Clock Bug?

[AirportsMgr]

I am running the standard Steam version. During my first mission to grid AN56, east of England, the clock showed darkness around 2:30 AM and light. around 10:00 AM. The clock continued to get more off as I used rime compression. I just started my second mission straight north to grid AF87 and am just off the German coast (just started mission), but the clock shows `3:04 while hovering the mouse on the clock shows text that says 14:05 local time.

I would think you would need to have a functioning clock to determine day and night cycles. Does anyone know if this is a bug with the clock or if there is a mod that would fix this problem?

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

I am running the standard Steam version. During my first mission to grid AN56, east of England, the clock showed darkness around 2:30 AM and light. around 10:00 AM. The clock continued to get more off as I used rime compression. I just started my second mission straight north to grid AF87 and am just off the German coast (just started mission), but the clock shows `3:04 while hovering the mouse on the clock shows text that says 14:05 local time.

I would think you would need to have a functioning clock to determine day and night cycles. Does anyone know if this is a bug with the clock or if there is a mod that would fix this problem?

Hey AirportsMgr.. Welcome to Subsim greetings :up:
No, there is no bug..You are confusing the local time on board with GMT time
I recommend that you do not exceed a speed of 256 or 512 over a long period but 256 is better...:yep:
on this screen arrow GmT and at the bottom acceleration of time here 1x
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/5/1705620082-sh3img-18-1-2024-23-33-24-880.png
here a target spotter observes the message with the time watch on board "local"
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/5/1705620603-sh3img-18-1-2024-23-48-19-330.png
here target spot send from the bottom :haha::D
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/5/1705620071-sh3img-8-1-2024-0-39-48-723.png
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/5/1705620076-sh3img-8-1-2024-0-45-56-675.png
I hope I was clear and I wish you good fun..

[Hooston]

Some people on this forum have said that if you have a high frame rate (use ctrl-F8) the clocks and the outside time get gradually out of sync. It's a good idea to select synchronize in the game video settings menu to limit the frame rate. Never seen it myself, but then my rubbish old laptop never gets above 40fps!

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

Some people on this forum have said that if you have a high frame rate (use ctrl-F8) the clocks and the outside time get gradually out of sync. It's a good idea to select synchronize in the game video settings menu to limit the frame rate. Never seen it myself, but then my rubbish old laptop never gets above 40fps!

Hey Houston Greetings..
So I recommend that you activate it Then go to your backup of the games in this case here C:\Users\Kellys\Documents\OaX\data\cfg\main
[TIME COMPRESSION]
TimeStop=0
RealTime=1
LandProximity=128
CriticalDamage=1
CrewEfficiency=1
AirEnemyDetected=1
SoundEffects=2
CharacterAnim=4
EnemyDetected=8
RadioReport=8
Particles=32
PrayState=8
HunterState=32
3DRender=32
Maximum=1024

[VIDEO]
Resolution=1920 x 1080
DynamicShadows=No
FullScreen=Yes
Synchronized=No
ParticleDensity=100.000000
TextureResolutionHigh=Yes

I don't activate it because I use the interiors... but you need a machine with 16GB Ram 2 to 4GB dedicated video Nvidia & AmD a good I5 or I7 processor if you have an old machine it's complicated and I don't recommend it not laptops..that said it also works but you will have to make fine adjustments..and without the complete interiors
Vertical synchronization avoids image tearing if you use Nvidia profile you can even block the framerate as you wish..
You also notice I limited the time to 1024 "Maximum=1024"
But in games I recommend
X256 or 512 over long distance attention during the passage to port 8 or 16 shore 32 or 64 if you proceed from this way to avoid too much desincronization on the whole of the career ...
It's all a question of adjustment and machine performance
FYI my machine is very old But equipped with a good SSD associated with an HDD with a lot of 256MB memory cache
my config
GA-P55 ud3
gtx 980 4gb
16gb ram
HyperX SSD
HD western blue
a WW2 config over 14 years old :har::haha::timeout:
there is also the screen which is very important...it is an Asus TuF 75htz here

