Source of the World's Problems

[Oubaas]

I've been contemplating the source of all the world's problems, and I've come up with the answer.

Paving.

Both bituminous and concrete. If we tore up all of the paving, the world would quickly improve. Get rid of paved streets, roads, and runways.

Everything would become far more local. It would be much more difficult to control vast swaths of the world and screw everything up in an unending frenzy of greed and avarice.

Yep. That's it. All paved surfaces must go. I like dirt roads better anyway. And local dirt track racing is much better than corporate sponsored big league racing. Get rid of corporate sponsorship and paved tracks.

Formula One should be a dirt track event. Remove the paving from all the tracks and make the biggest sponsor Bob's Muffler and Exhaust Service. Then you'd have something.

[Aktungbby]

Yer 2700(ish) years too late:hmmm: https://media.tenor.com/1gFgvyDn1nkAAAAC/rome-roman-legion.gif https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-20-2016/weN1EC.mp4 https://www.geotech.hr/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/slojevi_ceste.jpg:arrgh!: https://preview.redd.it/il9603y0pvz51.jpg?auto=webp&a8c995c4 https://media.springernature.com/lw1200/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs40797-020-00120-5/MediaObjects/40797_2020_120_Fig1_HTML.png:yeah: in Legio veritas!

[Platapus]

Concrete production is a big producer of CO2 also

[Oubaas]

The Romans! They did this to us with their road building!

And yes, we could greatly reduce concrete production.

We need a dirt road world.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[mapuc]

Makes one wonder how it would be like driving on one of these roads I'm thinking on the suspension they must be working real hard on these bumping Roman road.

Imagine driving 55/75 MPH on these roads

Markus

[August]

Makes one wonder how it would be like driving on one of these roads I'm thinking on the suspension they must be working real hard on these bumping Roman road.

Imagine driving 55/75 MPH on these roads

Markus

His whole point is to stick you in one place so you can't go anywhere. He thinks that will make everyone get along better somehow. To the contrary I think it would make it far easier to exert territorial control with today's technology.

After all there are aircraft and helicopters now that don't need roads and we now have the ability to observe every square inch of ground live from orbit. All that removing paved roads would do is make it more difficult for the little guy to get around and therefore make him easier to control. It's not going to hinder the big guy nearly as much.

[Skybird]

I've been contemplating the source of all the world's problems, and I've come up with the answer.

Paving.

Both bituminous and concrete. If we tore up all of the paving, the world would quickly improve. Get rid of paved streets, roads, and runways.

Everything would become far more local. It would be much more difficult to control vast swaths of the world and screw everything up in an unending frenzy of greed and avarice.

Yep. That's it. All paved surfaces must go. I like dirt roads better anyway. And local dirt track racing is much better than corporate sponsored big league racing. Get rid of corporate sponsorship and paved tracks.

Formula One should be a dirt track event. Remove the paving from all the tracks and make the biggest sponsor Bob's Muffler and Exhaust Service. Then you'd have something.

Indeed roads and streets are linked to the state wanting to project its supprerssive power onto the people. Namely taxing them. You find the idea in many libertarian theoreticists' books. In order to collect taxes from your subjects, your tax collectors must be able to reach them. Well - its a simplificaiton, but you get the idea.

Many of the grand, long alleys you find in European metropole - were build so that troops from the border of the metropole could quickly move in and reahc the city centre and goivenrment district and palaces ion case of public uprises and revolts.

A famous example you find in Berlin, it reaches from the Western border of the city right into the former Wetsern centre and leads onto the Kurfürstendamm thatb then contues the track by another couple of kilometers. This alley is several kilometer long, wide, and mostly very straight. Its purposes you even find in its streetname: "Heerstrasse" (army road). The Heerstrasse alone is over 10 km long, and has five lanes. In the medieval it was a small overland road, the village Berlin then was grew alongside of it.
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The basic problem is much more profound,and I said it many times before. WE ARE TOO MANY. 8.x billion, that is in my opinion seven billion too much.

[JU_88]

I've been contemplating the source of all the world's problems, and I've come up with the answer.

Paving.

Both bituminous and concrete. If we tore up all of the paving, the world would quickly improve. Get rid of paved streets, roads, and runways.

