Game keeps crashing on me, please help.

[OmniGundam]

This is my first post, and and I was kinda hoping I wouldn't need to, but I'm tired of hitting my head against the wall.
I managed to get sh4 uboat working, and I like it, but I keeps crashing on me and killing my mood to play it.
There are 2 crashes that happen to me.
1st, sometimes the game just CTD while I'm sailing. There's no real consistency here, so unfortunately I can't give exact details.
2nd, whenever I'm about to sink a ship, the game CTD. The moment before the torpedo impacts, the game just dies. For instance, I hit a tanker with 2 torpedos, and after waiting to see if it sinks, I decide to hit it with a 3rd. Just as it reaches the target, right before the explosion, CTD.
I'm not using any mods, but I did try to download them before and I don't know if I cleaned up properly.
I am running LAA.
Please help, I want to play with the splashy boats.

[KaleunMarco]

This is my first post, and and I was kinda hoping I wouldn't need to, but I'm tired of hitting my head against the wall.
I managed to get sh4 uboat working, and I like it, but I keeps crashing on me and killing my mood to play it.
There are 2 crashes that happen to me.
1st, sometimes the game just CTD while I'm sailing. There's no real consistency here, so unfortunately I can't give exact details.
2nd, whenever I'm about to sink a ship, the game CTD. The moment before the torpedo impacts, the game just dies. For instance, I hit a tanker with 2 torpedos, and after waiting to see if it sinks, I decide to hit it with a 3rd. Just as it reaches the target, right before the explosion, CTD.
I'm not using any mods, but I did try to download them before and I don't know if I cleaned up properly.
I am running LAA.
Please help, I want to play with the splashy boats.

ok, welcome omnigundam.

since you are a confessed newbie, let's start with the basics.
into which folder did you install SH4? it's important.
we'll dive deeper once you reply.
:Kaleun_Salute:

[OmniGundam]

It's a steam download, but it's not in the program files folder, either of them. It's in steamapps.
Just double checked, its in the SteamLibrary.

[Aktungbby]

but I'm tired of hitting my head against the wall.
OmniGundam!:Kaleun_Salute:..shoulda been: " I'm tired of :damn:"...saves keyboard time!:O::shucks::arrgh!:

[OmniGundam]

OmniGundam!:Kaleun_Salute:..shoulda been: " I'm tired of :damn:"...saves keyboard time!:O::shucks::arrgh!:

I was on my phone.

[KaleunMarco]

It's a steam download, but it's not in the program files folder, either of them. It's in steamapps.
Just double checked, its in the SteamLibrary.

ok, thank you for that.

are you running under Win10?
you should check out this thread which focuses on SH4/Win10.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=221366

[OmniGundam]

I think it's 11.
Edit: it is.

[KaleunMarco]

I think it's 11.
Edit: it is.

ok, Win11 & SH4 (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=250953)....coming up
here is the SH4 & Win 11 Thread. lots of good stuff.
:Kaleun_Salute:

[OmniGundam]

ok, Win11 & SH4 (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=250953)....coming up
here is the SH4 & Win 11 Thread. lots of good stuff.
:Kaleun_Salute:

Ok, that has nothing to do with my problems.
I can start the game, it just crashes on me.

[KaleunMarco]

Ok, that has nothing to do with my problems.
I can start the game, it just crashes on me.

then the issue is a basic issue probably an installation thing.
my installation is from DVD and i have no problems however from what i have read from Steam users in the past, Steam installations have issues.

PB will online over the weekend and maybe he will have some suggestions.

Sorry i could not help.

[OmniGundam]

Thinking about it I really only had this problem after taking out FOTRS. Is anyone aware of how to hard reset my files? I feel like that might work.
Uninstalling and reinstalling doesn't work fyi.

[propbeanie]

When you take a mod out of SH4, it should leave your SH4.exe the way it was with the Compatibility settings. However, especially when changing out a major mod, such as FotRSU, you do have to empty the Save game folder again, else you have a combination of FotRSU and Stock (or whatever mod you may have added since). Navigate into C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4 and delete everything, then try to run SH4.exe again. :salute:

btw - you will have to re-set all of your Options for the game...