[AirportsMgr]

Hey AirportsMgr.. Welcome to Subsim greetings :up:
No, there is no bug..You are confusing the local time on board with GMT time
I recommend that you do not exceed a speed of 256 or 512 over a long period but 256 is better...:yep:
on this screen arrow GmT and at the bottom acceleration of time here 1x
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/5/1705620082-sh3img-18-1-2024-23-33-24-880.png
here a target spotter observes the message with the time watch on board "local"
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/5/1705620603-sh3img-18-1-2024-23-48-19-330.png
here target spot send from the bottom :haha::D
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/5/1705620071-sh3img-8-1-2024-0-39-48-723.png
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/5/1705620076-sh3img-8-1-2024-0-45-56-675.png
I hope I was clear and I wish you good fun..

Thanks, but I am not confusing the clock with GMT. When the mouse pointer hovers over the clock it clearly says it is local time. Also, I am not exceeding 32 times on compression. To make maters worse, the clock is not even off a specific amount, like it would be if it was showing a different time zone. For instance, at one point it showed it got dark at 2:37 and light again at 6:02 the same day - less than 4 hours of night.

On the current mission the clock says 13:07 and the mouse pointer says 14:07 local time. I guess that the clock could be set to a different time zone than Germany, but I don't think so.

My opinion as a newbie is that the clock is getting messed up because of continually using time compression.

[Doolar]

This link covers the clock time / day, night cycle issus. I don't understand why but I limit my frame rates to 60hz and have never had issues again. When I did have issues, it was very rare, but it did bother me. This is a short thread and a good read.The frame rate stuff starts around post 20 or close to it. hope this helps.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=245471

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

This link covers the clock time / day, night cycle issus. I don't understand why but I limit my frame rates to 60hz and have never had issues again. When I did have issues, it was very rare, but it did bother me. This is a short thread and a good read.The frame rate stuff starts around post 20 or close to it. hope this helps.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=245471

Hey Jerry Greetings...happy new year..:Kaleun_Cheers:
Thank you for having "fleshed out" the discussion...
It seems that our friend is playing Onealex mod
Yes 60 htz is very good you can even block the Framrate at 30 or 40 for the weakest machines..
Personally, I repeat, I will not cap my Framrate if you proceed as described above... there is no problem...
it seems that he does not understand the local time displayed at the bottom right and that when he passes the mouse he ends up with the GmT time...
perhaps its assembly is not correct...
or incorrect setting of the Fram of the machine..:hmmm:
Please note that the Onealex mod works very stable and has been doing so for a long time..

[AirportsMgr]

Hey Jerry Greetings...happy new year..:Kaleun_Cheers:
Thank you for having "fleshed out" the discussion...
It seems that our friend is playing Onealex mod
Yes 60 htz is very good you can even block the Framrate at 30 or 40 for the weakest machines..
Personally, I repeat, I will not cap my Framrate if you proceed as described above... there is no problem...
it seems that he does not understand the local time displayed at the bottom right and that when he passes the mouse he ends up with the GmT time...
perhaps its assembly is not correct...
or incorrect setting of the Fram of the machine..:hmmm:
Please note that the Onealex mod works very stable and has been doing so for a long time..


Thanks again, but as a Civil Engineer who worked in many different time zones, I do understand GMT time and the relationship to local time. However, the mouse moving over the clock brings up text that says "Local Time", NOT GMT. Also, that is in the second mission that is off an exact hour even though I am just leaving Wilhemlshaven. Please explain the first mission just east of England with 4 hours of darkness and the mouse text is not a fixed number of hours off from the clock.

No, the others are correct. Something is off and I believe it is my ultra fast computer with Windows 10 (64) pro. One day the sun sets at 02:30 and then next day (300km away) it sets at 08:17 ??? Please explain that with GMT.