Everything would become far more local. It would be much more difficult to control vast swaths of the world and screw everything up in an unending frenzy of greed and avarice.

Yep. That's it. All paved surfaces must go. I like dirt roads better anyway. And local dirt track racing is much better than corporate sponsored big league racing. Get rid of corporate sponsorship and paved tracks.

Formula One should be a dirt track event. Remove the paving from all the tracks and make the biggest sponsor Bob's Muffler and Exhaust Service. Then you'd have something.


Tough one, but id say humans might be the source of most of them. :D

[Aktungbby]

Tough one, but id say humans might be the source of most of them. :D....or so Sigmund Freud thought when concieved of his theory of the "id, the ego, and the superego"...which might be the psychology the Roman inaugurated in their roadbuilding system...followed by Hitler's autobahn system...and an impressed Ike Eisenhower's implementation/copy of the German system to create the 'Merikan freeway system as it exists today?!!:Kaleun_Wink: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Autobahnen_in_Deutschland.svg/330px-Autobahnen_in_Deutschland.svg.png https://highways.dot.gov/sites/fhwa.dot.gov/files/inline-images/finalmap.jpg<...and I've driven every one of then in my 1976-'79 3-year sleeper-team trukkin' daze!:yep:

[mapuc]

FYI
The Deutsche Autobahn was not invented for ordinary people could get faster from a to b.

It was invented for the mechanized military so they could get faster from one section to an another fast.

Markus

[Aktungbby]

FYI
The Deutsche Autobahn was not invented for ordinary people could get faster from a to b.

It was invented for the mechanized military so they could get faster from one section to an another fast.

Markus https://media.gettyimages.com/id/80481874/photo/nazi-leader-adolf-hitler-heads-a-motorcade-at-the-opening-of-a-new-autobahn-circa-1935.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=nIvmEDYmKv0DK69CqZzn8xW1tNI-sC4tVSEuDWDPER0= Heil Hitler!:Kaleun_Goofy:

[Eichhörnchen]

Tough one, but id say humans might be the source of most of them. :D

... then squirrels

[JU_88]

bloody squirrels.

[Eichhörnchen]

:har:

[Platapus]

FYI
The Deutsche Autobahn was not invented for ordinary people could get faster from a to b.

It was invented for the mechanized military so they could get faster from one section to an another fast.

Markus




Same as with our Interstate system.


Or as it was officially called, the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways

[mapuc]

Same as with our Interstate system.


Or as it was officially called, the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways

That was interesting to know.

Markus

[Oubaas]

You have to bear in mind, I grew up on a dirt road in Appalachia, a long, long time ago. "They was some flatlander pokin' around up here this mornin'. Keep yer eyes peeled. He might be a revenuer." :haha:

But even New York City would be more fun if they ripped up the pavement. It would greatly slow the pace of urban life. If you look at historical photographs of New York City during the spring rains, before they paved the streets, you can tell that things had to have moved at a much more tolerable pace. :har:

[Oubaas]

I also think it would help if we went back to requiring boys to wear knickers until getting their first pair of long pants around thirteen or fourteen years old. It would make them feel like they were joining the grown up ranks.

And girls should be taught etiquette, correct posture, and proper enunciation.

The world has gone down hill badly since those days. And bring back the Elgin Robin. Today's bicycles are weird looking. :haha:

[Aktungbby]

You have to bear in mind, I grew up on a dirt road in Appalachia, a long, long time ago. "They was some flatlander pokin' around up here this mornin'. Keep yer eyes peeled. He might be a revenuer." :haha:

But even New York City would be more fun if they ripped up the pavement. It would greatly slow the pace of urban life. If you look at historical photographs of New York City during the spring rains, before they paved the streets, you can tell that things had to have moved at a much more tolerable pace. :har:...your idea of 'pace' is the speed and time it takes to amble from yer sans plumbing mountain shack, past the moonshine still, to the outhouse and back agin'!:O:

[Oubaas]

...your idea of 'pace' is the speed and time it takes to amble from yer sans plumbing mountain shack, past the moonshine still, to the outhouse and back agin'!:O:

That's right. And you can't be proceeding at breakneck speed, or you'll pass right by the still without stopping to check if the 'shine is beading proper yet. :haha: