Silent_Hunter_Wolves_of_the_Pacific/)

Steam: Silent Hunter®: Wolves of the Pacific U-Boat Missions (https://store.steampowered.com/app/15240/Silent_Hunter_Wolves_of_the_Pacific_UBoat_Missions/)

Notice that Steam sells the old v1.3 of the game (Wolves of the Pacific) and the U-Boat Missions Add-On separately, which brings the game up to v1.5. Whereas, Ubisoft has a full v1.5 (Gold) edition of the game

Ubisoft: Silent Hunter 4 DLC-PC (https://store.ubisoft.com/us/game/?lang=en_US&pid=56c4948988a7e300458b47fa&dwvar_56c4948988a7e300458b47fa_Platform=pcdl&edition=DLC&source=detail)

All of the links are for the respective US stores. Either is fine, and Ubisoft has been having rumblings of going all-subscription, which Steam basically already is, in that if they decide to drop a game, it is removed from the player's Steam start menu. Your choice as to who you "trust" more, but the Ubisoft way is $10US cheaper with just the one download, and since most mods are written for the v1.5 Gold Edition, the 'easy route' to go for now. Just be aware that both versions of the game will install into the Windows Program Files folder system, which are "protected" by Windows from changes, so you cannot mod the game in that folder structure. You can avoid that issue by changing your install path to a folder of your own choosing, by editing the path shown when you get to that portion of the install routine. I used "C:\Games" as my root. If you have deeper questions about any of that, just ask away. :salute:

[Aktungbby]

jennw002!:Kaleun_Salute:

[1Patriotofmany]

Welcome to SubSim jennw002! :subsim:


All of the links are for the respective US stores. Either is fine, and Ubisoft has been having rumblings of going all-subscription, which Steam basically already is, in that if they decide to drop a game, it is removed from the player's Steam start menu. :salute: Propbeanie, I never heard that before? Where is that documented that it disappears if they drop a game? Luckily i have sh4 1.5 on disk if that ever happens, But that's bothering me because I have tons of games I paid for on steam.

[Gerald]

Welcome to Subsim!!

[propbeanie]

Propbeanie, I never heard that before? Where is that documented that it disappears if they drop a game? Luckily i have sh4 1.5 on disk if that ever happens, But that's bothering me because I have tons of games I paid for on steam.
It happens all the time for various reasons. The most common of which is Steam losing the licensing rights. But if a game, or the Steam client itself can't run on a given OS (such as Windows 7), then that's it, no more access. Steam just took down a big one the other day, but I cannot find the article about it... but here is their current list of future drops: Games at Risk of Removal (https://store.steampowered.com/curator/31857481-Games-at-risk-of-removal/). It is part of their "EUA"... I believe the correct term is "designed obsolescence"...

[Aktungbby]

Games at risk of removal...jeeze! Not 'Raiders of the North Sea' too:Kaleun_Crying:

[KaleunMarco]

...jeeze! Not 'Raiders of the North Sea' too:Kaleun_Crying:

they want to suck the fun out of everything!
:har::wah:

[Aktungbby]

...jeeze! Not 'Raiders of the North Sea' too:Kaleun_Crying:

they want to suck the fun out of everything!
:har::wah: https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/965600/header.jpg?t=1634852942 Indeed! as a true son of St Olafhttps://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=10825 and a rabid Minnesota Vikinghttps://static.www.nfl.com/t_q-best/league/api/clubs/logos/MIN fan since the 1961 'daze' of Norm Van Brocklin, I'm thoroughly disconsolate....errr need a beer!https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/sxkAAOSwZpBmGQ~u/s-l1600.webp< I'll 'suck the fun' outta these two!:O:

[KaleunMarco]

a true son of St Olaf

Olaf?
isn't he the snowman in Disney's Frozen cartoon?

[Aktungbby]

EGAD! errr Josh Gad: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/41st_Annie_Awards%2C_Josh_Gad_%28crop%29.jpg/330px-41st_Annie_Awards%2C_Josh_Gad_%28crop%29.jpg he voiced the character of Olaf:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/Olaf_from_Disney%27s_Frozen.png. Mr Gad, a consummate voice actor from balmy hurricane prone Florida, has no clue why Minnesota is the 'frigid wasteland'(-50 F) of my youth; and why I stay in sunny inferno/quake prone Napa CA!:yeah::yep:

[1Patriotofmany]

It happens all the time for various reasons. The most common of which is Steam losing the licensing rights. But if a game, or the Steam client itself can't run on a given OS (such as Windows 7), then that's it, no more access. Steam just took down a big one the other day, but I cannot find the article about it... but here is their current list of future drops: Games at Risk of Removal (https://store.steampowered.com/curator/31857481-Games-at-risk-of-removal/). It is part of their "EUA"... I believe the correct term is "designed obsolescence"... I should have read the agreement. Just did. I didn't realize I was not buying the game. Thanks for that. I'll keep that in mind when purchasing a license for higher priced games.

[pmcmull]

I have generally found Steam to be a good place to run and organize games. If you have a disk disaster, like I had, you just have to install Steam again and get logged in, then you can download and re-install anything you have purchased. And it makes a handy place to find everything. If you want to point it to an alternate location for your library, on another disk volume, it cooperates with that.



Now to discontinuing titles. I have not experienced that, not yet at least. But if one has copied the full program folder to any location, and runs it directly from there. Like one needs to do for games with mods such as Silent Hunter 3 or 4. I don't see any way Steam can track it down and delete it, or disable it. They can't search all my computer drives for software. Can they ?

[1Patriotofmany]

I have generally found Steam to be a good place to run and organize games. If you have a disk disaster, like I had, you just have to install Steam again and get logged in, then you can download and re-install anything you have purchased. And it makes a handy place to find everything. If you want to point it to an alternate location for your library, on another disk volume, it cooperates with that.



Now to discontinuing titles. I have not experienced that, not yet at least. But if one has copied the full program folder to any location, and runs it directly from there. Like one needs to do for games with mods such as Silent Hunter 3 or 4. I don't see any way Steam can track it down and delete it, or disable it. They can't search all my computer drives for software. Can they ?I suppose one way to test it, would be disconnect your computer from the internet and try to play a game from the programs startup file. I'm gonna try running a few games on win7 which Steam apparently does support anymore.

[1Patriotofmany]

Just to expand, I didn't have internet for two days, my SH4 mods worked independently of Steam being available. I suppose it might depend on which steam games you have, but doesn't affect SH4 from my experience. I should have tried a bunch of them to see which ones were dependent. Of course I could just disconnect the lan cable and find out..