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

Thanks again, but as a Civil Engineer who worked in many different time zones, I do understand GMT time and the relationship to local time. However, the mouse moving over the clock brings up text that says "Local Time", NOT GMT. Also, that is in the second mission that is off an exact hour even though I am just leaving Wilhemlshaven. Please explain the first mission just east of England with 4 hours of darkness and the mouse text is not a fixed number of hours off from the clock.

No, the others are correct. Something is off and I believe it is my ultra fast computer with Windows 10 (64) pro. One day the sun sets at 02:30 and then next day (300km away) it sets at 08:17 ??? Please explain that with GMT.

I don't want to question your personal competence.
Well indeed you must have a problem somewhere...lol...what you are telling me is not possible even on this meridian at this season.
You play Onealex mod well, don't you?
what is your mod list? you are talking to me about mission...but it is indeed the campaign mission...if I understand the 2nd one correctly, isn't it?

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

I don't want to question your personal competence.
Well indeed you must have a problem somewhere...lol...what you are telling me is not possible even on this meridian at this season.
You play Onealex mod well, don't you?
what is your mod list? you are talking to me about mission...but it is indeed the campaign mission...if I understand the 2nd one correctly, isn't it?

To complete: we are on the meridian 0 gmt Paris London...etc
here is the map of the zones
Your campaign starts at the end of August/September
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/6/1705789458-world-time-zones-map.jpg

I just looked up the time of this port in Germany (Wilhelmshaven, Germany)
01:02 local
Sunday January 21, 2024 (UTC+1) here we see very well +1 so you add an hour
Time (Wilhelmshaven, Germany)
so everything works...
What time is GMT +1?
It is defined as the universal reference point. This means that the local time in London, called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), is used as a reference to calculate time around the world. For example, for the time in France, its offset from London is 1 hour, so France has a GMT+1.
All European countries in UTC+1 use the same date for daylight saving time (called Central European Summer Time)
in your campaign you are on summer schedule so everything is working now maybe a problem understanding civil engineering or maybe you don't understand the game...
the mouse moving over the clock here screen
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/7/1705797369-sh3img-21-1-2024-0-38-16-385.png
Know that I have been using Alex's mod for a very long time... I was one of the first to support this work which is super stable.. Alex himself you will have answered but we all know here the ordeal he is going through besides I have I can't wait for him to come back and for this stupid war to stop...For my part I think that you tinkered with the mod where you used too much time compression because I have never had this kind of problem I have carried out these missions several times. campaign and I had nothing of the sort
or it comes from your Framrate being set incorrectly, nothing else...
For proof that it works perfectly I invite you to see the YT channel of my friend Tonci87
who does a remarkable job of narration and explanations if you frequent his channel you will realize that he has a great talent is that not only on Silent Hunter
:Kaleun_Wink:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA_Icl0akrw
This will be the end of the explanation, have fun
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/03/7/1705797361-sh3img-19-7-2023-1-58-51-409.png:salute:

[AirportsMgr]

Thanks for all the info on various time zones. However, as I have said many times, this is NOT a time zone issue. Time zones are all off an even number of hours. I am on mission 3 and have had 36 hours and 41 minutes straight of darkness in AN26 and AN16, east of England. It sucks when your clock says it is 11:16 (on 24 hour military cycle) and it is still pitch black out so you can't see ships in the scope.

And, no, I am not running any mods, as I said initially. It is a plain version from Steam.

I do not run compression higher than 128 times - ever, and most of the time I stay at 32 or 64.

I have checked the file validation on Steam and there are no issues.

I have saved games when I was unable to locate a ship after trying for 8 hours to get a shot, and restarted at an earlier time to try again. I can'[t imagine that this would cause the clock problem.

Again, when you hover the mouse over the clock, it says "Local Time". Maybe the mods some of you are using say "GMT". I wish that the issue was time zones, because then it would make sense.