[OmniGundam]

When you take a mod out of SH4, it should leave your SH4.exe the way it was with the Compatibility settings. However, especially when changing out a major mod, such as FotRSU, you do have to empty the Save game folder again, else you have a combination of FotRSU and Stock (or whatever mod you may have added since). Navigate into C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4 and delete everything, then try to run SH4.exe again. :salute:

btw - you will have to re-set all of your Options for the game...

:Kaleun_Applaud::Kaleun_Applaud::Kaleun_Cheers::Ka leun_Cheers:
That worked. Thanks so much.

[OmniGundam]

it didn't. I was about to reach my objective and I CTD.
I did manage to sink something, but it still crashes while sailing.

[OmniGundam]

To be clear, it doesn't always happen, but its rage inducing when it does. I'd like to stop it if I can.

[KaleunMarco]

no it didn't. I was about to reach my objective and I CTD.
I did manage to sink something, but it still crashes while sailing.

let's use better language to describe our frustrations.
although you may not be a member yet, use of obscene/vulgar language is not allowed in any forum.
SUBSIM Radio Room Forums Rules (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/misc.php?do=showrules)

KM
Moderator

[OmniGundam]

let's use better language to describe our frustrations.
although you may not be a member yet, use of obscene/vulgar language is not allowed in any forum.
SUBSIM Radio Room Forums Rules (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/misc.php?do=showrules)

KM
Moderator

Understood, I edited it out.

[OmniGundam]

Ok, weird issue, ever since the fix I can't rig for silent running anymore. I press the button and nothing happens.:damn:OK NOW IT DOES!:damn:

[OmniGundam]

Oh my god it happened again.
I was about to hit my target and presumably sink it and then CTD.:damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn:

[OmniGundam]

Guys I still need an answer, I can't play this game until I fix this, and I REALLY want to play it.

[propbeanie]

Post back with your new mod list OmniGundam. Use JSGME, in the middle of it is "Tasks..." - click on that, then choose "Export activated mods list to -->" and choose "Clipboard". Then do <Ctrl><V> combo to paste the text into your next post. :salute:

[OmniGundam]

I have no active mods installed. FoTRS is apparently in there, but its inactive. I don't know how to get it out.

[propbeanie]

Did you use JSGME to remove it? Had you used MultiSH3 to create your Save folder? It might be easiest to re-install the game though... delete the game and Save folders, and re-install. We tried to make FotRSU to where it cleanly de-activates with JSGME, but we have seen similar happen, which seems to be computer and configuration dependent...

[OmniGundam]

I've uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times, and its still in there. I think I used JSGME to deactivate it. Would verifying the file or something work?

[propbeanie]

If you have the Steam version of the game, they do have a "Verify game files" function somewher in their menu system that will indeed fix up the game folder just fine. It overwrites the existing files, whereas a re-install, if you have not already deleted the old files, will just add any missing files back in, and does NOT overwrite things... Just remember to also empty (delete) the Save folder again also though, such as:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1070&pictureid=13293

I used the "short-cut", but got the actual path to show there... propb is my UserName on this computer...

[OmniGundam]

Ok, the I did something a bit more drastic. I tore out everything in the steamapps folder and redownloaded. I could launch the base game with no problems so I think it worked.
My saves defaulted to the user folder already.
Do you think I'll need LAA still?

[propbeanie]

If doing Stock? No. However, most mods definitely benefit from using it. Now, a really big thing with a Steam game is that Steam defaults to installing the games below the Steam install, which is usually in "C:\Program Files (x86) \Steam...", and Windows does not like when you install mods in that Program Files folder. My Steam now has an option to move the game to a different Library folder, if you have a valid 2nd hard drive in your computer. If you don't, then you can either re-install Steam in a folder you make yourself, such as "C:\Games", which then puts the game library folder there, but if you have very many games, that can be a real bother... You could also try copying your SH4 folder from inside the Steam folder and then pasting it elsewhere, and then modding that copy. The game would be in "C:\Program Files (x86) \Steam \Steam Apps \common \Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific" (or similar). You select that folder, the use the <Ctrl><C> keyboard combination to "Copy" the whole folder, then navigate into that "C:\Games" folder that you made before, and use <Ctrl><V> to Paste the folder in there. Navigate inside once all the files copy (which will take a while), and try starting it by double-clicking the SH4.exe file. You might have to set the "Properties" on that exe file first though...

[OmniGundam]

I think its working!
As I said, my steam downloaded it to my docs folder, and everything worked fine. I'm not going to try modding this again, that's what caused this mess.