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

It seems that you don't understand what you are doing...:Kaleun_Sick:
There is no Steam version here...lol:nope::nope::nope:
Read the documentation and your problems will be sorted out :D:salute:

[AirportsMgr]

It seems that you don't understand what you are doing...:Kaleun_Sick:
There is no Steam version here...lol:nope::nope::nope:
Read the documentation and your problems will be sorted out :D:salute:

I never claimed AI purchased the game from SUBSIM. Do they even sell the game?

This site was recommended to me on Steam.

I have read ALL the documentation many times and there is nothing that helps with this issue. I did not have this issue when playing the game in 2005.

Why are you criticizing me for trying to get help from people who supposedly know all the details about this game? The issues I am having are real and I need helpful suggestions, not trash.

[les green01]

its been awhile since i play stock sh3 maybe 15 or more years i remember having that problem but seem like it wasn't different each day since your not running mods you can rule that out im sure you did a save exit reload which usually fixes any problems

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

There is nothing to buy.. you just have to download the mod... then unzip it... create a shortcut on your desktop eventually..that's all..!!
Really read the doc provided... read rather than want to go faster... and not understand anything it becomes tiring to go around the same subjects without stopping... here on the forum.. in the docs.... everything is clear... it's incredible you ramble like grandpas... the cause: everyone wanting to 'eat' without taking the time to understand..that's the today's internet world...everyone devours videos...faster...faster...but I don't read it's too tiring...then I ask someone like that I have nothing to do. ..lol anything.."LOL":/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!

I add @les green01 if it is to provide this kind of response I would abstain in your place besides your posts here and elsewhere it is the same with you...help stop telling your life story..

[les green01]

There is nothing to buy.. you just have to download the mod... then unzip it... create a shortcut on your desktop eventually..that's all..!!
Really read the doc provided... read rather than want to go faster... and not understand anything it becomes tiring to go around the same subjects without stopping... here on the forum.. in the docs.... everything is clear... it's incredible you ramble like grandpas... the cause: everyone wanting to 'eat' without taking the time to understand..that's the today's internet world...everyone devours videos...faster...faster...but I don't read it's too tiring...then I ask someone like that I have nothing to do. ..lol anything.."LOL":/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!

I add @les green01 if it is to provide this kind of response I would abstain in your place besides your posts here and elsewhere it is the same with you...help stop telling your life story..

Dude what in the hell you talking about first all he has the game all ready next I say it been over 15 years on sh3 stock never told my life story on subsim you need to stop what ever you are smoking it is frying your brain

[stork100]

Just to clarify the OP stated multiple times he was not playing any mod:

I am running the standard Steam version.



And, no, I am not running any mods, as I said initially. It is a plain version from Steam.

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

Dude what in the hell you talking about first all he has the game all ready next I say it been over 15 years on sh3 stock never told my life story on subsim you need to stop what ever you are smoking it is frying your brain

For someone who has been hanging around for 15 years, you don't shine with your work...
at no time do you provide help here... as I said, tell your life story and give random answers that have nothing to do with what is being asked is your specialty... what do I smoke..?? ? you... you should smoke you would be less stupid...
the controversy will stop here.. I don't discuss with stupid people they might become intelligent.. I will abstain with you and resume what animates us here.. don't insist thank you..!!!

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

Just to clarify the OP stated multiple times he was not playing any mod:

He plays Onealex mod there is no steam...it's one of the easiest mods to install...I seem to have given plenty of explanations as well as "doolar" so if it's not clear it stops the computer. ..people don't understand.. he doesn't read.. he has a machine that he doesn't master.. he doesn't know how to adjust it very often he buys a machine without understanding the technology he uses..besides his PC and so fast that he doesn't have time to see daylight in his countryside...

[stork100]

He plays Onealex mod there is no steam...it's one of the easiest mods to install...I seem to have given plenty of explanations as well as "doolar" so if it's not clear it stops the computer. ..people don't understand.. he doesn't read.. he has a machine that he doesn't master.. he doesn't know how to adjust it very often he buys a machine without understanding the technology he uses..besides his PC and so fast that he doesn't have time to see daylight in his countryside...

Where does he say he plays Onealex?

[AirportsMgr]

its been awhile since i play stock sh3 maybe 15 or more years i remember having that problem but seem like it wasn't different each day since your not running mods you can rule that out im sure you did a save exit reload which usually fixes any problems

Thank you for the help. Yes, saving, exiting and then reloading does not fix the clock issue, which gets worse as the mission goes longer. Once I saved and exited at around 21:50 and the sun was just starting to set. When I reloaded to continue the next day it was the same time, only it was pitch black out with stars in the sky.

I have a really fast computer that I use for video editing and wonder if that is the problem.

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

Where does he say he plays Onealex?
When I asked him at no time did he contradict me...so I deduced that this was the mode in question...if this is not the case he should have been more precise in these requests...
:ping:Besides he says it himself when I switch to the watch at the bottom so the games and "modder"
the problems are not the games... it seems to be his machine..
For the problems of acceleration of time these are problems a thousand times to explain... it's like for the installations of the games with the mods... it's dealt with on the forum when we give ourselves the means to read
then we ask the right questions...
I would add that all modders here take the trouble to write explanations in the documentation provided with the work in question...in order to know what the mod offers and what it acts on in the gameplay

[les green01]

For someone who has been hanging around for 15 years, you don't shine with your work...
at no time do you provide help here... as I said, tell your life story and give random answers that have nothing to do with what is being asked is your specialty... what do I smoke..?? ? you... you should smoke you would be less stupid...
the controversy will stop here.. I don't discuss with stupid people they might become intelligent.. I will abstain with you and resume what animates us here.. don't insist thank you..!!!
For your info I been on subsim for over 20 years and have donated well over 200 dollars and have helped some people or try to only one on this thread talking Alex is you not only have you been rude to the person needing help you also doing it to me I have reported you neal or Jim can take it from there

[les green01]

Thank you for the help. Yes, saving, exiting and then reloading does not fix the clock issue, which gets worse as the mission goes longer. Once I saved and exited at around 21:50 and the sun was just starting to set. When I reloaded to continue the next day it was the same time, only it was pitch black out with stars in the sky.

I have a really fast computer that I use for video editing and wonder if that is the problem.
Very could be with this being a old game but I hope you get it figured out and enjoy your game

[Jimbuna]

Come on guys, cool heads everyone if you please.

[les green01]

Ok Jim I just took it to pm

[Jimbuna]

Appreciated :salute:

[Doolar]

AirportsMgr,
If your still having time / sunrise, sunset shifting issues. Try locking down your frame rates to 60fps. I highly recommend trying this out. What's it going to hurt to give it a go. If this doesn't work, then un-lock it, now you know it's something else. It's only a click and doesn't effect your immage quality at all. My monitors are 60,000hz anyway. I found no need for 400fps in the "Map on Nav View". Which I'm in 90% of the time, and which could have caulsed my issues. I was spending hours and hours at 400fps. Give it a shot, you have nothing to lose but aggravations and frushrations if it works. I don't think it's your computer specs or time zones (which can have some effect but not as drastic as your experiencing). My vote goes to your frame rates, but I can't explain why. But It worked for me. Please read the post I sent earlier in this thread. Doolar

[John Pancoast]

For your info I been on subsim for over 20 years and have donated well over 200 dollars and have helped some people or try to only one on this thread talking Alex is you not only have you been rude to the person needing help you also doing it to me I have reported you neal or Jim can take it from there

Good to see you still around les. You always have been and still are a huge asset to the site.

Pay no attention to anything or anyone that says otherwise.

[Doolar]

Hope I didn't offend. Just trying to help with my experences.